Why Chris Lilley Is Problematic - NitPix 

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For those who haven’t seen any Chris Lilley work before I would definitely recommend We Can Be Heroes (and Summer Heights High) before dismissing him as some hack comedy writer.

If u were an Aussie you’d realise just how scarily accurate and funny quentins story line was

Damn... Summer Heights was a classic.

I genuinely love Ja'mie: Private School Girl lmao, it's way too accurate to a lot of people I've used to know

How can we trust this guy when he claims Netflix produces ‘bland’ shows, yet the stupid mobile game he promotes is the ‘best thing ever’

I didn't even know anyone outside of australia even knew who chris lilley was.

As a minority I love Chris Riley, his humor is so funny and the vibe is that we're all supposed to laugh with each other and no one is being luaghed at

"....they're just like, skin color...." @1:47

I stand by Chris Lilley. The world needs freaking chill pill.

you say that there lacks a justification for following these characters, i began to wonder why ANY reality TV show would follow any of the strange people they follow.

This video basically just explained why I love Chris Lilley.

Tbh I thought NitPix was meant to be like Nit = nit Pix = pick and picture So it was *nit picking motion pictures* I really read too much into his name

I don't care what anyone else thinks, I found it hilarious.

Raid shadow legends is more problematic than Chris Lilley.

This is strange, it comes off to me as reading into things that were never meant to be super intelligent & deep comedy. Every single character, from every single Chris Lilley show, has been based around a single exaggerated trait. Pretending this is a new aspect is just wrong. It's like you just wanted to say that you don't find Chris Lilley funny, which is fine, but all the talking about 'problematic' & 'offense' seems like after the fact justification for a video that wasn't really neccessary at all.

Jonah from Tonga will forever be Australia's gold mine of teen comedy

As an Australian I feel like I’m obliged to defend him but I agree with your points.

12:38 Peep Show. That's the only example I can think of. Because shock humour like that only works when consequences are factored in. You can't just have a character do something shocking and every other character accept it.

I suspect that this was a consequence of netflix restricting creative liberty. You also have to take into account that Chris is appealing to an Australian audience to which different humor standards are held and that the reliability of each character is based on the Australia experience. Coming from public schooling in Australia i cant even begin to tell you how accurate summer hights high is.

I saw Lunatics before I even knew who Chris Lilley was or had any preconceived ideas about him. I watched the show and really enjoyed it. There were moments where it felt slow and like not much was happening. However there were also really great moments which I feel like you have overlooked.I really don’t think lunatics is a bad show and I think because I got to watch it without knowing any of his previous shows I didn’t hold him to any type of standard or expectation. We have to remember, Chris lilley doesn’t owe us anything. Overall i disagree with you that it was a bad show, but you definitely raised some good points :)

Ja’mie King is a legend

J'amie is iconic but youre right, his new stuff stinks of doo doo

you clearly didn't finish the series. the whole "message" of the show was to be yourself and love what you do no matter how much of a lunatic you may look like. all the series have a similar format but also all of them have a theme. he is a truly gifted actor, don't think he deserves this bashing when you clearly don't understand his point

i’m always rewatching ja’mie and summer heights high, it’s so funny

I am stealing your bloody fart analogy. 10/10

I loved Lunatics. Chris Lilley is a genius

MDE Presents: World Peace was a show that contrasted absurd characters with realistic, improvisational actors very well. Absurdist characters wore ridiculous costumes that broke any possible illusion of them actually fitting in; the improvisational actors were very reserved. This put central focus on the attention-grabbing absurdists, although the improvisers were important characters to the story of each sketch so they didn't feel tacked on. I guess it was a Brechtian thing. World Peace was also a very anti-PC show, but it looks good and it's fucking funny. For an example of what I mean, look up the break up sketch.

Your missing the point of Chris lily's humour. He's all observational of the world around him and he put it into an exaggerated form in his characters. I don't know if it's because I'm Australian and it doesn't translate well overseas or Somthing else. But when you see each of the characters you Instantly think of somone you know in real life. He has a way of picking up the little subtleties in human persona you think mostly goes ignored. In this series he's portraying some of the people you see and may have little interaction with in your life. he delves into a possible scenario of what their life might be like (in an exaggerated form). The whole series is to to make people aware and have compasion and understanding of people we may not understand. As a Comedian he does that by making people laugh at stereotype we all see but think we're not suppost to. Because the best way to make everyone get along is to make them loosen up, alow themselves to laugh at them self and realise everyone is just trying their best to get along in this life.

I’m feeling very attacked NitPix I actually like Lunatics, although I don’t think the name fits

I loved Lunatics. Watching that made me look up Chris Lilley’s back catalogue and I loved it all. I wish your review was nicer though, every sentence in this was negative.. There were amazing parts of this show, even the effort that Chris lilley went into with the details of each character s back story. The photos and videos of them all as kids and stuff like that were brilliant. And the actual scenery was beautiful especially The scenes shot in Africa. Also it painted Australia in a great light. I remember actually saying Australia looked really gorgeous in this show as I have never been there. He is also so believable as every character. He becomes that character. I watched that whole show in two sittings and I felt empathy and sad at times, forgetting that they were not real. I think that says a lot about him. Based on all of his work I would consider him a comical genius. And I disagree with you, I think Keith dick fucking the cash register is funny.

I think it's important for people who can challenge and push boundaries. His characters were realistic portrayals of stereotypes from all walks of life and it was showing us they all were just people and he made you sympathize and root for the kind of person you thought you hated. And also hes really great at this style of film making if its still good why wouldn't he stick with it

Surprised to see you know Chris Lilley, seems like such an Australian thing and really wouldn’t appear outside Australia

Lunatics sucked but Chris Lilley is a legend in Australian comedy, even upon rewatching his first 3-4 shows as an adult I find them hilarious

j'amie is low key relatable 👀

Literally Any Rando that Wanders In: I got this idea- Netflix: Greenlit! We have no writers!

"this comedy is problematic.....wait a minute I gotta shill for a mobile game" if that's not faux woke neoliberalism in a nutshell, I don't know what is.

The best shows are always misunderstood by the majority at first. I couldn't disagree with this more. These characters are absolutely brilliant, and I think there is massive strength and appeal in Chris's ability to play any character he creates so well and so believably. Boo NitPix

It’s ironic that you didn’t mention his best shows (summer heights high, j’amie, and Jonah from Tonga). I agree that lunatics was terrible. I just appreciate a full picture

I've never heard of this guy or his show but you can be damn sure I'll watch a NitPix video on him

Sometimes you don't get it, like you. I loved the series and I think it's the best thing he's done. At the end of the day I was laughing so much and that's what you need from a comedy.

I agree with you but it's hard to hate when you show footage of God tier characters like Phil Olivetti and Mr. G

Just give us what we want Chris lilly, a Mr G series

Fun fact: They're all real actors, not non actors. They're just really good at acting like normal people.

>the fart smells like blood Brilliant.

If this is problematic then what is south park, family guy, etc?? I think the show is ingenius and i really don't get the hate.

I feel like time is weird in the teens of the 2000s, Summer Heights High came out in 2007, this is like some form of comedy from 1988 not changing and just regurgitating itself in 2000, decades aren't as defined anymore but it's insane how its literally the same thing every time

Summer Heights High is one of the most nostalgic shows of all time for me. It captures the 2000s era of Australian High School perfectly.

jonah from tonga and summer heights high bang hard tho

It makes me laugh that you’re calling a well known and well liked comedian unfunny by reading deep into things that aren’t even there, yet you’re trying to be hilarious which really made me cringe and your voice is actually grating

Summer Heights Hight and Angry Boys were simply brilliant. The characters were often vile but all had a humanity and were incredibly funny. He is so talented and it’s such a shame what became of his later content. Jonah properly made me sad and Mr G properly made me pity him. At least we have those!

Lack of ambition is problematic? What the hell does that even mean?

i mostly used it for background noise. was just a bit dull

This whole video gave me flashbacks to that wedding competition mockumentary Confetti, and I don't know how to feel about it.

Great work man. I think your analysis of the structure of the show was pretty clinical and spot on. I really agree that "Lunatics" may represent a transitional phase that Lilley resisted, instead forcing a mockumentary aesthetic that seemed really off. Also, the complete lack of story didn't help and I really appreciate your breakdown of where the story of style failed. Although, I think I really disagree with your moralistic categorisation of comedy. I think this kind of rhetoric works great for a video essay, and if it simply was a property of you building your own story then I completely get it. But the idea that jokes require a moral insight is tenuous and, in a way, suspicious of comedy as a genre itself. In some ways I feel like the "edgy shock humour" you describe, without moral purpose and weak in structure, is so subjective that it's really an accusation of not lining up with your sensibilities. A lot of the time, the supposed moral journey of a joke, is the retrofitted nonsense of someone who feels too guilty or arrogant to find something on its own funny. To put it less intensely and more accurately, the social role of someone working in comedy may not be to decipher moral gaps and adequately respond to them in joke structure. But rather to search for an almost carnal compulsion to improvise joy. If a joke lands we laugh, if it doesn't we are angry from the embarrassment that we were forced to feel. We take this embarrassment and blame the person trying to be funny as if they've morally fucked us. This is just a disagreement about why you felt the series failed, not really about your conclusions. I think on the whole your writing was great, and I look forward to more of your consent. BTW, this is coming from a subscriber. Also I'm drunk writing this and I have an actual essay to write.

Chris Liley damn I didn’t even know other people knew about him

The promos on the channel for these mobile games are so funny, you can tell he doesn’t care but still has a blast doing them anyway

Ngl I did struggle to enjoy Lunatics, just couldn’t get it like I could the others

I dono man. If you don't enjoy Summer Heights High anymore then I don't believe we have similar tastes. I think I'm going to have to watch this show

Angry boys is literally the funniest and saddest show at the same time it’s truely a masterpiece

I think the term “yellowface” isn’t meant to imply that Asian people are yellow-skinned, but is a reference to old-timey racism when Asian people were called yellow-skinned. The term is a commentary on how outdated and racist the practice is. It’s saying, “Come on, we still have this shit going on today? Like, “me so-solly” ?!” That’s yellowface.

Chris Lilley isn't Problematic, He is a genius and talented actor in which he plays multiple characters

I’ve never heard of Chris lily before now bruh

Don't get clickbait-y

My issue with Lunatics is that it steered away from relatable stereotypes into more extreme, outlandish, and unrealistic characters. I mean when are you ever going to encounter a 7 foot girl or an ex p-star with mental illness in your life?

I've never heard of this man, but he looks a bit like the live action Shaggy hit a dead end after the Mystery Gang broke up and sort of let himself go.

Jonah from Tonga is a televised masterpiece about the struggles of growing up

So many TV Shows and you watched closely 10 episodes of something you hate. Lunatics is not perfect but I had a good laugh.

This review is pretty close to gatekeeping, since you just spent 10 minutes ripping into it without showing a single clip from it. I don't know if it was for copyright reasons but it's hard to agree with you or assess your points when we didn't hear a single character say a single line of dialogue.

I personally loved summer heights and angry boys...I always felt like the main narrative of angry boys was interesting enough to bring it all together in a way that to me was a satisfying conclusion......but lunatics.....its just time spent looking at characters doing one thing with no reason at all....nothing to say...nothing to comment on just....here it is....I do hope he gets to create something else because i think he does what he does well but he just needs to push himself and break the format and set a new standard for comedy

All of chris lilley’s work is hilarious I do not know what your are on about

I watched this show and in one episode were a character is moaning about his big bum. At that exact moment I got up smacked the key in the desk draw with my big bum snapping it off.

I just feel as if he didn't really want to make it, but because he's popular with meme culture of social media Netflix and thier insatiable appetite for "trending" TV shows forced his hand to rush out and recreate the next "same old mocumentary". However they also said to him, don't be offensive though, it's 2019 now, the world can't handle that any more. The guy literally had to create the crapest and most unamusing characters in order to please the demands of his producers. I don't think Chris Lilley even had a drive to make more content after the backlash of angry boys - maybe I'm misinformed/wrong. But that's how I felt watching lunatics

Sounds like he needed a writer who could cobble together scenarios that link it together

Give that man an Oscar!!! We need more of this comedy its hilarious!!! That talent is amazing!! Love him so much!!!

Jonah from Tonga was a great show tho ngl

I don’t get how using black face is “pushing comedy.” We realized it was stupid and not funny like 60 year ago. Not just because it’s offensive but because it’s a lazy way of creating a character that leads to overused jokes and tropes.

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Chris Lilley's Angry Boys got me right in the feels.

Wow sooo early Edit: Also why did you release it on 1am

He is still one of the bests in comedy. In this offended era that we live in of course Lunatics had to be toned down because of it. MadTV, Little Britain and Chris Lilley’s former funny characters would not survive in this time. And that is sad. Comedy should not be facing extinction

Summer Heights High and We Can Be Heroes is pure comedy gold, spend a few weeks in Australia and the humour resonates with you so well. I'd even make the same case for Angry Boys even though there were a few dud characters. His only outright bad shows are the Jamie and Jonah ones tbh

I absolutely LOVED this show. First season of anything I've ever watched twice.

As soon as I saw this video pop up I exploded with joy

I've said it once and I'll say it again, this channel gets music so right. It's always spot on man!

Never knew he did blackface and the tongan since private Jamie was my fav movie now I can't love him anymore as I'm changing from giving second chances to seriously not supporting problematic ppl Just wished he didn't do those things for comedy since he is a natural act

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It’s a shame Lunatics wasn’t as good as his other stuff

It's nice to watch something that makes fun of group identities.

Is your podcast on Spotify?

I came across lunatics and thought it was great. And I’m not even a fan of these dude.. it had to grow on me but each character had a conflict and resolution.. but the end of it I couldn’t stop singing “I don’t know what I’m doin, but I just want to paarrtttyyyyaahh” your little essay would have been convincing had I not watched it for myself.. the only character I didn’t care for was the little boy with the inheritance.. but the others drew me in especially Keith Dick 👍🏽

There isn’t an op shop in Australia that doesn’t have SHH in the DVD section. Honestly it’s insane how much I see that dvd and in how many places that I do see it.

Mobile games are addictive gambling. The video was an aimless rant.

‘They’re just like...skin colour.’ Oh so skin colour automatically means pale beige? Racist! There is no ‘skin colour’ skin has many different colours. Why NitPix is problematic

I thought all the scenes with gaven still gave me a laugh like his older shows

The guy gives me the creeps, which probably says more about me than him ...but whatever.

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Did you really just use the word “problematic”? What are you writing Buzzfeed think pieces now?

I'm from Brazil and "Ja'mie: Private School Girl" was shown here on HBO a few years ago. I immediately became a fan.