Why Did Frankie Turn On Nicky? | Casino (1995) Explained | The REAL Reason... 

“…and a lotta other things”

There's no scraps in my scrapbook.

Lol

@@stefanfilipovits21 your a bunch of funny guys lol (Henrys nervous Laugh) ..my bros go Utube : are you a good person by living waters

"Keep him here. Keep that mfkr here"

He compromised

Nicky was nothing more than a glorified capo

Agreed

20 Fucking Years as the Shah of Iran

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Ahah I just commented this same thing pretty much before I saw yours 😅

If Frank was half the man Phil was, he would’ve made do with what he had.

@@coleozaeta6344 There are no scraps in Phil's scrapbook for Frank.

I was looking for this comment.

Remo Gaggi ordered the hit because niki decided to started doing his own thing. Remo's the boss.

The real life Nicky actually wanted to kill Frankie at the end…the cops showed him a tape where Nicky wants to put a hit on Frankie

@@gluttonykills It was literally everything of all the countless things Nicky did to seal his own fate and his younger brother's. It was the combination of Nicky getting himself banned and blacklisted from every casino in Las Vegas, including the Tangiers casino he was sent to Las Vegas to protect alongside Ace, his childhood best friend next to Frankie and business partner in the mob, Nicky bringing down unwanted heat from the Las Vegas police and the F.B.I. with all the unauthorized, unsanctioned jewelry store heists committed by Nicky and his crew aka The Hole-in-the-wall gang in Vegas, the gangland hits and murders committed on the streets of Las Vegas by Nicky himself personally, Nicky and his gang or hired professional hitmen hired by Nicky on the streets of Las Vegas to kill his targets and enemies or those that crossed Nicky and his crew. Nicky's forbidden, suicidal romantic sexual love affair with Ginger, Ace's (his best friend and business associate's) wife, Nicky's plot to try and take over the entire Chicago Outfit, go after/rub out Remo Gaggi, as the head boss of the Outfit, for control and lead position of the Outfit as well as go after the mob's Casino empire and skimming operation in Las Vegas, plus Nicky's unsanctioned, unwanted car bombing assassination attempt on Ace at the end to silence his former childhood close friend and business partner from telling the bosses back home about Nicky's affair with his gold digging coke whore wife, which the bosses already knew about.

@@donchi1234 Yup. In real life Frank Cullotta wasn't involved in the double execution hit and fatal gang beating of Tony and Michael Spilotro because Frankie already entered the witness protection program and became an F.B.I. informant and government witness for survival and protection because Tony the Ant tried to have his former lieutenant and second in command killed but Tony's hired gun assassins shot the wrong target. Frankie's neighbor.

Nicky's crew and Boss Remo Gaggi's two elderly pro mafia hitmen, made men, enforcers and high ranking La Cosa Nostra soldiers killed the Santoro brothers brutally, gruesomely and mercilessly because the Chicago Outfit bosses ordered Nicky's former crew and their veteran mafioso assassins to make Nicky and Dominick Santoro suffer and torture them to death to make an example out of both Nicky and his younger brother and punish Nicky far more severely in his final moments as a message and the final retaliation for Nicky helping to destroy the mob's paradise in Las Vegas as well as their casino empire and skimming operation in Vegas. If left to the decision of Frankie and the other wiseguys in Nicky's crew alone, I believe Nicky's crew would've simply shot the Santoro brothers execution style easily and quickly. It was kill or be killed. The five hitmen in the cornfield double gang beating and execution were a combination of Frankie, being closest to Nicky as Nicky's former close friend next to Ace, right hand man and partner in crime in the Chicago Outfit and second in command of their crew in Vegas, and the bosses ordered Frankie to lead the baseball bat gang beating and double execution hit personally in exchange for clemency for lying to Remo Gaggi about Nicky's affair with Ginger to protect Nicky, the two low-level wiseguys, street hood connected mob associates and pro jewelry thieves in Nicky's then disbanded Hole-in-the-wall burglary ring crew in Las Vegas he originally recruited from back home in Chicago to join Nicky's crew, Jack Hardy and Sal Fusco, with another mob associate and expert safe cracker named Bernie Blue having been a member of Nicky's crew that was gunned down by trigger happy cowboy cops/detectives early on and the bosses sent two of Remo's elderly mafia assassins and made enforcers from the Outfit named Beeper and Fat Sally to supervise the double execution hit and oversee the beating and execution of the Santoro brothers went as ordered and as the bosses ordered it to be carried out as well as assist Nicky's crew in beating Nicky and Dominick to death and burying them alive. It was kill or be killed. Easy as that.

Despite how horrible he and his brother were in the film and in real life, it might be the thought of neither being able to help the other and the accurate sound of the bats hitting their bodies is enough to make you happy it wasn't you

@@sammysam2615☝️ Hit the nail on the head!

It really is very brutal even for a gangster film. But I'm not sure if Scorsese wanted us to pity Nicky. It seems to me he wanted us to rejoice that the bad guy finally had it coming after he scared the crap out of us for 3 hours straight lol.

Charley "Fuckin" M

That's not Scorsese making you feel pity. That's Joey P

It is really “immersive,” isn’t it? Never thought of Casino’s power quite like that before…

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He wanted to use a wood bat; but he compromised - he used an aluminum bat instead.

It is said he ate grilled cheese of their asses in the afternoon sun before burying them. You get a pass for that in prison.

I was going to binge-watch the Sopranos but I comprised, I re-watched casino for the millionth time.

I still think The Last Temptation Of Christ is Scorsese’s best overall movie (and u can tell it was really personal for him too) but I totally get it. The man knows how to make a movie like no one else. Taxi Driver, Mean Streets, Last Temptation, Goodfellas, Casino, The Aviator, even Gangs Of New York. What a career!

Agreed, it’s editing is amazing and it has such a rich energy about it.

I couldn't agree more I watch it all the time and I still enjoy it

Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy

Casino is my favorate because its like a tragic play with the heat and excitement of vegas! XD

well said,it still happens everyday

I think you’ve described it personally. The bosses will have told them to kill Nicky but they could it their way, so they did. But even for a mob hit his death was brutal( I know it was in a basement) but he was still beaten to death and that takes ages and a lot of blunt force trauma. A real message fir other rogue soldiers with ambitions

@@oliverhunter9495 Yeah, the real life Nicky Santoro - Anthony Spilotro and his brother Michael were slowly beaten to death. That shows a lot of personal anger, in my opinion. So it's both business and personal.

Well put.l always wondered why they turned so vicious it's because of those reasons.

Plus Nicky was so whacked out on coke just made him more nutts..not thinking straight

The script said Dominick's "limp, barely conscious body", so he was still alive after those two last blows. Even Ace said they buried them "while they were still breathing".

They’re loosely based on real monsters and the real two brothers were beaten yet left breathing to be buried alive. Very accurate to the real event

@@degacci false. The real brothers were beaten to death. There's no evidence they were buried alive. The coroner even said "there's no dirt in the lungs or anything that would indicate they were alive when buried"

Actually while watching now Frankie busts Nicky's head wide open after they through Dominic in the pit

@@frankie3791 Yeah. I see that now. But they could've finished it way quicker with just a couple of hits.

Нет Доминика били по голове. Во время этого действия показывают скорбящего Ники. Но отчетливо слышно как во время последних ударов у Доминика вытекает мозги.

It was really just the whole lethal combination of everything did. As I've said and others before and after myself. The bosses ordered Nicky and Dominick Santoro/Tony and Michael Spilotro to be whacked due to Nicky/Tony the Ant getting himself banned and blacklisted from every casino in Las Vegas, including the Tangiers casino he was sent to Las Vegas to protect alongside Ace/Lefty, his childhood best friend and business partner in the mob aside from Frankie, Nicky bringing down unwanted heat from the police in Las Vegas combined with the F.B.I. due to the unauthorized, unsanctioned jewelry store heists and gangland murders committed by Nicky and his crew or hired pro hitmen on the streets of Vegas, Nicky's/Tony's affair with Ginger/Gerri, Nicky's plot to try and take over the Outfit, the entire casino empire and skimming operation in Las Vegas plus whack Gaggi, and the last straw being the unauthorized, unwanted car bombing assassination attempt on Ace/Lefty, who was considered untouchable, despite being a Jewish associate, as the mob's golden goose. Nicky's crew had enough of Nicky as well. Nicky's crew had anger and resentment towards Nicky for destroying their Vegas paradise, Frankie personally had more rage and resentment towards Nicky because Frankie lied to Gaggi, the head boss of the Chicago Outfit bosses, which could've gotten Frankie killed too, Nicky's gang had enough of doing Nicky's dirty work and risking their lives for Nicky plus Nicky skipped town when the F.B.I. raided the skimming operation in the casino as well as Nicky's jewelry store business front and Nicky's crew did jail time, including Dominick.

Frank Marino released all of his pent up anger, hatred and resentment towards Nicky, his once close friend and partner in crime, here, but the Chicago Outfit bosses, led by Don Remo Gaggi/Joey Doves Aippua, ordered Nicky's former crew and their two hitmen to kill Nicky and Dominick brutally and mercilessly to make an example of the Santoro brothers and make Nicky suffer more in vengeance for Nicky/Tony destroying the Outfit's paradise in Las Vegas and their casino skimming operation. If it was left up to Nicky's crew alone on their own decision, I believe Frankie, Hardy and Fusco simply would've shot Nicky and Dominick execution style quickly and easily. It was kill or be killed. The bosses ordered Frankie to lead the baseball bat gang beating and double execution of Nicky and Dominick Santoro as Nicky's former right hand man and partner in crime plus childhood close friend next to Ace, and as clemency from the Outfit for lying to Remo. The five hitmen were the three former members of Nicky's burglary ring crew in Las Vegas/the Hole-in-the-wall gang, Frankie, and the two low-level wiseguys, street-level mob associates and safe cracking expert jewelry thieves Nicky originally recruited from back home in Chicago to join Nicky's crew in Vegas alongside himself, Frankie and Dominick, Jack Hardy and Sal Fusco, and there was another mob associate and pro jewelry heist safe cracker named Bernie Blue but he was gunned down earlier in the movie by cowboy cops for being part of Nicky's crew. Plus two of Gaggi's elderly La Cosa Nostra hitmen and made enforcers from the Chicago Outfit named Fat Sally and Beeper. (Based on Frank the German.) The Outfit bosses sent Beeper and Fat Sally alongside Nicky's crew to supervise and oversee orders were followed as ordered by the bosses.

If it was left up to the personal choice and decision of Frankie alone, or the other two low-level wiseguy associates from Nicky's Hole-in-the-wall burglary ring gang, they would've simply shot the Santoro brothers execution style easily and painlessly. But the Chicago Outfit bosses ordered Nicky and Dominick Santoro/Tony and Michael Spilotro to be brutally beaten to a bloody pulp and buried half alive to make an example of them both personally. So, the five Outfit hitmen composed of the former members of Nicky's Hole-in-the-wall gang from Vegas and Gaggi's hitmen, had to follow the orders.

One of my favorite lines... which I use regularly! (Not for wacking anyone mind!) Also that line was said in relation to the non Italian lawyer (name eludes me)

@@chubbster1969, Andy Stone?

@@valuecalc .... the very same! Thank you!

@@chubbster1969, not Italian with that name! But he still got whacked.

@@valuecalc he did nothing wrong.. was a stand up kid

Yes Frank was under CONSTANT duress underneath Nicky. Probably thought he was gonna die for years

I mean, the way I see it - why take a chance?

I love casino as much as Goodfellas, a great movie

Right. Frankie expressed silent genuine remorse and sadness. But he had no choice but to kill Nicky and Dominick Santoro as ordered by the bosses of the Chicago Outfit or die alongside Nicky and his brother. If it was left up to the personal choice and decision of Frankie and the other wiseguys in Nicky's crew alone, I believe Nicky's former crew would've just shot the Santoro brothers execution style easily and painlessly. The bosses ordered Nicky and Dominick to suffer and be tortured to death to make an example of the Santoro brothers and send a message. Frankie led the double hit execution personally as ordered because he was closest to Nicky as Nicky's once close friend since childhood, aside from Ace, and Nicky's right hand man and partner in crime plus as clemency from the bosses because Marino lied to Gaggi, the head boss of the Chicago Outfit, about Nicky's affair with Ginger. It was kill or be killed alongside them.

Frank Marino, based on Frank "Frankie " Cullotta in real life, was once a close friend to Nicky Santoro, as Frank Cullotta and Tony Spilotro were, and Nicky's right hand man in the Chicago Outfit and second in command of their renegade burglary ring heist crew, the Hole-in-the-wall gang, in Las Vegas, but over the years Frankie and the other wiseguys and low level street hood associates in Nicky's crew developed a lot of anger, hatred and resentment towards Nicky for destroying the mob's paradise in Las Vegas and the Outfit's casino empire and skimming operation with the unauthorized jewelry heists, gangland hits Nicky and his gang committed or Nicky ordered, Frankie personally had rage and resentment towards Nicky because Frankie felt forced to lie about the sexual affair between Nicky and Ginger, which could've gotten Frankie killed too. Nicky's crew had enough of doing his dirty work and risking their lives for Nicky. Enough was enough. If Nicky's crew had their own choice I believe they would have simply shot the Santoro brothers. The Chicago Outfit bosses sent five assassins to execute Nicky and Dominick in the cornfield meeting Nicky set up, including Nicky's crew, Frankie himself, the two low-level wiseguys, street thugs, pro jewelry thieves and connected mafioso associates Nicky originally recruited from back home in Chicago to join Nicky's crew in Las Vegas, Sal Fusco and Jack Hardy, and two of Remo's elderly pro mafia hitmen, made enforcers and soldiers in the Outfit, Fat Sally and Beeper. Beeper the hitman was based on Frank the German. The bosses ordered Frankie to lead the baseball bat gang beating on Nicky and Dominick and sent Beeper and Fat Sally to assist Nicky's ex-gang members and supervise the double gang beating and execution of Nicky and his brother. Frankie had no choice. In real life Frank Cullotta wasn't involved in the double execution and fatal beating of the Spilotro brothers because Frankie entered the witness protection program and became an F.B.I. informant after Tony put out a contract on his former lieutenant.

@@castortroy1727 Frankie had no remorse at all. He looking back to be sure Nicky was watching while he killed Dominick as a taunting move, shouting “tough guys huh”. Frankie was GLAD to be killing them

@@frankdees507 Imho I disagree. Was more rage than glee.

@@frankdees507 As I said, by the end Frankie Marino was no longer Nicky Santoro's once close childhood friend, business partner in crime and right hand man as Marino once was in the beginning because Frankie had no choice but to either betray and kill Nicky and Dominick Santoro or die alongside the Santoro brothers himself alongside the other wiseguys and former members of Nicky's crew, the Hole-in-the-wall gang, in Las Vegas, Jack Hardy and Sal Fusco who were the two of three low-level street thugs, wiseguys and connected Outfit associates and pro jewelry thieves and stick-up artists Nicky/Tony Spilotro originally recruited to join Nicky's/Tony's crew in Vegas, the third being the late Bernie Blue, and two of Remo's elderly mafia hitmen, made enforcers and soldiers from the Outfit, Beeper, based on Frank the German and Fat Sally were sent to supervise and oversee the double execution hit went down as ordered by the Chicago Outfit and Midwest Kansas city mafia bosses led by Don Remo Gaggi, who was based on Joey Doves Aippua. It was literally kill or be killed. If it was left up to the decision of Frankie and the other former members of Nicky's crew alone I believe Nicky's former henchmen and said friends would've simply shot the Santoro brothers execution style. The bosses ordered Nicky's former crew and their pro La Cosa Nostra assassins to make them suffer to make an example of the Santoro brothers.

He has no choice so he decided to brutally beat him and his brother and them bury them alive

Pesci also beat Vincent's character's ass in Raging Bull 😂

Me too. some really good scenes in that movie, like between Niki and Charlie the banker at Ace's house, and the scene between Ace, and the County Commissioner trying to get his brother in laws job back, and many more. A masterpiece.

Woah - Shah of Iran ova here!

Yeah, the real life execution of Nicky aka Tony Spillotro might be even more brutal. The way they didn’t even let him pray after he asked, stomped on him, and broke his bones is brutal when you read the report.

It was real grease ball sh*t amongst the italians there was nothing we could do.......

A bit like the Clintons who regularly kill off their own

It’s true, by the end they had quite a few reasons to wack Nicky and his real life counterpoint. Including his obnoxiously high profile.

Affairs cause more trouble than they're worth in your org. Better stamp it out early.

Better off with Remo?? Remo was the fu*cking boss what are you talking about?? Nikki wanted to take over Vegas not the whole family. He thought he could start his own family out there. Everyone knew how much of a hot head he was. No way in hell he's going to betray th old bosses back in the Midwest.

@@wadewilson8011 that was my point

@@themightyatom1031 no you made it seem like Franky actually had a CHOICE between Remo and Nikki. There was no better off about it. The Boss is the Boss. Franky had absolutely NO choice.

Smartin up

hey why the boss in nyc made that order to franky?...

Easy choice your superiors or your degenerate friend. and don't tell it was a hard choice we're talking about a cold blooded killer who wacked another cold blooded killer

bro go Utube - are you a good person by living waters

@@Mike-zy8in no ones a good person everyones a sinner

@@bigsmoke7381 my mistake bro the name of the video is titled - are you a good person and the author of the video is Living Waters

@@bigsmoke7381 you're damn right I'm not a good person, to live in this s*** world every single day and have to live with scumbags every single day ? you're damn right I'm going to turn evil.

Agreed. Frank Marino showed true, genuine remorse and regret on his face as the five Outfit hitmen buried the Santoro brothers alive as Nicky and Dominick Santoro were still dying from their wounds and injuries from the beating. But in the end for Nicky's former crew, including Frankie and the other two wiseguys and street-level mafia associates from Nicky's crew, the Hole-in-the-wall gang, Jack Hardy and Sal Fusco, it was either turn on Nicky and whack both Nicky and his brother or die alongside Nicky and Dominick. The bosses sent two of Remo Gaggi's elderly mafioso pro hitmen and made enforcers from the Chicago Outfit, Beeper and Fat Sally, to assist Nicky's ex-gang members and lower ranking henchmen in his crew in double execution hit and gang beating and to supervise and oversee the double execution hit went down as ordered by the bosses.

@bcimb1 I grew up in Chgo. One of the Spilatro Bros. went to my HS. On the NW side. At least for awhile. But it was years before me in 1970. Hugh Hefner also an alumni. I think the Spilatro Bros. hung around in a suburb near O'Hare airport. Franklin Pk or Elmwood Park. Always heard bits of info about them throughout my childhood.

The real thing was worse then the movie

The Outfit's real target was Tony's brother, but he was marked for death too in order to prevent a revenge attack. And guess who identified the bodies by their dental records? It was their brother, a dentist by profession.

They were buried in a cornfield in Indiana

100% wrong

Right. It was the bosses of the Chicago Outfit that ordered Frankie to whack Nicky and Dominick Santoro both, as Nicky's former close friend and right hand man/partner in crime and as clemency for lying to Remo Gaggi, the head boss of the Chicago Outfit, about Nicky's affair with Ginger. Frankie was a soldier acting on orders. He had no choice but to either kill Nicky and his brother or die alongside Nicky and Dominick.

I agree with this!

Remo Gaggi always knew that Frankie was lying to his face about Nicky's affair with Ginger to protect Nicky. Being Nicky's childhood close friend, next to Ace, right hand man and partner in crime in the Chicago Outfit and second in command of their crew, the Hole-in-the-wall gang. The bosses ordered Frankie to lead the baseball bat gang beating and double execution of Nicky and Dominick Santoro at the end personally as clemency from the bosses for lying to Gaggi, to prove Frankie's loyalty was pledged to the Chicago Outfit and not Nicky, and being the hood in Nicky's crew closest to him aside from his brother.

Same

I really really enjoy casino, but there’s an energy and pacing to goodfellas that makes it slightly better than casino for me.

same here

Blasphemy 😝

Same here

my bro i had completly forgot the bosses didnt know about the gold rush...bro go Utube - are you a good person by living waters

Wouldn't surprise me. Thing about Frankie was he was rightfully loyal to the game, not the players aside from himself. Frank Marino was once Nicky's childhood close friend next to Ace, right hand man and partner in crime, but over the years Frankie and the other two low-level wiseguys and connected mob associates in Nicky's crew, Jack Hardy and Sal Fusco, the two expert safe crackers and jewelry thieves in Nicky's crew that Nicky recruited from back home in Chicago as connected low ranking associates of the Outfit to join Nicky's crew in Las Vegas, developed anger and resentment towards Nicky because Nicky helped destroy the mob's paradise and casino empire in Las Vegas, Frankie felt forced to lie to Remo Gaggi, the head boss of the Chicago Outfit, face to face about Nicky's forbidden romantic/sexual love affair with Ginger, Ace's (his best friend and business partner's) wife and this could've gotten Frankie killed too. In the end Frankie had no choice but to either turn on Nicky and whack both Nicky and Dominick Santoro or die too. Along with the Hardy and Fusco as well. The bosses sent two of Remo's elderly mafia hitmen and made enforcers from the Chicago Outfit, Beeper and Fat Sally, to assist in the double execution hit and gang beating and supervise and oversee the double execution went as ordered by the bosses.

An italian with a rabbi? Sure…

@@MrAngry3232 In this context Rabbi is the individual who vouches for you and under who's purview you fall. Think of it as a type of sponsorship.

Tony Accardo didn't go to prison. The tradition is to send someone to get you that's close to you; it's less suspicious. If Frank was sent to get Nicky, it was because he would've been spooked by anyone else coming for him. Also, if Frank didn't do it...there'd be 3 bodies in that hole.

​​@@Bewbscueser he's to stupid to understand that construct...what do you think about all these mobsters that now have RU-vid channels... just wanted to get your thoughts because you grew up around the LIFE

You talk to much

He also did 20 years in the can

@@sebasdurden9274 And that motherfucking animal took six bullets in a kid without any provocation or whatsoever...they are nothing but a glorified crew.

@@sebasdurden9274 He compromised in a can

He also played a house in sopranos can't forget that

But Nicky said “please leave him alone” no mercy kill plus Ace said they were buried alive

@@toosweet6046 leave him alone in a sense "don't cause him more pain - just kill him" I don't know.... That's my opinion

Brilliant. I have seen that movie a dozen times and never noticed that. Thank you!

"Leave the kid alone he's still breathing" was the line. He didn't want his brother to die

@@mowriter nah. Nicky was cosa nostra. He knew they are both finished. He knew they're going to die. I think he was asking for a quick death for his brother. Real life Tony Spilotro was given time to prey-he knew they are going to die.

😂 "You been away a long time tho. Maybe they didn't tell you. No more shiners".

Frank Stale? It happened rite near where I live

@@Dingoplexor Stillitano yeah.

@@tehf00n yes I know his son

Poor Poor Sammi.......

Nobody forced Sammy to do shit. Sorry but I'm not murdering my friends no matter the consequences. People like Sammy are always playing the victim

I've loved this film since the first time I saw it; Stone SHOULD have won an Oscar for her psrformance...

From what I recall he wasn’t overwhelmed by HEAT, which is in my top five, maybe no1 on the right day

Even though it’s a more recent film, I absolutely loved Scorsese’s take on the Irish mafia in The Departed. My only gripe with it is that it was supposed to be (loosely) based on Whitey Bulger and The Winter Hill Gang but it’s really nothing like Bulger’s actual life. They should’ve just left the “based on” part out of it. Speaking of Bulger, I really enjoyed Black Mass with Johnny Depp portraying Bulger. It’s a really dark movie but I think it’s excellent and I love Depp’s portrayal. Thanks to Blow, he has the Bostonian accent down lol.

all pro film critics suck and are elitists.....sorry judge movies for yourself, not based on the words of fools....and anyone who hates everything but 2 movies should not be talking about movies at all!

He liked two films in 20 years? Must be a blast at parties

That's right.

Most of what you said was close to verbatim what was said in the video.... But good theory? I guess, lol

We got a wise guy here

My brother was not involved in the murders the brothers he cooperated because he heard the tape of Tony talking to Joe about cleaning up his dirty laundry

Cullotta was in prison when Spilotro was killed, and in fact had testified against him 3 years before, so his mob days were long over by then. You sort of answered your own question. Of course he wasn't involved.

Pacino breaks my heart at the end. Every time.

It's rated correctly. It's regarded as a great film

fagetaboutit.

You analysis is exactly what happened.

Frankie was in fact Remo's man in Las Vegas, not just Nicky's soldier! So F. vincent loyalty was always to his boss in New York City, and not to a simple liar, greedy, disloyal, violent, loose cannon idiot like santoro that even in a so unfair way it had already put some associates of the mobs in nevada and the midwest in various legal troubles and risks unnecessarily.....

Rothstein was a rat the whole time in real life.......working with the feds all along

Well said. Yeah, I think Frankie had a real problem with how much of a loose cannon Nicky was and how dishonorable he was. Even though he was a mobster, he probably felt like that was no excuse to act like an animal and that you could still try to do things with a touch of class and style, and even a warped kind of ethics. I think he enjoyed finally paying Nicky back for years of gratuitously terrorizing people who didn't deserve it.

It like part 2 in my head….

How'd Frank get away from his bosses if they found out he was testifying against Tony?

@@k-dogg9086 Tony tried to have Frank killed but the hit man shot a gun at the wrong house. The shooter was shooting at Frank Collota's next door neighbor. Minutes later Tony called Frank's house to see if he was still alive. Frank put two and two together and realized his life was in danger. That's when Frank decided to go to the Fed's and seek protection in exchange for his testimony

@@thoughtfinder oh OK 👍

That was kinda unnerving that he narrated the entire thing from seemingly beyond the grave. In the opening when he says they had it and fucked it all up, I realized he was actually telling the story after being killed. ☠️☠️☠️

i like it, nicky’s narration cuts right off when he gets hits, even nicky in the narration didnt know what was going to happened. lol.

@@dalton5903 Who wants to be close to and work with someone like Nicky??? An arrogant pr*ck, an unstable bully, a violent hothead sociopath that stresses others out and gets himself and those round him into trouble all the time with his antics and ego??? Plus the fact that he's drinking too much by the end of the movie, sleeping with another man's wife, putting an unauthorised hit on that man, setting up side ventures and getting heat towards himself and the rest by getting sloppy, and is coked out of his mind by the end of the film as well??? Then basically what he planned was to turn rogue and try to usurp the whole operation, yet rocking the boat in the end bc of his own greed lust screw-ups and betrayal??? They whacked him for it all! No one likes these self appointed tough guys who think they're unrivaled and untouchable and too that you can't reason with nor work with such meaheads.. so they get what they deserve as we see in Goodfellas & Casino. For Frankie it was both business and personal, just following orders: monsters taking out other monsters. You live by the sword, by the sword you'll perish.. that's just how it goes. And yeah, Ace's wife was damn annoying! I prefer "A Bronx Tale."

Interesting that Remo let him get away with that.

@@robertbusek30I think that he respected Frankie because he was no rat

Yet the gang so did so without him but he must have given the orders from Remo himself. As what I've read here, this two were murdered in a suburban house in Chicago owned by one of them, lured in by promise of being promoted, and literally beaten to death with hand and foot. Then taken to some corn field in rural Illinois for burial. It was a shallow grave and the farmer seen a hand sticking out and called the police. The one that done the autopsy on both was their very own brother who was a dentist doing the dental analysis part of the investigation with the coroner. If these comments are accurate as they read about them online then it was actually better than what the movie showed. But be that as it may, it just goes to show that if you live by the sword you'll perish by the sword. That's what Jesus Christ says. If someone sheds blood, his own blood will be shed.. that's the way it is.

You totally can. Just before he takes his last swing on Nicky, you can read just a hint of remorse on his face. You can practically hear him thinking “it didn’t have to be this way”.

Agreed. But I always felt despite him looking remorseful, he had the look of relief at the same time. And maybe that relief was knowing he was saving his own ass from the same fate considering he knew Nicky would do the same to him

@@sammysam2615 I can see that too, also had that looklike his hand was forced, which he had no choice obviously cuz he’d be in that pit too

the sacred and the propane

That's right. Frankie had absolutely no choice but to kill Nicky and Dominick Santoro or die too. Frankie, the other two former members of Nicky's crew in Las Vegas, Sal Fusco and Jack Hardy plus Remo's elderly mafioso hitmen were acting on orders. The bosses ordered Nicky and Dominick to die slowly and suffer to send a message and make an example of both of them.

FWIW, there's an interview with Larry Mazza, former member of the Colombo family, and he mentions at one point another mobster who didn't enjoy hits; that they made him angry. Something to the effect, "You broke the rules and now I have to do this horrible thing and I'm pissed." Sorry, I can't find the exact one right off hand, but that was the gist of what he said.

OK, they're the bosses, but if Nicky was doing side jobs for himself why did the bosses get pissed? Was it bc they'd think his money was theirs too?? He was doing the work, not them.. not did they order him to do it for them.

@@marka4891 but Nick Frank etc was all hit men.. leg breakers.. soldiers. That was their jobs. They weren't managers nor (lower) racketeers as Ace was. They was lower than that. Though they all were called made men or "wise guys." Every one starts at the bottom to prove something to whom they work for. So this "Oh I'm pissed that I have to do me job so it's your fault that I have to" don't make sense. There's no friends in bs like that, just as there are no atheists in the fox holes. He did it bc if not, he'd be whacked himself. He was in Nick's gang he'd, but he didn't work for Nick he worked for Remo.

@@k-dogg9086 When you are in the mob everything you make you have to kick up some to the bosses. There is no making money on the side or you can get whacked for holding out. You belong to the mob when you get made that's the rules.

@@docmason9677 like a corporation then.. but of crime. 👍

I wanted to shoot Nicky in the head, I compromised... and beat him with a bat

You wanted me to shoot them. I didn't have a gun. I compromised. I bashed their skulls in with a bat.

I would agree except for the opening shot of casino showed deniro being blown up and that kinda devalued the film for me, imo. you're showing me the end of the film at the beginning?

@@blest5132 yeah I understand. It was a weird scene. I wish they started it a bit better. And you can clearly see the change from Robert de Niro to the dummy lmao

@@joshflynn2173 yeah, that too 😂

Sharon stone. He had to lie to remo about that. Not good.

Yup, as Frank was on parole in real life during the killings.

Technically they were beaten to death in a basement in Illinois and then dumped in the corn field.

Yeah and the real Frankie didn't help them kill him

Somehow, the real life murder was even worse. That scene is brutal.

It's tough. The sounds of the bats and knowing that in real life even though they died in a basement, there was nothing neither could do to help the other was sickening yet was always a possibility in that life. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. RIP Frank Cullotta