Why Did Nobody Buy The Greatest Jaguar? | Jaguar XJ220 

Yeah, it was a huge mistake

the thing is the v6 version was way faster than the v12 in the testing but yea ure right tho

Personally, I'd gladly take the V6 of the Metro 6R4 group B rally car (with two added turbos) over a V12 with 50% higher fuel consumption, double the maintenance and repair costs and worse power and torque, any day! Nobody seems to have mentioned that.

they also ditched the 4wd :-(

The typical British “that will do” mentality. That’s why Britain’s car industry is gone as a whole. They can’t seem te bother.

Cause of the excessive top speed.

On a practical standpoint, a turbo V6 could be even more effective than an "atmospheric" V12. It's the display, "showy" aspect to draw to the V12, and many wealthy buyers will never bring their supercars to the track, so no wonder a V6T "hypercar" hasn't meet the success the productor hoped for - At the time, turbocharging still was considered to be a cheap, crude way to have power. The "stigma" was to be challenged by cars such as the Bugatti EB110, which got along with turbos by attaching (four of!) them to a V12, but the XJ220 still was unfortunately too early in the game.

@@TenorCantusFirmus turbocharging is still a cheap, crude and easy way to gain power 🤷‍♂️

@@surrealtom Perhaps, but perception has improved. By nowadays, a good turbo engine isn't seen as inferior to a good "atmo" counterpart.

@@TenorCantusFirmus unless the engine is painfully underpowered, I'd still go naturally aspirated. Frankly, if I do have to use forced induction, I'd rather use a supercharger because of the linear power curve. Notable exceptions: F40, 288GTO, Veyron SS, K24 swap in a light car, Huayra Roadster.

It certainly wasn't jaguar's finest hour haha. Old footage, new video!

Lucky fellow 👍 My favourite car !

It's not a sim racer, it's an arcade racer.

Thank you! glad you enjoyed! It's hard to say really. The V12 would have been naturally aspirated, and a lot heavier, but with a larger power output. It most likely would have gone faster in a straight line, slower round bends, and cost even more hahaha. But just imagine the sound! I have actually seen the original V12 concept car (its at the British Motor Museum), and I have to add that the V12 engine looks a lot cooler through the cover.

Most customers had signed up for a car with the engine based on a two time le mans winner, XJR14 ability aside the Bernie engine was certainly not what was intended originally nor desired by the customers.

Not forgetting it should have been 4wd too!

Likely not all that much faster considering it still got a full fledged race motor

JAGUAR XJ220 - V 12 High paying clients were blown away by the looks of the Jaguar ! In fact out of the 3 cars: I. Jaguar XJS 220 II. Lamborghini Diablo V12 III. Ferrari F40 V8 Twin Turb ( People were visibility bored by Maranello's old 70's marketing stunt, that is flog a model that had been seen everywhere the last 2 years !) People were stunned, excited and to be honest absolutely blown away by the Jaguar XJS 220. Lamborghini's BEST was and still is in my view, the Diablo. At least Lamborghini brought out the Diablo SVJ ! But the cheque books were ALL out for the new dazzling Jaguar! It would turn into a nightmare soon enough. The beautiful shape of the XJS 200 could not accommodate a V12 allegedly. FACT Money 💰 talks and BS walks ! DIABLO The pre-1992 Diablo's still considered A collector's item as they were built by Lamborghini prior to the Chrysler buy out. The Diablo SVJ could do over 200 mph, but debate rages whether the Italian built Lamborghini Diablo's could. Owners of the Diablo VT claim their Diablo's could do over 200 mph . . . No problemo! Spanner in the Works The McLaren F 1 and the Ferrari F 50 The latter, laughably, had a Formula 1 engine strapped to its body. At that time, thanks to a badly misquoted Jeremy Clarkson review of the F 50, people ignorantly wrote off the F 50 as slow. Ferrari did NOT market the F50 well and it was soon forgotten and up u til 2015 thought of as slower than its F 40 predecessor. McLaren F1 Blew everyone away. That shape and its amazing speed. The McLaren F 1 was touted as the world's fastest road car. This was off course BS. WHY - Recent tests have repeatedly demonstrated that the F50 could easily blow the McLaren F1 away as could SVJ Diablo's. F 50 Owners.... Irate Most F 50 owners were too frightened to use its crazy power and speed. McLaren knew this and developed the McLaren F1 GTR. Ferrari reciprocated and launched the extremely powerful F 50 GTR. Brutally fast, but like the 288 GTO built for a racing class that never came to fruition. By 2015 a group of F 50 aficionados had had enough. They repeatedly raced McLaren F 1's and the top end quicker F 50 easily humiliated a shocked F1 owner !

The series was actually called Fast Masters and I was at the first race at Indianapolis Raceway Park. It was the mini oval with a detour into the infield for a quasi-chicane. Man, the carnage was immediate and long lasting! I don't think a quarter of the cars made it to the end. It was hilarious.

Thanks for the kind words!

@FlyingElk, I was thinking the very same. That is the game that made love the xj220 even more, this video is the greatest on RU-vid for using the music from the game . I've save the link to this video just to remind, and watch it over again. Now starting Realestate investing, I think I'm going to buy a xj220. If there one available of course, they're a collectibles now.

Honestly... THIS IS the type of video Gran Turismo SHOULD had as well, on informative side of the car history. Like when Forza hired Jermy Clarkson to make cometaries about the cars. Or Jeremy, James and Richard making the comments about the car class history again in Forza.

Still looks modern today, what a beauty

The Metro 6R4 had a 3ltr V6 without turbos and put out 400bhp in race tune! The XJ220 had the engine taken out from 3.0 to 3.5ltr and twin turbos added to give 542bhp. The XJ22S had the boost turned up giving 680bhp!

Something a lot of people who don’t remember when this car came out just don’t understand. I remember potential owners like Elton John actually forfeit their deposits when the engine change happened *after* their deposits were made.

even with a v12 it wouldnt have sold. million pounds plus in todays money is just toooo much!!

@@themysterycook7320 You’d be surprised how many were pre-ordered. Potential owners just gave up their deposits.

@@nicholastotoro7721 yep, i think i was incorrect. my bad. still think the xjr 15 was a lot better. yeah, i know that wasnt a factory jag. still a milllion pounds plus in todays money, i mean there are only 4 members of the BAnd Queen..Freddie/May and Deacon and the other bloke bought them all?

Or make it a twin turbo V12

Or, or, one V12 in each wheel?

@@louislavoie1238 Make it make sense..

It would have been seen as a worse McLaren F1 like the F50 eventually was (unfair).

I just see this as cope. Wealthy buyers dont tune. They want a good experience. They bait and switched the v12 and deservedly ate shit for it. The car looks beautiful but it deserved to die.

Wait it was really that motor??

@@Spherz as far as I can tell yes it was

@@anhondacivic6541 makes it 10x more amazing

Thanks! Plenty more on the way :)

@@automobilistic do one on Tommy Kaira ZZII

Same!

Thanks! Really glad you enjoyed the video!

@@automobilistic you're welcome! I subscribed too 👍

That's Jaguar through and through. Applied the same principal to their LeMans racers

XJ220 looks as good today, as it did in the 90's.

I've seen a couple in person, I felt it looked better than pictures. Pictures dont convey the presence and sheer size of the thing!

Pissed off? They still managed to sell 275 contraptions to rich idiots!

While the LM Dauer 962 did clock over 400km/h officially, I'm pretty sure that the road homologated version of the 962 was never actually officially tested. I know that it took McLaren 4 years to have the F1 officially recognised as the fastest production car, so I'm assuming the reason Dauer didn't choose to peruse it was because its expensive and a logistical headache, especially if you want to sell the road cars to fund racing efforts. The 962 goes in the same category as the TVR speed 12 - possibly the fastest at the time, but never officially tested or recognised. I could be completely wrong though hahaha

@@automobilistic Mmmmm it might be possible, but still, a fact that can't be denied is the official Le Mans 1994 speed traps that clocked the Dauer during pratice at around 340 (let's remember, in these years the protos still with a connection to the Group C predecessors - and the Dauer was AN '88 962C IN FULL DISGUISE - had to rely mostly on the boost, and on pratice they went on 100% turbo, whilst in race, about 80% to avoid an inevitabile engine breakdown). Hence, if even at full boost they never reached even 370 like the Group C 962 Porsche did (Dauer's could had perform like the latter if not more but in '94 the speef was limited by the Hunaudières chicanes, not present in '88) so your opinion might be wrong. Remember: 370 without chicanes and 340 with chicanes. But never, even by the official Porsche 962C, over 400. The only 3 cars to have reached such speeds were the 917 LH in '71 (396 for Porsche, 385 for A.C.O.), Sauber-Mercedes C9 '88 (around 400) and the formidable WR-Peugeot "Project 400" '89 (409 kph, sadly downgraded by Peugeot in a marketing move to promote it's brand new "405"). PS: Sorry for my long message, but when it comes to Le Mans' stuff I am like a busted dam! 😅 I will do more research in my personal Le Mans' Archive and online to solve this "Dauer's Denied Record Mystery" once for all! 👍😊

@@grandicellichannel From what I have read The Dauer 962 road car did in fact achieve an independently recorded speed of 404km/h, but it did so in 1998. Some outlets chose to recognise this as the successor to the McLaren F1, and predecessor to the Bugatti Veyron, but most simply ignored/forgot about it. The LM version did appear to reach over 400km/h, but not at Sarthe or during a race, simply during later tests. Again, I can't verify all the details beyond doubt, but that's the picture I have from what I've seen. You've dragged me down this rabbit hole!

@@grandicellichannel Not sure where your top speed figures are from the the 917 but all speed trap figures I've seen from various official sources suggest the 1971 917LH recorded the quickest trap speed at 'just' 362kmh, the Ferrari being quickest in practice that year at 359. The Ford's were quicker than any 917 prior to 71. Plenty was suggested about the Porsche top speed being a calculation from the revs but it didn't account for tyre slip hence the exaggerated figures. The quickest race speeds pre chicane being the WMs in 87 and 88 at 379 and 405 and the Jag in 89 at 389. Quickest 956 was 374 in practice and quickest 962 was 391 in 88. The Sauber hit 400 in practice in 89. All from the ACO figures and recorded at the same spot just before the kink at post 60. Just as another bit of info, the 1987 P87 WM recorded a testing speed of 416km/h on a yet to be opened motorway but the car failed very early in the race after 13 laps, but the teams own radar recorded 407 rather than the the official trap speed from the ACO of 381.

@@automobilistic The Jag and the Dauer didn't officially hold the fastest production car title as to he j as g was modified further than the normal version and only ran in one direction to set a time recorded by Jaguar. The Dauer didn't have a valid VIN number to be eligible when it independently set the 404km/h.

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Yes, as I say in the video. I'd have been pretty annoyed if I'd ordered one hahaha

@@automobilistic I would told them where to stick in NO uncertain terms and bought the F40 or Lambo instead!!!!

No he didnt fail in anything. What engine it is is irrelevant, it's a 3.5L V6. If people wanna know what engine it is, they can google it. He makes short videos, not 100% detailed videos. What a dumb way to tell someone theres info they didn't mention by starting with the word fail, you're a fail.

They have a common history

@@SvenElven Oh i didnt know that.

Who wouldn't?

They were going to use some V12 engines from the XJR series Group C cars (like the one used in the XJR-15), however the decision was made to continue racing, and so the engines were allocated to the race cars. It was too expensive to build new V12 engines for the XJ220, as the budget was constructed around using engines that had already been built but weren't going to be used, except they were used. Thats my understanding at least. Needless to say it was a big mistake from Jag, even though the Metro V6 was still an excellent engine