Thank you for explaining Acts 29 Curches they seem to fall over themselves to please blacks, that would not suit me, because I am not a victim. GOD BLESS ❗
I couldn't imagine a better person to answer this question. Thank you addressing this question. Many would bury it or conform so as to not offend instead of taking a moral and biblical stand without fear. I appreciate pastor Joel Webbons living example. HalleluYAH
I have worked in Corporate America for over 20 years and hear so many churches reflect buzz words like diversity in the church. Some churches reflect the world more than Christ. Thanks for explaining and i do enjoy the videos. God Bless.
I grew up in the "black church"! There is nothing more devoid of Biblical truth and trained pastors, yet filled with "politicism", as what I grew up under, from men and even women who should never have been in the pulpit! (Former A.M.E.)
@@rbelf001 Chances are, the only thing you missed was a lot of "social gospel" nonsense! The focus on Bible doctrine takes a "backseat" to political leanings, (Democrat), in the A.M.E. church! Extremely liberal!
Amen. I would add that our churches should not be focused on any specific demographic including age. Many churches target minorities by passing others who need the gospel and most churches now target young families and even tailor their services to attract young families and focus on young people to the exclusion of older generations.
I didn’t even know what Acts29 church was (thankfully) but I really appreciated what you shared here Pastor Joel. As someone who grew up in the 60’s and fully supported the work of Martin Luther King and was appalled by the segregation in American society, I’m deeply disturbed to see that we are now going unraveling everything he stood for by making everything about colour. It’s utter insanity!! Thanks for sharing your experience with Acts29 though. I appreciate your direct approach to issues. May the Lord continue to bless you and your church community. 🕊🙏🇨🇦
Currently at an acts 29 church here in Fort Worth and while the spirit is active and working there is definitely an obsession among the staff about how we “look” as a church. Pastor always pushing for ethnic people to be on stage, only women reading scripture and leading prayer on Mother’s Day, whole Sundays dedicated to racial reconciliation complete with a “panel” of token black members (some of who admit to feeling pressured and weird about it). I would have left before now but after much prayer I do believe God still wants my family there. I could use prayer to have wisdom to know where to lead my family and courage to speak truth in a honoring tone with others at my church, I’ve definitely made several of my fellow partners quite mad reposting your videos haha.
Fort Worth is a big city. Probably got a few murder mills there. If you want to expose the hypocrites, wear a shirt that says "Abortion is Murder!" and ask them if Black Lives in the womb Matter? I 100% guarantee you that the churchy Pharisees will come out of the woodwork to call you "unloving."
The Well Boulder got kicked out for pushing back last winter. Coram Deo left earlier than that. Not a single concrete ounce of evidence of sin was leveled against my pastors, elders, or congregation. Foolproof Theology has the whole call recorded and posted because of lies about members and leaders of our church.
It takes no courage to speak against racism when that was essentially defeated long ago. Nobody will push back against a pastor who speaks against racism. Abortion is a different matter entirely.
@@austink641 He's being rightly ridiculed by the pastor in this video because he is virtue signaling a position that EVERYONE is against and pretending that he is "courageous" in doing so. It doesn't take courage to be politically correct and go along with the world. It takes courage to oppose it. It's like someone speaking out against the Holocaust 80 years after the fact. Ooh, that's so "brave." Now speak out against the Abortion Holocaust and sodomy and transgendering children and the Marxist jab, and get some pushback like real men of God do.
I wouldn't touch some of these a 29 church parking lots with a ten foot pole. I am so Glad that Jesus actually forgives our sins and doesn't treat us with contempt.
Woke is racism. Jesus said going to the world and preach the gospel. The word of God is not a social gospel it is a reconciling of fallen man to a holy God. We tend to make everything about ourselves and forget about the one who made everything!
Wow. I am going to listen to a few more of your videos. Hopefully I will become a partner. I like this video as I never knew of the Act 29 church. I will be doing research. Thank you.
I've never heard of an Acts 29 church or conference. Unfortunately, I've heard the line before- that the churches / events weren't diverse enough. Almost a month back actually, I was in a meeting of youth *leaders* and heard Revelation used: "every tribe and every tongue". I'm from a small town in GA, it's everywhere - nip it in the bud before it goes to far.
I really appreciate your ministry and the people that you are interviewing. You are doing an awesome job! So sad to see so many pastors go woke and we need to pray that God will allow them to repent. They are leading so many astray just as the political parties are. Their job is the shepherd the sheep. God bless
Diversity is always held up as a virtue, but where is the proof that this claim is valid ? Of course, we are not allowed to ask this question because diversity is not to be questioned, even when it's functionally racist...
This is really good!! I was part of Acts 29 church for many years. I loved it and didn’t leave cause of the teaching as I moved out of the area, BUT I saw this woke BS creeping in, not really knowing at the time what it was! Thanks Pastor Joel!
I'm a Master's Degree defect because my Christian Seminar went feminist, woke, leftist, racial-equalizer, and liberal. I don't want to be that, I just want to be a normal Christian man with the Holy Spirit.
@@aramisy.cajigas744 agreed brother. I want and have asked men of God to teach me and guide me into becoming a pastor as the seminaries are mostly Satanaries. I would rather be a Timothy to a Paul, or a disciple learning under Jesus himself. So far I haven’t got one to say yes yet. I’d rather be a man guided by the Spirit of truth rather than one with a fancy certificate.
@@michaelclark2458 Brother, I'd recommend you to pray to the Father to run into a Spirit-filled man of God that would lead you to the righteous path. Last year I asked the Father for a mentor, and a few months later I ran into a "homeless man" who kind of discipled me. We have parted ways already (and it breaks my heart, since I grew very fond of him) because God had other stages for us to go to, but he was the only one who confirmed everything the Father revealed me during those weeks of solitude in prayer. I wish you the best. Jah bless!
It is quite simple to evaluate a church. A church is not doing its job unless it is following the command Jesus gave in Matthew 28:19, 20. That means the church is "going" and making the kind of disciples Jesus commanded. The kind of disciples Jesus commanded are baptized, and taught to obey all Jesus commanded. That means they must be instructed and shown. If the church is only like flypaper it is not doing what a church should be doing. Jesus did not tell his disciples to get into small groups each week and talk about how to live the Christian life. One must be be equipped with correct doctrine and correct practice.
This was interesting and helpful. I have heard of Matt but do not know his teaching. I am guessing I am not missing much with not knowing anything about Acts 29 ministry but I do like to find out if any ministry is sound or not. I like F4F with Pastor Chris.
That is a great point. When have you ever heard a Pastor say, I Pastor a white church. Thanks Joel. I know this is old but I was just doing some research on Acts 29. Starting going to one a year and a half ago. Most days it feels right but sometimes I get a feeling I’m just not good enough to be on the elite team.
I'm so sick of 'cool' pastors & 'cool' churches - they are, by definition, achingly self-conscious, totally insincere & at best, skin deep. Jesus never was a 'dude' who 'hung out' with other cool dudes - He had a terrifyingly short time on earth to achieve all that he needed to do to fulfil the Father's plan for mankind - and that was ALL He cared about!!!
My wife and I were looking on line for churches, visited one and read their pamphlet where i stumbled upon a reference to Acts29, immediately it felt weird and im not saying it was wrong but i was curious and here i am listening to this video. I jokingly said to my wife we should search the net using " non woke, bible preaching churches around me" 🤦🏻♂️
Thank you for your courage and careful diagnosis. Satan is a deceiver and as I’ve heard you point out Scripture doesn’t connect false teaching with salvation so it’s not in our job description. That said we are told we’d recognize them by their fruit and in this case it’s bad fruit.
I went to an acts29 church for a little while and it became clear really fast that the only thing the church truly cared about was numbers and looking cool. very said. This was a great response.
Between the path Driscoll went, the path Chandler has gone, and the way the pastor/lead elder at my previous church (Acts 29 affiliated) seemed to approach leading a church, I've started to wonder if there's something built into it that fosters a personality cult approach to churches rather than a balanced arrangement where it isn't just a lead pastor & a few "accessory" elders? Or is it more likely the relative speed and ease of planting a church via Acts 29 rather than other affiliations just lends itself to attracting a lot of people who aren't fit for (or at least ready for) ministry?
Promise Keepers had a woke diversity thing going on with their conferences. I remember a communication from them that encouraged me to find a black to person to drive to the conference with. I was maybe the only person who ever had a hard time with this.
I live in an area of the country that is mostly Hispanic, and my church reaches out to the Hispanic community both in the US and Mexico in missionary outreach. (Mexico is only 5 miles from our location.) We welcome people of all races and ethnicities without discrimination, but we can only “diversify” inasmuch as diversity of other groups exists within a reasonable geographical distance from the church.
I recently left a acts29 church. I can back Joel up on this in saying he is exactly right. Especially his last comment about trying to be cool. Through the pandemic and shut downs in Oregon all the pastor cared about was outside perception and kept saying we needed to be "gospel centric" in our response to c@#$%. It was all about being "cool" Joel, if I were to ask you a acts29 question it would be to have you explain their idea of "gospel centric"? The term was always explained and used as more of a esoteric force than the biblical gospel?
You didn't quote the scripture to Love Thy Neighbor. Love Thy Neighbor is the complete idea of what you're talking about love thy neighbor and you didn't quote it
Pastor Joel, I am trying to understand all this; I do agree with Matt Chandler that Americans holistically don’t learn about other ethnicities and we should be a bit more intentional about engaging and learning different cultures, but I agree with you that not every church needs to be individually diverse...Have I gone woke?
There’s nothing wrong with an interest in learning about other cultures. Just don’t buy into the lie of ethnic Gnosticism or cultural Gnosticism, that assumes there are certain biblical truths that can only be truly comprehended by individuals with particular backgrounds. Also, don’t buy into the lie that all cultures are equally virtuous. If a culture values being on time, discipline, and objective observation (the scientific method), that culture’s values are superior a culture that values tardiness, laziness, and relativism.
Define what you mean by "holistically learn about other ethnicities". Sounds like a yeah they do care, but not enough, but I don't want to misunderstand your position. When I hear Chandler, he makes it sound like I'm somehow sinning by not making it my business to learn enough about other cultures. Which seems both odd and unbiblical to me.
Same happens over and over century repeats, christians are blind looking and waiting based on secular history reading is first Adam not awake still looking for salvation. Ecclesiastes 3:15: “That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been; and God seeks what has been driven away.” The “natural man” cannot grasp that, for to him reality is based only on the evidence of the senses. The man of reason could justify the verse’s end, saying if it has any meaning then the writer must mean recurrence. The sun comes every day and the moon completes its cycle and the seasons come and go. If we took a picture of the universe today, the scientists can compute how long it will take to return to this point in the picture. So the intellectual man could justify the verse; but that is not what is meant, for it is addressed not to the man of reason or the man of sense, but to the man of Imagination. What is it all about? “That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been, and God seeks what has been driven away.”
Matt Chandler is a social justice warrior and (as we just learned) a man with poor discernment and moral weakness. I want my leaders in the church to have moral integrity and a biblical worldview. He has fallen away from the faith. This video opened my eyes to Acts 29. I guess I should have known.
I think he is on Right Now Media. I have not ever followed him. But it is good to know who is who in these days of the church being exposed. Well, if you read the Word, in Revelation, Jesus exposes 7 churches.
@@RightResponseMinistries good on you RRM for having the obvious right response to this. Not hiding it and just putting it all out there. Bravo. I appreciate the clarity with which you display your hypocrisy. Cheers
