I rewatched Dead Poets tonight and realized that the saddest part about Neil’s suicide is that his father didn’t learn from it. Instead of acknowledging his fault on the matter and feeling for the way he suffocated his son’s dream, he chose the easiest path, the blissful lie, and blamed Keating. When Todd finally stood up - literally - at the final scene, it brought tears to my eyes. He had finally found his voice. Keating was leaving indeed, but his legacy would remain forever.
Truly indeed. So sad Mr.Perry just cried so hard but didnt get the message... The look Mr.Keating gives when saying Thank You is the best part for me.. I can feel it that somehow, he knows he has taught something right.
Brilliant comment!! If I was Neil, I would've written a letter to all the guys and Mr. Nolan explaining why he committed suicide and the blame should be on his father and not Mr. Keating!!
Great comment. You have my sympathies my friend. A very powerfull movie and I shed a tear at the final scene aswell... It also may have something with the thing that I had a similar teacher in my high school, who was very different from the norm and who had a huge impact on me and all of our fellow classmates, whilst also being "hated" by other professors, but actually really misunderstood... Teachers like that are actually geniuses... Peace mate.
@@user-jn7tc3tp2x Yep, a letter would have been a perfect shot. But nevertheless, if he actually did leave a letter, his father wouldn't have showed it to the school... So the ending would actually be the same...
I think the reason Neil committed suicide was this: He did try to stand up to his father, but his father shouted him down by saying he can forget acting. In Neil's mind, he thought his dad wasn't going to understand no matter what he said about the acting, that it is a passion and not a whim and that he cannot control Neil's life. Neil has to find his own life. So after that, he feels there is nothing to live for, his dream is destroyed by his dad. He decided to destroy his dad's dream in retaliation by killing himself. Now Mr. Perry no longer has a son, a legacy. Was it right for Neil to kill himself? Of course not. Keating wouldn't have approved of that. That was "choking on the bone" as he put it. Keating had told Neil to stand up to his dad, which Neil was unable to do. That's the whole thing about it. In regards to Keating's teachings, he doesn't say that becoming a lawyer or doctor is bad, but do that because YOU want to do it, not because your parents tell you that is your career. He is teaching the boys through poetry to be free thinkers as well. He is using examples from poetry to show meanings and values and how this poetry isn't just something to read and appreciate or dismiss. How many other subjects do we look at in school and wonder where this is going to apply to life? There are times in school when I wondered what was so important about stuff we were learning. In the end, it had to do with just discovering the stuff. Yes, maybe I haven't used some of the stuff as an adult, but it is just something that I know about and can share with others or even look at as a hobby.
I used to teach years ago, and I remembered to swerve from the tradition, just as Mr Nolan would want, we had to stick to tradition. I certainly can relate to and understand Mr.Keating's look in his eyes when he said Thank You to his boys who stood up for him.
@@ketchup5344 here's the thing Keating has the right idea of what school was meant to be about and what it should be about and if your lucky enough to get into a class with someone like him that's when you learn the subject on a much deeper level and it sticks with you much longer. but there's to many Gale Nolan's in the academic world and that's why for so many people School is not really about anything. I honestly think at least half of a college degree is just pointless generals so they can get away with charging everyone more and recoup the costs of the teachers that would otherwise not have very many people in their classes but still are needed for some of the majors they offer. But on the other hand, if I was to take a look at the topics given in a lot of them and then look at it from the way Keating looked at Poetry, then there's a lot more of an argument there as to why this would be useful for the general public. Shame that so few teach that way.
Ya, cause his father broke his heart. His father, the man who was supposed to support his child in life, didn’t approve of his sons dream. All his son wanted in life was to be was an actor, all his father wanted in life was for his son to be a doctor. Parents should support their children’s dreams. Well said by the way home slice.
When my mom saw the movie - she is quite an authoritarian, but thank God she no longer runs MY life - she said, "The teacher had no right to mess with the minds of those young vulnerable kids, putting ideas into their heads prematurely, before they were ready. This is what you get when you do that - a student kills himself. Keating knew what would come out of the confronration between Neil and his father, but encouraged Neil anyway. And now Keating will have to live with this burden for the rest of his life. These students were under age. He should've just focused on literature." I was speechless 🤦♀️ is this what controlling parents take away from this film?? That's sad.
I hope my mom doesn't perceive it like that. She will though, I'm sure but I'll still show it to her to see if she can prove me wrong and not be as obstinate.
The last scene of movie meant so much to me. When most of them stands on the tables one by one. And the camera shows them along with the ones still sitting. It has so much depth. I percieved it as, although they may still follow the rules of the school but they have found their voices. They can stand up for themselves, wherever they go after passing the school. They will stand as individuals. They will stand up for their own selves and for others and will help them follow their dreams and goals. That's the beauty of Dead Poet Society. ❤
I used to be suicidal. It passed only this year, and the most influential thing in my life that made me less suicidal, believe it or not, was the Dead Poets Society. This film... is magic, it helped me through a lot. I love it, no matter how sad it is, I love it!
Your comment made me happy. I hope you’re still alive and are now thriving. I related to Neil in this movie so much in the past and this movie was really healing to process a lot of trauma. I’m so glad it made you less suicidal.
Me too. I’m in high school and my philosophy and literature teacher remind me of Mr. Keating. Because of them, I discovered myself. I’m so grateful for having them.
I had one teacher in 8th grade.. my history teacher… the best teacher I ever had.. listened to our problems with the school, treating us like humans, etc.) I wish I have another teacher as good as him
I had a teacher in 10th grade who instilled love for mathematics in me. Until then, I hated math and would just do it to gain marks. I visited her house before admission in my college. I will always remember her and will contact her. If you ever had such a teacher, you are lucky :)
This film taught me one lesson. That is that if I ever am lucky enough to have children of my own, to send them to a grate school and to give them every chance to succeed, to let them define their own version of success and happiness. This film left me with the urgent need to avoid projecting my own biases, hopes, dreams and version of success onto my kids. This film left me with the fervent desire to avoid living vicariously through my children. They are not sub units of me or their father. They will not live solely by my rules and values. They will have their own, be their own people, have their own standards and be who they want to be. They will learn from their own mistakes, and sometimes learn the hard way whats right and wrong, or why not to do something. My kids will decide for themselves who they will become. Because to have basically your entire life laid out for you by your parents because its what they believe is best, well I cant think of anything more depressing. It broke my heart to see the struggle that Neil had to face, between his father, imposing his value system on his son, wishing to see his son embody his own version of success, blinded by this to all other factors, including the pain his son was in. It broke my heart that the only out he saw in response to this was suicide and it broke me to see the effect this had on the boys parents, his friends and Mr Keating. we've all had that one or few excellent teachers, those who teach us to best our former selves, to think independently and critically, to define our own version of success. Those who tell us there is always a better way, always an alternative, that we always have the choice. We all wish we had a teacher like Mr Keating.
Yes, I hate parents who force their children to do things. Thankfully, my parents weren't like that. You see how Neil's dad and all the other elders are sort of bitter because they were not given the opportunities to develop their own ways and just use their authority to control the youth. It's a cycle that Keating is trying to break. Neil's dad didn't want to let Neil do what he wanted to, even at the beginning when he tells Neil to drop the annum, even though Neil loves that. If Neil's dad had told him to drop something and given him the choice, it would've been better for Neil because he could've chosen something he didn't really like doing. It's like the adults think kids can't think for themselves or make choices. Neil killed himself because in his mind, he saw his dad wasn't going to listen to him no matter what he said and thought foolishly that this was a way to defy his dad. Of course, his dad never takes the blame for this and the school doesn't tell him its his own fault. They had to pin it on someone that would please Mr. Perry. Only person was Mr. Keating, although he didn't tell Neil to kill himself. Also, Nuwanda got expelled for hitting Cameron, not because he didn't sign the paper.
I disagree, most young people have stupid dreams and passions, it is responsibility of parent to direct them into right path. Millenials are deep in debt cause they borrow 300k in student loans to pursue stupid music degrees, and then complain they can't find job.
@@edgehodl4832 I agree, but not in a way like Neil's situation from the movie. What I believe parents should consider when leading them to the right path, is to teach what can become of their interests and passion. The reason why some people are pursuing their passions and go in debt is because they think that having a career out of it will make them happy. Regardless if you can get a career out of it or not, if you're doing something out of love, simply doing it, like as a hobby, will make you happy.
hard truths delivered in powerful scenes... never cried so much in a movie, i miss Robin Williams... i guess hard truth also ended his life, may he rest in peace...
Someone please, please tell me how to live. I do not, when I die, wish to discover that I haven't lived at all. And I know now that I am not living. Merely existing. Surviving. I'm not particularly sad about anything, but I'm not particularly good at "sucking the marrow out of life"...
Nobody can tell you, you have to find it in you... challenge yourself to experience new things maybe. The more you experience, the more likely you find something that clicks for you, and if nothing does, at least at the end you'll have a lot of memories.
It's relative. To have lived an urban life, making a genuine human connection, is sometimes more euphoric than the cathartic visceral moments that a 'Live your Life' motivational video might show. If there ever was a task more challenging and ethereal than climbing the tallest mountains and traversing the greatest oceans, it would probably be: understanding the fullest depths of the meaning/connection we're able to make in any suburban life. The 'Living' part (be it through a Job, through Friends/Family, through Reading or Sport, through dragon-slaying, etc) has got to involve something of our actual consciousness. That isn't to say pursue a mundane life and feel visceral about it, but rather, at least be conscious in what you do, and do something outside of what you do right now (the easiest answer generally is that of a genuine human bond)
I hate stories like that. Men only think about the past right before their death...as if they were frantically searching for proof that they were alive.
I used to be the same way. there were several things that helped me romanticize and take hold of my life. First was leaving an unhealthy/bad situation i was in. I felt confined and once i escaped i started to grow and learn who i am. Mental illness can also get in the way of sucking the marrow out of life, so i told myself that there will be other days. It's okay if depression, anxiety, PTSD or what have you is not allowing you to live to your fullest extent. Just take care of yourself in those moments, they will pass, life is still waiting for you. I also started to have the optimistic nihilism so common in these times. I realized that nothing matters so fuck it, lets have some fun, lets love life to it's fullest extent. I started wearing weird clothes and dancing on rooftops. Now i climb trees, wear dresses, love with my whole being. I believe in you, romanticism is a journey, it takes self discovery and growth. I know you will get there eventually.
it took me six months to get over Neil's suicide...that's all I am saying...why is dead poets society so good indeed...simple, because it's a masterpiece...I watch it all the time over and over again and I always discover something new...I urge you to do the same...it's a perfect not to mantion educational piece or art...oh and I love how Cameron asks after the 'carpe diem ' scene about Keating' is he going to test us on that?' No , Cameron you can relax mate, Keating won't test on that...life will...yourself will...and that is what will hurt you the most...
I love the amount of quality you put into this video! I was looking for a good video analysing this film after seeing it for my third time and i found what I was looking for. This is great.
I just watched Dead Poets Society now and the movie touched me so much, as always I made my after-movie search and couldn't be happier to find your video. Thank you :)
Even though i have the VCD decades ago, I just watched it on tv till the end just now (due to the Covid 19 'curfew'). I knew it was a great movie but never thought it was sooo greatly inspiring. You learn a lot about finding who you really are deep down.... RIP Robin..
Dead Poets Society is one of my favorite movies of all time and i`m even more fond of it now that i do actually love poetry as well i was not a huge fan of poetry when i first watched this movie
I’m so grateful that we have an amazing history teacher. She’s just the best at motivating us to take part in her lessons while also challenging us. The fact that she relates to us students is what is truly special about her. You just cannot dislike her. She’s one of those people in my life that I’ll never forget because she taught us to think for ourselves and speak up when we have an idea. Whenever you got it right, she’ll compliment you and say “that’s awesome”. That way you start getting excited about what’s to come. I believe that she is one of the few teachers that actually care about each one of us. Thank you❣️
I often rewatch this movie and even though the inspiration of existentialism Carpe Diem, seizing the day and we human need poems and plays and love to become complete seem so cliché, the movie makes me remind the masterpiece Les Choristes -also perfome the same theme. I think now the youth can and need to try to obtain both of them, become realist and romantic. We may experience the conflict as it's always here to stay, but as i always remind myself. I dont need to choose whether to leave the essence of my life and the passion or the expectation of achivements of someone else. Two road diverge into different ways, I always choose the right way. Just dont give up on life and get suicide.
I saw this 30yrs ago and am watching it now and it's lost none of its power to move, to get u involved in their daily struggles of youth, girls and parental acceptance but more so wanting his parents to actually be aware of him as an individual and see that he's not going to follow the same old route set down by dad and all who've gone before on the route to lawyer dom or doctor dom!!! Thanx to Mr. Keating for opening his unseeing eyes and make him maybe seize the day!!
Filmed in Middletown DE, the Everett Theatre still shows movies from time to time. My parents tell me how they stood on the other side of the street and watched Robin Williams film his scene there. It’s interesting watching this fantastic movie and seeing these areas that I drive through every single day.
I came here like 2 mins after watching the movie and I just want to say ... this movie inspired me ,touched me in a way no other movie today did . I cried through the entire finale
I have watched this movie every year on the anniversary of robins passing it is my favourite dramatic roll of his he is incredible in it it is an amazing movie and makes me cry we miss you Robin
you do wonderful analyzes, I really mean it when I say it, and I would very much like to ask you to continue with your work, it is very useful and high quality, don't give up!
Wow you just blew my mind. At 2:30 am ........... I thank you. God bless you, wish nothing but the best for you I just realized movies have so much more.... it’s sender and receiver creative show. It takes two to work, the creator showing us what went on inside of their minds and us who analyze it and interpret it in our own unique understanding of the world. Wow life is great. Don’t take it for granted.
AM i the only one that think Neil's father wanted him to stand for what he wants? There's a glimpse of that when he waits and asks if he, Neil, has something to say. He leaves kind disappointed
_meronpan 91 The problem was, he knew his father wouldn’t listen. Niel wouldn’t have hesitated if he knew his father would take in consideration on what he likes. So instead of getting declined or rejected by his father, he’d rather not take the opportunity to ask as it would hurt him even more.
I wonder if Todd and the others did get expelled for that. Probably not. I think Nolan was trying to scare them with the throwing out line if they outburst again.
I watched the movie. I'm very late to the club but I'm glad that i finally watched it. was expecting ending to be more happier but it wasn't. i always feel so raged when someone just doesn't do anything because if fear from parents and teachers and anyone who cannot harm you. in my whole life my parents always told me to do what i want but the sad thing is i myself don't what i want. carpe diem.
Dead Poets Society is set in 1959. We know how the 60s will significantly differ in some aesthetic and cultural ways, even though the likes of 60s architecture has some of its genesis in 1920s modernism. We know that these clever, lively, young men still had a sense of propriety that some students of some subsequent decades in a burgeoning, postmodernist, education system might have felt to be somewhat 'square', just like most of the teachers there are (yes, somewhat simplistically for movie purposes) regarded as formidably dictatorial. Dead Poets Society sees the death of not just Neil but also of the 1950s. The carefully planned tradition and comfortable journey in to the professions carved for Neil by his father lies in dead dreams. Neil's father isn't a monster - he's a disciplined man of principle who himself also becomes a victim of the new age - the birth of the 60s.
I don `t know how often I have seen this movie, that I love so much. Today, recognizing for the first time while looking your nice analysis that in fact Neal and Charlie were the first two pupils standing up from their places (1:25...) and climbing up on the desk of Keating, was really a shock! Maybe it is by coincedence and even Peter Weir hasn`t planned it out this way, neverthless it is some kind of tragic and makes me sad. On the other hand, it shows that both of them, together with Keating himself are standing for the archetyp of sacrifice, which Neil obviously chosen with the symbol of Jesus Christ : the crowns of thorns! Some sort of a "sacred action" the three of them made for the boy whom later was standing first (last in the scene they learned about it) on his desk, when the Captain has to leave school : Todd!! Another chilling fact in this scene at the end is, that at last 10 pupils were standing on their desks for Mr. Keating... together with Neil and Charlie they would be 12.... like Jesus Christ and his disciples. Never catched this before - now I am in peace, even with the suicide of Robin Williams. Also remembers me of the film "Life of David Gale", which has the same subject I believe. Self-sacrifice for a better life of others regarding to a greater ideal for humanity. Surely it`s some kind of romantic view, sorry - but I am a Poet, guys! ;-)) ( I hope my weird english is understandible for you...?)
I j u s t finished that movie and oh my god. I was so fricken mad through like half of it. The ending was amazing but I was like “why aren’t you standing up for yourself?! That’s what he’s teaching you!”
