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Why Coal Country Elected Trump 

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Nowhere in America can the coal industry’s hurt be seen and felt more than in Appalachia. The region’s economy revolves around coal, and more miners are losing their jobs each year. The controversial industry became a focal point of the 2016 election when President Trump made the return of coal jobs a central campaign promise, but the economics behind this suffering industry extend beyond policy and regulations.
VICE’s Isobel Yeung goes to the heart of coal country to see what it will take to save Appalachia.
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@VICENews
@VICENews 4 года назад
VICE’s Isobel Yeung goes to the heart of coal country to see what it will take to save Appalachia. WATCH NEXT: Meet The Indiana Joneses of Hawaiian Plant Rescue Missions - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-59Noq49Swxk.html
@ohne279
@ohne279 4 года назад
VOTE FOR TRUMP
@ohne279
@ohne279 4 года назад
@@americansforhire5378 do you have a TIA 😂
@americansforhire5378
@americansforhire5378 4 года назад
@@ohne279 of course I maybe
@TOMAS-lh4er
@TOMAS-lh4er 4 года назад
@@americansforhire5378 They are being hit like "DETROIT" , and " STEEL" did in the seventies and 80s !
@ropro9817
@ropro9817 4 года назад
That shit caaaaaaaan't be good for your lungs... Isobel, why aren't you wearing a mask???
@TheLazyass111
@TheLazyass111 4 года назад
Not a trump supporter. But the people like this and others from the midwest have been ignored for years and as jobs leave and people lose ways to support their family, they will vote for whoever gives them the time of day
@jenniekelly571
@jenniekelly571 4 года назад
It's been that way for 50 years. I can't believe that the people in this country actually believe what a candidate says while they are campaigning, then expect them to keep their word. I cannot name 1 candidate in the past 40 years (that's how long I've observed) that kept their campaign promises when they made it to the Oval Office, NONE!! So when people's remark is, "He/She said they were going to do that once they were President." Really??? I wanted to be a Rock Star when I was younger, my Mom told me I could. I can't sing well, but Mom told me I could do it, and I expect her to keep her word........................Give me a break.......
@Mekose
@Mekose 4 года назад
Sad thing is Trump lied (big surprise); he's cutting funding for Appalachia AND Coal despite what he said. So these poor people voted for a man that immediately went against his promise and were left with no representation.
@jenniekelly571
@jenniekelly571 4 года назад
@@Mekose Unfortunately, it's been that way for 40 years. ALL people campaigning for President tell people what they want to hear, then don't do what they said they were going to do. I'm 53, every Presidential candidate since I was 13 (that's when I started to pay attention) has lied, ALL OF THEM. It REALLY surprises me that anyone believes anything a candidate says.............
@apajpap
@apajpap 4 года назад
They tried government programs to retrain coal workers but they hate big gubament
@Lex60
@Lex60 4 года назад
That´s populism. Is always the same in poor places.
@chrishealey7092
@chrishealey7092 4 года назад
Wow, those kids doing the 3d printing are remarkable and bright-I really hope that they are able to modernize the communities and lift them and their families out of poverty.
@JKenpachu
@JKenpachu 4 года назад
Jesus.... were are modernized. Pull your head out of your ass. It’s not like we’re living here with horse drawn carriages.
@97Multiphantom
@97Multiphantom 4 года назад
Kenpachu no one is saying you guys aren’t caught up with the rest of the country in terms of technological advancements. Where you aren’t modernized is in your work culture. Coal mines stopped being a viable source of income for workers years ago, but instead of trying to move on to something else, the vast majority of you cling to the words of business moguls and the politicians in their pockets that your jobs are magically coming back somehow, dispute all evidence pointing to the contrary.
@usaryder74
@usaryder74 4 года назад
They will have to move to bigger centers. We will have more and more ghost towns near coal mines. The decline of communities.
@christiansantos7164
@christiansantos7164 4 года назад
Chris Healey yess! I’m so proud of them. The new generation is so much better at embracing change. I pray that they become a technology hub in their region. Those kids will hit the ground running!
@muuubiee
@muuubiee 4 года назад
I'm not sure how much they actually did, since I don't know what is contained in a prescription. If the prescription contain a 3d model all they had to do was use something like blender to convert it to an .stl, and then hit print (with a suitable material, like PTU). If they had to code an interpreter for the prescription then they're actually bright. At least they're on the right track, and just getting familiar with tech is a huge step. Doing things you don't really understand is sometimes the hardest part in learning. So hats off to them.
@michaelvance4492
@michaelvance4492 3 года назад
I was born in Logan, WV grew up in a coal mining family and lived in Belfry, KY for a couple of years before returning back to WV. I was taught at a young age that it was either mining or college. No in between. And that if I chose college, I'd have to leave my home to find work. Seeing all the towns and communities I grew up around, dying, boarded up, half empty because their only economy is being closed has given me a goal and purpose that I will work tirelessly to fill. I went to college and obtained a cybersecurity degree and currently, I am working with state officials and programs to help establish a tech industry in Southern WV. Tired of seeing my people desperate for change and everyone in DC pretending like we don't exist until elections come up. We know coal isn't the future, but when it's all you have you'll do what you can to keep it. A coal miner makes anywhere from $40k-$80k a year and even more when you get into specialist roles like roof bolting or fireboss. There's nothing else in these communities to replace that kind of salary and when you have a bunch of people making that kind of money, feeding it into the local economy, when those jobs are gone, the stores and businesses in town start to close. This has got to change and I, along with many other Appalachians are leading that change.
@yidy1
@yidy1 3 года назад
You're doing holy work! Keep it up!
@brianeckland7913
@brianeckland7913 3 года назад
Good for you. Keep it up
@elasmotherium12
@elasmotherium12 3 года назад
That’s very encouraging to hear. Keep it up.
@zbdmo4914
@zbdmo4914 3 года назад
great job!
@henk-3098
@henk-3098 3 года назад
It's sad to hear, really! Coal is the past, West-Virginia needs to find other sources of economic activity, I hope your plan succeeds! It's really encouraging seeing someone return to a struggling state instead of leaving it for good!
@star4shine100
@star4shine100 2 года назад
Coming from a Liberal and acknowledging that Vice tends to be more left leaning, I'm really happy they ran this episode. The idea that all Trump supporters are uneducated, insulated and racist is quite a classist outlook, and silences the voice of millions of Americans who really do (and understandably so) feel forgotten. Props to Isobel for another great segment!
@Yosef9438
@Yosef9438 5 месяцев назад
As a left-winger, neolibs like Reagan and Clinton and you are the reason we have these problems.
@CB-db1qx
@CB-db1qx 4 года назад
"Rusty Justice". Please take a moment to admire that name.
@saqibzaman1476
@saqibzaman1476 4 года назад
Exactly the most hillbilly name ever but I rate him creating jobs for people in his community
@devinfritchey7323
@devinfritchey7323 4 года назад
@Richard Ainsworth Hahahah..........you made me sad
@donalobroin1775
@donalobroin1775 4 года назад
Sounds like a Robocop spin-off set post retirement.
@maulrieze
@maulrieze 4 года назад
Sounds like a blues band
@eifelitorn
@eifelitorn 4 года назад
there's also a baseball player named Rusty Kuntz, admire that..
@Dankdalorde
@Dankdalorde 4 года назад
Coal is a dying industry. It’s sad though that these people have to be in the middle of it-even if we may disagree politically
@bjxxx
@bjxxx 4 года назад
Even if coal was a viable energy option, automation would still do away with the vast majority of those jobs. That part seems to fly over the heads of many who dream of the good old days.
@General_Eisenhower1945
@General_Eisenhower1945 4 года назад
Coals gonna be viable till it's gone. Frankly I'm waiting for steam to return and destroy the new electric locomotive.
@bjxxx
@bjxxx 4 года назад
@@General_Eisenhower1945 the jobs will still be gone due to automation. Not coming back.
@General_Eisenhower1945
@General_Eisenhower1945 4 года назад
@@bjxxx some will be, but you can still have a job in the industry maintaining/ managing the machines
@KevinRAAMAAAGE
@KevinRAAMAAAGE 4 года назад
I live in a coal state and I agree. There are a lot of impoverished people in wyoming. Most of the rich people move in from out of state, like the Cheney's. The only good thing we have is new roads... thankfully were catching on quickly with wind farms and we sell the majority of our power to large cities that may not be capable of having a windfarm. I'm happy to say 100% of our electricity is from the windfarm up the road. Now we still have gas, and sometimes it can suck because 1 raccoon is capable of leaving 10,000+ people without power for a day.
@kingsfan4life2
@kingsfan4life2 4 года назад
Man, I really feel for those people. They all just seem like honest, hardworking folks.
@jackmomma7481
@jackmomma7481 Год назад
Not quite. Most miners are not the good hard working people that propaganda makes them out to be. Don't get me wrong, there are some good ones you will work with that keep things real and will do the work... but they're few and far between
@fiddlestickzmuzik
@fiddlestickzmuzik 4 года назад
That town should look at inventing some sort of year round tourism like hiking, mountain biking and something to do with the natural beauty of the mountains and surrounding land.
@Youngsavge-or2ro
@Youngsavge-or2ro 4 года назад
Those jobs dont pay 30$ an hr and the big $ coal mine owners dont care about them
@crossthekxng943
@crossthekxng943 4 года назад
its what southern Appalachia does, but it still shrouded in poverty, because tourist jobs don't pay that well but much better off than the coal towns
@XiangYu94
@XiangYu94 4 года назад
Underrated comment, seriously we should be brainstorming new industries.
@jrsmith2696
@jrsmith2696 4 года назад
They do that’s not going to cut it. Tech companies should invest in that area. Lots of cheap land and cheap buildings to use.
@michaelyu3678
@michaelyu3678 3 года назад
@@jrsmith2696 well they need the money for it but not now and they're focusing on the rich cities
@dk2428
@dk2428 4 года назад
Who else is having trouble breathing, just watching this video!?
@mrfaysal2485
@mrfaysal2485 4 года назад
Not me ,,me
@3TYKX
@3TYKX 4 года назад
Me. I know its her job but every time VICE sends Isobel to these dangerous places I can't breath.
@iVince905
@iVince905 4 года назад
I wonder how many people got lung cancer after watching this video
@cashen7384
@cashen7384 4 года назад
i want to see the inside of the guys lungs that was wearing the doom shirt. bet their black
@doingtime20
@doingtime20 4 года назад
"The only constant in life is change". It kind of baffles me that even in this day and age where we have so much information at our disposal people don't realize this truth, things always change. Just because the job was available and was very profitable for your grandfather and father doesn't mean it will be there waiting for you and will provide you your whole life, you have to observe your environment and realize the changes that come, and of course act accordingly to them.
@TESkyrimizer
@TESkyrimizer 4 года назад
So true. Its the same not with coal but with oil. Look at what happened to Venezuela.
@keerthivelm7530
@keerthivelm7530 4 года назад
I say "Change alone is permanent"
@IHateMyAccountName
@IHateMyAccountName 4 года назад
When something is provided and seemingly guaranteed for generations, it warps your sense of the world around you. The lack of education and resources in the areas where coal is the strongest keeps these people insulated. It's sad.
@RegicideKo9
@RegicideKo9 4 года назад
Alright, and I'm sure you'll say the same thing to the black kid in the ghetto that joined a gang just so he could get some food. White rural kids are in the same exact position. Money doesn't pop up out of nowhere and there aren't any 'white rural kid' scholarships going around.
@jonproxy2758
@jonproxy2758 4 года назад
What lol? You’ve worked in a coal mine for 40 years and you got laid off!? Just learn how to code dude. SO easy bro.
@jimmybond148
@jimmybond148 4 года назад
I think there’s been a significant improvement in vice documentaries in the last year
@shivmishra1372
@shivmishra1372 3 года назад
Yes they’re
@theoriginaltommysteward
@theoriginaltommysteward 3 года назад
Yes! It's really good to see.
@nicolascrosbie7875
@nicolascrosbie7875 3 года назад
They’re at least covering stuff like this and the uyghurs.
@jono601
@jono601 4 года назад
Because it’s their livelihood. You try switching careers when you’re 40.
@TUBESPECIFIC1
@TUBESPECIFIC1 4 года назад
Nobody hardly wants to hire you when you get past 40. Ageism is a very real issue of employment discrimination. If you limp or have some flaw, then you are perpetually at great disadvantage. While we don't have pensions coming our way like older generations, we also mostly don't enjoy solid full time stable career opportunity with employment security. It's a crapanomic system...
@nmarrs8539
@nmarrs8539 4 года назад
Yea but, since this industry has been slowly dying for 50 years. Maybe just maybe they should look for something else as how to make money. It’s not like they couldn’t see this coming. They didn’t want to believe it. They stuck their heads in the sand and now they’re in trouble. Go figure.
@MrMccurley
@MrMccurley 4 года назад
@@nmarrs8539 While I detested HRC's crude comments, I agree with you. Not saying fossil fuels are "evil", I can see a strong future for natural gas, but coal is so damned dirty a fuel, it's use should be phased out.
@FYMASMD
@FYMASMD 4 года назад
I switched careers at 40. 57 now. Worked out great. Just have to pick well and work at it. I'm going to be able to retire at 65 now. It can be done.
@lukecronquist6003
@lukecronquist6003 4 года назад
Boo hoo you can switch careers when you're 90.
@marvinwilliams4223
@marvinwilliams4223 4 года назад
Let me guess before watching the video. These people had hopes that their jobs would come back and they would thrive but either nothing happened or things got worse....
@marvinwilliams4223
@marvinwilliams4223 4 года назад
After watching the video. Damn I was in point.
@MicahMicahel
@MicahMicahel 4 года назад
well... the economy is great and unemployment is a the lowest level in 50 years. Doesn't that count for something?
@darkninja___
@darkninja___ 4 года назад
Nutsilica: Renaissance moving comix The economy is only good for the rich. If you are in the bottom 50% things have gotten worse, not better.
@Rocmax417
@Rocmax417 4 года назад
Nutsilica: Renaissance moving comix the Dow is down 2000 points this week, the biggest loss in American history
@rmdgarfias
@rmdgarfias 4 года назад
Not really, they are trying to move on bro, those kids.... at least....
@AidenYuso
@AidenYuso 4 года назад
6:34 can we just admire that doom t shirt
@lkym2481
@lkym2481 4 года назад
somebody call GQ
@ezradelsman6743
@ezradelsman6743 4 года назад
Hanger theme intensifies
@vaper8824
@vaper8824 4 года назад
A man of culture
@brianwilliams7335
@brianwilliams7335 4 года назад
and have NO PITY for someone that has 6 fuckin children! and then complain your poor...... pppfft
@KevinHowardMusic
@KevinHowardMusic 4 года назад
Brian Williams, He had a good job when he had the kids. I’ll bet he knows the difference in your, and you’re, as well. That’s more than I can say about you.
@NortonNice
@NortonNice 4 года назад
8:08 "That's the dream?" "That's the goal." This kid is going places.
@TUBESPECIFIC1
@TUBESPECIFIC1 4 года назад
Kid made a brilliant response at 8:08. These kids have a couple good teachers batting for them probably teaching and coaching them very well.
@snoogboonin
@snoogboonin 4 года назад
You have to live where the jobs are these days. Living in rural America limits the amount job opportunities that are available.
@colddiesel
@colddiesel 3 года назад
Or move to where they are.
@user-bj8lw8tx1o
@user-bj8lw8tx1o 3 года назад
No. We have remote work now.
@syd5380
@syd5380 3 года назад
Ah so we’ll all just move to the cities
@Blank-km4qr
@Blank-km4qr 2 года назад
Oh wow why didn’t they think of that let’s just move this entire family of 10 300 miles while they have no money or applicable skills
@taf4939
@taf4939 2 года назад
@@Blank-km4qr that would be socialism, they hate socialism. They should pick up themselves by their bootstraps
@Kradle
@Kradle 4 года назад
Those are some very sharp high-schoolers. Even they know they're relying on a dying industry. We should try to find ways to establish industry related to power and infrastructure in towns like this too, instead of holding onto a dying industry. Seems like they're more dynamic and open to changing with the times than the media and public want to frame them out as.
@fredpinczuk7352
@fredpinczuk7352 4 года назад
Given those kids free education and watch what they will accomplish. Burden them with debts from day 1 after graduating, and watch the cycle repeat itself.
@anthonymartinez4780
@anthonymartinez4780 3 года назад
If they were smart they'd be looking at colleges or trade schools that can give lead them to a better future and if they choose to stay in the energy sector they can go into natural gas or renewable energy. If they choose to stay in a dying industry then they are as stupid as their parents.
@ryhol5417
@ryhol5417 3 года назад
Be a welder or electrical lineman. You’ll make more than nurses, and likely more than your coal town family together
@randyeddington4405
@randyeddington4405 3 года назад
Pack up and leave everything you ever loved or cared for, tell me how easy it is for you.....
@ryhol5417
@ryhol5417 3 года назад
@@randyeddington4405 people have done that since the beginning of people. If there’s nothing there, move and make things better for your family
@sammaelazrael6309
@sammaelazrael6309 4 года назад
Desperate people do desperate things.
@aaronburratwood.6957
@aaronburratwood.6957 4 года назад
Sammael Azrael Voting for trump the first time was a desperate choice. Realize he lied and let’s get a strong blue collar economy back in America again. Shift these coal jobs to green energy.
@adamkingston2231
@adamkingston2231 4 года назад
CheezusCrust like electing someone who isn’t corrupt and cares about average people
@vaper8824
@vaper8824 4 года назад
Sammael Azrael I would rather suck sausages than work in a coal mine
@rayage777
@rayage777 4 года назад
Except go to school to learn a new trade, because "it's a scary transition". When you have the idea of my grandpa did it, my daddy did it, so I do it and that is what this state was founded on, then you are never going to advance. California was founded on gold, how many gold miners are there still in California?
@artman7780
@artman7780 4 года назад
They should get condoms and stop having 6 kids (comparable to third world nations) to stop this desperation.
@timmachin3830
@timmachin3830 3 года назад
This is Wales in the 80's with the added problem that kids have to pay for higher education and everyone pays if they get sick. Difficult times.
@kastonian69
@kastonian69 3 года назад
im going to probably be the first non coal miner out of all my family.
@000wanderlust
@000wanderlust 3 года назад
What career are you pursuing?
@codyr2733
@codyr2733 4 года назад
The truest statement about coal that has ever been stated: “ Appalachia’s aren’t in love with coal, they are in love with the American dream”! This was the most touching thing I have ever heard finally someone understands.
@codyr2733
@codyr2733 4 года назад
Let’s hope that’s not true.... even the smallest pea sized amount of hope can move mountains.
@codyr2733
@codyr2733 4 года назад
You talk of education but all I hear is ignorance and racism towards a group of individuals that came to America poor and took jobs in the mines to provide for their families the only way they could at the time... those individuals were wage slaves so are their grand children and great grand children due to a flawed and corrupt system that feeds off the weak and just keeps making the rich and elite richer.
@codyr2733
@codyr2733 4 года назад
The problem with America isn’t what people grasp at .... The media and the one percent want Americans against one another they use race and gender to divide because if we all came together and broke the chains of this wage slave system and realized everyone deserves better we would turn on them and forge a better America that literally scares the Hell out of the masters they would lose control and have to go into hiding do yourselves a favor and wake up from the sheep mentality and enlighten yourself enough to see groups of people from different races aren’t the enemy it’s this system that we keep making excuses for and acting like everything is fine when it’s not we all deserve better (all lives matter)!
@codyr2733
@codyr2733 4 года назад
People act like education is free and the student loan debt system is not flawed.. that paying for your way of life while drowning in student loans while never getting ahead as the housing market and ways of living dramatically increase are normal and healthy as the wages stay the same ..what a gilded life you must live not see the toxicity right in front of your eyes....either you live off the government and take advantage of others or your are a slave to your debt and can never make ends meet literally dying from the struggle barely enjoying a so called life as it passes.
@codyr2733
@codyr2733 4 года назад
I hope you read this ebony panther and “Wake Up” more Americans need to band together and throw racism aside so we all can make America great again doesn’t have anything to do with ole trump to want patriotism and love back in America and a better way of life.
@CaptainFantastic222
@CaptainFantastic222 4 года назад
Dying industry. These people need job training programs so that they can learn new skills
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 года назад
foy22chris22 They don’t want to evolve or better themselves by learning new skills or a new trade. You can’t force these dumbasses to advance themselves in the job market. 🤣
@neeneko
@neeneko 4 года назад
What they need is a paid migration where the whole population is moved to a place experiencing labor shortages. No amount of training is going to help these isolated communities, there just isn't enough reason for money to flow into them.
@farkasabel
@farkasabel 4 года назад
@@jayripper7272 and what you you do when programs will overtake your office job dumbass?
@farkasabel
@farkasabel 4 года назад
@@jayripper7272 www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jan/05/japanese-company-replaces-office-workers-artificial-intelligence-ai-fukoku-mutual-life-insurance
@thejoshiclesofjoshua8372
@thejoshiclesofjoshua8372 4 года назад
a "Green new deal" if you will
@TheBiostacle
@TheBiostacle 3 года назад
“That’s the dream?” “That the goal.” 8:01 Fantastic answer, the future is bright.
@EA-js1me
@EA-js1me 3 года назад
Legalize weed and make the state government grow it. Jobs, tourists, less opioids, additional tax income, less poverty!
@kaansisman6948
@kaansisman6948 3 года назад
Honestly government would never do it and if they did, knowing how they spend money it would never get to help people.
@forestpark73
@forestpark73 4 года назад
Their local govt should have taken advantage of the decades of influx of people and business and invested other industries there instead of just coal.
@kas6345
@kas6345 4 года назад
too stupid for that
@KevinHowardMusic
@KevinHowardMusic 4 года назад
KAS, it has nothing to do with how intelligent these people are. The people around here with the money to bring other industry into the area are the same ones making a profit off of the monopolization coal has. A great example would be the airport that was supposed to be built in pike county. The project was shut down by coal barons, because it could have lead to competition from other industries.
@forestpark73
@forestpark73 4 года назад
KAS thats what happens when you get the wrong people in office.
@Pocko213
@Pocko213 4 года назад
Other industries such as?
@forestpark73
@forestpark73 4 года назад
Pocko213 so the way good mayors and congressmen/women work is they manage cities according to their needs. If you’ve sat in you local town meetings or watched hearings, that’s where you will have people who rally for the expansions of education, commerce, farming, creating exports of goods with businesses who negotiate to expand into profiting towns and cities. Historically there have been opportunities for WV towns and cities to expand their realm of industry and commerce, but they seemed to believe that coal was more than sufficient and would only invite competition. That’s why WV is known only as coal country and nothing else. At this rate it will probably fade off.
@hwong1776
@hwong1776 4 года назад
This is just like Detroit and the car industry
@RIFLQ
@RIFLQ 4 года назад
Except the community understand the problem and know what need to be done
@Youngsavge-or2ro
@Youngsavge-or2ro 4 года назад
Nope Obumber bailed them out
@markg.7865
@markg.7865 4 года назад
@@Youngsavge-or2ro So what is Trump when he gives billions to farmers hurt by his stupid trade war? Maybe Mexico will pay the farmers for Trump's incompetence.
@Youngsavge-or2ro
@Youngsavge-or2ro 4 года назад
@@markg.7865 he is keeping Merica great again Why wouldnt u want your food here if u live in the USA
@bjxxx
@bjxxx 4 года назад
@@Youngsavge-or2ro if farmers want their bailouts that makes them socialists. No different than a welfare queen.
@json809
@json809 4 года назад
Greatest economy is about to face the greatest depression
@Adrian_Nel
@Adrian_Nel 4 года назад
I have said it before. Anybody who thinks that Trump has whipped the economy into shape is the kind of person who is impressed when a neighbour parks a shiny new car in the driveway.
@silly1885
@silly1885 3 года назад
Adrian Nel Welp 5 months later Trump did nothing about COVID and we went through a recession lmao
@leonesperanza3672
@leonesperanza3672 3 года назад
@@silly1885 almost the whole world is in recession.
@dadlifeadam
@dadlifeadam 2 года назад
Wow two years later and the recession has just started! Who’s to blame now?
@gunnerdohrenwend227
@gunnerdohrenwend227 4 года назад
Breaking news: the horse-and-buggy industry is dying
@playstationer7321
@playstationer7321 4 года назад
That's the attitude that cost Dems the election.
@TUBESPECIFIC1
@TUBESPECIFIC1 4 года назад
Yes it really did. The Amish don't use those so much anymore like 20 or more years ago. They pay people milk and homemade candy to drive them. Why? They were getting hit too much by cars not paying attention going too fast and then it's quicker and more practical to ride in a vehicle to pick up supplies in town such as molasses, oats, etc.
@addanametocontinue
@addanametocontinue 4 года назад
@@playstationer7321 That's debatable. What isn't debatable is that Trump made promises for coal workers and never came through. Coal workers can laugh all they want at the "other" party, but when I wake up on Monday, I'll still have a good paying job in tech: they'll still be waiting for the Orange Messiah to save them.
@myrlewulf6256
@myrlewulf6256 4 года назад
@@addanametocontinue Insensitive
@Matt-fl8uy
@Matt-fl8uy 4 года назад
@@playstationer7321 That' the *honesty* that cost the Dems those voters. Trump lied to them and said he could bring Big Coal back. Even after cutting safety regulations, the industry hasn't recovered because the major consumers like power companies are moving to natural gas and renewables.
@gamer4vr638
@gamer4vr638 4 года назад
A good alternative for these coal miners is to find jobs in silicon mining.
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 года назад
gamer4vr Nah just let natural selection take its course and kill these guys off.
@a-10wartaboo77
@a-10wartaboo77 4 года назад
I think they are all in China
@joshgraybill182
@joshgraybill182 4 года назад
Jay Ripper wtf
@DeviantDespot
@DeviantDespot 4 года назад
These people outbreed the academic types like a ratio of 10 to 1, they aren't going anywhere soon.
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 года назад
Josh Graybill you heard me pal
@tomjones6944
@tomjones6944 4 года назад
"It's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it" ~ George Carlin
@user-yq5ky9ub2b
@user-yq5ky9ub2b 4 года назад
Are you American, or even European (American taxpayers paid for wwIIs aftermath)? Do you have the computer or phone to post that message. Well you, my friend, are living the American dream.
@kimanigrey-campbell7976
@kimanigrey-campbell7976 4 года назад
@@user-yq5ky9ub2b I don't think that was the American dream, but its different each person.
@armandochavez9510
@armandochavez9510 4 года назад
4 0 Google American Dream bro
@campkira
@campkira 4 года назад
wrong era...
@Pocko213
@Pocko213 4 года назад
If you live in America you're already the richest 2 percent on the planet. Sick and tired of reading this shit from people that have heated homes, 3 good meals a day, internet access, police protection, the right to criticise the Govt, a free press, welfare and make more than $2 a day etc. Be grateful for what you have
@rg31404
@rg31404 4 года назад
6:55 "... left holding on to hope that coal jobs will *return*" Oh my gosh, how is it possible that these hard working people haven't understood 15 years ago that coal is dead.
@domcizek
@domcizek 2 года назад
Well, they did not think about the future or keep up with the times and where America is going with renewables, but their children are thinking of that and moving on
@nostalgicvibes3122
@nostalgicvibes3122 2 года назад
Because they’re too busy surviving and trying to make it
@fanstream
@fanstream 4 года назад
Isobel, Your docu-segments are brilliant: informative, entertaining and visceral - bravo!
@sabineriley379
@sabineriley379 4 года назад
“Daddy work like a mule mining pike county coal” tyler Childers
@nicke1903
@nicke1903 4 года назад
Keep your nose on the grindstone and outta the pills
@thebeardedvoice6819
@thebeardedvoice6819 4 года назад
sabine riley he fucked up his back he couldn’t work anymore...
@andypuga6048
@andypuga6048 4 года назад
The Bearded Voice he said one of these days you’ll get out of these hills
@Nimrodbodeinejr
@Nimrodbodeinejr 4 года назад
I'm from pikeville ky all we no is coal
@TemujinKhan8
@TemujinKhan8 4 года назад
As a liberal, I am rooting for these (mostly conservative) coal miners and their communities. It will take time to transition from coal, but a bigger focus on education will diversify their economies and bring new industries.
@FloridaMan786
@FloridaMan786 Год назад
We don’t need to transition from coal. The only reason the democrats are promoting that idea is cause they have huge stakes in renewable energy companies. They promote anything they can make a laws and regulations around that will benefit their investments. They know climate change is BS. It’s another way to control you and for them to make money.
@Brehvon
@Brehvon 2 года назад
I love how impartial this was delivered. Well done!
@andypotanin
@andypotanin 4 года назад
9:23 "we intend to make a business out of this.". Hell yeah, these kids are not messing around.
@fortis3686
@fortis3686 4 года назад
Ah yes. Because nothing says “Mercia” and “capitalism” like seeing dozens of men contracting and slowly die from black lung
@reedw.5477
@reedw.5477 4 года назад
Well the green energy just isn't good enough yet for it to be obtainable
@Moka66
@Moka66 4 года назад
@@reedw.5477 Only if actions are made. Denmark produced 47% of electricity from wind 2019.
@theactivecoconut6077
@theactivecoconut6077 4 года назад
Reed W. What? There are many operating solar and wind farms, hydro plants, geothermal plants, nuclear plants, natural gas plants etc... and there have been for decades. Coal is uncompetitive, dirty, unhealthy, and dangerous for miners. Appalachia needs to move on gradually from coal.
@reedw.5477
@reedw.5477 4 года назад
@@Moka66 there population is 5.6 million. That's no where near the amount of people we have..
@reedw.5477
@reedw.5477 4 года назад
@@theactivecoconut6077 yeah, and how much fields would be taken up by turbines to supply 1/100 of the US power supply?
@rickiex
@rickiex 4 года назад
as a great republican man once said, "if life sucks where you live, just sell your house and move" - ben sapiro
@Skallado
@Skallado 4 года назад
No one will buy a house in any of those towns right now
@surfhappens202
@surfhappens202 4 года назад
Wait wait this one is better and my favorite. "Just stop being poor idiot" - Ben the reeee
@rickiex
@rickiex 4 года назад
@@Skallado that's exactly the point, the stupidity behind Ben sapiro and his stupid solutions for people, and yet somehow, the right wing eats his shit up like Sunday morning with the gospel
@Ironsix6six
@Ironsix6six 4 года назад
Ben Soypiro
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 года назад
rickiex MAGA voters look at right wing leaders like if they were GODS and KINGS. They are quite pathetic. They ain’t wired right and have severe mental illness. 🤣😂
@Mico605
@Mico605 3 года назад
Listen, it sucks to lose a job, but its not the end of the world. These people who work in fossil fuel industry for generations need to get their head together. Fossil fuel was never a permanent solution for anyone and they will have to move on sooner or later.
@serpentphoenix
@serpentphoenix 3 года назад
what a stuck-up liberal mindset. No wonder they voted Trump, and will vote Trump again in 2020.
@Mico605
@Mico605 3 года назад
@@serpentphoenix Once the oil runs out, whos fault will it be? Who will they vote for then? I honestly couldn't care less who votes for who, thats not my point. My point is if they keep teaching their kids that there is nothing else to do but fossil fuel jobs then they are just digging themselves further in. Nor am I saying they should all quit their jobs now, people need to bring food on the table, I am just being realistic that in the long term for their own well being they need to look for some other source of income. Thats my only point.
@serpentphoenix
@serpentphoenix 3 года назад
@@Mico605 Oil won't run out for another 400 years. You must be living in the 1970s
@klaxxor
@klaxxor 4 года назад
RUSTY JUSTICE - best name ever!
@General_Eisenhower1945
@General_Eisenhower1945 4 года назад
Big iron has aged
@butterchuggins5409
@butterchuggins5409 4 года назад
So much winning, folks
@Adrian_Nel
@Adrian_Nel 4 года назад
Yeah,you're going to get tired of all the winning! Puhleazze
@Jarod-vg9wq
@Jarod-vg9wq 4 года назад
6:41 dudes a DOOM fan awesome, wish the slayer could deal with the mining CEOs that leave workers behind with nothing.
@smartasskickass4260
@smartasskickass4260 4 года назад
and he has 8 kids, takes a strong man to raise that many while losing your job
@Oumegi
@Oumegi 3 года назад
Former mining region in Europe that I come from took the same route from mining and heavy industry towards IT. It works, and I hope it will work for these folks as well. For anyone from a mining town that wants hope - you ought to have a lot of it. It will take some hard work, but it will bear fruit for you. We now have a supercomputer in town, and slowly start to challenge the country capital for IT workforce.
@---nobody---
@---nobody--- 3 года назад
Those kids are very intelligent and analytical. They're actually thinking about how to change things, fix them and make them better.
@wwechampion
@wwechampion 4 года назад
That boy Yang was right. It's a shame he won't be leading us through this decade as President. #yanggang
@leoszilard7542
@leoszilard7542 4 года назад
2024 bby
@hectorvega621
@hectorvega621 4 года назад
@@leoszilard7542 Dammit you beat me to it.
@kyokyoniizukyo7171
@kyokyoniizukyo7171 4 года назад
DaProdigy He would have done nothing my friend, and worse off, he would likely have made the situation worse because of isolating the black vote...
@MylesHSG
@MylesHSG 4 года назад
#HumanityFirst baby. Money, weed and robots ✌️
@stevepasquarella823
@stevepasquarella823 4 года назад
Move to hhgher ground gay boys
@JostenDooley
@JostenDooley 4 года назад
I got black lung from this video But in all seriousness Coal is not coming back to that region and will continue to get phased out.
@Youngsavge-or2ro
@Youngsavge-or2ro 4 года назад
Looks like u still have some light residue on your face
@j.palenzuela3786
@j.palenzuela3786 4 года назад
vice is on fire with the new content. Keep it coming
@isisarefucbois7627
@isisarefucbois7627 3 года назад
We should never have let politics get into coal look what’s happened to it.
@johncronin5311
@johncronin5311 2 года назад
Thats exactly what it is , what about gov chem clouds , china , russia , india burning coal ?
@RegicideKo9
@RegicideKo9 4 года назад
It's amazing how many people in the comments are just saying "just adapt!" I'll bet any amount of money you want that they wouldn't be saying the same if this was a video about black kids trapped in the ghetto. These rural white kids are in the same exact position of hopelessness except they have even less of an opportunity to get out (no 'white rural kid' scholarships). They need to adapt to the times, and these kids are obviously trying, but don't act like they just have to 'do it' like they're parents have even enough spare cash to send a kid to college. The only privilege in this world is for the rich. Poor people will always be at the bottom of the ladder of opportunity, no matter what skin color they have.
@xchopp
@xchopp 4 года назад
They have access to a 3-D printer. Their families may be poor but they are being presented with opportunities (whether 3-D printing is going to be their savior is an open question). But I agree with you: Poor people will always be at the bottom of the ladder of opportunity, no matter what skin color they have. Which of the presidential candidates do we think could change that (policies = free education and healthcare for all in the USA)? It's not a tough question.
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 года назад
Oh so now white rural folk want to go to college. I thought college was stupid and worthless. That’s what I hear from a lot of right wing propaganda and right wing politicians are always trying to defund higher education. Well well. I think they should just stay in their dying coal mines.
@kaasis85
@kaasis85 4 года назад
This is just an example of what's to come for everyone unless the current economic model is overhauled and UBI implemented. Adaption works on sensible timescales. Technology develops exponentially. In 10-20 years time it will no longer make any financial sense to become qualified in x because your job wil be at risk of becoming obsolete too soon. The secondary pressure will come from an influx of laid-off people fighting for highly-skilled jobs or in fact any jobs, which will push the wages down for everyone.
@gleenallen6386
@gleenallen6386 4 года назад
I'm black and tell the blacks in the ghetto the same. .. Immigrants come into this country with nothing, but the cloths on their back and a few bucks, but with hard work and determination and God's will, they make it in the great U.S of A.. ,
@jenniekelly571
@jenniekelly571 4 года назад
First, I want to say that change is NOT easy, for anyone. I grew up as a "white rural kid". I had a job when I was 16 at a pharmacy, not good wages. 2 years later, I became a floral designer, loved the job, shitty pay then and now. I borrowed $1k and moved to a larger city so I could get a job. A high school diploma could still get me $5.35 hr in 1986. After that I worked at a meat pckg. plant, $17K annual, then they closed the plant, and I had to move again. Then times changed, and they changed fast!! I had 2 yrs to update my skills, and I was a single Mom with NO child support. Things suck all over in every direction. I told my daughter 50K times that she had to go to college if she didn't want to live like we did. By the time she started college, I was physically disabled and couldn't help her with even a place to live. She worked as a bartender thru college, applied for grants and student loans and got both. Now, she's continuing work, and receive student loans, as she gets her Phd. Parents have to instill the moral fiber of children, and love them unconditionally, if you do, they will do the best they can. Yes, there are a few who don't, I'm not ignorant nor nieve, but most do well. I wish nothing but the best for you, your children, and your grandchildren.
@shaneckel
@shaneckel 4 года назад
The reason I was an Andrew Yang fan had nothing to do with getting a thousand dollars. It had to do with growing up in Appalachia and knowing how much his policies would have helped good hard working people in areas being hit the hardest with the changing economy.
@alfredogarbanzo2276
@alfredogarbanzo2276 4 года назад
Yo YangGang homie!!
@kcor4
@kcor4 4 года назад
"We're having a hard time. Let's take money from other people and make it harder on them." Good policy. Spread the misery.
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 года назад
It’s the leaders of West Virginia fault. For decades they have been against other industries moving to their state. They only wanted to be a coal country. Will now coal is dead and that’s all they relied on. So they will all suffer now.
@shaneckel
@shaneckel 4 года назад
@@kcor4 as a person who works in technology as a business consultant, I insure you there's enough money being made in technology advancement to help those hit the hardest. Those currently succeeding don't see this as a punishment, they see it as an opportunity to invest back into the people of their country that gave them all they had. Which in turn will profit them more, since a comfortable happy demographic are much more willing to purchase and invest.
@everettduncan7543
@everettduncan7543 4 года назад
Bernie has a more concrete plan than Yang when it comes to fixing the economy and beating back climate change: 1. Bring non coal jobs to appalachia (and non lead jobs to the lead belt) 2. Assistance for those who worked in fossil fuels 3. Modernize the electricity grid to create jobs 4. Expand high speed broadband in rural areas 5. Break up Big Ag and give farmers back their opportunities
@HylianKilljoy
@HylianKilljoy 4 года назад
This is a great piece. I hope STEM finds a way to help regions like this as coal continues to phase out. These regions need help and if they're ignored for much longer, there will be a much more serious issue that can have larger ramifications
@chrisvig123
@chrisvig123 4 года назад
At least the kids are smart and they understand the need and value of changing...smart kids😀
@kelz_b
@kelz_b 4 года назад
That First Lady sounds like stinky off of “Hey Arnold”
@chico305SIGMA
@chico305SIGMA 4 года назад
But she is Definitely a Trophy Wife.
@rs6109
@rs6109 4 года назад
@@chico305SIGMA lol
@chico305SIGMA
@chico305SIGMA 4 года назад
@@rs6109 The First Lady in American History to have Breast Implants and Nude pictures on the Internet. Lol I'm in Love with Her. Lol
@apotheosis2543
@apotheosis2543 4 года назад
Coal isn't coming back, these people are being lied to and used. I feel kinda bad, but at the same time, they need to stop holding on to the past.
@wvmann9320
@wvmann9320 4 года назад
@jacob f they dont realise there is a coal to liquid fuels plant currently being built, coal to carbon fiber plant proposed and also right now theres grants for coal to be processed for rare earth minerals, peoples minds are narrow and dont understand the logistics and needs of the modern world.
@dcannek
@dcannek 3 года назад
Wow. Those kids are great. The fact that their invention was a business idea that helps others really warmed my heart.
@trippingtonproductionsco.7641
@trippingtonproductionsco.7641 4 года назад
Should have voted Andrew Yang he was going to help us with automation
@TUBESPECIFIC1
@TUBESPECIFIC1 4 года назад
He's a smart guy with some really good ideas, but a poor public speaker. He had to drop out for he didn't appeal to the mainstream voters. The Yang Gang is a thang of the past. Do you thank the Yang Gang are feeling the bern?
@saltymonke3682
@saltymonke3682 4 года назад
@@TUBESPECIFIC1 no
@TUBESPECIFIC1
@TUBESPECIFIC1 4 года назад
@@saltymonke3682 So which direction would most of the Yang Gang gone? Who do they mostly support now?
@saltymonke3682
@saltymonke3682 4 года назад
@@TUBESPECIFIC1 Biden
@TUBESPECIFIC1
@TUBESPECIFIC1 4 года назад
@@saltymonke3682 Why do they support Biden over Sanders? Thanks in advance.
@secondaccount142
@secondaccount142 4 года назад
All the employees at Vice News are gonna get coal for Christmas next year.
@doujinflip
@doujinflip 4 года назад
If the mines are still open by then
@secondaccount142
@secondaccount142 4 года назад
@@doujinflip unless they invent coal powered sex robots I'm pretty sure it's over for coal
@diskographi
@diskographi 4 года назад
Do you remember ever going on a field trip to a ghost town back when you were in grade school? Back in the day when the industry left that town, so did the people.
@chloe3670
@chloe3670 2 года назад
I come from a very long line of coal miners in West Virginia. My family has been mining coal for at least 200 years, and the downfall of the coal industry hit my family very hard. I also come from a long line of Irish and Italian immigrants, which happen to be a large demographic of coal miners in the Appalachian region. I have family members who are still currently in the coal mines, or what is left of them, but they constantly have to worry about when they are going to be laid off. My family didn’t have to worry much about money until the fall of coal mining, and now they all live under or near the poverty line. My grandfathers, great grandfathers, 2nd great grandfathers, and so on were all miners. I wholeheartedly agree that we need to advance technologically and start moving towards clean energy, but it is going to hurt this region even more than it is now once coal mining becomes completely eradicated. We are truly at a standstill. We have no money to put towards drastic technological/industrial changes because all of the money we had left when coal mining left. West Virginia, up until recently, was a democratic voting state and it’s all because we were able to keep our coal. Now, our state constantly gets ridiculed for voting strictly republican, but republicans are the only people who have showed interest or promised to keep the coal industry running! You can’t blame any of them. We are nothing without coal. Unless some miraculous funding to introduce new tech and industry into the region appears, Appalachians are going to try and keep coal for as long as possible so that our families don’t suffer further than they already are. It is so sad.
@isaacwojo3273
@isaacwojo3273 2 года назад
When people say “just introduce technology and education” it comes off as out of touch. They act like a 45 year old man with 3 kids can just snap his fingers and become a tech bro. I can kinda understand where your coming from because The same thing happened in my area with the steel industry. My county used to be a Democrat stronghold but voted for trump by double digits. While he was president he was able reopen the steel mill. It was the first good thing to happen to this area in a long time. Democrats abandoned this area and trump was able to save it.
@nilspetterhellvik6827
@nilspetterhellvik6827 3 года назад
When the industrial revolution came. 70% of farmers in Europe lost their jobs. Sad but future is allwas hard
@mojojojoplus2
@mojojojoplus2 4 года назад
11:14 Trump cutting programs to help Appalachia. Yup.
@montiro8999
@montiro8999 4 года назад
they will still vote for him 100%
@mojojojoplus2
@mojojojoplus2 4 года назад
@@montiro8999 It honestly depends, these are not dumb folk. If the Democratic candidate can really make the case that they will fight for programs that mean a better future for their kids and their communities, that candidate has a real chance of reaching these people. Make the case that these places can have a future beyond coal, that the community that was built by coal is worth saving for a future after it. It wouldn't hurt to also point out that Trump would like to cut those same programs.
@floridaarmyvet3613
@floridaarmyvet3613 4 года назад
@@mojojojoplus2 The democratic Congress is pushing all these changes against the programs. The president had to give things up to get the military funding. Please start reading the crap coming out of Congress the bills are loaded with pork on purpose
@mojojojoplus2
@mojojojoplus2 4 года назад
@@floridaarmyvet3613 The cuts were in the president's proposed budget, as the video states. That is independent of Congress, it is a statement of the president's priorities, which Congress may or may not follow. President Trump indicated in that budget that these programs trying to bring new skills to Appalachia are not part of his priorities.
@ik-ub3dj
@ik-ub3dj 4 года назад
mojojojoplus2 they live on Fox News man. You could show trump laughing saying that coal is dead and they’d still believe that he wants to help
@brian-beeler
@brian-beeler 4 года назад
While I'm all for teaching coal miners to code the problem is the tech sector has a huge problem with age discrimination. The median employee age at Apple and Amazon is 31, 30 at Google and 28 at Facebook. Out of the top 20 tech employers HP comes in at the highest at 39.¹ A few of these men and women might turn out to be excellent code jockeys but in the end it's doubtful with their untraditional past and higher age will ever get a chance at meaningful employment as a programmer. I don't know what the answer is but repeating the mantra "teach everyone to code" as the solution to all of our employment problems isn't it. It should be noted that finding a coding gig is getting harder with more and more colleges pushing more CS degrees than we need and offshore shops. While you might pay a programmer here in the States $40 to $60 per hour I can find a programmer in Viet Nam, Malaysia or the Philippines for about $10 per hour. A cross platform app that would cost $200k to develop in the States will cost you ~$50k in many places in Asia. Will it be just as good? No but for most companies cost trumps quality. 1. businessinsider.com/median-tech-employee-age-chart-2017-8
@Habadacus405
@Habadacus405 4 года назад
Brian Beeler God damn. You hit the nail on the head.
@Habadacus405
@Habadacus405 4 года назад
Brian Beeler I completely agree with your statement.
@JKenpachu
@JKenpachu 4 года назад
Best response I’ve seen on this video.
@mellamojeff458
@mellamojeff458 Год назад
2023 has arrived and the numbers are just getting even worse Most companies now just use cheap labor from India or china now, but there are companies that still use labor in the us for coding
@bigo3248
@bigo3248 3 года назад
That's life many times I thought of Quitting but my heart wouldn't buy it
@nhoj4539
@nhoj4539 4 года назад
The miners were con, by the con-man
@jamestwerdin1189
@jamestwerdin1189 4 года назад
Those high school boys and their plan to create a business together. Well articulated. I wish them the best.
@honeyv6020
@honeyv6020 4 года назад
7:26 so truthfully chilling...
@beijingbball1
@beijingbball1 4 года назад
This is great and relevant journalism! Great job Vice!
@m.angulo1938
@m.angulo1938 4 года назад
Great reporting. Puts things much more into perpective.
@travisbarrett7329
@travisbarrett7329 4 года назад
My mother's family is from Hazard Kentucky. Still have family living there today
@kkkk-wg6je
@kkkk-wg6je 4 года назад
At least the kids get it. I bet they wish their parents would “wake up”
@jeffreychou3918
@jeffreychou3918 4 года назад
If their parents were awake, at least 6 of them wouldn't exist.
@jeffreychou3918
@jeffreychou3918 4 года назад
Michael Stovall Why would you even have 8 kids if you can't support them?
@rodniestruiken1256
@rodniestruiken1256 3 года назад
The people there are not aware of there own product . Whether there's a market for it ..or not. Especially an industry like that. Even the oil industry is not going to stay the same. There are already other options. That's the way of live. Things change you have to change whit it. But this community never have and dont want to. They want to keep things the same. That's not possible.
@sisenor4091
@sisenor4091 4 года назад
Why? Because he lied to them. Actually, he’s a great politician.
@silly1885
@silly1885 3 года назад
Lmao he didn’t handle covid well. In fact he put us in a recession, he is horrible for blue collar workers.
@hawkproductions3853
@hawkproductions3853 3 года назад
@@silly1885 your ignorance of facts is showing
@WILD4X4D
@WILD4X4D 4 года назад
Hello West Virginia coal miner Let me thank you for your time You work a 40 hour week for a livin' Just to send it on down the line. Alabama
@Youngsavge-or2ro
@Youngsavge-or2ro 4 года назад
Thanks but sad part is hours were 50-60 a week
@prymezz5375
@prymezz5375 3 года назад
🙏🙏 I appreciate the kind words. My brother/guardian works 70 hour weeks
@jayripper7272
@jayripper7272 4 года назад
The saddest part and it’s kinda of funny is these guys still in denial they got scammed by a Billionaire scam artist from New York. 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣
@bengarcia6379
@bengarcia6379 4 года назад
Clean coal 🤣🤣 maybe he can have them clean rocks on the ocean like on the Simpsons 🤣🤣🤣
@imAdolff
@imAdolff 4 года назад
That's an act of a thug
@m.w.6526
@m.w.6526 4 года назад
Not funny at all. This is a desperate region. Appalachia is deeply impoverished.
@nmk8475
@nmk8475 4 года назад
West Virginia used to be one of the most reliably Democrat states in the country, with a strong organized labor presence. It wasn't that Trump scammed them, the Democrats scammed them by abandoning them and leaving the people to die of heroin and meth in rundown towns with no opportunity except the coal mines.
@tiffbeevachou108
@tiffbeevachou108 4 года назад
@@computercrazies maybe you are 🤷. My family makes enough to provide for our family because we didn't choose jobs in dying fields and we got an education.
@salutations5749
@salutations5749 4 года назад
When i see older folks struggling, talking about the hope of coal returning and the necessity of it, im saddened. Idk what id do if i were there, but the writing is on the wall. A lot of folks went North from Pike County back in the day. I know someone whose Mom's Family came into Ohio 60 years ago. Dwight Yoakam has a song about it called "Readin',Writin', and Route 23". JD Vance's book "Hillbilly Elegy" speaks about it. I know many others whose Grandparents came from WV coal country also. As the manufacturing sector has died, a lot of Blue collar jobs are going away. These folks came up from KY and WV to work in supply chain industries for Auto industry. The fallout from Detroit rippled into other rust belts cities across the midwest. Coal towns are no different.
@Broken_dish
@Broken_dish 4 года назад
they need to move on coal is bad for environment we don't wanna end up like china with air quality they need to learn to adapt like many other Americans the fact there fighting so hard is sad..also that guy prob wouldn't be struggling so much if he didn't have 8 fuckin kids lol
@dajon661
@dajon661 4 года назад
This will be detrimental to Santa’s supply chain!
@ijulesy
@ijulesy 4 года назад
Swear i've seen this before on vice, is this a reupload?
@amrizzato
@amrizzato 4 года назад
The exact same thing happened here in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia in the mid to late '90s. The CBC even interviewed us about the future and we said technology was the way. That was 21 years ago. Amazing how history repeats itself.
@gleenallen6386
@gleenallen6386 4 года назад
The difference is that, you guys prob didn't have such an arrogance sense of entitlement like this people do.
@groundcontrol-888
@groundcontrol-888 4 месяца назад
It's a glitch in the Matrix Dude. Groundhog Decade.
@0ut1and3r
@0ut1and3r 4 года назад
why would you want this job! i appreciate the hard work they do and have done but i wouldnt want this for anybody!
@reedw.5477
@reedw.5477 4 года назад
Because they don't live in a major city with plenty of job opportunity
@Ryan-wx8of
@Ryan-wx8of 4 года назад
Because food costs money.
@0ut1and3r
@0ut1and3r 4 года назад
@A'chik chamdamberangna maths it WAS essential. it's very dirty and unhealthy for the miners. not to mention that mining in general causes environmental degradation. it's obsolete and that's a good thing. these people have to adapt and find a way to move forward. it's going to be hard to let go of their identity and livelihoods but they have to if they want to survive. the world is not going to revert for anybody.
@seahorsemafia
@seahorsemafia 3 года назад
Reading an awesome book called When Miners March by Bill Blizzard about the bloody struggle to unionize the WV coal fields at the turn of the 20th century. One thing that is abundantly clear is since the beginning of WV's long history with coal, the Operator Companies steadily and consistently extracted WV's natural wealth away from its working citizens. Even after the miners unionized and started making better wages, that is only a FRACTION of the wealth that the companies made. Even to present day. The corporate exacs aren't taking any cuts during downsizing be sure of that. Sound familiar? My heart aches for these people. My father in law was a coal miner before he got into steel. They all came from WV.
@texxstalker
@texxstalker 4 года назад
6:35 Working in a mine and playing Doom at home - good outcomes
@jaybudzygaming
@jaybudzygaming 4 года назад
This is why we needed Yang in office
@Habadacus405
@Habadacus405 4 года назад
Jeff Ramzy unfortunately, A lot of people just saw him as a huge socialist who wanted to just give money to people who didn’t deserve it. 😔 It was obvious he wasn’t going to win when they gave him less and less time at the debates. Sad.
@m.w.6526
@m.w.6526 4 года назад
Yeah bro free money would have solved everything hahahah
@thor1511
@thor1511 4 года назад
Uneducated hicks would never vote for an Asian
@joel1228
@joel1228 4 года назад
@Sorrious Sad He was proposing giving a $1000 to every american...his policy never mentioned your tax money. What he actually proposed was to instate a new type of sales tax on things you purchase - please educate yourself if you're going to support someone for POTUS, or else YOU'RE the one one whom looks "stupid". LOL
@MrEtherShot
@MrEtherShot 4 года назад
Jeff Ramzy he’s working for cnn now. Sorry $ellout
@jackofclubz
@jackofclubz 4 года назад
Bernie has to potential to do well here.
@natzooo895
@natzooo895 4 года назад
nah we don't need 85 socialism lad who had heart attack
@matthewxd5063
@matthewxd5063 4 года назад
Stephan Bruno yeah the potential to destroy US with Socialism he just informs he is a socialist an he hasn’t even experienced it. And he says he wants Socialism in the US. By the way where will he find the money for free college? The answer to that which I hope you know it’s gonna be coming from our taxes... including yours!
@jimsigs2108
@jimsigs2108 4 года назад
Better dead than red
@matthewxd5063
@matthewxd5063 4 года назад
Stephan Bruno by the way he wants to spend at least 35 trillion dollars on using save energy I’m sure you heard him say that. Do you know we don’t even have 35 trillion dollars? Cause that’s how much he said it will cost. By the way let’s not for get he won’t give you that so called free health care that was only for illegal immigrants who aren’t born in the US.
@brandon9172
@brandon9172 4 года назад
@@matthewxd5063 Sources? Pretty sure he never said that
@fquint6468
@fquint6468 4 года назад
Several reasons give or take any combination for different people * Lack of education * Racism (for some, not all especially in the form of scapegoating minorities, claiming they are taking jobs) *And reluctance to embracing change( in the form of new industries, new lessons, new tech etc.) These people don’t understand that coal is not as lucrative as it once was, and they don’t want to change. They will continue to suffer if they want to embrace progress. I’m glad they are offering the kids the chance to learn new tech. Higher education is necessary for the future.
@MrStaybrown
@MrStaybrown 3 года назад
I work in a doomed coal mine, I know its dead. The company has even said they're unsure how long they will operate and when they will do layoffs. Then a Trump Supporter said...but trump said he was going to save us! It was heartbreaking to think they believed trump. These miners believed him, and still believe trump is going hail mary save the coal industry.
@topside2
@topside2 4 года назад
Reminds me of a South Park episode “HEY DARYL. HEY DARYL. Truck driving and coal mining are not exactly jobs of the future. Now add add torque wrench and blinds to my F^CKING shopping list.” - Randy Marsh No joke, I pray these people find work ASAP. I know what it feels like to need a job and not have one.
@dheerajshah
@dheerajshah 4 года назад
Get Andrew Yang.
@nicholashernandez4367
@nicholashernandez4367 3 года назад
It's nice seeing them interview the kids. I always see videos like these only focusing on bringing back coal and nothing about how to move on from coal. I hope they're able to create new jobs in appalachia that bring back prosperity to the region.
@mattgaming8717
@mattgaming8717 4 года назад
8:05 kids got the idea. Conversion in making power there or tech. Good.
@Summrise
@Summrise 4 года назад
10:08 "Rusty Justice", what a name. Legendary.
@MrRadioRiot
@MrRadioRiot 4 года назад
I would argue that the American dream isn’t being taken away its just being updated. Industry shifts are very quick but stubborn patriotism is what keeps people in a bubble of denial in this current climate, the truth is in reality.
@BAGELMENSK
@BAGELMENSK 4 года назад
What do towns built around coal mines do? Perish? Dissolve? Unless another industry swoops in to replace *COAL,* these people will continue to suffer.
@HeavyProfessor
@HeavyProfessor 3 года назад
"How easy is it to teach a coal miner how to code?"
@Pocko213
@Pocko213 4 года назад
Coal mining communities in UK: Tories took the jobs Coal mining communities US: Democrats took the jobs
@silly1885
@silly1885 3 года назад
Democrats didn’t take anything technological advancement did. Coal isn’t profitable and no ones going to invest in a dying industry.
@slaylahdorsey4393
@slaylahdorsey4393 4 года назад
Gil Scott heron was taken for granted
@SiliconEngineer
@SiliconEngineer 4 года назад
This is journalism at its best, Thank you Vice news! I’m also Relieved to see Isobel back in America 🥵. I constantly worry about her.
@cammaynard8462
@cammaynard8462 4 года назад
That’s why me and my family left eastern Kentucky my dad got laid off and now we reside in northern you don’t understand how it’s changed my family so much...
@thomasbarlow4223
@thomasbarlow4223 4 года назад
5:51 what a cool shopping cart! Damn coal you be flexin
@michaelayeni177
@michaelayeni177 4 года назад
We need a third party
@JL_Lux
@JL_Lux 4 года назад
Because of jobs... why are we still examining this?
@crackhead8670
@crackhead8670 4 года назад
Well they keep losing jobs to tech.
@MakerInMotion
@MakerInMotion 4 года назад
@@crackhead8670 It will be tech's turn to lose jobs before long.
@DavidFernandez-sc5ws
@DavidFernandez-sc5ws 4 года назад
Woah woah. You’re telling me. A politician promised something. But then didn’t do anything at all? You don’t say....
@cletusspucklerstablejeaniu1059
@cletusspucklerstablejeaniu1059 3 года назад
But to be fair, it was Trump and he promised Mexico would pay for it.
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