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@shammahbernard5509
@shammahbernard5509 14 часов назад
Zhou catching strays🤣🤣
@peanutnutter1
@peanutnutter1 14 часов назад
Pew pew!
@Becky_Cooling
@Becky_Cooling 13 часов назад
@@peanutnutter1 firing out old church seating!
@bossmen6665
@bossmen6665 11 часов назад
my zhou
@JordanHarris
@JordanHarris 10 часов назад
You spelled Slow wrong.
@miamimilk
@miamimilk 6 часов назад
🤣🤣🤣
@parkermaupin2930
@parkermaupin2930 13 часов назад
Verstappen understands that he doesn’t need to win he just needs lando to not win and is willing to wreck his race as long as it wrecks landos. Max knows what he’s doing.
@Dayfitnl
@Dayfitnl 12 часов назад
Thats fair play when it comes to winning a championship.
@jaimesrk
@jaimesrk 12 часов назад
​@@DayfitnlIt's not.
@Dayfitnl
@Dayfitnl 12 часов назад
@@jaimesrk It is.
@HUMC5
@HUMC5 12 часов назад
Max is a spoiled rich kid.
@garyrodrigues7433
@garyrodrigues7433 12 часов назад
Memories of Schumacher 1994 Adelaide and 1997 Jerez tactics.
@loader-ut2vd
@loader-ut2vd 14 часов назад
They should bring back drive-throughs and even black flag penalties. Verstappen will continue to do this because the punishment isn't harsh enough
@dnvyl
@dnvyl 14 часов назад
I agree, but they should also look into other options rendering overtaking off the track useless without the need of any penalty from the stewards (like grass or gravel) and only in rare occasions use harsh penalties to correct a driver's behaviour
@Polytopiagod
@Polytopiagod 14 часов назад
@@loader-ut2vd 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@loader-ut2vd
@loader-ut2vd 14 часов назад
@@dnvyl I remember when they used to show the drivers briefing a driver (think it was Ricciardo) made this point but Charlie Whiting said it's not possible because of other classes of Motorsport the tracks use e.g. motorbike racing. Whether that point is accurate or not I'm not sure if that's necessarily correct but that'll be the argument against it aside from costs/time of replacing the runoff area with gravel or grass
@HarveyTaylor-xn8iu
@HarveyTaylor-xn8iu 14 часов назад
snowflake
@kabirsharma2858
@kabirsharma2858 13 часов назад
What about having this view in 2021, that time no seemed to care…
@brilliantbeaches5389
@brilliantbeaches5389 14 часов назад
Is it really that difficult to understand? Even with the 20 second penalty his move paid off. Only the win gets you big points. Norris was the fastest driver in clean air and would have won the race. Verstappen held him off for 27 laps. It doesn't really matter if Verstappen scores 8, 10 or 12 points when Norris only scores 15 or 18 points instead of 25 points. It's basic math. Max's goal is for Lando to not win the race.
@gehteuchnixan69
@gehteuchnixan69 13 часов назад
So punishment needs to be even harsher.
@eladrio2311
@eladrio2311 13 часов назад
@@gehteuchnixan69 Suspended from one race if he does it again and you will see how he stops doing it
@brilliantbeaches5389
@brilliantbeaches5389 13 часов назад
@@gehteuchnixan69 One could say he is abusing the current rule set. But it's actually the FIA's fault. Some will say Max is a genius, others will say he acts unsportsmanlike. That's opinion based. But rules shouldn't be opinion based. They should be clear to everyone and the punishment for breaking those rules should be clear to everyone. The FIA needs to set this straight. I believe they have done a really poor job. If you're ahead at the apex the corner belongs to you, that doesn't make any sense to me. Who was ahead at the breaking zone? The current rule set completely ignores that.
@scribtz2241
@scribtz2241 13 часов назад
@@brilliantbeaches5389 ye he is abusing it a lot, he abuses being ahead of the apex by sending it and not making the corner himself, also the hypocrisy to call out norris in Austria where he says divebomb is not how you overtake but he does just that
@craigfjay
@craigfjay 13 часов назад
I agree that “ahead at the braking point” would make it fairer, but the secondary issue is the main one now: Max is playing the rules as they are, and he’s entitled to do this. The rules dictate what’s fair, and the punishment for breaching them. Right now, it’s worth max breaching the rules because even with the punishment, he’s better off. Lando needs more points-per-race now, than he did before Mexico. I’m remembering Suarez deliberate hand ball on the goal line against Ghana (I think). He broke the rule, got the red card and a penalty awarded, but it was worth it for him because the penalty was saved and Uruguay won in the end
@little_swag-
@little_swag- 9 часов назад
Reminiscent of Hamilton vs Verstappen Brazil 2021. Verstappen ran him off the track just like this but was unpenalized for that maneuver.
@bakker071
@bakker071 4 часа назад
Still but hurt after 4 years?
@venukrithish007
@venukrithish007 4 часа назад
​@@bakker071he's just pointing abt the signs abt how Max has a pass or crash attitude
@RacingAnt
@RacingAnt 4 часа назад
​@@bakker071 way less than Max fans after Silverstone...
@bakker071
@bakker071 4 часа назад
@@RacingAnt your telling me there are more people wining about Silverstone then Abu Dhabi? Get out of here dude.
@bakker071
@bakker071 4 часа назад
@@venukrithish007 that’s why he’s gonna be a 4 times world champion.
@DanteBellin
@DanteBellin 14 часов назад
That was some serious PlayStation drive from Max...
@daphnelovesL
@daphnelovesL 13 часов назад
Like Silverstone 2021 and celebrate if he won the WDC
@hellogoodybye44
@hellogoodybye44 12 часов назад
More like Nintendo Switch. He’s got that red shell mentality 😂
@dbzmonty
@dbzmonty 11 часов назад
​@@daphnelovesL or like Carmageddon in Monza if your memory is not selective
@OnlineHipHopTV
@OnlineHipHopTV 9 часов назад
​@daphnelovesL Was has Lando has to do with Silverstone 2021?
@ghfsd786fa
@ghfsd786fa 8 часов назад
worth it
@aztronomy7457
@aztronomy7457 12 часов назад
The “who’s ahead at the corner” makes no sense. That encourages dive bombing without making the corner along the racing line. Max exploits that loophole more than anyone else.
@radders774
@radders774 11 часов назад
They changed the regs to accommodate this loophole specifically for Max
@steve4880
@steve4880 10 часов назад
Norris actually does. You notice that every time these 2 have come into contact like this, it's Norris with DRS going late into the corner on the outside. The FIA need to have it that the car that is leading down the straight is the car that controls the corner unless being passed from the inside. Norris having his front wing in front for 1 second because of late braking does not mean the corner is his. Passing on the outside used to be non-thinkable, but now, you can just cry you were pushed off and a penalty is handed to the driver defending their position.
@niemoikein4330
@niemoikein4330 9 часов назад
@@steve4880 nonsense we’ve had overtaking on the outside ever since the first days of racing. Unthinkable what a joke.
@bujfvjg7222
@bujfvjg7222 9 часов назад
The richest people in the world have exposed all the loopholes, just look at your government.
@we5tbevryertyv
@we5tbevryertyv 7 часов назад
@@steve4880So no passing in corners? Might as well watch bowling.
@AstonVantage8
@AstonVantage8 13 часов назад
Verstappen is ruthless and has a win at all cost mentality. I’m sure he did the math in his head that if both Norris and himself were taken out he would reduce the chance of Norris catching him on drivers champ. Sportsmanship is only applicable when he is ahead.
@ab8jeh
@ab8jeh 13 часов назад
Should be a race ban. Crashing on purpose is just disgraceful.
@krinord
@krinord 13 часов назад
I'm pretty sure this had been thought of even before they got in the car on sunday, Red Bull is extremely crafty and sneaky with strategy like this. In the past, they've withheld knowledge about another driving breaching the rules (incorrectly doing a practice start) in FP. Only reporting it as the cars were getting lined up on the grid on race day. The driver got a grid penalty and had to get moved back minutes before the race started, all to play mental games and get in their head.
@hellogoodybye44
@hellogoodybye44 12 часов назад
There should be something to disincentivize this. Crashing someone off the road should not be a valid defense.
@CheaperEngineer
@CheaperEngineer 12 часов назад
+1 FIA created and rewarded this monster by not penalizing torpedo tactics early in his career. Brilliantly talented driving at the limit in clean air, but definitely not a sportsman.
@liamcooper91
@liamcooper91 10 часов назад
@@ab8jeh in the end he didn’t crash on purpose
@darrenwardell3079
@darrenwardell3079 13 часов назад
Also, when a driver is given a time penalty, they should have to take it on the next lap so they don’t hold other drivers up
@MikeSavageF1
@MikeSavageF1 12 часов назад
This is why the drive through was so powerful, it was forced to be taken within 3 laps rather than at their leisure.
@steve4880
@steve4880 10 часов назад
This was one of the reasons they upped the penalty from 5 to 10 seconds. The drivers that were committing the most penalties were in cars that could drive away from the field. So forcing a slower car off the track to get a position earned a 5 second penalty. But the person would gain that 5 seconds in the matter of a few laps, so the penalty really was unjust.
@QuantumKitsune
@QuantumKitsune 10 часов назад
@@steve4880 Yeah, Lando nearly removed his own 5 second penalty in the previous race because he was so much quicker than Max. I definitely think they need to do a minimum 10 seconds, although I do wish they'd bring back the full on drive through in 3 laps rule.
@joineralbert2493
@joineralbert2493 8 часов назад
Why didn't you want this years ago ? Ask yourself why .........
@darrenwardell3079
@darrenwardell3079 13 часов назад
If K-Mag had driven that way he would have had points on his licence.
@janwillem2656
@janwillem2656 11 часов назад
Max also got 2 points after the race.
@steve4880
@steve4880 10 часов назад
Verstappen got points on his license though.
@niemoikein4330
@niemoikein4330 9 часов назад
@@janwillem2656he only received 2 points for T4 incident. Not for T8 as stewards rule that “he did try to make the corner”. In what reality that is, is still unknown.
@gnaihccn
@gnaihccn 6 часов назад
if UK passport holder drive like that, maybe no further investigation required, or 5s at most.
@jordanclark4635
@jordanclark4635 5 часов назад
@@gnaihccn*no* British world champion has driven with Verstappens disgustingly reckless behaviour.
@Drinkyoghurt
@Drinkyoghurt 12 часов назад
Verstappen dive bombing like it's a Forza controller lobby
@bogdanflo1212
@bogdanflo1212 10 часов назад
Is funny that behind those 2 is Lewis Hamilton, best seat to observe Max antics... Deja-vu feeling
@taykitrleevitt4314
@taykitrleevitt4314 8 часов назад
​@bogdanflo1212 Max is one of the worst champions in F1 history... why anybody would defend the idiot is beyond me.
@ThaDutchDK1989
@ThaDutchDK1989 8 часов назад
taykitrleevitt4314 You re to young to witnessed what senna did to Prost in Suzuka . Or what Schumacher did in Adelaide , Monaco . You British have either no idea or a very selective memory
@Edu-e9o
@Edu-e9o Час назад
​@@ThaDutchDK1989Oh that one dive-bomb Senna did? Max does that every fkn race, can't race side by side.
@borgri9125
@borgri9125 13 часов назад
instead of time penalties, they should reintroduce stop/go. max was impeding lando for a long time, destroying his chances to attack ferrari.
@Unknown5user
@Unknown5user 10 часов назад
You can just say: give Norris a 5 minute head start in the next 4 races...
@strangerdanger1012
@strangerdanger1012 9 часов назад
Impeding? lol.
@bujfvjg7222
@bujfvjg7222 9 часов назад
Blue flags for any car now? Logic that...
@gnaihccn
@gnaihccn 6 часов назад
now tell that on george vs hamilton, carlos vs charles. see? they are racing, give up your position just because someone drive a fast car?
@adamrandall5163
@adamrandall5163 5 часов назад
​@@gnaihccnbut it's not though, if you cannot keep your car on the track then you are being a Muppet and not a driver. Now Norris is doing the same thing as the cheater, they are finally changing the rules?
@mahadevovnl
@mahadevovnl 13 часов назад
The real question is why Max took the risk. It's because his best finish would've been P6 anyway (which he got despite the 20s penalty), his only goal was to either yeet Lando into the barriers or gravel trap, or at LEAST cost him P1. Points-wise, this race result is a win for Max. He cost Lando points and didn't lose any himself.
@NathanQuinn-x4q
@NathanQuinn-x4q 13 часов назад
I'm confused, why could not have done better than P6?
@gulamangulay
@gulamangulay 13 часов назад
No, Max can't just do whatever he wants to in a championship and defend at all cost. If Lando's race here was done for by Max, this would have become '97 championship, ie Max getting disqualified from the championship in the same way as Schumacher.
@valtteri_its_james
@valtteri_its_james 13 часов назад
He thought he was in a sim racing game
@Josh-ui7nq
@Josh-ui7nq 13 часов назад
Honestly Max should have been DQed for that second move, it was so dangerous. It wasn't a move, it was a torpedo to try and take Lando out with no other intention
@danboothphotography
@danboothphotography 13 часов назад
I think Max could have been P4 and Lando P1 which would have been more points to Lando. I wouldn't have argued against a more harsh penalty, I think 10 seconds was too soft for the Turn 8 one an 10 seconds was too harsh for the first one (because at the time he didn't gain/keep postion)
@tokyoxide
@tokyoxide 14 часов назад
First penalty could possibly be defended, but there were no excuses for that 2nd one.
@joshmason6169
@joshmason6169 14 часов назад
He only got the first penalty because of the second. If he had kept his cool, he probably would have been given the place back as the first one was def not a 10 second penalty.
@Lamster66
@Lamster66 13 часов назад
@@joshmason6169 Glad you cleared up Jolyon's mistake for us. So you're on stewards duty next week? Nah thought not!
@JoeRabone
@JoeRabone 10 часов назад
First one could’ve been argued slightly if it weren’t for that incident in Austin
@reaperbsc
@reaperbsc 9 часов назад
Both were outlandish. You can't push cars off the track. That's exceedingly dangerous. The FIA needs to stop this from happening.
@marclangman4836
@marclangman4836 7 часов назад
@@joshmason6169Not likely. As has been reiterated over and over for the reason Max didn’t get a penalty in Austin, the first to the apex wins the corner. So since Lando made it to the apex first, the rules state that Max had to give Lando room or face a penalty. Max chose to run him off the course.
@detoowang
@detoowang 5 часов назад
6:49 "If every drive races like Max Verstappen, it would be chaos" Couldn't agree more, a championship won by bullying is a cheap one
@petyrkowalski9887
@petyrkowalski9887 19 минут назад
Its his way.
@the_originaltonno
@the_originaltonno 14 часов назад
I can already tell that if Max and Lando will arrive head to head in the driver championship, with Max ahead, he'll surely crash into Norris
@RepaSre
@RepaSre 14 часов назад
Hope so. Like Hamilton intentionally crashing max in Silverstone 😂
@Themusefan4life
@Themusefan4life 13 часов назад
@@RepaSre all you maxipad boys still clutching at that one episode, meanwhile the world can see how much of a clown fiesta it is with Max' road rage.
@rogue2888
@rogue2888 13 часов назад
@@Themusefan4lifehe’s actually right, Max changed his attitude after Silverstone knowing Hamilton got away with a move that would never stick and only had the risk of taking Max and himself out
@RonniePickeringMate
@RonniePickeringMate 13 часов назад
@@rogue2888weak bait
@simonwatson2399
@simonwatson2399 12 часов назад
​@@RepaSreHamilton gave Verstappen a taste of his own medicine. Verstappen could have backed out any time.
@ab8jeh
@ab8jeh 13 часов назад
5 seconds for the first one. Drive through for Max for the second one should have been issued. Dangerous.
@narancs5
@narancs5 12 часов назад
This would have been the most fair decision. Drivethrough would have been in place in 3 laps so Lando's race would not have been hindered as much by Verstappen blocking him.
@v5o-d8z
@v5o-d8z 11 часов назад
idiot no 1
@v5o-d8z
@v5o-d8z 11 часов назад
@@narancs5 idiot no 2
@muhammadsaid4654
@muhammadsaid4654 11 часов назад
Yeah the drive throughs are needed back tbh. That’s why they piled a 20s penalty
@steve4880
@steve4880 10 часов назад
2nd one never happens though if Norris gave the place back like he should've. He never was in 2nd, he cut the track to gain 2nd place, he never fully made a complete pass on Verstappen. So give Verstappen the 5-10 seconds, but Norris deserves one also for cutting the next corner and gaining an advantage. Lawson got pushed off like Norris did in the exact spot to Perez in turn 4 and he fought back with his elbows out and reclaimed the spot in turn 5.
@ConnorPenfold
@ConnorPenfold 14 часов назад
Love the time penalties which the drivers can serve in the pit stop, saves confusion during or after the race
@mac2857
@mac2857 14 часов назад
But he held Lando back unfairly, a drive through would be more suitable in this case
@sam1_309
@sam1_309 14 часов назад
@@mac2857 its a shorter penalty? but they should punish max by letting the position back quickly, bcs landi didnt get the chance to win bcs max could hold the position for long time
@ErneSaurus
@ErneSaurus 14 часов назад
@@sam1_309 A drive through on this track is over 20 seconds
@bob5000001
@bob5000001 13 часов назад
@@sam1_309not really. Because he’d have to do the drive through separately to a stop. On most circuits, that’s about 20 seconds on top of their actual stop.
@NexuJin
@NexuJin 13 часов назад
Actually, any time penalties have to be mandatory served at their first pit stop.
@7306mark
@7306mark 9 часов назад
Max has been doing this for years driving others off the track. He did it with Lewis and he will do it with anyone that's a threat to him. The sooner the commentators start calling it out and he continues to get penalties during races the better it will be.. he gets away with far too much unsportsmanlike driving.
@btimec5290
@btimec5290 8 часов назад
Agreed!
@edsurpes5283
@edsurpes5283 6 часов назад
He hates it
@Cga12347
@Cga12347 10 часов назад
A lot of people are saying they are ‘too harsh’ of penalties. Honestly, 20 seconds seems fair if not a little too lenient. Forcing him off twice, overtaking off track, divebombing almost causing a collision with no intention of making the turn.
@jordanclark4635
@jordanclark4635 5 часов назад
Impeding Lando for 27 laps? 20 seconds is a worthwhile trade.
@theSafetyCar
@theSafetyCar 5 часов назад
The second move honestly deserves harsher punishment. It was insanely dangerous. Max was willing to end both their races there.
@jacob5486
@jacob5486 4 часа назад
He did cause contact. Norris avoided catastrophe.
@Aubergineman18
@Aubergineman18 13 часов назад
Leclerc: why are you helping us? Verstappen:, i don't care if you win. I need Lando to Lose
@mrvdps
@mrvdps 13 часов назад
For everyone asking why 5 in Austin and 10 on the first move here: 10 ist the regular punishment in the rule book since this year. Norris got 5 because of the mitigating factor Verstappen played in Austin. It's all in the Steward documents. They just don't communicate it to the viewers, which leads to this confusion.
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 13 часов назад
Even if it was communicated the Maxipad fanboys will pretend it doesnt exist.
@stysner4580
@stysner4580 12 часов назад
It's still inconsistent. There's nothing about "mitigating factors" in the regulations. They really need clearer rules.
@plivajucipauk7742
@plivajucipauk7742 11 часов назад
mitigating factor is Norris being British.
@JeroenHendriks76
@JeroenHendriks76 11 часов назад
In Austin both Russell and Piastri received a 5 second penalty for forcing another driver of the track. If you look at the stewards reports from Russell in Austin and Verstappen ( the turn 4 incident in Mexico) then I do not know why a 10 second penalty was given this time, 5 seconds would be consistent with Austin. 10 second penalty for the second incident I fully agree on.
@THENAMEISQUICKMAN
@THENAMEISQUICKMAN 8 часов назад
@@plivajucipauk7742 There's only one driver in the history of Formula 1 that the FIA have straight up gifted a title to. Newsflash, the driver is Dutch.
@Hachi501st
@Hachi501st 11 часов назад
Max's driving has always been like this. Its beyond disgusting and he needs to be either banned for a race or disqualified from the championship like Shummi was in '97 against Villeneuve
@ThaDutchDK1989
@ThaDutchDK1989 8 часов назад
Senna Suzuka ? No disqualification and rammed Prost out of the race
@tonyyoto8820
@tonyyoto8820 7 часов назад
Maybe it’s better for you to accept the fact and live life .
@01Color
@01Color 6 часов назад
Many people rather see a 71 lap race behind a safety car ….Verstappen is racing
@Mr1990dude
@Mr1990dude 12 минут назад
@@01Coloryou call terrible sportsmanship racing eh?
@internetcarson
@internetcarson 13 часов назад
need to start putting out DSQs
@foldionepapyrus3441
@foldionepapyrus3441 13 часов назад
Considering how much the 1997 collision looks like a racing incident and got MSC disqualified from the whole championship in the end yet Mad Max Crashtappen's pulls this level of BS only gets a few seconds added to his race.... A case this slam dunk against him really seems like it should be revoking his super license entirely - driving that poor doesn't belong on track, and its not his rookie year any more where a little more leniency could be expected.
@ab8jeh
@ab8jeh 13 часов назад
​@@foldionepapyrus3441Agree it should be a race ban, however the Schumacher penalty was a token gesture. He'd already lost the championship, I doubt he cared much.
@Roeland666
@Roeland666 12 часов назад
new fan spotted
@chrisc475
@chrisc475 10 часов назад
​@@Roeland666 I agree with the above comment, and I've been watching F1 for a very long time. If there was a risk of being black flagged he'd have to dial it down.
@ThaDutchDK1989
@ThaDutchDK1989 8 часов назад
foldionepapyrus3441 You forgot senna in Suzuka T1 on Prost . Got the championship by crashing out Prost . But you British all just forget those things , with blind hatred agianst Verstappen
@powerfulforce
@powerfulforce 6 часов назад
Well, when Verstappen had the entire 2021 full of such incidents and not a single penalty was awarded. Take Brazil Monza etc. once you give Max the forbidden fruit of success as a world driver champion, he is just gonna do what it takes to retain his title. After all, he wasn’t punished then, why now? The last 2 seasons was about him being strapped to a rocket 30s ahead of everyone else, no one could apply pressure on him. And right now, under pressure, we see the real Max returns.
@KevinCreighton
@KevinCreighton 14 часов назад
The episode of "Drive To Survive" about this race is going to be EPIC.
@yooz
@yooz 14 часов назад
Who cares about a Netflix series?! Just watch the races and move on
@Hungary_0987
@Hungary_0987 13 часов назад
​@@yoozR/woooosh
@17peteclarke
@17peteclarke 13 часов назад
probably not, they'd likely not cover this and instead do another 10 minutes of paddock walking filler content
@FTRRacingTv
@FTRRacingTv 13 часов назад
@@17peteclarke more time at Christians home with Geri asking if Max is still the best and Christian saying yes cause he still winning for us
@17peteclarke
@17peteclarke 13 часов назад
@@FTRRacingTv 100% lol
@delxinogaming6046
@delxinogaming6046 10 часов назад
Masterclass by Norris to keep the car in one piece given Max’s attempt to crash..
@thesunnynationg
@thesunnynationg 14 часов назад
0:57 Sainz wasn't even in Verstappens mind, he still went for it...
@wezob4569
@wezob4569 8 часов назад
That's an Aryton Senna move. Or even a Michael Schumacher move. That's exactly how those guys raced when they were in desperate situations.
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 13 часов назад
After Austin I said that as long as the stewards keep giving Max that leeway they will be teaching drivers that making the corner isn't important as long as your nose is ahead at the apex and people argued that I was wrong. It certainly looks like the FIA are looking at the way the rule is written and enforced now. It's amazing to me that they removed the line from 2023 on that said the "defending" driver had to stay on track. Why would they remove that? Credit to Max for realizing the weakness in the rules.
@desshinnick9365
@desshinnick9365 12 часов назад
The FIA have said they will have wording for new rules for people to check out at Qatar. In the interim the grey area is there for Brazil, Las Vegas and Qatar and likely Abu Dhabi. Is someone going to end up in the wall because of this.
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 11 часов назад
@@desshinnick9365 All you have to do is force anyone overtaking at the end of a straight to take the outside, don't brake so you are ahead at the apex, and it's your corner. It's particularly dumb because in Austin Lando had completed the pass on Max before the braking zone but they designated Max as "defending" ... had they counted Lando's pass on the straight Max would have been "attacking" and the language of staying on the track is there so he would have lost the spot on track and may have faced a penalty. It's a really dumb situation the FIA got themselves in. That said, I love F1 because of people finding the cracks in the rules and exploiting them ... this one is just more dangerous than most technical innovations.
@desshinnick9365
@desshinnick9365 11 часов назад
@@Scoots1994 Yeah I think the dumb situation is that the rule has real issues and the FIA are taking too long to deal with it. Technically a driver can put another into the wall in Las Vegas, and still be within the rules. The next few races can be really scary.
@steve4880
@steve4880 10 часов назад
​@@Scoots1994 Anyone with DRS is the attacking driver, and Norris never made a complete pass in Austin.
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 9 часов назад
@@desshinnick9365 To be clear these have been the rules for 2 years, and if you put someone into a wall it's a penalty now hopefully.
@doug3011
@doug3011 13 часов назад
the second one max clearly didnt intend to make the corner and was thinking if he takes Lando out or Lando crashes he didnt care.
@Dwerg
@Dwerg Час назад
I get Palmer wants to see the championship play out with fair racing, because it would increase Landos chance to become champion. But Max is gonna do what he's gotta do to become champion, and the fact that Palmer can't even show the slightest appreciation for that makes it clear he's biased.
@amjads8933
@amjads8933 14 часов назад
No more F1 open lobby racing please
@edcoughlan1035
@edcoughlan1035 9 часов назад
Why not? It’s entertaining af
@nicholasriley3569
@nicholasriley3569 10 часов назад
In any other sport repeatedly deliberately fouling your opponent would result in a sending off, or even a ban.
@Dude-etiquette
@Dude-etiquette 4 часа назад
What about a review of why Perez still has a drive with red bull
@coys-x3f
@coys-x3f 13 часов назад
As a Hamilton fan I remember quite well, how we have been called crybabies in 2021, but now anyone is seeing the truth about Verstappen. Except for his fans of course. I am happy that the FIA is finally taking action on this unsportsmanlike and dangerous behaviour. Well deserved penalty. Anyways, curious to see, how his fans will defend him this time 😂
@rogue2888
@rogue2888 13 часов назад
Easy, Silverstone
@harrydrees9714
@harrydrees9714 13 часов назад
At least Max isn't friends with P Diddy like lewis 😊
@deshaanpillay9810
@deshaanpillay9810 13 часов назад
@coys-x3f, you're totally right. There's nothing wrong with being an aggressive driver. But when you're aggressive and put others in danger, thats when it becomes dangerous.
@ab8jeh
@ab8jeh 13 часов назад
Silverstone every time. Have you guys got anything else? ​@@rogue2888
@flacohernandez4380
@flacohernandez4380 13 часов назад
@@rogue2888 Silverstone was Karma haha. He is lucky it was not worse, you would have though that would teach that sociopath a lesson but it did not. That is why the FIA need to make an example out of him
@indianajons5847
@indianajons5847 7 часов назад
What surprises me is how there are people defending Max at this point... releasing the brakes to push someone else off and avoid being overtaken should be punishable. Regardless of who gets first to the apex... That should be clear. Perez did it to Lawson too and nothing is being said. The difference? Lawson is not battling for the title, so he can take the risk and decide to make the second corner and push Perez back.
@YGhost_05
@YGhost_05 10 часов назад
Next time Verstappen makes an absurd move like this one they should penalise him even more this is a ridiculous and a childish manner to defend his title
@rickkuny6591
@rickkuny6591 9 часов назад
Well Max gave it up right there in his interview. We just don’t have the pace, the underlying meaning I’ll just take out my competitor by any means because we don’t have the pace to beat them on the track
@anibalorta
@anibalorta 10 часов назад
100% agree with Palmer.. finally someone that is not blindly bias to maxs favoritism
@PK-ze4sf
@PK-ze4sf 12 часов назад
The second move 5:30 it was for BLACK FLAG! Obviously he doesnt want only to try to damage landos car but his main target was to ruin the race of lando to lose the 1st place thats why obviously he deserve black flag...As a result...he ruin the race of lando....he take also points for his place to Championship and FIA is flying kite since 2021 with Hamilton.
@gnaihccn
@gnaihccn 6 часов назад
80% of people comment with hamilton is non-sense here. With the worse pace car than mercedes, max is playing his race with fastest car-Norris, where hamilton mistaken zhou as a mclaren.
@IAmPhos548
@IAmPhos548 12 часов назад
Max knows a crash with Norris helps him. T8 was absolutely worthy of a drive-through penalty imho. He knows the only way Norris has a chance is if Norris keeps getting 25 or 26 points a weekend. I'm all for aggressive divebombs, but they need to be actually possible divebombs, not just yeeting it into a corner and basically telling Norris to get out of the way or crash. Max also knows that keeping Norris behind him hurt Lando's chance at winning, which is exactly what Norris needs. Max has taken the rules to the absolute extreme and the rules regarding moves like Max into T8 should seriously be looked at for harsher penalties to prevent drivers from doing ridiculous moves like it
@giancarlofisichella7912
@giancarlofisichella7912 2 часа назад
An ex paydriver likes to tell us how the professionals drive. How many races has Jolyon Palmer actually won? 0 races
@_ilsegugio_
@_ilsegugio_ 13 часов назад
ofc Max knows that any double DNF would grant an advantage in the big picture If he's going to be as reckless in next races I hope he gets punished even more, or soon enough someone's going to get badly hurt
@notastone4832
@notastone4832 11 часов назад
hes been doing this in f1 since 2016.. has he hurt someone? no...
@bujfvjg7222
@bujfvjg7222 9 часов назад
Motorsport is dangerous. It says so on the tickets......
@OnlineHipHopTV
@OnlineHipHopTV 9 часов назад
No need to explain. Mad Max was at it again. We all know
@bayuardiantoid
@bayuardiantoid 5 часов назад
F1 should introduce long lap penalty as in motogp. so, instead of keep holding the cars behind him when he had time penalty, he needs to go through a specific slow section of a track outside of the actual track, and it should be mandatory within the next few laps, and then rejoin the race seamlessly.
@359noScope
@359noScope 28 минут назад
I.e. force them to take the penalty at pitstop straight away
@spacemanmat
@spacemanmat 10 часов назад
The penalties need to escalate against Max until he stops this dangerous behaviour.
@skewz
@skewz 9 часов назад
Verstappen has proven his driving style time and time again as nothing more than an amateur reckless driving with zero respect to basic racing rules. Verstappen is exactly what Vettel described Kyvat back in 2016 in China. A reckless torpedo.
@M69392
@M69392 3 часа назад
Reckless: yes. Amateur: please be serious.
@pindadopje0162
@pindadopje0162 13 часов назад
Better question why didn’t max get any in Austin 😂
@CoxaBranca
@CoxaBranca 8 часов назад
Max's biggest problem is that if the car is not fast enough to be way out in the lead, he can't resist racing unfairly against others around.
@tomlam8684
@tomlam8684 11 часов назад
But why was the turn 4 penalty 10, not 5 seconds?
@massmedia_it
@massmedia_it 10 часов назад
Because he had no intention to turn, just aming for the apex and doesn’t care about the turn… ( as in Austin, should be penalized also there )
@thijspiersma
@thijspiersma 9 часов назад
​@@massmedia_ithow about russel on bottas last week?
@MIEJ4
@MIEJ4 9 часов назад
@@thijspiersmathat wasn’t deemed to be deliberate, so got reduced to 5s.
@edsurpes5283
@edsurpes5283 6 часов назад
Palmer, you are a Norris fan. Like all the stewards.
@RogueCylon
@RogueCylon 11 часов назад
Erstappen has and always will be a missile. He can’t drive tactical, only angry.
@MikesTropicalTech
@MikesTropicalTech 5 часов назад
Finally for the first time in his career of forcing other drivers off-track, he's getting the penalties he deserves.
@AshleighKinsella
@AshleighKinsella 13 часов назад
At 1:31 - 1:34 Max Verstappen should have known better not to overtake there. The way he did it was he was on the F1 game with no spacial awareness. Silly move & really mind boggling.
@jacksteven781
@jacksteven781 3 часа назад
He wasn't trying to "just make a pass". He was trying to take Lando out of the race. Get it right. This is the dirtiest driving we have seen from him yet. He should've been disqualified. It was blatantly dangerous
@Becky_Cooling
@Becky_Cooling 13 часов назад
Well actually, Max received 2 separate penalties not 'a penalty'
@bcharlz2513
@bcharlz2513 9 часов назад
I am not new to F1 but definitely not someone that has been watching F1 for the last 20+ years. But someone help me understand...so Is racing about being faster and out driving your opponent or is it about sabotaging your rival to keep them from winning @5:59? Same thing he was doing to Lewis in 2021 no?
@nikhileshkillada4217
@nikhileshkillada4217 12 часов назад
Okay, but Perez didn't even get a penalty for his move on Stroll. The inconsistency is what bothers me.
@juzoli
@juzoli 12 часов назад
Which position they were fighting for?
@nikhileshkillada4217
@nikhileshkillada4217 11 часов назад
@@juzoli doesn't matter. The stewards shouldn't see the position before dishing out penalties.
@steve4880
@steve4880 9 часов назад
He did the same to Lawson, Perez drove him completely off the track in turn 4, but instead of bailing through the grass, Lawson got his elbows out and got back around Perez in turn 5 to show it can be done.
@juzoli
@juzoli 8 часов назад
@ It does, because they have limited capacity, and they are focusing on the people who matter in the race or in the championship.
@nikhileshkillada4217
@nikhileshkillada4217 7 часов назад
@@juzoli shouldn't be that way. If it is, then, FIA needs to assign more stewards. The battles at the back are just as important, not just to the teams and drivers but to the fans of those teams. There are benefits to finishing higher in the championship than your rivals. For example, Haas finishing sixth would be a massive result and should be an even bigger story than McLaren/Ferrari winning the championship.
@greyone40
@greyone40 11 часов назад
Part of the game now is that the gamble of taking penalties is not a great risk because there is often a safety car than can make them irrelevant. The best point made is that we want to see the results decided by the drivers contesting each other, not involving a lot of input from the stewards. Carlos drove a great race, and this is what is being talked about. Oh well. How about the save Leclerc pulled off near the end?
@cikame
@cikame 11 часов назад
I hate the first to the apex rule.
@alexanderstromer5106
@alexanderstromer5106 6 часов назад
Next time give Max the black flag. He needs to learn a lesson
@JaydonTobler
@JaydonTobler 12 часов назад
It’s kinda funny how everyone is like “I don’t understand why Max made this move, it seems so reckless.” Uh well I know why he made that move… he’s ahead in the championship and was trying to get Lando to crash. That’s it.
@boski112
@boski112 12 часов назад
Unlike Austin, Landonis sharpened his pencil "The Professor" style in Mexico. What a race it was!
@okaygoogle1582
@okaygoogle1582 14 часов назад
"Why Did Max Verstappen Receive A Penalty In Mexico?" really? he drove like a maniac road rage driver on the public highway. that's why.
@Noviomagus024
@Noviomagus024 14 часов назад
Brittish BS.
@Hungary_0987
@Hungary_0987 13 часов назад
​@@Noviomagus024keep crying about british Bs while Max intentionally crashes into people
@aravindhdeivag111
@aravindhdeivag111 13 часов назад
😂😂😂😂
@rickfewtrell8843
@rickfewtrell8843 13 часов назад
@@Noviomagus024max fans stub their toe and scream British bias
@asdowo111
@asdowo111 6 часов назад
What a useful and informative video which Max Verstappen fans are going to ignore.
@EybarxD
@EybarxD 13 часов назад
It really doesn't matter who is ahead of the apex, they are side by side, you just can't force another drive off even if you are like 3 inches ahead in the apex
@stysner4580
@stysner4580 12 часов назад
Read the rules.
@therealturbofanisme
@therealturbofanisme 5 часов назад
Verstappen actually hit Norris both times. The stewards could have easily added a 3rd and even 4th penalty of causing a collision with another driver.
@reet-ko9lg
@reet-ko9lg 14 часов назад
These rules aren’t new to racing, but most F1 fans in this comment section seem to be.
@AshleighKinsella
@AshleighKinsella 13 часов назад
Well actually i'm not a new F1 fan. I'm only 24 and started watching when i was eight years old with my grandfather.
@thesighbored
@thesighbored 6 часов назад
Max getting penalty? That's 10 seconds for Ocon.
@supermccnasty4176
@supermccnasty4176 13 часов назад
Max has zero wheel to wheel racecraft outside of “let me pass or I’m gonna hit you”
@Eef-gr3ym
@Eef-gr3ym 13 часов назад
😂😂😂
@Vladi48mir
@Vladi48mir 10 часов назад
3 world championships say otherwise
@edcoughlan1035
@edcoughlan1035 9 часов назад
Yet Senna receives adoration for doing the exact same?
@marclangman4836
@marclangman4836 7 часов назад
@@Vladi48mirfastest car, not best driver.
@Vladi48mir
@Vladi48mir 6 часов назад
@@marclangman4836 tell that to perez
@johnp8206
@johnp8206 11 часов назад
Verstappen is great driver but not at all the champion people think he is. He's still very immature and as other teams cars improve, he's struggling to hold onto his monumental lead. The lead and landslide of victories he's amassed the last several years.
@pdublt3d
@pdublt3d 11 часов назад
Max is further damaging his already bad reputation with his 'win at all costs' attitude. Lando starting to win these tough altercations. Karma doing it's thing.
@Rl4hunnid
@Rl4hunnid 48 минут назад
What’s no one seems to talk about is how forcing a driver off track was penalized with a 5 sec penalty last week and now it’s 10 sec all of a sudden
@allymon
@allymon 10 часов назад
Does anyone realize that Max got his second 10-second penalty on lap 20 and did not enter the pits until lap 27? By that time, Sainz had built up a 15-second lead. If Max had gone into the pits within 2 laps of receiving his penalty like other drivers normally do, Lando more than likely would have won because Sainz would have only been about 6 or 7 seconds ahead. Max should have received a BLACK FLAG for not entering the pits in an appropriate time after receiving his penalty. That cost Lando the victory.
@steve4880
@steve4880 10 часов назад
Stop crying. F1 has never forced a driver to take a timed penalty in "x" amount of laps under these current regulations. It's always been under a pitstop or time added on at the end of the race. Did you see Norris pit in Austin to take his 5 second penalty at the end of the race? NOPE!!!!
@thijspiersma
@thijspiersma 9 часов назад
Your first race? @allymon
@allymon
@allymon 9 часов назад
@@thijspiersma Nope. It just makes me upset that the stewards are allowing Max to take the constructors championship away from McLaren, which is my favourite team, with his antics. Ferrari is just sitting back and capitalizing on the situation or colluding with Red Bull.
@allymon
@allymon 8 часов назад
@@steve4880 Austin was different because of the timeframe in which Lando received the penalty. He got his penalty on the last lap, so what are you talking about. Max had enough laps left in the race for him to have an influence on the outcome by staying out, impeding Lando and not taking his penalty in the appropriate amount of time. He eventually came in when he felt he had done enough damage to Landos race.
@D.H.1987
@D.H.1987 7 часов назад
Max his dad Jos was teammates with Schumacher in 1994 for those who don't remember. He saw what worked that year. He teached max and here we are
@alx.972
@alx.972 13 часов назад
I missed the moments when these ,,objective and impartial british analysts” have examined Hamilton s crashes from last season or this season when their hero could have recreated spa 2012 in Miami if Alonso wouldn t have avoided his divebomb at the start
@danlanch
@danlanch 9 часов назад
The sauber Zhou comment 😂 😂 what a burn 🔥
@mkganya6013
@mkganya6013 14 часов назад
2:58 Zhou: Mujhe kyun toda?
@kieronmoodley7526
@kieronmoodley7526 10 часов назад
Penalties should be served within 3 laps like it used to be
@cleberalves1702
@cleberalves1702 13 часов назад
Now there needs to be a video calling Senna anti-ethical just for consistency. Drivers should be judged based on the regulations not on peoples feelings on what driving ethics are supposed to mean.
@bobhoya801
@bobhoya801 11 часов назад
Did Lando do the same to max last season? Must have missed that.
@David-qv3us
@David-qv3us 8 часов назад
When you driving the 3rd fastest car on the grid, thats what you could do
@coty994
@coty994 13 часов назад
Ohh, but you loved senna prost rivalry..😂😂
@ThaDutchDK1989
@ThaDutchDK1989 8 часов назад
All British don’t like it you mention this 😉 hypocrites . Schumacher crashed into multiple people stopped on track in Monaco
@YodaBrah
@YodaBrah 12 часов назад
If it were Sainz or Leclerc, Verstappen would let them pass. Norris on the other hand, is his title contender. Verstappen doesn't care if he wrecks Norris. It one less race for his 4th tile. Similar minded what he did to Hamilton in 2021.
@willhapgood3986
@willhapgood3986 9 часов назад
Ridiculous amount of skill needed to keep avoiding Verstappen having his meltdown
@roy12525
@roy12525 5 часов назад
Verstappen should be given a drive through penalty in the next race if he does this again.
@simon199418
@simon199418 9 часов назад
Palmer did the right thing to become a commentator.
@Incriveles
@Incriveles 4 часа назад
And the rule still the same “If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you no longer a race driver”
@Premchand-cd6ci
@Premchand-cd6ci 13 часов назад
Magnussen did this so his teammate could get some points. Not a problem. Commendable infact. Max does it to win the championship.. sportsmanship.. racing ethics.. not what we want to see 😂
@ab8jeh
@ab8jeh 13 часов назад
You're trying to make a point but failing miserably. The Max move here was just plain dangerous and reckless. If you're referring to Miami, such a dumb comparison. It's clear Max is targeting Norris with his car.
@notastone4832
@notastone4832 11 часов назад
@@ab8jeh cry more.
@leedehao
@leedehao 5 часов назад
To really teach him a lesson they should ban him for 1 race and dock 50 points. See how he'll cry about that
@yingcluk
@yingcluk 12 часов назад
The 2nd one was dangerous. He should get at least a black & white flag warning or even license point deductions.
@olivernewcombe466
@olivernewcombe466 12 часов назад
Great race on Mexico 🎉🎉🎉🎉🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🇲🇽🇲🇽 can't wait for the race in Brazil this weekend. Between max McLaren Mercedes and Ferrari 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
@AnshulSingh1
@AnshulSingh1 11 часов назад
Max will win the championship. He is ahead on points and will crash in Lando if needed. Just a sore loser already. He did the same during 2021.
@janwillem2656
@janwillem2656 11 часов назад
Say you're a Lewis fan without saying you're a Lewis fan.😅
@btimec5290
@btimec5290 8 часов назад
@@janwillem2656 Or maybe just a fan of fair competition.
@RickGrimes4477
@RickGrimes4477 9 часов назад
2:57 DONT YOU EVER DISRESPECT MY GOAT ZHOU AGAIN!!!
@fablewalls
@fablewalls 27 минут назад
If you go back and watch Verstappen vs Raikkonen from Spa 2016 and listen to the comments afterwards by both drivers - it's pretty clear what Max was all about and how he raced. How commentators like Palmer are saying "at this point" 9 years later is beyond me.
@Przemro9
@Przemro9 13 часов назад
I love Horner's complete lack of self awerness, I almost died laughing when he did that printout with journalists all around him like some secret agent spilling secrets. I think it's even more insane because of the contrast between his attitude in US and this week in Mexico, it's tragic but so funny at the same time... :P
@tomwijgers
@tomwijgers 6 часов назад
Yep. Of course you can go faster into the corner when you're not worrying about placing the car perfectly for the next. You can also tell the second was 500% a penalty because he said it was 'arguably' a penalty.
@paradoxworkshop4659
@paradoxworkshop4659 11 часов назад
If he wants to play bumper cars instead of racing, he should move to NASCAR.
@GoldCountrySRA
@GoldCountrySRA 13 часов назад
Seems like the second penalty VER was retaliating for what he thought was Lando overtaking off track at T4....childish really.
@bujfvjg7222
@bujfvjg7222 8 часов назад
Everyone is a child, you only grow older. Ego is rife lol
@GoldCountrySRA
@GoldCountrySRA 7 часов назад
true enough, everyone has childish tendencies. Growth is moving past those
@NxDoyle
@NxDoyle 9 часов назад
As long as Max can maintain the championship lead, he doesn't care about a double DNF with Lando.
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