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Why Clothing Is So Much Worse Now. 

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Clothing quality has seemingly gone down the drain. People are always searching for the best affordable t-shirt, the best jeans for under a certain price, and cashmere sweaters that are more than .1 grams in weight. So the question today is...why?! What happened?! What the heck is plastic?! Today we will dive into the question of "Why is everything worse now?" and we'll look into the depths of pricing data. Then I'll lose my absolute mind at the last second before posting this video because I wanted to confirm I was using the correct data and don't have any friends that work in the economic field. I'm friends with a lot of creative-based people, little light on the math nerds.
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@TheIronSnail
@TheIronSnail 7 дней назад
Greetings, nerds. I'm compiling a list of the best affordable pieces of clothing on the market for a follow-up video. Please let me know your favs so I can test them! *HAPPY SAT*
@theopower6843
@theopower6843 7 дней назад
I’ve been really impressed with some Uniqlo tees. I’ll explain cos I know that Uniqlo is basically a cliche response. I think the majority of Uniqlo t-shirts are overrated. That being said, some of the collaborations they’ve done (particularly their collab with the Tate Modern gallery in London) are really great quality for the price of like £25. Really thick heavy fabric, double stitched collar short and boxy fit. It’s all great. Basically all this goes to say go to your local Uniqlo and feel everything, you might be surprised.
@gsockol93
@gsockol93 7 дней назад
Teamster t shirts
@IdeaStudioBKK
@IdeaStudioBKK 7 дней назад
I'd like to recommend two Thai brands. One is a shoe called Nanyang. they cost about $10 and are made from canvas and natural rubber. They look like a basic pair of Chucks and last for years. I wear them daily and get a few years out of a pair. The second is a shirt brand called Double Goose. I rock their black tees daily. They feel great and last a long time as well. I have actually patched a few that I got rips in. I know Thai brands might be outside your wheelhouse, but if you are looking for value for money then you can't beat these two.
@jackmabie5
@jackmabie5 7 дней назад
I would say Forty Five from Huckberry. They’re around $42 but are always on sale for around $10 less, made in the USA from supima cotton, really good quality for the price and surprisingly soft, plus a reinforced neckband
@Ladyslay3r
@Ladyslay3r 7 дней назад
I don’t know if you’ve covered them but buck mason and bronson mfg would be cool to talk about.
@Mezelenja
@Mezelenja 7 дней назад
The drew reference almost made me break my neck
@AlekseiArsentev-ib7pv
@AlekseiArsentev-ib7pv 7 дней назад
lol same
@asielromo3399
@asielromo3399 7 дней назад
Fr
@variklane7032
@variklane7032 6 дней назад
Lol
@taylor41
@taylor41 6 дней назад
same😭😭😭
@twoleftsright
@twoleftsright 5 дней назад
Bro I got so confused
@DeadGuyCardboard
@DeadGuyCardboard 7 дней назад
I hate how a lot of “cotton” t-shirts have polyester blends. Polyester just traps body heat, making them too hot to wear in the summer…a time when you want to wear a t-shirt.
@MrSloika
@MrSloika 6 дней назад
Not to mention how synthetic fabrics begin to break down after a while and begin to stink.
@BeeRumblin13
@BeeRumblin13 5 дней назад
100 %poly and poly blends are used for breathable sport/training clothes. Buy 100 % cotton then. Blends won't shrink as much if any.
@shortyipper
@shortyipper 4 дня назад
I got into a talk with an old co-worker about that kind of thing. He loved the 'sports blend' work shirts that we had cause he thought they breathed better than the cotton ones. He had worked mostly inside before that job. I liked the thinner cotton ones cause they let a lot of air move through and I didn't sweat like a bugger while wearing them. Same with a good number of my co-workers. That guy was one of the few that liked the poly shirts.
@DeadGuyCardboard
@DeadGuyCardboard 4 дня назад
@@BeeRumblin13training clothes use a different kind of polyester than the cotton/polyester blend shirts.
@curlyhairdudeify
@curlyhairdudeify 2 дня назад
​@@BeeRumblin13 The 100% synthetic fibers in sports wear... Better be Adidas. Anything other than Adidas it feels like wearing a sauna plastic suit. Adidas uses Colima Cool and Aero Ready technology.
@naota3k
@naota3k 7 дней назад
I feel bad for plastic. We invented it and it solved SO many problems, allowed so much to be made at scale, and improved hundreds of millions of lives. We abused it, dumped it into our environment, burned it releasing toxic fumes, and then got all mad and blamed the material as opposed to our own patterns of greed and incompetence/indifference.
@otterotterotter
@otterotterotter 7 дней назад
I’ve been telling people for ages about how cheap clothes have hurt people’s sense of what stuff should be worth. Great video as always :)
@InsAnItYschild101
@InsAnItYschild101 5 дней назад
Same. Then I tell them the Vimes Boots theory. And the ideas of buy once cry once and cost per wear
@TK-431
@TK-431 6 дней назад
Story time: I have been a follower of Theo and Harris since 2016. My viewership went way up while you were there. I didn't know what happened that one day, you weren't there any longer. One day, I saw a "recommended" video about denim, and to my surprise- it was Mikey! I have watched every new release of The Iron Snail since subbing. Your storytelling and attention to detail is captivating, and frankly why I haven't seen one of Christian's vids in months. Here's to your prosperity!
@jack66244
@jack66244 7 дней назад
Crazy that my little town in a random bit of England is in some B-roll in an iron snail video (4:12)
@robg2657
@robg2657 5 дней назад
Pro-Tip, never pay full price for J. Crew clothing. The 40% - 60% off sale price reflects the true quality of what they turn out now, more often than not made cheaply in china or vietnam.
@kiernansfault48
@kiernansfault48 7 дней назад
"Some brands are going up in price while quality goes down." *cough* FILSON *cough*
@drzaius844
@drzaius844 6 дней назад
Yes. Buy used for sure.
@noyes.
@noyes. 4 дня назад
Why not talk normal?
@michaelk7007
@michaelk7007 3 дня назад
Regret not buying their stuff in the past.
@Vwall007ST
@Vwall007ST 5 дней назад
I havent bought at Zara, H&M, Uniqlo etc. for like 5 years. I went from 20 jeans shitty cheap pants and jeans to 5 good quality ones. And it feels so much better, I tell you decluttering makes you feel more relaxed. It's also easier to dress in the mornings.
@joem.7621
@joem.7621 7 дней назад
I still wear 20 year old shirts. 7 days? Wow.
@memento316
@memento316 7 дней назад
I have a shirt donate me from an event. I used that for about 22 years and washed maybe 1000 times and still perfect.. Unbelievable..
@spoofare8202
@spoofare8202 7 дней назад
7 wears. so about 2 months
@s-zo5641
@s-zo5641 4 дня назад
I still have a pair of polyester shorts that say "12-14 years" on the label which I wore when I was that old. I'm 28 now. I know it sounds strange but they fit me perfectly and you couldn't tell they were like 15 years old and meant for kids. They haven't even faded or anything. Durability has almost never been an issue for me with clothes and I don't even buy the most expensive stuff.
@battra92
@battra92 9 часов назад
I wear my thrift store button downs far more than seven times.
@RuslanKD
@RuslanKD 7 дней назад
Great video. Thank you for this breakdown. We’ve been feeling the same way about what we’re releasing and desiring to go stateside for everything.
@DMorgan77
@DMorgan77 6 дней назад
I think your point about us not having a gauge for quality and price point is spot on. This might be something to explore further in another video. Loved the shoutout to Drew too, his channel is also great.
@Zenavesta
@Zenavesta 3 дня назад
( 6:40 )That “adjusted for inflation” but was so confusing to listen to my guy…. You said that in reverse man
@parkermadison6368
@parkermadison6368 6 дней назад
I cant wait to try out one of your t-shirts. I feel like a quality tee can be a nice entry point for most people getting into quality clothing. I commend you for doing this! Also the Mammoth jackets look sick too!
@ABC-rh7zc
@ABC-rh7zc 6 дней назад
It doesn't make sense to use the apparel industry inflation figures. We need to know how the prices of clothing have changed relative to the value of money overall.
@Jackson-jk9ff
@Jackson-jk9ff 2 дня назад
You editing skills‘re on point! 👍👍👍 Honestly youre an moviemaker!
@rafareforma
@rafareforma 5 дней назад
I would love, if possible, for you to make a comparison, like, if a Wonder Looper t-shirt is an example of high quality, where does the price x quality relationship end, when we talk about, for example, the Loro Piana Gift Of Kings Clothing , I am genuinely intrigued by this subject, and this was very related to the theme of your video, besides, a big hug from Brazil
@wills-te3zy
@wills-te3zy 7 дней назад
Its also extremely difficult to quantify quality - usually the only data points a customer has to go off on is origin, composition, and brand. The other issue is that the average customer outside clothing enthusiast bubbles isn’t really discerning - making it difficult to get economies or scale started for solid mid-tier quality garments.
@drsrsv8884
@drsrsv8884 7 дней назад
no, you are wrong! It is easy to determine quality. Quality, goes with price. Also, with the nation it's made in. Simple....
@wills-te3zy
@wills-te3zy 7 дней назад
@@drsrsv8884 can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic lmao. by this the $1500 ripped made in italy balenciaga trash bag hoodie must be the peak of quality 😂
@drsrsv8884
@drsrsv8884 7 дней назад
@@wills-te3zy Sweetie, you being too poor to afford that, doesn't mean it's not quality. Get over yourself, bruv🤢
@wills-te3zy
@wills-te3zy 7 дней назад
@@drsrsv8884 nah i sleep in my $10,000 boxer briefs woven from cristobal’s preserved hairs. made in italy of course! 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
@martinvanburen4578
@martinvanburen4578 7 дней назад
it's not that difficult to quantify quality it comes down to material first and foremost. Good cotton. Good wool. Good cashmere. The problem is the incentive to always charge more and deliver less. Then the next part of quality is labor: squeeze labor to the barest penny and charge more. Move the factory from America to China to Turkey to Vietnam to Bangladesh to....the next cheapest place on Earth.
@TooSmalley
@TooSmalley 6 дней назад
The whole “an average piece of clothing is worn seven times before being discarded” statement is super suspect. That data was base on a census of 2,000 women 16 and up in the U.K. The charity that did the survey Barnardo does not have the data available anywhere online to scrutinize. It’s cited all over the place, but the actual source is not available as far as I can tell.
@steven7169
@steven7169 5 дней назад
I watched a bunch of videos to confirm the bias I have based off a spurious stat.
@toleranceapparel
@toleranceapparel 4 дня назад
This is a great topic, I'm glad you did a video on it. Quality is still out there, but when you find it, are you willing to pay for it? Thanks for the video!
@kathleenhensley5951
@kathleenhensley5951 22 часа назад
I decided to watch your video because I've bought several pieces of clothing, in the last few years, that have fallen apart before or immediately after I wear them once of twice. I've got a new tee shirt that fell apart when I washed it before wearing it. It's a shame your company only deals in Men's clothing. I do sew and I am thinking seriously of devoting more time to making my own shirts. I'm not a mistress of my needle but I'll make clothes that won't fall apart before I ever wear them. Good luck with your company! I hope you succeed!
@seanmiller7187
@seanmiller7187 7 дней назад
Miss you on Theo and Harris. Are you going to pop in for a visit soon?
@euclidtan
@euclidtan День назад
"I could also be getting older and the kids are getting into fast fashion even more now" 🤣 - that's a good self-awareness moment.
@joeromano6549
@joeromano6549 3 дня назад
I like comfort colors for tee's. Loop wheeled (or used to be at least) 6oz and 100% cotton. I have been wearing the same shirt 2-3 times a week since 2016 and it's only just now started to get holes.
@88sstraight
@88sstraight 7 дней назад
Virtually everything is cheaper relative to our incomes now, exempting housing. There are just so many more things that people expect to have that aren’t necessities.
@Unknowntyper
@Unknowntyper 4 дня назад
I basically shop EBAY, vintage RL etc. and pay my local tailor. I have younger friends that are shocked at my 20 years + old garments.
@loonapoona731
@loonapoona731 День назад
SAME.
@HEMAYATC
@HEMAYATC 5 дней назад
Great mug! I love Lou's from Hanover!
@surfmorworkless
@surfmorworkless 5 дней назад
This man is hilarious and informative. Love his videos.
@DanielSzilagyi
@DanielSzilagyi 6 дней назад
I do see the trend for people going better and higher quality for sure, it’s still very niche but I think it’s part mind set and also part income and where you are in your life. I can’t see a full time working parent for example necessarily spending a $100 on a t shirt vs I younger professional who might because they have that extra income. Personally myself I’ve taken the last two years to really cut down on overall items but to have the few be very high quality.
@ek-nz
@ek-nz 2 дня назад
Was just talking about this today regarding shoes. It’s called “the race to the bottom”. But cheap shoes are more expensive than quality shoes in the long run - you just rent ‘em (in other words, what’s the price per wear).
@ElevatedSkins
@ElevatedSkins 4 дня назад
Thanks for covering this. I’ve become aware of the amount of plastic in everything and synthetic fibers. Try finding a gray T-shirt that isn’t 10% poly. Or 100% cotton/wool socks. Everything is being blended with plastics and paper thin. A trend of cheap cotton clothing has been on the rise though I’m often surprised by the cotton articles found at big box stores or places like old navy.
@turdferguson7686
@turdferguson7686 День назад
red white & blue is a made in us brand with very affordable shirts that are great. can get solid color ones for $10-$15 each. theyre cotton/poly blend but feel great and have held up great so far for me. their sweatshirts/pants are also incredibly soft and comfy for a good price. origin also makes made in US clothes, their jeans are the best ive worn and all i wear now. forloh has some great stuff, not super cheap unless on sale though. forty five makes good tees. duckworth makes some really nice merino wool based shirts, sweatshirts, etc but it is not cheap. i have several of their vaporwear tee's and theyre really nice. their woolcloud jacket too. theres tons of good made in us stuff out there if you spend some time to look. its just not $3 and shipped to you later that day so it is ignored because so many have become lazy consoomers too focused on instant gratification consooming for as little money as possible.
@bonehand87
@bonehand87 7 дней назад
3:25 this isn’t a vintage 1980s t shirt, it’s a modern day T1011 which is only sold to the Japanese market. They only sell made in USA champion in Japan these days.
@TheIronSnail
@TheIronSnail 7 дней назад
Oh that’s interesting - I bought it at a dead-stock vintage shop in the city and the owner said it was an 80’s piece! I’m actually going there today funny enough so I’ll bring it up to him
@bonehand87
@bonehand87 7 дней назад
@@TheIronSnail easy mistake given the great quality! They can be bought brand new from the Japanese Champion Hanes brand website.
@EDHBlvd
@EDHBlvd 7 дней назад
People who actually buy SHEIN should be charged with war crimes.
@variklane7032
@variklane7032 7 дней назад
Fr
@jamesskyrm8488
@jamesskyrm8488 7 дней назад
You’re being ridiculous.
@GenjiShimada
@GenjiShimada 7 дней назад
Guilty then
@tylerpeterson5199
@tylerpeterson5199 7 дней назад
I get it’s a joke but maybe instead of people who are broke who buy cheap clothes being the punchline maybe you should direct that energy towards the people who produce that shit who are ultimately responsible for it existing in the first place.
@AdamManley7
@AdamManley7 7 дней назад
@@tylerpeterson5199they wouldn’t be able to make money off of them if they didn’t buy
@kelseymolon
@kelseymolon 4 дня назад
Hi! Where’d you get your pocket tee? Looks great!
@-CMajor-
@-CMajor- 7 дней назад
Really well put together!! Great vid
@siggeslug3009
@siggeslug3009 4 дня назад
Why does the snail look like he is gonna start a britpopband from the 90s - early 00s?
@Official_MikeyT
@Official_MikeyT 3 дня назад
TONIGHT! Harris talks about the downfall of clothing quality, Drew Joiner is mentioned, and snails are forged from iron.
@leonclausen5776
@leonclausen5776 7 дней назад
Your video(s) are so random but you find a way to explain complex and interesting topics through them. I love it! It’s so fun and informative, makes me happy to learn and appreciate you as a random person and good quality clothing!
@dominiqueridoux2073
@dominiqueridoux2073 5 дней назад
I wonder why this could be happening??? 1. Sellers increasing their margin by buying cheap product (that will require replacement often hence more sales) AND not making inspections (saving cost)? 2. Customs not being funded well enough to make sure any goods reaching the market are up to legal quality standards? 3. Regulation not strong enough (basically not punishing the importers of bad products) and fines not up to the challenge (slap on the wrist when caught)? 4. All of the above. In short, you pay peanuts, you get monkeys...
@krisjonesuk
@krisjonesuk 7 дней назад
There is another trend for “designers” to sell rubbish at vastly inflated prices. For example, I see cobblers have a new line of business in fitting red rubber soles to Christian Louboutin shoes. These shoes sell in the UK for over £1,000, but they’ve never been near a sole stitcher. For that price people could buy two or maybe three pairs of properly made shoes of decent quality.
@thrihyrne_oaken
@thrihyrne_oaken 7 дней назад
Your dedication to supporting creativity and awesome videos is truly inspiring! I'll buy your shirt no matter the cost if it funds your creativity and awesome videos!! 😁
@garyburke6156
@garyburke6156 6 дней назад
it comes down to the fact that what we expect from a piece of clothing has multiple conflicting goals. We all need clothes. We say we want quality, and the idea in the abstract of buying a shirt that lasts for decades, sounds good, but then people get bored. Fashion CHANGES, and what looked good twenty years ago looks laughable now, which is why people make fun of boomers or Gen-Xers being stuck in the past, or trying to jump on trends for the youth, which kills those trends more surely than anything. A t-shirt or jeans have been "in style" for 75 years - but what kind of t-shirt? big, loose? tight? with a print on it? blank? colored or white? boxy or athletic? and jeans go from skinny to wide and back every ten or fifteen years. So any piece of clothing, no matter how "basic", goes in and out of style over the decades of life. And people, in particular the younger generation of teens and 20 somethings, care much more about something being stylistically ''current' than quality. fashion is a game they're playing. I dont think its an accident that as people who care about clothes get into their 30s and 40s, they grow tired of trend chasing, and start to seek out timeless quality basics that will last longer than a year or two. and their style starts to settle down into what looked reasonably current in 1997 or 2008 or 2019.
@rubberlover666
@rubberlover666 4 дня назад
I also think that the return to buying better made stuff at higher prices is happening. The last big menswear boom where everyone was going nuts over heritage / made in US clothes was around 2010 as we were climbing out of a recession. With current inflation kinda lowering, and with global warming rapidly accelerating, I think people are seriously putting thought into where and how their clothes are made and that the slogan "buy once, buy better" will save you money in the long run. But it is hard to compete with larger companies that can make make whatever you want for as cheap as you want. However, it is happening in other markets. Look at coffee and beer. I don't know anyone who drinks corporate anymore when you can get much better, locally made stuff for about the same price. Maybe as more people like you get into the fashion game, similar things will start to happen?
@CrispyFrenFry
@CrispyFrenFry 5 дней назад
I love this breakdown. I sincerely hope that your clothing brand considers plus size people as well because as someone who wears XXL clothing, it’s tough to support higher quality goods when they’re simply not available for purchase. I recognize this may cause more expense on your side but there may be an untapped market just waiting to emerge.
@siggi4ever555
@siggi4ever555 6 дней назад
Ooof! You should look into who just bought Champion.
@kiLLinEmSoFTly
@kiLLinEmSoFTly 6 дней назад
Good ol' HANESBRAND
@Ilsabb331
@Ilsabb331 6 дней назад
Thanks for the recent video and your channel. I appreciate your creative content. One way to combat the trend of declining quality is to purchase preowned / used high end lux brands versus new. I recently purchased a flawless NWOT Turnbull &Asser RTW shirt from "The RealReal" for $24.00. A similar shirt retails new from T&A for roughly $550.00. In my opinion, with very few exceptions, there's no reason to purchase new clothing at full retail prices. If you're patient and persistent, deals abound. Thanks again and cheers!
@Kbo513
@Kbo513 7 дней назад
Your button collections reminded me of the movie - War of the Buttons (1994). Great movie
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 День назад
I worked for Ralph Lauren 89-91. The quality of everything was like their most expensive Purple Label now. My old sweaters are so much better than anything I can find now, especially cashmere. Climate change has decreased quality in all natural fibers, fabric mills have disappeared so competition is reduced, and of course highly skilled workers are more rare. Even luxury goods are not as well made in general and cost proportionately more.
@loonapoona731
@loonapoona731 День назад
Im going to need some resources on how climate change is a reason for decreased quality in natural fibers. Many businesses/corps just find ways to cut corners and pay for the cheapest labor, which usually shows in the seams. Sferra sheets are still top-notch and use extra long staple cotton (as do a few other brands). I only look for long or extra long staple when buying cotton anything. Same with cashmere and wool. There has always been different grades of natural fibers. Companies just look for the cheapest grade, and again, pair it with the cheapest labor.
@fredk6992
@fredk6992 5 дней назад
Surely the main reason is that consumers just dont care, why on earth would you put time and effort into making good clothes when your customers dont even want it and would rather it be cheaper. Also why a lot of the good clothes today are made in Japan where (not all but more than the west) consumers seem to be a bit more demanding.
@gatofeo2661
@gatofeo2661 7 дней назад
The best T-shirt brand I've found so far in terms of Dirt-to-Shirt made in USA with good labor pay is Cotton of the Carolinas by TSDesigns. I plan to buy some of their products for myself soon but would love to see a feature with them in your amazing videographic style :^)
@sikhanzut
@sikhanzut 7 дней назад
Yo update for the iron heart denim pls
@davefromnewbrunswick8531
@davefromnewbrunswick8531 4 дня назад
Love the Drew reference
@aussieexpatwatches
@aussieexpatwatches 5 дней назад
i think you did things right in the video regarding inflation. Hopefully that apparel specific inflation numbers simply reflected your observations. But anyway, I'll take your concrete observations over gov data either way.
@gads994
@gads994 4 дня назад
I notice recently wrangler leather patch on the back pocket are looks cheap it doesn't look like genuine quality anymore when you compare on old one
@HavokBringerof
@HavokBringerof 4 дня назад
I think an appropriate addition to your price research would be factoring in average salaries from the 1920's etc. to modern day. I've done zero research, but I'm reasonably confident that full time workers in the 20's and onward made proportionately more per year than modern workers. That may be another reason why modern shoppers don't buy as many high quality pieces.
@Westlake72
@Westlake72 6 дней назад
That is interesting you chose Patagonia prices in comparison to Sears because I would say that Patagonia has the best price/quality ratio of any brand I own.
@notname3790
@notname3790 7 дней назад
all the reason you've talked about, plus being into fashion already is probably the reason why I started to learn to sew/repair my own/f&f garments
@SeanLarrinaga
@SeanLarrinaga 7 дней назад
Always a pleasant surprise to see a post when I wake up on a Saturday!
@wagz54
@wagz54 6 дней назад
I do think we are shifting in a good direction. Brands like Buck Mason are in malls with made in USA stuff. Fingers crossed!
@ericclaptonsrobotpilot7276
@ericclaptonsrobotpilot7276 6 дней назад
5.2 oz should be the bare minimum for standard non-lightweight cotton t-shirts, and any vendor that charges premium prices for shitty digital printed or poorly done screen prints should be tarred and feathered. All these podcasters are selling Bella Canvas rags for $50+. And don’t get me started on the stitching. I think you would enjoy Redbar’s segment called Cheap Champions.
@Rudidly
@Rudidly 5 дней назад
I’ve been spending ~$60/year on a new pair of Vans every years for about 20 years now. The price hasn’t changed and quality has gone up and down in that time. They are solid now but it was hard to love em in the late 2010s.
@07scsu
@07scsu 7 дней назад
I think that people tend to have an irrational fear of buying used clothing. I’d say that 80% of my clothes are used and what I’d consider high quality. I wear merino wool shirts, hats, and socks year round. I wear vintage canvas pants. I haven’t bought anything in a retail clothing store in 19 years. Thanks for the educational, informative and always entertaining videos. Take care.
@drsrsv8884
@drsrsv8884 7 дней назад
buying used is awful. Just more silly bs, forced onto to people, by corrupt governments/companies. Just like carbon footprint, or any bs thing meant to pass blame to lowly plebs....
@gavinellson
@gavinellson 5 дней назад
00:02 Clothing quality has significantly declined 02:04 Plastic in clothing is making things cheaper and faster to make 03:48 Clothing construction has become faster but cheaper, resulting in poor quality. 05:41 Importance of analyzing historical pricing data 07:34 Clothing prices have generally decreased over time. 09:49 Shift from expensive to cheap clothing due to logistical and consumer demands. 11:38 Quality of clothing is decreasing as prices go down 13:22 Lack of understanding fair pricing and quality in modern clothing industry 15:11 Clothing quality fluctuated over time.
@tylerpeterson5199
@tylerpeterson5199 7 дней назад
Very interesting analysis. I feel like you may be missing the forest for the tree though. Through a broader materialist lens, you can observe that, although the prices of garments have remained consistent with inflation, wages and housing have not. A worker may have spent $11.75 on a wool coat from sears but the average worker was also paying $720 annually for rent and earning and annual income of $3,269.40. Housing accounted for 22% of an average worker’s expenses, meanwhile today an average worker is spending 54% of their yearly expenses on housing (spending $20,556 on rent annually and earning and income of $37,585.) The economics of neoliberalism just don’t allow workers to have access to high quality garments.
@dijojohn38
@dijojohn38 6 дней назад
This is not neo liberal economics. This is known as not enough construction activity.
@tylerpeterson5199
@tylerpeterson5199 6 дней назад
@@dijojohn38 you must not know very much about neoliberal economics. Offshoring "construction activity" is very much part of the neoliberal economic model: beginning under Carter in the 70s and exploding under Clinton after signing NAFTA.
@castorsia
@castorsia 6 дней назад
Very good point.
@StephenDavisMonsignor
@StephenDavisMonsignor 6 дней назад
@@tylerpeterson5199great points.. although I think this off-shore thing really started under Nixon and his infamous trip to China in 1972. That blew the floodgates wide open in the coming years. Heck I remember my Dad commenting on that in ~1972, “Well.. there goes that..” referring to quality. I was about 7 then and remember that well. It’s funny how Japan has been the near polar opposite in creating more quality products overall.. albeit still somewhat slated for a level of obsolescence (as opposed to upgrading or refreshing).
@EvanZamir
@EvanZamir 7 дней назад
Honestly bro you need to have your own Dateline type of show. But like for clothing. But like actually for whatever because you’d probably kill it regardless of topic.
@kbar11
@kbar11 2 дня назад
I'm not really into clothes or fashion. I know clothes are less quality then the past however I have nearly always worn clothes I own for over two years or more. Unless I outgrow or a hole is made I keep em. Wild to think someone can wear something for 2 or 3 months and toss it
@curlyhairdudeify
@curlyhairdudeify 2 дня назад
From personal experience, shirts made from 100% cotton are soft, and the ones with 40% polyester feel like sandpaper.
@teenagestacker6063
@teenagestacker6063 7 дней назад
This is why it's good to save up and buy high quality construction and fibers, or buy second hand, you'll end up wearing things you love for longer and cheaper in the long run!
@neuro.weaver
@neuro.weaver 7 дней назад
The quality of the J.Crew shorts and jeans shirt today are way, way lower than the 1994 ones. So, comparing only (even inflation corrected ) prices does not tell the entire story. In 2008 the company importing genuine Timberland and Nautica products to Greece was going out of business so they held a fire-sale for all their old stock, some from the mid 1990s. I bought 9€ chinos pants and 7€ shirts that day by the armful. The price is besides the point. The point is that 16 years later, I still have some of those chinos. However, all Nautica chinos I bought after 2010, they open up between my upper legs within 8-12 months.
@2WheelsGood.01
@2WheelsGood.01 5 дней назад
Plenty of excellent clothing out there. The issue is the cost for the average consumer and the lack of personal responsibility to do research. I own mostly merino wool and cotton items. The poly stuff I have is recycled poly or Nylon and will likely outlive me as I am willing to fix just about anything I own. As terrible as synthetics can be, they do great in terms of durability and wicking for outdoor activities. Buy less stuff, but higher quality stuff, fix your stuff, and stop falling for trend shams, they only exist to get you to consume more stuff you don't need. I can fit all of my wardrobe in one 50L duffle bag. It is also YOUR responsibility as a consumer to do some research on the brands you are buying from. Are they doing ethical sourcing? Ethical labor practices? Bluesign certified materials? Etc etc etc etc. Ultimately we are voting with our hard earned money.
@Plague_Doc22
@Plague_Doc22 7 дней назад
I would love for you to cover Asket. It's a swedish brand that talks about high quality stuff and transparency in costs and such. Would be an interesting thing for you to breakdown.
@amazed2341
@amazed2341 5 дней назад
Owned by H&M btw
@Plague_Doc22
@Plague_Doc22 5 дней назад
@@amazed2341 Incorrect. Arket is owned by H&M. Not Asket
@DustandPiers
@DustandPiers 5 дней назад
For years, when people have challenged me on the cost of my clothing, I have replied by saying that I'm just making sure, as best I can, that I am paying for the garment, rather than someone else involved in its production who doesn't have a choice. There is no $10 t-shirt. Someone else is paying - somehow - the difference.
@Gulgonful
@Gulgonful 5 дней назад
Michael Have you tried the Danner 1932 collection?
@jamesforrest9837
@jamesforrest9837 7 дней назад
"perhaps a $1000 t-shirt and a $1 t-shirt are equally unjust, you're just paying for one of them." best quote
@hemantshahi2032
@hemantshahi2032 6 дней назад
Dude had a dream and quickly made this video before he forget it
@ElBoyoElectronico
@ElBoyoElectronico 6 дней назад
I have an H&M Shirt from the Nineties. It is still fully intact and a has a super solid construction.
@MrDanielEarle
@MrDanielEarle 3 дня назад
I got an ad in the middle of the Target ad
@teekue
@teekue 7 дней назад
I don't like plastic buttons either but I think this is a bad example. Plastic buttons are super durable compared to for example mother of pearl, not as nice but certainly not a use once application.
@juansehincapie2596
@juansehincapie2596 7 дней назад
Broo the Drew reference 😭
@one-piece-chicken-combo
@one-piece-chicken-combo 7 дней назад
God watching your vids in the morning with tea is peak weekend activities 😅
@daianspahava8279
@daianspahava8279 7 дней назад
I got some good cheap clothes from Ross and some good quality clothes for cheap at other places I still love my Levi’s 501s and 505s but know they won’t last long as compared to the 70- early 2000s Levi’s denim Also the clothing and mass production has made it a lot worse, too many cheap clothing companies that give too many options and too many options means that many will cut corners like street wear brands that make overly expensive and overpriced clothes with no value or quality to speak off only for the Rich to flex and make themselves look like money but in all things I’ve seen even those loose designer pants and hoodie looks, it makes them look like a mess and that they don’t know how to dress
@ggggggggggggggggg1
@ggggggggggggggggg1 7 дней назад
excellent video
@Alexed.w
@Alexed.w 5 дней назад
For the past-present comparison did you use real inflation or just nominal though? Using nominal (inflation without accounting for average wage growth) would make the research less conclusive imo.
@samwroblewski748
@samwroblewski748 5 дней назад
American Giant just announced it's going to sell product in Walmart
@ACINGHAM
@ACINGHAM 7 дней назад
Shout out to Marple in the video! Random. (My home village).
@littlepotato2741
@littlepotato2741 6 дней назад
When looking at goods and inflation over time, I think it is also relevant to look at the median income changes over that time. Prices changes of the goods might be similar or cheaper after adjustment (ignoring quality for a moment), the median income is not even close to increasing that amount. So the relative cost compared to income is more. It small, but important point to the story. For some people, that $2 teashirt means they have food on the table. Obviously, I'm not saying that everyone is in that position, but it is a factor for an increasing amount of people. Fun and interesting watch. Thanks.
@saphna2095
@saphna2095 6 дней назад
manufacturing and supply lines are optimized now for the bad quality cheap stuff, hopefully, buyers conscience shifts such that we can get well made good materials for appropriate prices...otherwise it's just going to be those big brands that can afford to launch "prestige" brands for super exaggerated prices
@lookthroughmycamera
@lookthroughmycamera 7 дней назад
I haven’t noticed a difference. I have cheap pants and expensive pants, cheap shirts and expensive shirts, they have lasted me a long time. The nicer stuff ages better I guess. It all comes down to the fit. If it fits nice, you will look and feel good. Also, the clothes will last you because you’re not stressing it out every time you wear it
@tylerpeterson5199
@tylerpeterson5199 7 дней назад
Microplastics in your water supply is probably not something you personally would notice, no?
@2WheelsGood.01
@2WheelsGood.01 5 дней назад
There's a lot more to it that what you perceive as an end consumer. Higher priced items (not just higher price, you have to do a little research on the brand) also use ethical material sourcing, ethical labor sourcing, nicer materials with better quality control, Bluesign certification, etc etc etc. All of this raises the manufacturing cost significantly.
@weird-guy
@weird-guy 4 дня назад
Everyone talks sht about fast fashion but most things i had always lasted 10 years nowadays is a little less around 7 years. Nowadays you can’t trust blindly on brands they are also cheapned their products, for example Levi’s suck everyone said they were good quality but I discovered is not true 😂 People that wear clothes only 7 times are probably middle class woman with nothing better to do than shopping sprees
@scriveinonda
@scriveinonda 6 дней назад
Is there a channel you'd recommend like yours but for women's apparel?
@mcnuonuo
@mcnuonuo 6 дней назад
Thought you would've thrown Filson under the bus when talking about price up and quality down.
@hathaway5724
@hathaway5724 7 дней назад
Was wondering when hangover chic became professional?
@ckm-mkc
@ckm-mkc 7 дней назад
You must be new here.
@hathaway5724
@hathaway5724 7 дней назад
@@ckm-mkc Not exactly, but am here as this guy is meticulous and so appreciate all the dimensions he’s so devoted to mastering at once. Cheering on from afar! Will def purchase soon. But I was having a kind of cognitive dissonance watching the early presentation when he interjected his own correction. We all have our glitches ;) His earthy meticulousness is his charm. And professional standards and continuity matter. Onward, wishing every success to the Snail. Truly, you are needed.
@turdferguson7686
@turdferguson7686 День назад
wait, who the hell is throwing away clothes after wearing only 7 times? im guessing its because so many are buying pure shit tier things from temu, shein, etc? this is what happens when you outsource everything to 3rd world countries focused on low cost at all cost. we screwed ourselves by trying to save a few cents per item. and now most people dont even care if theyre buying American or not so theyre not willing to pay any sort of premium or spend a little time searching out local made things. its sad on every level.
@alejandroplata2180
@alejandroplata2180 6 дней назад
Love the video but I feel like the thumbnail is a bit disingenuous. Tons of super high quality vintage pieces from the 60s-80s are made entirely or mostly of plastic and will last forever.
@JakeBodenhamer
@JakeBodenhamer 7 дней назад
That is NOT Drew Joiner 😂
@willhorne35
@willhorne35 6 дней назад
Great ad
@EDCWITHME
@EDCWITHME 6 дней назад
Thanks for this deep dive.
@knifenutsdave
@knifenutsdave 7 дней назад
I would love to believe the pendulum is swinging back towards higher quality, natural materials, but sadly just look at J.Crew as a case study. Probably the most widely available/cheapest source of "quality" clothing (not all products obvs because their catalog is huge, but the core products), and they've been in sketchy financial territory for a while. One of two J.Crew's in RI was just turned into a J.Crew Factory store, which is their shit tier line, and undoubtedly will bring in more revenue.
@chrishumetewa1658
@chrishumetewa1658 4 дня назад
drew joiner looks mad different
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