Why Cybersecurity Training is a SCAM 

"You cant secure what you dont understand" When I tell people that they call me a gatekeeper.

summary of this video: First learn Network before learning Cyber Security if you want to be successful.

This man is absolutely right. Ive been in the field for almost 14 years, Masters, CISM, CISSP, CEH....Getting 1 cert just to get an instant $120K job does not happen 90% of the time. Trainers are making a living, remember that. If you pass or fail, they got paid. I'm a huge believer in self-study.

I totally agree. Once, I made a comment on another RU-vid cyber content creator's video where I mentioned that starting with the CompTIA trifecta (A+, Network+, and Security+) is a good idea rather than jumping straight to the Security+ exam. This way, people build a strong foundation, even if they are just learning the material. Needless to say, that idea was not well-received. In their view, A+ and Network+ content was a waste of time. The point is, if you lack the fundamentals, it's unlikely that you will be able to actually secure anything.

I've learned more by failing OSCP than any of the certs I've passed....and after about 8 years of infosec following over 20 years of IT, there's still so much more to learn.

great insight i been in this 8 yrs & still learning - no way u can learn it all in 6 wks or even 6 months - start at A+ & work up thru certs & training - these bootcamps are all marketing & money grabs

Superb perspective. I have 12 years experience in networking and now foraging into Cybersecurity. And you are right on pint. Many people want to jump on the bandwagon and soon get lost when the jungle matures. Build the foundation. Build!

I have been studying cybersecurity through google, and i can tell you this, google touches on the basics of all the subjects you mentioned except the hardware part. However, i am fortunate enough to know the basics of computer hardware. I've assembled and dissembled motherboards, CPU, graphics card, RAM, internal HDD, internal SSD, power supply, water cooling system, and electric circuits that were not functioning properly. I know what to protect i just dont know how yet, and that's what i am learning now. Also, people can learn on the job. Practical skills are better than multiple choices exam. You can study, have degrees, and all. But all that goes out the window, the minute you graduate.

Straying off topic a bit, but I can't say enough about how amazing of a teacher Andrew is. Like many people in I.T. are told, I have relied on various resources(books, content creators, teachers, etc.) in my studies over the years, when it comes to presenting detailed information in an encouraging way, Andrew is top notch! *Context* I've purchased and gone through most of his courses on Udemy.

I don't have IT background but I have always known that one need to know how network, OS works, including the hardware. Just like someone in web development must know how the client communicates with the server whether you are frontend or backend reason why It took me more time than others to learn web dev and still learning why also learning OS and network fundamentals. I am 31 with no job and my aim is cyber security but I know it will take me many years that is why I am into web dev I also love it. Self taught , maybe I will go back to school for a degree some time in the future.

Thanks for the Video.. I'm not in CyberSecurity but I know basic Security Concepts.but I am Now Learning DevOps but I started first with the Basics of Networking by getting my CCNA, Comptia Network+, A+, etc. which took some years.. then I spent 2 years learning coding Python, JS, HTML. You are right this Stuff Takes Time. Even with all of that there's Still So Much I don't know.. I need som Microsoft Certs.. CyberSecurity aint No Joke, Devops aint no Joke, System Administration aint No Joke.. Cloud Engineering Aint no Joke

99% agree with you. I just finished my cybersecurity degree and it didn't come easy. There was a lot of work and certificates I had to get. I had to work for: - A+ - Network+ - Security+ - CySa+ - Pentest+ - ISC SSCP - ISC CCSP - Python learning - SQL learning - Probably like 100 different tools Even then I still feel like I have a lot to learn. It's never enough in this field, constantly changing and you need to be updated and upgraded. For the 1% that I don't agree with is because I did all this in 6 months, 10 hours a day for 7 days a week. So if anyone is doing it quicker is full of bulls***. Got my comptia A, net, and security using your courses, the most amazing instructor every, much appreciated sir.

True! And the Bootcamp say no experience required !

Glad I found your channel, I've been studying on my own for the last two years, doing udemy courses and getting certifications and I still feel like I wouldn't hire myself lol

I know that Nigerian guy you are referring to, not calling his name..He is always spamming my timeline with 6 weeks to earn 6 figures ad. He said he used to be an Uber driver before that. Scam! 😂

Truth!! Thanks for posting and fixing the video AR! I took a 6 month CS Bootcamp and am going to take your advice and get my A+ first!!

I'm retired now, I worked as a Network Engineer, than I worked for the Defense Information Security Agency (DISA), working to secure Unix based military computer systems, you would not believe the number of attempted intrusion on a daily bases at the Pentagon and other military installations, trying to convince admins to lock-up certain ports, filter IP address, or reconfigure Cisco routers for security reasons was a nightmare, 100K doesn't cover the amount of stress, from all the travel involved or not seeing your family but one week a month. One time I was gone 2 months straight that's a whole story in it's self.

GET A+ CERTIFIED FIRST - NO IFS OR BUTS!!

Thanks, I have been in IT for 15yrs and Cyber Security 8yrs. IT TAKES ALOT of work and experience to get to that level. Getting hire is the hard part. I thought I was the only person who notice this. Thanks for setting the record straight.

Agree 100%, need to understand hardware topology.

A+, i dont know about spending money on that. There are free courses that teach A+. Take the Network+ and practice and play around. Next Cysa or/and Casp+ if yiur thinking about 6 figure jobs. Practice and read.

Absolutely right, this makes a lot of sense!!! Good auditors are expert accountants, top-notch lawyers are experts at law, great teachers are subject matter experts.... so it should be for prolific network security professionals at computer systems & networking matters!!!

Do you think the cisco courses are a good way to start? There are a lot of courses about network basics that i think are a good place to start.

this video has been quite eye opening for me in particular. thanks

I'm working on learning Linux Os and then going over to learning windows os, only to learn how the os works, but this was a really good advice. Thx for the video. 👍

What is the best course/program to learn python? And Linux

If u believe this was my thought about them. Which is good course for linux?

Completely right, I have my ATA in network, and have multiple certifications (A+, Net+, Linux+) and been IT for a couple decades. I have worked in data center, small businesses and all sizes of networks. Only now am I considering Sec+

yea i regret getting swindled into a popular tiktokers bootcamp i could’ve got my sec+ w out that and learned red hat on my own

This 100% true. The reason why it was been marketed in that way was because in the pandemic and people were working from home so naturally security would come a concern. Somewhere long the line someone in marketing saw that and run with that and start to scam people. I been in the industry for the past 4 years and am telling you this for sure, no company will just let you touch any network systems even if you have a certificate. It takes time to build up. So to end off, their is no going around that "You cannot secure what you don't understand".

💯. You're absolutely correct. I think people should take A+ first and while doing that, build a new computer from scratch and understand all the internal components. The next step should they understand the Operating System(Client/Server), and learn it's administration . The step they should earn their CCNA and spend a couple years gaining experience. While doing that they can learn Linux, Python and AWS or Azure cloud.

Pay attention. I've been in the business for over 20 years. This man is speaking the truth.

Working in government IT, I have seen and worked with people who recently graduated from college and have a Security Plus cert, making $100k. I have also seen cyber folks with years of experience who are clueless about the tech. That's the part that bugs me the most - the (cyber) people making the rules (policies and requirements) but don't understand the tech and can't speak to it with approving authorities. Cyber should be made of experienced IT folks who have "graduated" out of the trenches and enjoy paperwork.

Interesting when you said: You can't secure what you don't understand. Funny story: I was able to confidently create a 'secure local LAN' in the late 90's when the Internet was just starting and all the hype (Similarly, to what's happening with AI now) and after a big technical gap of almost 20 years when I was in a management role and then terminated because the company was making cuts, I want to go back to my technical roots. What's funny is that now I feel probably as lost as some of the folks who want to dive into cybersecurity now. When I see what the hackers are doing and what there needs to be known to counter them, it's mind-boggling. I know, you don't usually go at it alone at a company, you are supposed to be backed up by a 'cybersecurity infrastructure' but still, the expectations are way out there. So yes, I totally agree, I don't know how someone can tell you that you can get job ready with a couple of courses or so. In any case, good luck everyone!

You're absolutely right... learn the basics first 😊

Absolutely right. I teach cyber security too. When I start with the basics, they usually lose interest fast because they think it's boring. Pffft! I always tell them, it will catch up with them soon. Get your basics right

Finally, someone has spoken up!

Based on your video, Is a 30 credit masters degree in cyber security worth it?

Hello sir I am trying to your network + course in Udemy and would like to know your name? Thanks

This man is speaking facts, I know personally (whom I love dearly) that has a Masters in Cybersecurity but does not know basic IT.

I have been working in finance for 20 years now. In Oct 2022 I have started my studies and passed A+, Network+, Security+ and this week I have my PenTest+ exam. Everything in 21 months whilst working full time. After this, I have 12 months to take the CEH certifications. Still, I don't know how I am supposed to get the foot in the door in this industry because I understand that I have 0 experience and a lot more to learn. If anybody tells me that this can be done in 6 weeks or even 6 months is 100% delusional.

You got a new subscriber, you are totally RIGHT!

insighful content as always,i couldnt stop laughing throughout this one,was funny but truthfull...can you please make a video for us detailing a roadmap to becoming a pentester,ive alraedy started my journey just wanna hear what you would recommend for absolute begginers.thank you

I'm doing the A + right now,giving myself a good while before I take core 1,then im September I'm off to start a degree in CS and digital forensics.i want to be able to say I have my A+ plus before i start collage

The coupon codes aren’t working 😢

Just the 30+ years here. The learning never stops. XP > All. Those of us who have been in it a while can tell those without XP and the desire quite rapidly. And we are willing to invest in those who want to work hard.

You’re the man Andrew. You have a good heart.

For some people it doesn't click. I have so many relatives with 0 basic IT knowledge yet they want to walk into cyber. They've somehow separated the two concepts.

Currently taking your course on Udemy! You're a great teacher.

Rubbish. I had 6 months of training in cybersecurity by a training institute that specializes in it, got my dream job within 4 months of graduation. Was called to interview with many top companies such as Cloudflare, Splunk, etc. I was switching careers and this was just after I had left my job in retail.

Recognized certifications like CISSP or CISM are not granted to anyone who don’t possess atleast 4-5 years of experience within the same role of Cybersecurity. You can only start as a junior analyst in cybersecurity and grow from there.

While you are entirely correct in the assertion that one cannot secure what they don't understand, you also assert that the Optimum "router" you show is a hybrid piece of hardware that acts as a router, an access point, and a switch. It appears to be a "Optimum F@st 5260CV WiFi Wireless 2 Dual-Band Router" (though, without actually seeing the sticker on the back that has information like its device name and serial number, I cannot be totally sure), which is both a modem [connects the "internet" to a device of yours via your ISP (your Internet Service Provider), and this is the WAN portion of the Optimum Gateway and is why the WAN connection- the red ethernet port in it- is the only one of that type- because the modem itself can only be connected to and from once, and with different connection types] AND a router (which interacts between the internet and all the internet-accessing devices on your LAN), which is what makes it a gateway. To call it a router and an access point and a switch is both wrong (because you didn't call it a modem at all, which is needed to access the internet in the first place) and misleading (because even though it is all of those things, if it is a modem and grants one access to the internet, and if is a router and allows multiple devices access and enhanced functionality and security, then it is, by definition, also an access point and a switch, so naming it as those is superfluous). I understand that this was a "rant and not a teaching video", and since you claim to have the highest rated Security+ course on Udemy (which I do not dispute and take you at your word for) I know you knew this and understood all these differences beforehand, so I just ask you to please place a bit more care in how you name things in your videos. Even those videos that are primarily made to rant with, people will take educational bits from them.

Facts. Lot of youtubers misleading people about cybersecurity to get views.

I've honestly learned more by first passing the A+ and now studying for the Network+, than I did in a year of vocabulary uni (studying IT-security). I wish I had seen this video 1 year ago haha... But at least I've a viable plan now.

i first learned network + and then ceh and i didnt understand anything, so i came back, i did a+, network+, security+,ccna,linux+,programming, and many other stuff, and then i went back to ceh and then i could understand what it actually is saying. it took at least 1 year of full time training, to get the basic right and then went for the pentesting stuff

💯 percent accurate, been in the field more years than I want to count. I have over 13 certifications and at the end of the day it’s the experience that gets you the job. So get your hands dirty and never stop learning.

i have both cissp & ccie, all self study, lots of materials & tools online

This is exactly what I say for sure! You need to know networking basics not jump right into “cyber”

Yup, understanding A+ is crucial, but one can study A+ through self-learning and then proceed to Network+ Certification instead of taking the A+ exam. Eventually its about how the understanding is and how the skills are applied in practical field like iam just at networking basics but deploying my own dns server hosted at vm I learned alot of networking practically .

It's possible to earn six figures as a contractor supporting the military in just about any job over seas but they normally want years of experience, strait out of a course just a few weeks or even months, nope.... not going to earn that much. Won't even get hired.

Unfortunately the hiring industry is paper biased. So never ignore base certification. There is no other structured way to start a career in Cybersecurity or Information security. You will learn the rest when your foot is at the door.

💯% correct 👌 understanding the bases is 🔐🗝️

Real Talk No BS!

Yup definitely

Was just going to give Security+ on Saturday. 😪

I wish I had seen this video last October before I got suckered into Springboard.

Absolutely right. There are no shortcuts. It takes years to build the foundation for a career in any IT field. This is ESPESIALLY TRUE for cybersecurity. RU-vid influencers that tell you to skip the basics and jump to some advanced-level cert are full of Sh$t. Sad but true.

been in this for 10 years and still learning everyday like my dad always said you cant build a mansion with out foundation

PREACH!!!🙌🙌🙌

7:42 So true 💯

That’s a fact, I work in the field and working in the field I see a ton of mediocre professionals with poor practices all the time because they didn’t take the time to develop their skills and just went straight to the bucket of information.

agreed

I agree with you 100% right

yep same case for AI and data engineering. you right. to much crap out there.

Please sir, you said its a free course, but here I am seeing that I have to pay

Agreed 💯

❤❤❤❤ 🎉🎉🎉🎉 Certificate makes me nothing for ability 😅. I agree with you Sir

It sounds like a phishing advertisement scam or may bloated advertisement.

Took me over a year to learn Blockchain when i heard a month or 3 months you will become a Blockchain or solidity master makes me a laugh .

I respect this 100%

The truth behind this. Is amazing

This guy is saying the truth!

it could be today Grandma. i have found enlightenment

The sad part is this has 2000 views but the 100k in 100 days videos have 2 million views

6:58 "Pass your Security+ in 30 days or less...", you are doing the same thing as the people you are complaining about? Just offering it in 4 weeks instead of 6. I agreed with everything you had been saying up until 6:57

you can't secure what you don't understand!!! FACTS!! aka no 5 or more years paying your IT dues equal NO JOB!!

hackers are people who train themselves the best ever advice given me by ethical hackers group

True

Best ÿoutuber of the year

You are 10000000000% Right

Talk about SANS institute. Super rip off. Basic course starts from $7000. I’m sure their instructors fly private planes to reach their destinations. 😅

Training and study are key, certs are a scam

It's certainly fake but not to the core, I enrolled for a course with little bit of prior knowledge on Cybersecurity, the course did cover basics but it's upto the interest of an individual to research more and learn in depth, the courses provide a learning path but it's our responsibility to use that properly, do our own research and prosper

6 figures. I'm just trying for more than 40k a year. Lol.

I just got an IT degree, lol.

let me tell you this, if you live in Bengaluru India. Jain University's BCA (Cybersecurity) course is a scam.

why would you pay 15k+ to not learn shit also

It took me 25 years working in IT to make 100k. If one goes to a quick IT training with no background, you're only quaified to work in entry level making $35k. If you think you'll walk into IT starting at 100k with no experience, you'll quickly get exposed and won't last. You are competing with others from China and India that are smarter than you, have a masters degree and want it more. Start with an entry level job while getting a 2 year IT degree at a junior college, then when you graduate, get your entry level certs, then go for the next job and you'll jump to 60k in 3 years. That is your first three years of throwing your life at this career. Once there, you need to out work others (nicely), get along with everyone and finish your BS degree. IT technology changes every 2-3 years so you must be studying the new stuff almost everyday. If all that sounds hard, then don't do it. If you can do it, work hard, you'll thrive, have a great career and make good money. Good luck.

there are only two options to bceome millonier buy nice Doge coin or become it sercuity guyi😭😂

Best way to learn is just to start hacking companies and agencies. Schools, neighbors house, shopping centers, coffee shops, etc😂 That’s the only way. Legally of course 🤥or not…