Why Cobblemon Will Ruin Pixelmon 

Hope you all enjoy this video🙌 Had a few audio issues, hope it's not too noticeable! EDIT: I made a mistake, I said only generation 1 Pokemon are available, I was wrong, Generation 2 was recently added, amongst other generations, I didn't notice, sorry! If I made anymore mistakes, please tell me, I'm not a Pokemon genius😂 Second EDIT: For those accusing me, this is not a sponsored video. If it was, I would say. I'm allowed to like something and be positive about it.

I gotta say, going from high poly to low poly makes it feel more like vanilla than an actual mod. A new player may never tell! Like your brief overview.

As an OG dev on Pixelmon, it's so neat to see how expressive and detailed the voxel models can be these days, we were so limited in our ability to scale and texture back then. This was our dream when everything first started out, fun times. Blastoise pre smooth models was the best model I'd ever made and I'm still proud of it today.

As someone who has been a fan of Pixelmon since like 2013 or 14, as well as someone who's donated money to the mod, I gotta say Cobblemon looks like what Pixelmon was originally trying to be and I'm all for it.

The problem with Pixelmon, when I first played it, is that the models are way too sharp and detailed for Minecraft. The main advantage of Cobblemon, at least for me, is that the models still look great while retaining that blocky feel. Sure, it may not have procedurally generated towns, pokemon centers, or NPCs yet, but it still has awhile to go.

The fact they have placeholder models literally be substitute is both hilarious and promising considering 1. That means they're working on more pokemon, and 2. they can just reuse the model for the move itself whenever they get to battle animations/effects!

I like how Cobblemon doesn't remove vanilla mobs entirely too. I saw some sheep in the background. Pixelmon struggles with getting things like mob drops and stuff and is entirely dependant on certain pokemon spawning in and your ability to defeat them in battle.

The placeholder model for pokemon being a substitute doll is an incredibly cute detail

On another video showcasing Cobblemon, a user named Holmes commented a list of changes they'd like to see, ALL of which have been confirmed by the art director of Cobblemon in a reply to that comment. Here's what's been confirmed: 1) Randomly generated structures like gyms and stores with healing stations 2) Evolution animations 3) Battle music, battle animations, real-time battles (aka wild Pokemon will either run or attack depending on the day cycle) 4) All Pokemon will eventually be added (including legendaries) 5) Some Pokemon will be rideable 6) Breedable Pokemon and holdable Pokemon eggs 7) Pokedex 8) Picnics with your Pokemon! :) 9) Hostile NPCs like Team Rocket or Team Plasma that will try to steal your Pokemon I found Holmes' comment on a video by SilverLuck if anyone wants to see more comments made by the devs.

I think that the biggest thing Cobblemon had over Pixelmon is that it had Pixelmon’s mistakes to build off of. I’m pretty sure that some of Pixelmons coders are also working on Cobblemon. So they are now aware of what really needs to be done to make the mod really successful. Edit: man I never thought watching L8Games would somehow get me 100 likes an a comment lol

i’m hoping one day we get to a point where we don’t even need to compare pixelmon and cobblemon. i hear a lot of folks describe cobblemon as “a better version of pixelmon”. while i’m glad everyone loves this mod, i hope it can eventually blossom and grow into its own thing. i know pixelmon has been out for like a decade, but imagine the discussion we could have with cobblemon without the shadow of pixelmon looming over.

My biggest gripe with Pixelmon is just how much of a pain it is to just play it with friends. I don't mean setting it up, that's relatively simple. But just the amount of work that's necessary to create simple stuff like Pokeballs. You need a lid and a base and a button and then the lids and the bases require different kinds of metals and apricorns and they need to be put on an anvil or pressed and don't get me started on the other machinery and it's just.... dude, I want to play a Pokemon in Minecraft, not Minecraft but MORE tedious with some Pokemon that happen to run around.

2:55 "Only generation 1 Pokémon can spawn in your world" Immediately shows Stantler

There is feature that worth to be mention. If you experienced with blockbench modeling and datapack, you could add your own fakemon( Pokemon that designed by fans ) to the mod as well. They even have official website wiki for that.

as someone who has worked previously on a pixelmon server, im extremely glad another mod is finally taking its place. Pixelmon was so buggy and unstable that it made doing anything with it extremely frustrating, especially on the scale of a large server that gets around 100 players during the day. Organizing tournaments where every other battle had to be restarted because of the game bugging made me want to rip my hairs out. I really hope cobblemon takes over

4:20 imagine being in the pokemon world walking outside and seeing someone violantly murdering a pokemon with a sword

I do like that you can actually ATTACK the cobblemon, hope the same comes true for trainers who appear in your base. Also fingers crossed they will allow them to do damage on other mobs. Imagine using them to kill a zombie or something, with the chance to get pokerus or poison from them as a result. :) -Edit- Seems like I was right after looking at the reddit where one of the devs posted: "We plan on allowing Pokémon to be able to fight vanilla mobs alongside the player, hopefully with the ability to command them to use moves on mobs. It's a system that will take a fair bit of development time though, so we haven't gotten to it yet. It's likely something we'll start on sometime within the next few updates. " Good, needs more realism tbh. Plus then you can add cobblemon with other mods tech, magic, etc. Imagine using them to fight the wither, or Gaia Guardian xP

The main thing I like about Cobblemon is how it uses Pokemon Showdown's battle code. Pixelmon has suffered from a number of battle bugs coupled with months between updates with no hotfixes. Because Showdown is for competitive battles, it's much more polished, and better yet- pre-made.

I honestly cannot wait for Cobblemon to continue updating, some Pokemon when you go to sleep in a bed will act like tamed cats and will walk into the bed and fall asleep on top of you which is especially adorable with Piplup because it just hunkers down like penguins do xD

The mod is also incredibly friendly for other modders, as you can add you own pokemon into it with just a resourcepack add-on in most cases. Most Technic modpacks with cobblemon usually do have all the pokemon already because modders were quick to add them in. Also pasture blocks are coming out soon! As well as growing berries, crafting potions, setting nicknames, and growing plenty of the medicinal items you could buy from stores in the original games!

I remember the early days of Pixelmon where they tried to go for this look, voxel based models instead of the higher poly models they use now... considering how many people play with shaders, I kind of wish they kept voxel models as an option... shading on higher poly models is a fair bit more intensive and can make or break the experience. I also always found the implementation of high poly models a bit jarring, it's minecraft, mobs should look like they belong in the game...

I really love the more Minecraft-y design of Cobblemon, it makes it feel like an expansion to Minecraft and not a completely separate game! I actually made a Cobblemon video a week or so ago and I had a lot of fun looking at the designs and seeing how you can use certain Pokemon as survival tools, like Pidgey giving feather falling when on your shoulder.

I am very excited for the future of Cobblemon! It currently has a ton of potential.

I really like this mod and what they're doing. One of the big reasons I haven't jumped back into pixlemon in years even though its very nostalgic for me is that I find the game freak round models off-putting inside of minecraft. When I've thought about what mods I'd want to make myself before, a pokemon mod with custom minecraft-like models has been one of the main ones I've considered so I'm glad other people more skilled than me are doing that.

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This is the first time I have ever looked at cobblemon and as someone who's been using Pixelmon for YEARS I could not agree more, Cobblemon just looks sooo much better

One thing I hope they do is make it possible to have pokemon interact with the world a little more, eg have a bisharp chop down trees for you, or have a Wooloo/Tauros/Miltank eat grass like sheep do, or have The End Battle be against Arceus or Mewtwo or make all the legendary/mythical pokemon have special structures of somesort

I like this they took a bunch of elements from PLA like changing your moves on the fly chosing if you pokemon evolve and moving in battel also having your pokemon on your shoulder is a small thing that I love

As of right now, I'd say the two mods are pretty equal for me, but Cobblemon has a TON of potential to completely surpass Pixelmon. Just a bit more polish here and there. Of course, that's ignoring the fact that they seemingly intentionally left in the ability for actual Minecraft mobs to spawn, which gives me a *ton* of ideas for what could be done with Cobblemon. Maybe you could be be able to fight them with your Pokémon just like you can fight the Pokémon directly, for example. Something like that would definitely make Cobblemon better for me in an instant since it would better tie the mechanics of Minecraft and Pokémon together. Long story short: I'm excited to see where this mod goes. :)

It's so cute that the placeholder model for summoned pokemon is the pokedoll!

Are we not gonna talk about the fact that TCNick3 is in the Thumbnail and Video?

As a friend of the devs for pixelmon, there's a ton of beef between these two, but honestly I avoid that stuff, cause personally I like cobblemon. It's charming and in the current game patch meaning I can actually go to the deepdark, only thing I'm sad about is my main team isn't in cobblemon yet but I am patient and am happy with what we get in each patch.

Honourable mention: Pokecube. Similar aesthetic and available on modern versions of Minecraft, but nowhere near as quality and well thought out as this mod! Looking forward to seeing it grow into a true Minecraft Pokemon experience - it's already leagues ahead of its predecessors!

Another great video! Wasn't expecting this direction when I saw the community post, but it's still entertaining. Also, can't wait for the Cobblemon series (which was what I first thought the community post was hinting at).

How did you set up your Cobblemon? I tried downloading a couple different packs in curseforge because I'm completely clueless when it comes to setting up mods any other way, but it feels kind of different. Also, how did you get shaders to work with it? I don't have the option to use my OptiFine versions of minecraft alongside the mod.

2:50 "only generation 1 pokemon will spawn" Immediately cuts to Stantler and Bergmite

You mentioned the whole thing about being able to spawn any pokemon and it'll have its stats and moves just no model. From my understanding this is because the battle sides of pokemon in this mod use the pokemon showdown api, which means the devs dont have to put as much time into the battles, this also allows people in the community to make resource packs adding in models for pokemon pretty easily and a few people are already dedicated to adding some pokemon themselves.

Some of the issues you mentioned about pixelmon simply come from its age as it predates pokemon itself having some of these features.

could you do a series ? I've been into playing pixelmon for a while and would love to see what else this new mod has to offer.

Cobblemon is EXTREMELY lacking in content. After a year, I see basically no difference from how it was in the video to how it was when I tried it a month ago. The hot swapping of abilities (which can be used to refresh PP), lack of any sort of npcs or structures, lack of pokemon, overly simple crafting recipes for balls. It just makes it feel like missed potential. Pixelmon is far from perfect though. I don't exactly want to play that right now either. The fact that you need additional mods for so much stuff in Cobblemon is ridiculous

I hope that they will get all the pokemon in this AND eventually do Mega Evolutions/the other things. I loved Mega Evolution. Also, I can't wait to see all the servers that will be up and running for this mod.

not only do the pokeballs disappear they also tend go in the ground or just straight up not appear, making very fun to not be able to see if you caught the pokemon or not

i hope they add lots of fun ways to get legendaries like having to make your way through a volcano to awaken groudon or something it would just be way more fun than finding them in the wild like pixlemon

If the mod makers of cobblemon are more community related than the pixelmon ones it would be nice. Upon asking the pixelmon ones stuff about their mod they can get lets say rejecting.

We have to see more Cobblemon from you!

I want them to make it so that your pokemon out of the pokeball can attack monsters and help you in the game in general I think that be a cool addition to them and make them feel also apart of the game

Honestly I absolutely love how Cobblemon works a lot like Arceus, I love how tha thame works so much and its nice to have somethong else similar

I do prefer Cobblemon's general gameplay, models, and animations, but in its current state, I think I still prefer Pixelmon My biggest problem is that Cobblemon have no sounds, so it's a bit too easy for me to forget they're actually there. Another thing that's kind of a bummer for me is that when I punch a Pokémon, they don't run away or fight back which kinda breaks my immersion These will probably be changed in the future and I will definitely use Cobblemon when it does, but for now I'll stick with Pixelmon

4:51 Me deciding to place a Rhyperior on my shoulder

subscribed purely because you said you'll be making a cobblemon series, it looks super promising, and i'm itching to play it lol

I also love the fact that making custom mons is pretty straightforward

Another pokemon Minecraft mod that is never talked about is Pokecube, idk if it's still updated but to me it was the greatest pokemon mod, the models were much more fitted for Minecraft like Cobblemon and also the battles are in real time meaning you can do anything while your pokemon is battling and still chose their moves and yes, the wild pokemon can even attack you directly if you don't reply with a pokemon of your own or kill them yourself. I hope this mode is still alive

I can't wait for the future of this mod! Being able to just straight up fight Pokemon, or have to run away if you encounter a particularly mean, high-level mon in the wild if your party is too weak, even just the immersion of shearing Wooloo and having Pokemon ride around on your shoulders, it feels so fresh!

What shaders are you using

its so cute to see that the place holder model for the pokemon that arent in the game yet is a substitute doll

Great Video, only addition i would add is how simple it is to add content yourself and how there is actually quite a few community datapacks and mods that already work with it despite Cobblemon beeing so new! :)

Wow, I am actually thinking about playing cobblemon! I am not a forge guy, and I really like my fabric mods so this seems like a thing I could try. Can't wait to see the playthrough!

Please tell me what shades you use

great video. what shaders do you use?

I love the model style and animations this mod brings, but if you're able to attack pokemon yourself, hopefully they add the ability for them to retaliate! A more hardcore legends arceus experience would be pretty sweet.

Well this aged like spoiled milk😅

What music is being played from the record player?

hey can someone lmk, is there shinies? i LOVE shinies and shiny hunting so id love to know before starting :) also is there group servers for this? thats one of the main draws for me and pixelmon. if theyre not in, if its known if its going to be added im very curious

i do think players will still play pixelmon for a long time, just because of the fact that updating cobblemon and adding all the gyms, mega evolutions, legendary structures, etc... will take an absurd amount of time. And for now pixelmon is clearly better than cobblemon because of this, in cobblemon you don't even have gyms for now xD. But yes if they add all of this, it would be clear that if pixelmon doesn't add more new things, it will be overlooked.

The Minecraft-æsthetic voxel models are the main selling point, but I’m glad to know there are other aspects of Cobblemon serperiority.

And then it was never heard from again…

I have wanted a pixelmon pokecube fusion for so long. Looks like we are finally getting it. Unfortunately it seems progress is extremely slow so who knows when it will be in a state worth comparing to the other mods. Looks promising.

Cobblemon has such a nice style to the pokemons, I much rather having them as blocky entities too, pixelmon feels off

I think they both have their place, and the existence of one doesn't "ruin" the other. Sure, people can have their opinions on which is better or worse, but that doesn't mean there's not room for both. I love Pixelmon, and I'm very excited to try Cobblemon, and I think I could enjoy either one depending on my mood

You can shear wooloo and mareep in reforged, as well as milk miltanks

what shaders are you using in this video??

Wow, this mod has CRAZY potential. It already feels a lot better than pixelmon in a number of ways despite the unbelievable amount of features pixelmon has. Looking forward to seeing how this mod develops

I really hope this mod will take off. It already looks amazing, and I’m super excited to try it out myself!

5:14 In Pixelmon, the healing machine requieres a DIAMOND, cannot be obtained as item when mined and unaffected by Silk Touch, but why?

you said something about the send out animation in pixelmon but cobblemon has no evolution animation?

i might try this! pixelmon is possibly my favourite mod ever, i used to play it all the time years ago before the original was deleted

Again, my biggest issue with Pixelmon was their gyms. In the Pokemon games they're to test your current abilities of growing Pokemon, but they treated them like after-game battle arenas. Every gym Pokemon was the same level as your highest level Pokemon in your group....which was absurd. It basically punished your for upping your Pokemon in levels. If they wanted to do that with the elite 4....fine. But not for the training gyms! That turned me off completely and I stopped playing. Maybe there are those that want the gyms harder....then they should atleast have that as a config option then, not mandated. Hopefully Cobblemon will learn from that when they get to making their gyms. I also heard they're not going to have the elaborate gyms like Pixelmon but match with the villages better. I think that's a good idea. The elaborate gyms not only stood out like a sore thumb, but made it very difficult to even reach the trainers you had to battle, which was odd. I know Pokemon games are getting into doing silly stuff before you can even battle the trainers/gym leaders. If Pixelmon are trying to do something comparable, I think that's a bad idea. I don't even like that in the Pokemon game. Just battle the gym, and move on! Cobblemon definitely seem to be trying to do things smarter, and I'm all for that!

what graphics mod do you use? it looks so clean

The placeholder model being a substitute doll is such a cute detail

For anybody interested for the Pokemon who currently only have substitute models I have seen servers that replace them with 2d pixel models and have given them world generation based on their typing. This means if your favourite Pokemon isn’t included you could still get them in a less interactive 2d form for the time being till future updates. Alot of the 3d sprites are community made so its really worth shouting out the community there and feel free to join and give them a hand. Its awesome to see their discord at work. (Just to clarify I’m not connected with the cobblemon creators/developers just a big fan of this mod they’re making and think they deserve some praise)

Cobblemon will only be superior when it lets you wear the heavy-duty boots

It’d be really cool if they could add mega evolution eventually, it was my favorite mechanic and I’m sad that it isn’t around anymore in the Pokémon games

What’s the song at the start of the video?

this is amazing, i have disliked pixelmon because of how out of place the pokemon models look with the game for a long time, and the quality of the other features is amazing aswell

personally, the lack of some of my favorite pokemon has made me discover new ones that i really like, such as galvantula and golurk

I do hope that they have the ability to use the flying types to fly and have different sizes of pokemon like pixelmon, gives a feel of uniqueness

hi, can you do tutorial how to download cobblemon and how to put the mod in the mc?

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Pixelmon is still a thing?

Yea i agree and all but was it necessary to have shaders off for one and shaders on for the other? that's kinda low ngl

Is cobble Mon a solo person world or is it co op with a big server where ppl can trade

Ironically, extremely old versions of pixelmon (2.3 or so) had squarer, more Minecraft-looking models. As the versions went on, they smoothened all of them out.

The only scary thing about this mod is if it will live up to the customization of Pixelmon. I always enjoyed making maps with Pixelmon, and I want all the mechanics to be game-accurate so I can simulate impossible Showdown fights in them. I know it'll take a while for those features to be added, so at the moment I only see this as an aesthetic replacement. And also, the best model in the game is obviously the Arcanine!

What's the shaders?

Me and 10 friends made an entire recreation map of Kanto on minecraft. In pallet town, we added a "line" to battle with pokemon trainers between Anything goes, 100, , 50 and level 25. An entire shopping center for TMS, Items and Ultra/Great/Poke balls (You get money by fighting wild pokemon or selling items) and lots of 1 on 1 trade stations. I was honestly really impressed and made sure to keep players inbound while allowing players to be able to teleport to cities they've been to by right clicking their respective badge and each badge also grants entry through certain parts of the map. We also added anti-cheats to the server and lots of scripts and extension add-ons. All wild pokemon set corresponding to the games in level, and % appearance rate as well as 0.1% chance of certain pokemon or certain locations opening up at night when the light sensor doesn't receive light, it opens up a path in a cave, forest, or underwater with exclusive pokemon. It was great, pretty much we were going to open up the server to the public but... The server host who had this entire server and map didn't make a copy of it and their entire computer got corrupted and deleted. We all just quit altogether.

I've never played either of these mods, but bro I had no idea Pixelmon's models were so UN-Minecraft! Yeah they're techincally good 3D models of pokemon, but they look horrible in the world of minecraft, but Cobblemon looks incredibly vanilla-friendly.

this guy was paid to say that you cant be serious about half the stuff plus you can even pick the gen 2 starters it feels unfinnshed asf

1:47 music name?

What other mods are being used on this video? I really like the lighting.

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