Why Cygames is making Shadowverse Worlds Beyond 

For people like me , that werent interested in digital cardgames for a long time, now that SVE has a place in my local game shop this rebranding is just in time. I agree that it is so much nicer for people that never played original SV to come to a fresh start with everyone.

Been playing shadowverse on and off since day 1 and a reset is definitely needed. The Hero's battle event was refreshing to play and I just hope tag battle would come to worlds beyond since I've seen it in the anime, I want tag battle so bad please.

See you guys in Shadowverse: Worlds Beyond!

The game really needs a reset. Hearthstone should do the same tbh. Glad to see Cygames has the balls to actually make this move. People take powerkreep for granted, but with time, I've come to believe that you can just balance your game in a way that isn't dogshit. Shadowverses balance was fucked pretty early on when they decided to make cards like Daria, and we've been fighting broken with broken ever since. Researching the physical cardgame makes me believe they've learned from original shadowverse and will do better this time around. I've played shadowverse when it came out, and even though I haven't played it in some time, I'm looking forward to what they are cooking with worlds beyond.

The video is incredible, very well analyzed. I think you have understood very well why a Shadowverse 2 is needed. I believe that this Shadowverse Worlds Beyond will have a very positive influence, and the number of Shadowverse players might grow to a level we can't even imagine right now.

This was a very insightful video. I cannot wait to get back into Shadowverse with the new release. Thank you for the comprehensive info drop.

Thanks, I needed this.

Looking forward to trying this out!

Good Video! Agree with a lot of these points, game had been power crept for a while now and needed a fresh restart with the TCG and Anime drawing in so many new players it was the perfect time.

I generally hope it comes out on PS5 and Switch someday with crossplay.

1:49 definitely doubt it

I'm looking forward to Worlds Beyond. I've been wanting to play mobile but I always felt like I was too late to join. Now I get the chance to play from the start with this new one coming out.

I played Shadowverse very early on as a transplant from RoB (due to EN servers getting whacked), but I wasn't a super big 1v1 or TCG player. I think this wind down is handled much better from a business sense. Really curious about Cygames in the future

Really loved the original during the first 4 sets and the switch version. I will jump back in but am worried about how they can reasonably handle power creep. I haven't seen a card game successfully handle it.

Looking forward to worlds beyond seeing as my primary card game (Runeterra) was essentially shafted this year and as much as I wanted to get into Shadowverse it just seemed way too late and the meta was far too complex

Loved this game but quit playing it a couple years ago for the reasons you mentioned. Would love to play the new game but that ugly chibi nonsense would be a deal breaker for me.

thanks for making the video, very informative. haven't played since hitting master in unlimited back during season 66, just reinstalled today cause i randomly remembered that shadoverses anniversary comes during this time of year. can't wait to play once it rolls around lol. would love for my leaders bought to carry over at least, i did buy a couple and grind for some. any info on that front?

4-turn win? Ah yes, Atomy Shadow in UL back in the days is just insane.

so, 10 years in the future the same thing will happen?

coming from champion’s battle, this game looks sick!

To me, it's just Cygame's secret plan to give all their IPs Chibi avatars. GBVS Rising has them(even a lobby with football), Uma Musume has that Party Dash game in the works with chibi pixel art, and GBF has always used chibi sprites. Also, I just think that Cygames realizes that games need to be made for an IP to last as something interesting. Live service can only go so far when the code is lagging behind.

I'm just glad we finally get a new Satan card

Hopefully they’ve learned how to handle power creep better for SV2. The game needs to have a banlist with the rotation to help power creep stay slow.

i just wanna play with my artifacts bro

Ngl i played shadowverse for a good bit but didn't get much time to play it as much afterwards Maybe worlds beyond will stick long term

As long as you can carry over the previous game's stuff to the new game. I wanna keep all my old leaders

I got the Switch game, Shadowverse: Champion’s Battle and I love the characters and world. And the card game was fun, if really challenging with the rules. I don’t know about Worlds Beyond.

Solid video

If you can't keep you're leaders, I doubt I'll invest my time into it.

I hope it gets more popular. I don't want to have to describe it to people as Hearthstone, but anime.

With that explaination make sense for them to make a secuel game.

Those hips don't lie

I played SV since day 1 and quit around the time the Wicked Avatar rotated out if I recall correctly. My issue was not only power creep but the very obvious preference on some classes over others. I played ONLY Haven which I know was shooting myself on the foot, but Haven provided me with a unique gameplay at the start with countdowns, forcing me to memorize every other deck so that my amulets would pop when I needed them forcing the opponent to either fall for it or do a suboptimal play. But no matter how long, that was pretty much it... There was basically no amulet support, Haven became a Storm thing which I didn't like, other classes started getting way more mechanics while I am sure Haven got none even to this day. Furthermore I was never interested in other classes as they were all basically Aggro in a different flavor or something I found frustrating or ridiculous like Spellbootsing giving you an advantage for throwing cards, Sword eventually having free evolves , or dragon being a Ticking time bomb with a speed up button and so on. I know Haven got a taste of these too later on but in all honesty the experience felt the same even when I was winning since. This time I am hoping that they rework not only Haven but every class to be actually unique so that I won't feel compelled to play haven only again. And yes, I am aware of the Healing centric strategies, ward strategies, Diamond and the countdown support. But honestly these were not it for me as they didn't feel unique at all even if they were strong. Either way, see you guys in Worlds Beyond.

"generous" and you show the least generous one, grandblue fantasy where peoples farm for half a year to get their characters as for the hub its something they already developped for grandblue versus and rising, so its not surprising they update their game with this addition

So earlier this year Legends of runeterra essentially died to me. They completely gutted it and set it to just being a POC thing which...no. Sadly since it was something a lot of us saw coming thanks to the games monetization being well Not that great at making money. Still it sucks that i haven't had a competitive online card game to scratch that itch. So when my friend told me that Shadowverse was getting essentially a sequel Yep ill be there day one to see if this is the thing for me.......or are online card games gone for me

Just wish the game would let old shadowverse players keep their existing leaders instead of forcing them buying again for a 10$ DLC each

If they really are dumping the main game then I'm done with the ip as a whole

I completely disagree with your power creep take, i think it only signifies a lack of imagination from the creators

Money?

bof i enjoy shadowvers yet but i can understand the need for a reset

Rage of bahumat then shadow interesting 😅

And now they pushed it 9 months. Leaving playerbase nothing to do.

It’s the one piece problem, you ain’t getting any new readers at chapter 1050.

After ditching YGO, SV really made me enjoy card games again. Really looking forward to SVWB.

I'm sad I'm losing my hatsune miku skin

I was pretty dejected by the design decisions by the R&D team during Wonderland Dreams and didn't feel they had the skill and ability to maintain a balanced format moving forward so i stopped around there and didn't feel any urge to play the game again actively at that point. If anything were to bring me to look at SV2 it would probably be the last point, which is about the general social hub stuff mostly cause it's a smart decision by cygames to have mode in the game with variable engagement levels that will rope in many types of people to at least install it and look at it and possibly play some games over time while engaging with the app. They did something similar with Granblue Fantasy Versus Rising and i think it was a good decision there as well.

Never get into Shadowverse because the New player gate. Might but this one up

Well, look at yugioh and its powercreep

I want to play more banlanced card game, sorry but that´s my opinion.

IMO kinda make sense.... im tire orf YuGiOh bc the OTK decks r too ez to pull off now lol

Cause they tired of balancing blood

The logic of having a stale meta is a false logic, Many people play older formats in irl cardgames. Because they like the pace snd diversity. Sometimes power creep reduces diversity and depth.

Cant trust a card company that burns your entire collection every 8 years when im still able to play with cards from the worst card company of them all from 30 years ago.

I played SV for the first three sets and I'm not interested in playing again if we can't use our old cards for anything. "bUt EvErY gAMe dIeS eVEnTUALLY!!" No. Netrunner is "dead", but I can still use my cards to play and they've actually risen in vakue as they age. The "dead" formats of Magic still have monetary and play value. Not even giving compensation to old SV players is sleazy.

I like the game itself honestly. Shadowverse is a very weak adaptation by itself, they (the devs) will get some more time with this remake but I don't understand 1 thing. Nobody watches the anime because it is very lame & why would anybody watch it if theres a better option (Yu-Gi-Oh) & nobody plays the game because why would anybody do, this is Heartstone with evolution points. So, why the hell they dont invest their money to promoting the existing card game & implementing some new content to it instead of completely mass up the existing game and releasing it in a new package? The main reason nobody plays these games are that the only games majority knows are Heartstone, Pokémon or Yu-Gi-Oh and thats because of their marketing is way better. Theres no need for an entire shadowverse anime series, they should make stupid Facebook and Instagram ads like any other noname games does nowadays, and than they could reach more players. This Shadowverse 2 remake/release/update whatever to call, is a half-solution. After a year or so the playerbase will drop down back where it is now.

Myopic USA 🦅 culture is so prevalent, you need a long explanation to justify being pro reform and not mindlessly short-term-ist. 🙄

Not looking forward to it at all considering how they balanced the original game.

If anything, I’d like to see them stepping away from the “Quest” deck design. Over the years, SV cards design has been repetitive just because they are already too deep in this kind of design. There has to be a 1pp ping 1 in your face, 2pp ping 1 to your face twice, etc. because they keep making Wrath payoffs. And it got worse, because sometimes these quest decks either have too good payoffs or too easy requirements, or both. And to combat that, they make another quest deck that’s even better, instead of trying to stop that kind of design. It’s the one thing that made me fall out of love with the game. Quest design can be very interesting if done right, but now it’s just used as a way to give everything in a deck storm and/or to deal an absurd amount of face damage that the opponent just can’t do anything about it.

“I cAnT tRuST a COmpANy ThAT buRns AwAY cOlLecTiOns” Nothing is forever yugioh will one day die magic the gathering will one day die even Pokémon will one day die and you will have sunk more money in them by the time they do

So far they've fucked up in 4 ways: 1-Not giving any info. They announced the game in December and barely talked ever since. 2-Merging Shadowcraft and Bloodcraft. The reasoning is that "7 classes are easier to balance than 8" and that "Blood's mechanics aren't good", yet we currently have arguably the most balanced Rotation meta with Blood having 3-4 meta-viable decks. Alsoo less classes means more cards per class and thus more potentially broken interactions, just like Crosscraft showed us. 3-Not giving veterans much freebies. Not only we obviously lose our card collections (which hurts but could be reasonable by itself), but also we know nothing about compensations, AND we'll lose our leader skins (it has been confirmed leader skins won't transfer, other unespecified cosmetics will). 4-The "maintenance mode" of the original Shadowverse is legit looking very good. Throwback Rotation, Custom Rotation, more cosmetics, scheduled events and potentially more balance patches. Some people may not feel the need to "make the jump" into Worlds Beyond.

Very much a massive red flag for a company to burn away collections like this. Means that there's no reason to give them your money since they'll stop supporting whatever you get anyway.

LMAO DELAYED

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Yeah, cool, BUT WHY DELETE SHADOWCRAFT???

It's very simple. They want people to start spending money on packs and skins again. The only way to do that is by making the cards and skins people already have, useless. Having cards and skins in Shadowverse will mean nothing anymore once the developer stops making new content and people stop playing because of it. They try to make it seems less bad by keeping the servers up but it doesn't. If they also want to reset the power creep, they can just do it within the current game. They can literally just limit all the currently existing cards to Unlimited only or a new format and start releasing new packs with new mechanics and lower power levels for rotation. Whenever a developer say that their engine is too old to keep making new and exciting content, it's a fucking lie. Proven by Riot. They did not need a new engine just to make a great 2D card game. It was for the open world 3D shit no one asked for. In the end, cygames proved themselves to be untrustworthy when they won't hesitate to shut down a game with so many players that have invested their time into for money. Shame

I think it's dumb to create a new game after people spent so much money to get skins and cards. People won't be happy about that. They should create a system where you at least gain something from having spent money on shadowverse, just like smite does. I'm very sure World's beyond is going to have power creeping too, just like any mobile game.