Apparently, the secret service spotted him an hour earlier in the crowd with his scope and his backpack, but lost sight of him. Also, apparently, Trump changed things when he was in office so that ex CIA people could be employed freelance and would get paid twice as much. Consequently, all the young highly trained CIA left and got re employed ad hoc on a higher rate. It doesn't pay well to be employed in the American Secret Service.
i know this question is unrelated to the youtube video but i have a burning question related to your "Avoid THIS Trap When Pulled Over" if you cant produce proof of MOT on your car can you use the government website to prove you have MOT, the one where you enter your REG and it tells you, typically used for when buying new cars
Wait guys! An hour before the shooting, the Secret Service had identified this person as suspicious. Then they observed he had a backpack and a rangefinder and he was scoping the event. They then identified this individual as a threat. Attendees at the rally told local police that a person had crawled up on the roof and was on his belly making his way towards the pitch. How much more could you possibly need? Were they waiting for a body on the ground before they reacted because that’s what they got. Due to whatever reasons, this was gross incompetence and negligence. The head of the Secret Service is focused on DEI, which caused an individual his life, put two people in the hospital with critical injuries and almost took the life of a former president.
Parameter secured, then an invisible man gets a ladder, also invisible, climbs upon the roof, invisibly takes time to set up his rifle, and when he shoots becomes visible in order to be shot dead
The secret service has gone on record to state that secret service snipers are trained to assess and neutralize any threat without the need for instructions or clearance from their superiors.
So? It is your life at that moment. Your family, mortgage, reputation... Turns out its a prank or a person who was there to "protect" Trump too. Get it wrong, no one has your back.
Supposedly the pair of USSS you see in a lot of clips were spotting for a further range. And the building which he shot at Trump from was much closer and was under the responsibility of local law enforcement to secure. Hence the surprise as he adjusts his view down and closer.
@@DoncasterLass I watched a video on this, basically, the AR15 had a crap sight fitted too far down the barrel. When the poster got that gun, with that sight, the red dot covered most of the head, so not the best set up for an assassination. Thank goodness!
My favourite part is how they said a sniper couldn't be put on that roof because "it was sloped" but the sniper who took him out was ON A SLOPED ROOF! Can't make this stuff up.
Also the was a photo of 3 guys stood over the guy after the event... who were stood there on the roof quite easily, no threat of sliding down or even having to lean to stand still.
The argument should cease at the point of reality, but it does not because a story woven in which people follow and engage in, give their own opinions, etc. The boundary of the area would have been sealed off, agents themselves present, so no one could get upon that roof, and secondly he was visible from the ground, so visible was said to be shot dead, No security personnel saw him climbing on the roof, with a rifle, scope, the lot, sitting their setting it up, which took time. Give me a break
I've posted this a number of times and it is always removed - but I'll try again...! One of the officers who is shown in many MSM images and videos identified himself as one of the snipers in it - he has said publicly that he had the sh00ter in his sites for 3 mins and couldn't get the order to take the sh0t...! The sh00ter had a rifle - the officer and other eye witnesses saw it minutes before he fired - so I don't understand why there could be any grey area about whether there was a threat - even if there was why did they allow the president to remain exposed to the potential threat until they figured it out...! Incompetence doesn't cover it - IMHO....!
if you're referring to Jonathan Willis, that report is a lie. If a Secret Service sniper spots an obvious threat, they have the authority to act without having to wait for orders. It's BS
The main Gabriel team that is shown on main in vids is Team 1, their view was "compromised" it seems, Team 2 took the shot. But saw yesterday that the FBI said that the roof the shooter was on was considered too "steep" to have protection......yet the roof's Gabriel teams 1 and 2 were on, are steeper than the shooters!!!!
In the UK, your laws are much different apparently, but here the security that is supposed to be protecting not only a past president put a presumptive president to be as well as the people that are at the rally. They all knew the man was there they were told where the man was at. They were told that he had a rifle, so well he should not have been allowed to fire once much less five times before Secret Service took him out
Excuse me if I cannot agree with your assessment. Legalities apart, the killer had a RIFLE. That was very clear because there were eye-witnesses, including the police officer, who saw the weapon. There was the LIFE of a president at stake here, for crying out loud! What the heck do they have to be "sure" about. It takes one shot, one millisecond of indecisiveness for a man to die. YOU ARE WRONG! There was no call for the snipers to hold off fire in this case. Trump isn't just any man. He is the presumptive nominee of the Republican party, a former president and a potential future one. That sniper should not be on such a job if he can't make a quick decision. If he's going to be bothered about whether his mistake might land him in hot water, then he simply shouldn't be on that job!
I agree with you re. intention of the suspect: the security sniper would see the weapon and the physical behaviour of the would be assassin through his scope, if alerted. What I'm less sure about is would he require a "code red" OEA from a team commander before he could take the shot and eliminate the threat?
Parameter secured, then an invisible man gets a ladder, also invisible, climbs upon the roof, invisibly takes time to set up his rifle, and when he shoots becomes visible in order to be shot dead
agreed. I shoot 22 at 100 yards with open sights and can see perfectly well. The sniper had a powerful scope so he could see the killer as though he is in the same room as him. We've already heard that apparently he was waiting for permission .
@@manofkent4472 Agree, absolutely, and same here, without any scope and sights, as learned to shoot when young. With the aid, as you rightly say, a scope, the man had no chance, and it is a lie, by the authorities that the security had to wait for permission, a down right lie. Amazing how the man became invisible to the naked eye, his ladder, to climb up on the roof invisible, his equipment invisible, so that no one saw anything, and then all of a a sudden his invisibility cloak broke down and he became visible
@@manofkent4472 Correction - could have seen him like if he had one eye looking through a toilet roll tube in the right direction whilst in the same room. There's a very limited field of view through a scope.
Unfortunately you are relying on old info. There was an officer that tried climbing onto the roof that had the kid point his AR at him, he then fell down trying to duck. Both officers then broadcast this on the same channel as the SS but that was ignored as well.
@mikeuk666 get a sense of humour! I could go darker.... .obviously I don't agree with what happened and I'm glad Trump didn't get shot! This is going to be a basis for all types of jokes! If dark humour isn't your thing, just ignore the jokes!
OK totally get the legal side, however point 1, it's an obvious position for a sniper any team would have it manned or at least alarmed it (can not beleive the secret service didn't). Point 2 if your aware of a guy on a roof with a potential gun your on massive high alert and would have moved your principle off stage. Point 3 you have a sniper watching a gunman and even if you're waiting for a justified shot, how did he get 8 off before being neutralised. Point 4 why did it take so long for the team to get to the principle. Point 5 why did they mess about letting him get his shoes on and fist pump, SOP is pick them up, push them, drag them, pull them by hair, just get them out of there, do any medical triage once safe, I'm not into any conspiracy theory's I just think it was a monster Swiss cheese balls up on the part of the security team. If your reading this Donald and want a better one DM me ;)
The police officer that tried to get on the roof , who had the shooter trun round and point the rifle at the officer , this officer fell back and radio there is a shooter on the roof 2 mins be for. But the secret service did nothing , for two mins . you can plainly see the snipers have him in there sights and on the radio ,
Interesting. My husband, before retirement, was the Emergency Manager for a State Government Department. Prior to that he worked for Protocol with responsibilities for two Royal tours. His assessment of the incident was first and foremost far too many ‘policing’ agencies involved and a failure to establish command roles and protocols possibly through a lack of training and exercising. Local police, State Troopers, Secret Service etc. All up for inter-agency rivalry. Even though the Inquiry has focused on the Director it’s actually the Field Commander who should, behind closed doors, be fronting the questioning. This is, after all, the Secret Service. As to the delay in responding to the shooter on the roof that, he believes, is simply the officer, advised of the sniper, being confused over the location of their own personnel. They knew there were snipers on a roof and confused their location. With the protective huddle he doubts that any of the officers involved had ever practised that actual procedure. Using a human body as a shield means protecting the vulnerable parts of the person you are protecting. Unless things have changed that’s the head and chest. All very visible when ex President Trump, shocked from the incident, was allowed to punch the air whilst the small agent in front of him crouched down and fumbled with her gun. However he also doubted that the Ex President had ever practised , or been advised, as to the procedures, ‘drop, duck and find cover’ , (or similar ),that used to be mandatory in training. All in all a mess. Lack of planning , exercising, protocols, command and failure to identify areas of threat. The Director did the correct thing by resigning but it should have been after a full report, and recommendations, had been passed to Congress. Her lack of response to many of the questions was once again policy. She was , after all, Director of the ‘Secret’ Service. Sorry this was so long.🇦🇺
Do you mean how a bullet can come from a book depository, and the sound of firing come from the grassy knoll? Parameter secured, then an invisible man gets a ladder, also invisible, climbs upon the roof, invisibly takes time to set up his rifle, and when he shoots becomes visible in order to be shot dead
He was lying on the roof holding a gun. Let's say that it was a telescope and the SS couldn't figure that out (highly doubtful); he is still lying prone holding something in his hand. It is foolhardy to assume he isn't holding a gun.
They claim it was a 'clerical error'. Yeah right...of course it was 🤔. The attempted shorting of 12,000,000 DJT shares worth an average $36 each as I understand it? $432 million. Total coincidence that Soros owned companies have major shares in the company, Austin Private Wealth LLC, of course.
Well since DJT began trading in March, lots of people have made good money shorting it (a March high of $66 to an April low of $27 - its been a brilliant trade to short!). Though if someone did short it the day before his speech, they're losing a lot of money! It closed at $31 on 12th July, his speech was on the13th, but at close on 15th it was back-up to $41. That shorter you mentioned made a very badly timed bet! Be interesting to know the size of their short and if they'd shorted it in prior months, as many have.
While ever the police force is being vilified and cancelled by SM, prosecuted for doing the job they have been trained to do, the police force in the USA and UK will continue to be ineffective!
With respect, have you actually read the full circumstances surrounding this case? Conspiracy theories aside, this was either the most incredible incompetence imaginable, or deliberate dereliction with dubious motives - I suspect the latter. The SS absolutely had more than enough information to neutralise the shooter long before he was able to take shots and would have been fully justified in doing so. Your videos are usually excellent, but this one was a little disappointing.
People are going to argue about this forever. Your Legal opinion is spot on. The ethical and moral side is where people get confused. Like the difference of fact and opinion. Well done gents.
You can find as reason for anything, it doesn't mean it is right. These are not police, they are secret service, with a specific task, to protect the individual. They have a duty and responsibility to secure the person, which included a no go zone within sniper range, which is certainly more than 120yds. The secret service snipers had been observing the assassin for over 20 minutes, not 2 minutes. They have every justifiable right and indeed duty to take out someone who is armed with an assault rifle and pointing it directly at the ex President. As someone who was in the military and engaged in close protection, I can assure you, heads will role in this matter, there is no doubt there was collusion in this matter, the secret service are not this incompetent, they are attempting to shift the blame to the police, it was their over riding role to ensure any vantage point was secure. Your assessment in this matter is incorect.
@@eadweard. Well, 2 possibilities! Either he was helped by some in the security or constabulary by turning a blind eye, OR there was just GROSS incompetence all round! It probably WAS incompetence as there has NOT been an attempt on a sitting or aspiring candidate since Ronald Regan in 1982! Too much complacent leads to too much laxity!
The assistant director of the FBI is in the stands behind trump. While trump's speaking about 5 seconds before the shots were fired she was the only person staring directly at the shooter. A second or two before she holds up a placard over her face. Then the shots and they all dive for cover. Except for her who within two seconds has her phone held up taking footage. Every other member of the crowd acts completely differently to her...the assistant director of the FBI
Please tell your friend that the secret service DO have a duty of care as every President leaving office is entitled to SS protection for life unless they decline it.
From watching various US police videos on RU-vid it would appear that the secret service sniper applied a lot more caution than your average cop. It’s still baffling that Trump was still on the stage.
I don't agree with this assessment at all. The secret service had one job that day and they failed, they are very lucky the man isn't dead. They knew about him being a potential threat 30mins before the shot. There were members of the crowd pointing him out 5 mins before the shot, he had a gun and pointed the gun directly at a police officers face. To say they didn't know if he was threat is not a reasonable excuse for their failure. The shooter had a rifle pointed directly at the principals head. That is a valid reason to take him out immediately. No one could argue it being unjustified. By your argument. They can't take action until a shooter takes the first shot is outrageous. If that's the case then what is the point in even having a protective detail? The least they could do was stop trump speaking and get him out of a dangerous situation
I couldn't focus on the subject matter. All I could do was look at the beautiful surroundings, the sparkling aqua sea, and hope that you had sunscreen on your ears! Going to rewatch!😊
Typical barrister - 7 minutes of irrelevant waffle! In the MINUTES before the shooter fired, on the JOINT communications channel, shared by the Police and Secret Service, it was reported that there was a man on the roof with a rifle! In the seconds before he opened fire, he turned and pointed the rifle at the police officer who climbed up to the edge of the roof. This would have been seen by the SS snipers. The 'threat' passed the civil and criminal tests long before the gunman pulled the trigger. The SS sniper didn't fire until 26 seconds AFTER the first shot from the gunman!
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The timing on this upload could not have been worse. Loads more information has came out today that damns everything said in this video. Also, I think some info had already came out which pulled into question the 2 minute timing at the time of upload.
I think the firearm was quite visible based on footage from multiple sources but the thing which makes me hesitate on this one is the guy who pointed a fake pistol at the then Prince Charles and gave the fellow a bit of an adrenaline rush, not to mention his security. Quite the party, that one, by the sounds of it. If they'd shot him, Charles wouldn't have been able to have had a conversation with him later & I'm guessing that this experience was quite memorable for all concerned. So my question was; where was the tranquilliser rifle and what was the drone operator doing? I mean, if drones are the thing to scout and destroy tanks (in the Ukraine for years, now), what's problem? Is the U.S. so far behind that they can't field years-old tech for top end security? And, yes, a drone could easily be rigged to simply drop tranquilliser darts on someone who poses the potential to threaten and it's very easy to scale the escalation. For example, you see the guy on the roof in the topmost sniper's nest. O.K. That's suspicious but no weapon. might be a decoy, check the other nests while the drone is repositioned nearby. The guy produces a rifle. Bring the drone directly above the guy. He's using an AR. Decoy, upgrade alert status and start looking for a second shooter. The guy does anything which violates firearms safety (I'm thinking of little things like barrel discipline, not discharges given that it's usually a bit late when there's a firearms discharge), drop a tranq dart on him and roll the dice on adverse medical risks. At this point, it's almost certain someone's going to get hurt if you don't and it's also almost certain that your guy will wake up a bit groggy from the tranq dart and be capable of taking tea with one of your officers when he does. It's a better than reasonable saddlepoint strategy. They didn't do any of that and it's an absolute disgrace how the top security operators in the U.S. put all those people at risk so they can cheap out on a drone operator, a proper drone and some drugs; all yesterday's tech and a no-brainer to implement. Because, seriously, when things like this happen, you definitely want to get your shooter into an interrogation room to find out what's happening. If you use the PEACE method while someone who knows the non-verbal language reads the face, you'll pull all the intel you need unless he's government sponsored (and trained) - then it might take a few hours for the poker face to slip...but it always does.
I've no doubt that if they had acted sooner, people would be asking why they were so quick off the mark, couldn't they have waited until they were more sure. Seems to me, they are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't
DISAGREE - Although everything you have stated is indeed correct in terms of thought processes it does not justify the lack of ealry judgement to take the shot. These are trained professionals, they should have been rigorously trained in many different scenarios to make sure they do take the shot in the necessary time frame. These sharpshooters did not! As soon as they saw a weapon trained on ANYONE (tbh) the shot was justified. Secondly a man in the prone position on a roof is pretty much a combat indicator! However, lets say he could not see the rifle, alert the team and if absolutely necessary and safe to do so, you could fire a warning shot! 2 mins to identify a threat/target and not shoot before or even the moment the first shot is fired is a poor show for a sharpshooter in a country where they grow up with weapons everywhere!
I agree with your opinion on shooting but police and USSS were warned in time that an officer/officers could have gone and checked on the person long before he takes a shot. Also on the "They don't owe him security" part. They provide protection for all ex presidents this isn't just a Trump thing. Either way have a great holiday :)
These men are trained to a high level. From the angle given by pictures and diagram they would have seen his head the barrel, sight aperture or iron sights which are distinctive, upper receiver and a shooting position which as “trained professional”be very familiar I find this all very dubious.
Oh dear. I was bored after less than 30s. That was a weird start to the video ! While I am no expert it seems to me that the Counter-Sniper and his Spotter were set-up for longer range overwatch. Clearly, they saw something and the Sniper had to re-position his weapon. Lay the blame on someone that allowed a breach of the security !
Everyone has a blind spot (at least one, including me) sensei. This is one of yours. At the "cusp" often the choice to "do the right thing" is a moot point between one's own soul and the supreme being, God, the universe, however. It certainly isn't up for discussion between me and my line manager. .. When one has been trained to be the most dangerous creature in the woods, curiously, a great responsibility comes with it. And it has nothing to do with one's paycheck. I struggle to believe that at some level you do not know this. Regards.
That sounds plausible on its own, but doesn't really hold water when wider context is considered. I've heard that people were telling security he had a gun, that he was flagged as suspicious well before & that secret service were told about a potential threat before Trump even went on stage. This is a conspiracy or a comedy of errors. Either way, they didn't do their jobs.
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They also started clearing the stage of certain people seconds before and communicating amongst themselves as though they knew what was going to happen.
It looked like a show a fake show like a lot of the events involving guns in America. That’s my opinion (and I’m not pro or anti the fella! I couldn’t care less about politics in the states or over here! No matter who gets in the agenda(s) will continue. I love this channel by the way you are an interesting guy.
On one hand the guy had a rifle. On the other hand, with the guy lying prone I can imagine his clothing not being visible. Could the SS sniper see enough to be sure he was not a police sniper. But they should have known exactly who was on that roof.
Easy, they were busy listening to Trump's speech and didn't like to interrupt. I mean how many times have you got something important to say/do but the one speaking is mid-flow so you don't like to stop them.
