Why Darth Vader VS Voldemort Has NEVER Even Been Close! 

I believe the best way to sum this up was a meme I saw: Darth Vader ruled an entire galaxy Voldemort couldnt even take over a high school

"Lord Vader, we've pinpointed the disturbance you spoke of on the small planet below. Shall I ready your shuttle?" "No. Commence planetary bombardment. I have other concerns."

Voldemort: “You will lose everything.” Darth Vader: “You don’t know the power of the Dark Side.”

"All i am surrounded by is fear.. And dead men"🥶 -Darth Vader

Kind of hard to speak the casting spells when getting forced choked.

Voldemort not only couldn’t beat a teenage boy, but there are literally no dueling feats that help him. Even going against Dumbledore , that man was old as hell.

Voldemort does not have longer range. Vader does not even have to be on the same planet to Force choke.

I'd rather see Count Dooku vs Voldemort in a Chess match. The gentlemanly insults and comebacks would be one for the ages.

"Avada Kedavra is an unblockable spell" Harry Potter: Hold my butterbeer.

Voldemort: "AVAD-" *getting force choked* Vader: "Do not scream"

Hard to cast spells when you're being forced choked, and your wand is pulled from your hand.

Full potential anakin is not even needed

Vader: "Horcruxes? Funny that, I have been sensing your presence in the Force in about half a dozen places ever since I came to this planet. Might as well go take a look. **Breaks Voldemort's wand with the Force, grabs him by the neck and goes for a stroll.**

Vader: a twig as your weapon of choice? *wand snaps in voldemorts hand*

I think one thing worth mentioning here, is that in a head to head fight neither is going to have any idea what the other is capable of, and both have issues with being arrogant. That being said, Voldemort tends to be far more arrogant and likely to underestimate his opponent, while Vader has force precog to aid him. Thus the moment voldemort tries to arrogantly cast a spell, vader's force precog will alert him to the danger allowing him to either block the attack with his lightsaber or use the force to wrench the wand away. And at that point Voldemort is pretty much defenseless since the force can act faster than voldy's spells. Thus force precog always allows vader to be ready for whatever Voldy throws, while Voldy has no idea what Vader has in his arsenal until snake boy is already hit with it. So Vader Stomps hard.

Force chokes before Tom can wave his wand

No, Anakin was not yet the most powerful Jedi--he had the "potential" to be the most powerful. Also, Sidious did not concede that Anakin WAS more powerful; during their lightsaber battle, Sidious told Yoda that Vader "WILL BE" more powerful than them.

Also, take away the main weapons: Vader - would still be able to force to choke him, snap his neck, throw him around like a ragdoll, etc. Voldemort - just becomes a guy who really likes year-round Halloween

“DARTH VADER! Finally, an opponent worth my-“ *force choke*

"Avada kad...ack!...ack!" (Chokes out and dies) "I find your lack of power disappointing"

The force shows Vader that the wand of the source of much of Voldemort's power. Darth yanks wand with the force, pins Voldemort's hands and mouth, game, set match

Voldermort, could not even take over a school. Vader held a Galaxy in his hand.

Vader winning a lightsaber battle with 3rd sister while unarmed and ONE HANDED is possibly the biggest flex ever.

Vader would win hands down. Walks in and Force chokes Voldemort while holding him in the air. Yeah Voldemort's spirit can't be killed but his physical body can and it would obviously take a huge amount of time to get a new body for the rematch, plus if Vader really wanted he could actually study up a bit on Dark Side rituals and imprison or possibly even absorb Voldemort's soul into himself. Magic is very versatile yeah but in almost all its forms you need to be able to move or talk which Vader can stop easily

Vader just fucking blitzes and one taps him LMFAO. The speed gap alone is fucking monstrous but Vader's far superior range and AP mean that Voldy just... dies horribly.

Darth Vadar's main weakness opponents having the high ground

Vader to Voldemort: WE WOULD BE HONORED IF YOU WOULD JOIN US

As a huge HP fan, I don't believe any wizard can hold up against any force user. Most spells are point and shoot. So a force user can easily sense and block or dodge the spells. While a wizard has no defence against the force. It's not even really a fight.

If expelliarmus works I could see Vader just force pulling it back before it even gets a foot away from him.

Darth Vader killed millions and ruled a whole entire galaxy Voldemort couldn't even take over a high school

crazy how this is even a debate

Why do these "vs." things always go against Darth Vader, and not his BOSS? Seriously, you beat Vader, and you just hear "Goood.....GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDD! EVERYTHING has transpired according to MY design!"

Voldemort would shit his robes if he could tell how powerful in the Force that Darth Vader was.

I think the light saber is Vader's single biggest X-factor in his favor for this fight. That thing is pure condensed, compressed energy. Any spell that Voldemort throws at Vader will get either blocked, deflected or absorbed by the saber. Its pretty much the ultimate counter for any physical or energy based attack, with magic being its own form of energy.

Can you talk about why Harry Potter vs Luke Skywalker isn’t even close because this debate been around since this whole Star Wars vs Harry Potter happened online along with Yoda vs Dumbledore

Voldemort kept losing to a little kid. Vader slaughtered Jedi for over 20 years

TWO WORDS: Force crush

This is a excellent example of a phenomena in VS Debates I call "Material Quantity Bias", which basically means that whoever has more material is naturally favored. If we only has the original Star Wars trilogy, Volds would probably be favored, but Star Wars is a series where there is vastly more auxilliary material than source material while Harry Potter still has very little actual auxiliary material to go with the books, hell, there is probably more Darth Vader books than Harry Potter books. Because Star Wars is 99,5% worldbuilding/auxiliary material by volume, Vader has a near endless list of feats, skills and powers to analyze while Voldy has very little due to the lack of material and Rowlings wobbly worldbuilding. The result of this is that whenever we bring up a feat or skill of Volds, there is ALWAYS a skill or feat of Vader that trumps it, simply because there is just so damn much Vader material.

Here’s how it would go, Voldemort “avatoca-“ agh* agh* cough* Vader “ magic hugh, I don’t think it’s much of a , choking matter.”

Not vader being able to snap voldemort's neck as soon as the fight starts

All I know Is I would hate facing either in combat...

I know the star wars fan base has a lot of debates and arguments but literally everyone would agree that Anakin was not the strongest Jedi. He has the highest midichlorian level (Luke and Leia might have more) which means he had the highest potential. Also he wasn't at the peak of his power at that time, it's just that's where his power was cut short. If Anakin were have to been in a fight against an older version of himself he would likely have lost

It’s basically a fight between science vs magic.

Voldemort, quite frankly, is one of the weakest, most pathetic Dark Lords EVER. Vader, Sidious, Sauron, Morgoth, Ganondorf, Dracula, all of these other Dark Lords easily outclass Voldemort in every category, from personal powers and abilities to the scopes of their armies and influence. Voldy WISHES he was in their league.

Cant powerful sith stave off death? So couldn't he just tank the death curse? And wouldn't the torture curse only help his force powers like his annoying suit does?

If anyone thinks Voldemort will win is crazy. Whatever Voldemort decides to dish out Darth Vader is already able to counter before he thinks of doing something. This fight isn’t close, it’s like putting a spider vs a lion.

Darth vader ruled an galaxy while voldemort couldnt even rule an basement

If Vader can pull fu**ing star destroyer, I like to think that he can just squish Veldemort with the force

vold: starting a sentence for a spell vader: forcechokes

another fine video by danco!

Who came to the comments to find someone defending Voldemort 😂

I have to go with Vader here as the winner but transmutation is the big X factor for me. If Voldemort can land that it's over. However that is a big If. Not brought up was the fact force users do have some precognitive abilities. If Voldemort plans to start whipping out Transmutations it may lead to Vader just ending things as he will sense significant danger coming. Hell even if it lands if Vader is still sentient he may still have the force so he might win as a spider as Voldemort is about to step on him and gets his head cut off by a floating light saber. In the end I think though this is a very talented and very skilled Bully versus a legitimate Bad Ass. Vader is made of stronger stuff and I see Voldemort breaking first.

If it’s a 1V1, then Voldemort literally has an instakill button

Another thing to consider is that because of the way the force works anyone who decides to take a disappearing act won’t work unless you’re teleporting or outright removing yourself from existence for a short while. Also there is a portion of the Jedi training that focuses solely on calming and focusing the mind under high duress and combat, and the most adept at this are even capable of seeing a few seconds into the future in the middle of combat (though it when it comes up it’s usually talked about like it’s a rare ability and not something you can learn)

The winner is whoever takes the more aggressive move first. Who realizes the threat across from them first and decides not to toy with their food? Voldy has an unblockable instakill up his sleeve, but he still has to be able to cast it, which Vader can easily prevent with a force choke.

Being a long time fan of both these series, I'm glad you came to the proper conclusion

I feel like if vader starts toying with voldemort he might actually lose, as there probably are some spells that are effective against him, but if Vader doesn't give time to Voldemort to think and figure the spells out, he can just block or dodge first spells and cut voldemort in half.

There’s a comic where Darth Vader gets surrounded by thousands of rebel troops. When they tell Vader that he’s surrounded and he should surrender he responds with, “All I am surrounded by is fear. And dead men.” This took place not too long before The Empire Strikes Back, so it’s safe to say he won.

Vader chokes him no diddy

Major W for Danco!!!! If you’re coming to the comments to say Voldemort wins you’re insane. Vader can see the future during battles and would predict his every move before he makes it, not that he’d make any moves because Vader starts this fight with a force choke immediately and kills him off rip. Only way to stop from being rag dolled with the force is to also be an equal or close force user and be protect yourself with your invisible force barrier

Alternative 1: “AVADAKAKKAAKKAKAHHhhhhh” gets force choked Alternative 2: “Do your silly little spell.” “Avadacadaavra!” *blocks the green light*

Force choke solos Voldemort. If that doesn’t work then cutting up Voldemort’s wand certainly will.

Anakin was not the most powerful lol. He never reached his full Potential.

Man, I'm not gonna get too deep into this because I really don't have a dog in this argument either way, but I JUST need to tell you, you have a VERY... "basic, rudimentary" idea of how the Unforgivable Curses work. Chiefly referring to "Crucio," or the "Cruciatus Curse," and Avadakedavra. The Cruciatus is more than just the biological-level of pain that Vader would feel from his wounds, it's deliberately crafted as a Spell to make you feel, "Pain beyond imagining," but also to prevent you from blacking out, which would be the mind's natural defense-mechanism from pain overload. And 2, the whole, "Avadakedavra needs to connect with flesh to work." No... No it doesn't. If you're wearing a suit of armor, or a kevlar vest, or you ductape a bunch of phone-books to your body, it doesn't matter. It's no different than getting struck by lightning while wearing a kevlar vest. If the spell hits whatever is on you, it goes THROUGH that and it severs your soul from your body without causing any physical damage. It just KILLS. It IS "deaths touch" in spell-form. Vader wearing his machine-suit or mechanical body-parts of any kind would not make a difference. Other than that, interesting video.

You will never defeat me Anak.... *Voldemort begins to be suffocated*

This is such a good video and such a good take. I love how well explained it is and such good evidence. Great video keep it up 👍

Wait did you just say "at at"

The eternals vs infinity ultron with drew voicing over the video

(Note: This comment was thought up before watching the video. I'm now at the 6:01 mark, so not even into Voldemort's portion yet.) Voldemort raises wand. Vader: "Allow me to put this in terms you'll understand." Vader raises a hand. Vader (sarcastically): *"ACCIO WAND!!!"* The wand flies to Vader's hand. He stares at it with curious contempt. "You thought to threaten *me* with... _a stick_?" Vader tosses wand into the air. He clenches his fist as the wand shatters above him, showering him with wood dust and feathers. He then looks at Voldemort, nodding to the side a bit as Voldemort grabs his throat. A loud snapping sound is heard as Voldemort's neck snaps.

I was gonna say voldemort could win but then i realised all vader would need to do is raise his hand and make a fist, crushing moldy voldys head

I’m seeing some very misinformed comments saying Avada Kadavera could break the lightsaber if it tried to block. Based on what evidence? Lightsabers can reflect Turbolasers seen on AT-ATs. Luke once hijacked an AT-AT and tried using its guns on Vader. Didn’t work. The only confirmed things capable of shattering a lightsaber blade are pure cortosis and other lightsaber blades made from Synthetic crystals. Voldemort has neither. Remember the duel with dumbledore in the books, small statues shattered but most of the time it harmlessly bounced off solid objects. When lightning bolts hit statues, they tend to explode. A lightsaber can handle lightning bolts just fine, so it absolutely can take an avada kadavera. But even if it could, Vader is not out of the fight. Destroy voledemort’a wand and 90% of his abilities are gone.

Considering that lightning attacks and even the unforgivable killing curse green bolt can be blocked by objects or dodged make them ineffective against a fully powered Darth Vader with telekineses and his lightsaber being guided to superhuman lvls by the force.

I'll tell you why they're never close: because they are galaxies far far away! 🗿

Voldemort vs Darth Vader. Darth Vader force chokes Voldemort from his ship

Vader was also an expert at the Force Technique, Force Absorb. It allows him to absorb energy, or elemental attacks, and be used to refuel their own energies.

Though voldemort can apparate around, which could give him an advantage and he can use the disintegration curse that Molly Weasly used against Bellatrix lestrange, which could destroy biology and technology.

If you implement the principles of blood magic from Harry Potter, a wizard or witch could use Vader’s blood and end him from across the galaxy.

Me just trying to figure out if he’s a Star Wars or Harry Potter Fan throughout the whole video

Wasn’t Harry Potter able to block the Avada Kadavra from Voldemort with a Expelliarmus spell?

First thing, the matchup is dependent on how the force and magic interact. To make the matchup fair, they'd need to be able to block each other. With that assumption, I think Vader would have the edge in a fight, but Voldemort's Horcruxes would give him multiple chances. So while Voldemort might not win the first fight, he would eventually be able to get his revenge (most likely). But there's no telling how a combat will go - a stronger fighter can lose to a weaker one.

There's also one thing that would work against Voldemort in this match up. He's afraid of death, in Rebels, Kanan and Ezra feel a cold whenever Vader is around, and cold is typically associated with things like death. To Voldi, Vader is practically death itself as a living man.

Voldemort senses with magic a worthy adversary approaching. He readies himself with a bunch of dastardly spells… Death Star emerges from hyperspace, does a victory orbit around planet earth just for fun, then destroys Voldemort along with the entire planet he’s standing on. The End. Oh. Alternatively, he could just show up with his star destroyer and orbitally bombard Great Britain until it was just a boiling section of the North Sea. Also The End. You don’t know the power of the dark side. And of peace through superior firepower!

Voldemort has horcruxes

Ozai is better matchup for voldy

Voldemourt: Avada- *Darth Vader force chokes him* Darth Vader: Be careful not to choke on your aspirations *force pulls Voldemort, then stabs him with his lightsaber*

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Voldemort beats canon vader. He outhaxs too much and voldemort being able to possess even in spirit form also gives him a garunteed win condition as vader has no way to counter possession.

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Voldemort: Avadaca-... Ack! Hack! *Choking sounds* Vader: *making clenching gesture with his fingers* BE CAREFUL NOT TO CHOKE ON YOUR ASPIRATIONS VOLDEMORT. Not to mention Vader could just forgo the choking and snap his neck like he did to that civilian in the Kenobi series. Or what about Voldemort's wand? A little telekinesis... Snap! Oops....well that'll cut your spell effectiveness down. I would also point out that you mentioned Voldemort having a greater effective range.... But you said earlier in this video that Vader could Force Choke someone from across the Galaxy. Now I kinda think that is an exaggeration but if it IS true... Name one person Voldemort killed from a Galaxy away.

Honestly my first thought is that Vader would just use the force with nary a twitch of his wrist or utterence from his throught and jerk the little twig out of Baldy's hand before he could even speak a syllable of a counter charm and there ya go, fight is over.

Even if we disregard everything else, Vader has two abilities that Voldemort has absolutely no hard counter against: Force-aided precognition and speed. You don't need anything else. Force users regularly deflect blaster bolts with their lightsabers, and Voldemort's signature attack is a green beam so slow a juvenile can dodge it, in his bleeding and weakened state, by darting behind a gravestone. Vader would literally *yawn* at any number of Avada Kadaervas shot at him. It's also blockable by inanimate objects, which Vader tends to throw around a lot with the Force.

1st rule of fighting a wizard, never let them speak. Force choke ends this rather quickly.

Imagine challenging someone to a duel and they force choke you from across the galaxy

So you're telling me that every single person that was hit with the killing curse was always a face or a handshot? Where does it say that the killing curse can only work if it hits a person's skin that makes zero sense.

I think this fight is a lot more even than a lot of people are making it, but the vast majority comes down to how the force and magic interact. A few preliminary assumptions about magic that I think most people are missing: - A wand is a focus item, not the source of magical power. (HP made glass disappear without a wand. Longbottom bounced when dropped by his uncle.) Some magic can be done without that focus, so breaking the wand does not make Voldemort defenseless, but significantly less of a threat. - Magic is as all encompassing as The Force. It can influence things in much the same way. Both magic and The Force tend to require time to research/meditate to understand how to wield their powers. - Magic allows mathematical and scientific impossibilities: Buildings where there is not space to put them, technological exclusion zones. - Star Wars Tech is essentially muggle tech. Imperials are essentially muggles. - Wizards can make areas where muggle tech doesn't work. (Depending on how this works, Vader's lightsaber and suit likely become nothing but dead weight.) Some questions which need answered to figure out how the fight would go: - What can Voldemort do without his wand? He clearly isn't helpless since the wand is merely a focus item . . . but he's not nearly as powerful, either. - Does magic allow a user to disapparate at will and escape force activities (push, pull, choke)? If so, this becomes a reasonably even fight. - Does magic counter Imperial technology? If the fight occurs in an area where "Muggle technology" such as Vader's suit don't function, Vader's in trouble. If this extends to Vader's saber not working, he's in a *LOT* of trouble. - Can a lightsaber block magic? Most people seem to assume that it can because it can block practically anything in the Star Wars universe . . . but I don't know if that's a safe assumption. If it can, then Voldemort is in a world of hurt. If not, Vader *MUST* break the wand immediately. I think this fight boils down to "Who can eliminate the others' advantages first?" Here's how I see this fight going down: Volde is playing defense because he values his own life above all else, while Vader is well known for going on the offensive. Vader finds the secret keeper for Voldemort's lair, and forces the location of the lair from him. Vader then proceeds to the lair, only for his saber and suit to immediately malfunction upon entering. Voldemort's home is protected by a muggle tech exclusion zone. Volde, now alert to the attack goes to investigate. Vader, prone and unable to breathe in his malfunctioning suit, force pulls himself outside to relative safety. Once outside, the suit and lightsaber immediately resume normal functioning. Voldemort apparates behind Vader while Vader is not yet fully recovered. Wanting the invader to suffer he shouts "Crucio!" The beam of light hits Vader in the back. Vader is in a world of debilitating pain and suffering. Unfortunately for Voldemort, this has the opposite effect Voldemort intends. Vader is both used to pain, and uses it to power his rage. Vader fights through the pain and tries to block it with his saber, but unlike anything he's used to, the saber fails to block the magical stream. Voldemort laughs at his pathetic victim. "You are pathetic! Your power is useless against me!" Wanting to end the pain, Vader uses The Force to snap the wand. Fortunately for Voldemort, he's begun keeping a spare wand in his pocket. Before Tom can pull it out, Vader begins to Force Choke him. Voldemort puts his hand in his pocket, grabs the spare, and immediately disapparates back into his lair. Vader, knowing he is at a severe disadvantage inside the lair, chooses not to follow. Instead, he summons a transport from his ship. He orders the ship to bombard the lair from orbit, only for the gunner to inform him that there is no such location. Fortunately for Vader, he has kept his informant (Voldemort's secret keeper) alive for further questioning. Upon being mocked by the secret keeper, Vader flies into a rage, and kills him. "Lord Vader! We don't know what happened, but the location wasn't there a moment ago, but we can see it now!" "Excellent. Fire." Voldemort's Lair is engulfed in death from above, yet he does not die. He has made himself immune to heat and used his magic to create a wall of force around himself, but many of his enchantments were destroyed in the blast. Tom flees to one of his secondary bases. Sensing this, Vader returns to the planet. Finding the new secret keeper, he saves time by killing her immediately. Riddle, not knowing the secret keeper has died, stays in his lair. Vader blasts it from space. Again, Riddle survives, but not realizing there was an imminent threat, he was less prepared, and severely weakened. Vader, finds his quarry, and begins by using the force to snap his wands and force Riddle's hands away from his pockets. "You were more powerful than I expected. Still, it is time for you to die." Riddle unable to focus and deprived of magical defenses, is cut in half by a lightsaber.

I thought I was gonna come in on another thing where a character I know is paired against someone I doesn’t know that is just stupid fucking OP simply because of the writers (obviously) This is a happy change of pace!

Fight Results: ~points stick~ "Avada Ked~crunch~" ~Body Slumps On Ground~ ~Vader epically walks away.~

No spell, is getting through Vader's force shield (it's cannon, which is why one force user can't force choke another in the middle of a fight, both parties have their force shield at full strength while fighting) No way Voldemort's lightning is even a FIFTH as strong as Palpatine's force lightning and would easily be deflected/absorbed by Vader's saber Darth Vader's hatred isn't entirely his own, it's him channelling the dark side of the force and using his emotions to fuel him in a very different way than a non force sensitive. Every negative emotion Vader has allows him a greater connection to and in turn a greater way to channel the Dark side of the force. Voldemort's evil is his own, that of a human being. As far as I know, magic isn't an all binding force that flows through us all, but even if it were, or even you could equate all of Voldemort's magic affinity, to Vader's force affinity, it's NO CONTEST. Vader doesn't smile, Vader doesn't laugh, when he cracks jokes, it's to make him FEAR you, not to make either one of you laugh, He doesn't experience ANY positive emotion, EVER. The ONLY TIME We have EVER seen Darth Vader even RESEMBLE any sort of happiness was with his fight with Obi wan during the Kenobi TV show, and the ONLY reason is he smiling, is because he is about to commit murder and revenge. It was a fleeting moment of not joy, but accomplishment, as he was standing in front of his old Jedi master with the dark side RAGING throughout every body part he had left. Voldemort has been known to smile, laugh has emotions aside from anger and hate, and is just an all around inferior combatant to any dark side user, let alone Darth Vader. That Vader doesn't count anyway, as he's not the Vader that George Lucas Envisioned, even though they are both the same in terms of power if you aren't accounting for EU Vader, who is even stronger than either of the other two vaders. Vader could force choke Voldemort before he even walked into the arena lmao

Honestly the more they amp up vader, the more impressive luke is.

The answer is a force power used by both the Jedi and the Sith known as teutemimus (no idea if I spelled that right). With this power, which Darth Vader has demonstrated mastery of, Vader can nullify and snuff out any energy based attacks such as blaster bolts, force lightning, lightsaber blades, and magic spell from a wand. Spells from a wand are literally all Voldemort has. So, while Vader uses one hand to absorb or snuff out any spell Voldemort casts, including the Killing Curse, he (Vader) is free to use his other hand for either a saber throw, a force choke, or to radio his master about the dumbass with the stick