I recently bought the battle city speed duel pack to play some simple casual yugioh with my wife and honestly it has been so good, so I think a product like this every now and again is great for people that want to just play for some nostalgia without having to learn the current metas. So im happy to see something like this, as long as it’s not too often. W for yugioh!
All I've seen is people who play competitive whining about how these decks are awful when it is pretty clear it isn't meant for them and is meant to teach the basics of the game to a new player. Is it great? No but i think it's a step in the right direction for sure. Yu-Gi-Oh absolutely needs a beginner friendly format that isnt just completely overwhelming to learn.
Trying to hide behind "well it's a step in the right direction". 🙄 A better step would be to stop a newer player from wasting money on this trash and introducing them to structure decks and having them spend $10 more to get 3 of them and they'll have a consistent and useable deck to learn the game with and for the mechanics their structure decks don't have they can learn from the rules online or even through the anime or Yugioh video games like Master Duel which has actual tutorials for the mechanics. The problem with this product as someone who has played Yugioh since the beginning is that we know how this is going to go. Some poor new player is going to waste $20 on this thinking they're going to learn how to play current day Yugioh and then they're going to get stomped by a current Yugioh deck and that new player is going to realize that they just got scammed out of $20 by Konami and they'll never buy another Yugioh product again. Players aren't complaining because it's not a competitive deck. They're complaining because it's not representative of current Yugioh and doesn't even teach all of the mechanics. The result being potential new players getting scammed and never attempting to purchase another Yugioh product again which means even less players will be playing Yugioh. Don't defend trash like this. Call it out for what it is otherwise Yugioh will always fail to draw in new players.
Thank God someone said it, anybody who gets upset about stuff like this is braindead. New players aren’t going to be interested in the combo negate extravaganza this game has become. A 2 player set with some staples and basic teachings of some of the new mechanics is great! Why would anyone be upset about it? Lmaoo grow up 😂😂 new players aren’t gonna be ready to ash and droll correctly right off the bat so a beginner friendly format is definitely a step in the right direction and I’d go even further to introduce new rules never initiated to bring back some semblance of the old ways to keep it actually fun. No new player wants to sit across someone for 10 minutes while they search their entire deck, banish half of yours, set up 7 negates, and get ur Lp to 100 all on the first turn
They needed to have this product be like the pokemon battle stadium. Sell it as a board game. It came with two basic decks and a "advanced" deck. Had a board that showed clearly the zones for both players and rules for turn order and statuses. And it was $20. Much better value than this yugioh one, they should definitely have took a loss on the product so that they get people buying their other product
@@LunaticKD1991 How about no? To everything you just said. This product is of good quality and it's intended target audience is that of new Yugi-Oh players who are trying to get into the game. You teach them the basics and fundamentals first and once they've grasped them THEN later you teach them the advanced stuff. Don't make me call a judge on you.
Well for me this is going to help. As a Magic player, the mechanics are way too different in Yu-Gi-Oh, I started learning by playing speed duel, but even this two pre-constructed decks are going to help a bit learning the whole game piece by piece.
its helpful for teaching friends how to play at least, would be cool if they did this as a series of products to get people past the initial rule fear barrier to entry
I feel like something that people may not be thinking about is that generally, the best cards in yugioh search cards from deck. This wouldn't really work in a scripted duel since you can't shuffle. Could they have put in stronger cards? Absolutely. Could they script a more realistic duel? Probably not.
As a person who has recently landed themselves a job at a local card hobby shop, purchasing this starter set has been a massive help! I appreciate the detailed walkthrough of a first game, while explaining as many mechanics without being too intimidating. I for one would be keen to purchase something similar, with different mechanics such as pendulum and fusion being explained! :D
I think at least they're trying to focus on the new player experience, which is good. But honestly an actual rulebook would be nice, and terminologies explained like : and ; and then and when vs if. Playing ygo sometimes feels like being a lawyer or something
So, I just am watching your old streams when I do a bunch of sorting, and I like you like 2% more now bc ig you play clash of clans , I didn’t realize your namesake came from that, so I respect that
Very specifically because some people don't play Yugioh and require a lot of information that the starter set addresses. I got it and will ease my brother into the game with it.
Yeah I think these decks are a good starting point, but what they really need to do is take from Pokemon TCG's old Battle Arena Decks format with these. Both include a way to learn the game through a scripted duel but also make them playable archetypes that you can build from.
As a way to introduce the game to someone who doesn't know how to play is a nice way. I mean I'd like a Lil more staples like ash or mirror force but this is good start. Obviously you need to purchase packs to get better cards, but I do like this if I was starting out.
As someone who is new to Yugioh I'm happy to see this come out gives me something to learn the game side other then just the collectable side thx for sharing.
This is not bad at all. Each deck focusing on one type of summoning makes it easier of new learners. And there are some good cards in there. 8:51 the decks should be evenly matched but the contents of the deck should NOT include evenly matched
This past year I was introduced to playing Magic The Gathering through their starter kits which are basically the same thing as this product, 2 decks and an intro guide. It was a great way to learn the game because playing with and against a deck around the same caliber really keeps it even for both sides. It was for sure fun but it does get repetitive after a while so I went out to buy the other starter kits from previous years and ended up with 8 different decks because they were affordable. I didn't care that these decks were not good in the meta, I knew that they were not going to be good from the start. From there I decided to make my own deck from those cards and eventually started buying singles or booster packs. I feel like if they keep this up then there be a variety of starter kits for Yugioh and be very helpful to introduce more people to the base game which is its intention.
This is why Ruxin is my favorite yugituber.He is honest,that title alone is damn on point. Unlike the other blokes who tried to "promote" and sell this "product". "This yugioh set changes everything",this yugioh product is the best,omg konami bla bla bla Thank you Ruxin
I think its a nice idea, if a couple of friends want to get back into playing after a long time its a nice way to warm up the brain to the game again. Even as just someone who wants to get back into playing alone it seems like a good place to start since you get to experience 2 different decks with different mechanics and its all a walkthrough with a nice comic book! 🤓
I think you hit the nail on the head, this IS a good product for kids or someone who wants to learn how to play. I haven’t played since the GX era, so my only knowledge of summoning XYZ or Synchro comes from what I picked up in Duel Links 😅 can’t even begin to under Pendulum
I'm in full agreement. Yu-Gi-Oh should do draft booster decks like MTG does. They usually come with a special insert card and such, but it could bring more ppl to the table on release dates.
I enjoy this product to hopefully bring in new players. Would love to see you and somebody have a match with these decks against each other! As always, thanks for the content!
I picked this up as although I got back into collecting the cards my friends who play with new meta I'm so lost as I haven't dueled since 2004/05 😂😂 I love how the comic is like you can duel against yourself 😂😂 😂
Conceptually, I think a product like this is a really good idea. Giving people a really accessible entry point into the game is a necessity for the game to grow, but having looked through structured duel, it has a lot of work needed. Again,great concept that can be improved, but needs a bit of work, in my opinion. The structured duel is a bit all over the place, tough to follow for new players, and leaves out a fair amount of information for the current metas. I know it would be impossible for a single set to cover everything in a game as complicated as YGO, but I think having maybe a video to follow along with could be beneficial (maybe a QR code in the box that sends players to a video to watch/play along with) as well as a wider range of decks and match-ups to appeal to people who jumped into the game at different points would be good.
I actually grabbed one of that and played it sealed against my friend (after ignoring the instructions and shuffling the deck). It was a really fun time, and there were definitely some close games
8:48 "It would be cool though if they gave us two decks that were very EVENLY MATCHED" Konami: Write that down, write that down!! Next release: The 2-Player Starter Set II - featuring cards such as Evenly matched and There can be only one. "The goal of Yu-gi-oh! is not letting your opponent play Yu-gi-oh!" is the first sentence written in the comic book. 😆
I think this is great idea. Pokémon has been doing it for years with their battle arena box( I bought one and learned to play Pokémon) and it works for exactly what it’s designed for!
I think this is what they were trying to do with Speed Duels. I like it they made a plot armor deck. It's not a bad product to learn how to play from. I think they should go full tilt and add the common hand traps like ash and Impermanence. Plus they should address all summoning mechanics.
Tbh a Zeus deck vs some random machines doesn’t seem to be exactly an evenly matched but idk, I guess it could be depending how you look at it, really depends how much you think is missing 😅😂
I mean the two player starter set did come in handy in a way the cyber dragon and elemental hero sparkman came in handy in both my destiny hero and my cyber dragon deck came in handy
I think this is a great idea, my gf and i bought some yugioh packs on a whim and unboxing them was nostalgic and fun but then we went to play and i spent hours trying to figure out how to play all these random cards we'd got. I gave up, its insane to a new player to try and learn everything with no one in person to teach you
As an adult who is rewatching the Yu Gi Oh Anime from the beginning I think this is great, I haven’t played in almost 20 something years, I think this is a great starter to just have some fun, I bought a newer structure deck and found it rather complicated so I’m glad there’s an easier version for those of us who just want to casually jump in
I'm guessing that was from the post office? Idk anyone else who delivers on sunday, but I know for a fact UPS has rain bags that we are supposed to put packages in if it's raining and there's no good spot to keep it dry. I'm guessing your shipping company also has rain bags, but they just didn't feel like using it
I wish hey had this when I started. It loos to be a good measure of all the different types of cards you could get and really would help to get used to them.
Personally, I think this is ingenious. Having something to help teach newcomers how to play is great, especially in the way they did it here. And I agree on the idea of having a second set continuing off of this one to show some more advanced strategies would be good to do.
I mean, if you're a seasoned player and collector, I could say it has its place. It would be good for people wanting to get into the hobby, which is good for the YuGiOh hobby in general. So, as I stated, it has its place and could actually help us.
I think it can be usefull for new player that havent seen the anime, (like me) or someone whoe played it on early 2000s and wanta to come bakc, looking forward to get one
Ok first of all what shipping company is open on a sunday? Second it's kinda cool that you get 2 decks. Although it looks like a lot of random cards to me. What i think would be cool is if you separated the cards monsters/spells/traps. Then you and your opponent select 1 card from each section altering how picks first.
I was learning the game by playing speed duel but are these decks going to help? I think yeah at least a little to learn the game step by step. So I think this is not worst thing to do for new players. And I appreciate that each deck is focusing on one type of summoning .And I love the Zeus card!
100% agree with you. I didn't buy one myself given that I already play, but to entice more fans, they could also print a couple new cards in these decks! Instead of just reprints
This is kinda why I like speed duel. Simple, easy, prebuilt decks that you can play with a friend. Only wish they removed the HIDEOUS speed duel stamp from the otherwise gorgeous secret rares 😤
Well it depends. If the comic book explains ALL the mechanics properly, then it's good. But if it doesn't... and these deck feel a bit too random for the theme they're supposed to hold (XYZ and synchro). Also, nowadays Yugioh is all about combo, and I don't feel these structures hold any combos that you can actually learn and understand the true nature of the game as it is now. I feel they seem to be more like the old "1 or 2 card combo" which is really nice and I love, but it doesn't hold true now. I do think it's great that they get a great card like Zeus for cheap, and Manadium as a basic build for an advanced combo deck is not a bad choice. I think they could be better, but the idea behind it is really nice!
When it comes to teaching Yugioh and its many summoning mechanics; the less things a new player has to keep track of, the better. So having vanilla monsters take up a bunch of the monster slots is a good call.
It's an alright product. I do think something like 15$ (maybe even 10) would be more reasonable, or if it had stronger simple cards (more cards like Eldlich like pankratops maybe)
To your point about not getting a top-tier deck for $20, Pokémon releases the deck that wins the world championship every year for like $20. Konami totally could do the same with super nerfed rarities (everything in common).
Honestly, I think this is a pretty good product. If the goal is to teach the game to new players (or returning players from many years ago who aren't necessarily comfortable yet with summoning mechanics like Synchro and Xyz), then it needs to strike a balance between being too basic and being too overwhelming. These decks don't seem too far off the mark in that regard, since they feature a mixture of old-school cards with simple effects and newer cards that could be (and are) used in competitive decks to do much fancier combos than what these decks can do out of the box. I can imagine someone with a serious interest in learning the game using this as a stepping stone, even if there's a lot more to learn (esp. Link summoning and hand traps) after playing with the cards included here.
I truly like this product I see this helping new players or as a refresher for people coming back to Yu-Gi-Oh after not playing for a long time as the new rules and summonings can be a bit overwhelming as well as trying to explain to people all the rules can be a little confusing. Hopefully Konami keeps making these sets especially with links
Konami should design occasional decks that are meant to be played against each other. They don't don't have to be powerful, just balanced between one another.
no duel mat and paper cutout tokens? Really Konami? 19-ish dollars(depends a lot on where you are) for paper tokens, no playmat and decks where they are nearly unplayable other then 3 cards total.
I think this is good for people starting out, plus it comes with a bunch of cards that are good for beginners and people just starting to collect the cards
I love the idea, I said it before, Pokemon used to do this the exact same way and it worked well. I wish you would have played through the scripted duel to see how it goes, and to see which side is supposed to win, I also feel that the XYZ deck is much better.
I was going to get it along with my friends for the Zeus, but I like making starlight proxies so we decided to save the money bc university is expensive and we play amongst ourselves 😂
Having Starter set and also Structure decks for me are the best to employ marketing. The comic book for me is a good pull. Does anyone know where I can buy these?
I think this is a great idea, I just wish the decks were different, something like tenyi monsters would teach more complicated cards. They’re not too difficult, and they teach how to use effects and stuff that aren’t just. Normal sparkman make a rank 4
The reason why the yugioh community doesn’t like this product is obvious. This is not for the yugioh community; this is a product to introduce new fans into the yugioh community. I am glad Konami is making this because the yugioh community in my opinion is dying. Kids these days don’t even know what yugioh is. They need to bring back the anime, stop making new mechanics for a while, and allow new fans to jump in again.
I like the idea of starter sets. I think the cards they chose are strange. I think the product really has 2 goals. The secondary goal is to teach people how to play, but the primary goal it to make a fun experience. You could give someone some LOB decks and it will be very simple, and they could quickly learn some of the most basic concepts of yugioh, but LOB is not particularly fun compared to other card games, so I doubt it would hold interest. I think the idea of a scripted duel was a bit weird, because I don't think two players would have a lot of fun reading walls of text and passing the book back and forth for 60 something pages. Also its not fantastic to just play as its own format, because the XYZ deck is far stronger than the synchro. The book often teaches you to misplay just so that they can move the duel forward. Many people have stated, this should have come with token cards and a playmat to teach players where to put their cards. I think they could improve this product by looking at past formats. I don't think it is possible to teach a player how to use all of yugioh's summoning mechanics with 1 cohesive deck. I also do not expect them to give us swordsoul for $20. However, I think if they took some goat deck lists, and reprinted some of the top goat decks, that could present a heavily simplified version of the game. Goat has some complexity but its not modern yugioh. It doesn't use most of the summoning mechanics. Goat is also pretty balanced with many great decks to choose from. Goat is also extremely fun. They could match 2 relatively equal goat decks, include a playmat, and maybe like 1 random promotional card like Zues or eldlich.
Honestly, I don't hate the 2 Player Starter Set. Like the name implies, it's a starter set. It's meant to get those who have never touched the game an entry point, if someone showed me the craziness of say a U Link play or anything like that when I first started, I probably would've never continued with the game. It's a pilot, it's meant to serve as an entry and then if you like the ideas and the concept you can take it further. No tutorial on Earth shows you the most complicated stuff right off the bat. I do believe that there is poor follow-up. If someone does like the game and wants to take it further and learn the advanced stuff there are very few official resources which allow you to do so.
