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First of all, what we call Genesis (in Hebrew the books of the Tannach / "Old Testament" don't have names) is often considered to be the oldest book (because it offers the story of the beginnings - but it really is the most recent one of the "Old Testament" written. Also - certainly when you do not read Hebrew - one often thinks that it is written by "one hand". That is not the case: a lot of "material" is - sometimes sloppily - coined together from different sources - from older Hebrew ones as well. There are many “writing hands” to see in the final Hebrew text. Hence the many “contradictions”. The first and oldest story of the origin of mankind was most likely a lot longer. What we find in the final Hebrew text is a remnant. Probably - but this is speculation - man was originally an androgynous being that was split into two equal halves: man and woman - both "equal beings". This “equality” was rejected at the time that "Genesis" was definitely composed. The woman is then created in the second story "out of" the man - as a subordinate. Not from a "rib", but from his side (the Hebrew word in casu can be translated in several ways, but the oldest translation in Greek gives: "side"). Later, an ancient Sumerian story (about the woman Lilith who eventually becomes an evil monster) is linked to the first creation story: Lilith then becomes the first wife of Adam who was rejected by him because she claimed rightfully to be "equal" and, for example, wanted to be "on top" during sex. She becomes a seductive "evil being". In the Middle Ages, the “snake” (which was not yet a snake at the time of the seduction: it only loses its legs as a punishment) is often depicted with the seductive head of Lilith. When the "Notre Dame de Paris" can be visited again: in one of the side entrances there is an image of it. But most beautiful is a painting by Hugo van der Goes: the "snake" with legs and with the seductive head of Lilith. www.artbible.info/art/large/291.html The story of Lilith is merely one of the stories “borrowed” from older literature. Other examples are: Noah and the Great Flood (also found in the Epic of Gilgamesh, based on an even older Sumerian Epic) and the story of Moses (in Sumerian: Sargon).
@@albertjanvanhoek294 First, you have to remember in religions of the world, the ignorant believe that everything needs to be born hence the reason for Lilith. The Hindu song asks, "How could that which is, be born of that which is not?" Most religions, even with their many gods, don't even try to explain creation before mankind. There is only one creation except for the animals. There was one creation of birds, fish, beasts and humans. Chapter 2 elaborates, probably, after the cursory creative process God gave him. I believe after digesting and writing it down, Moses then asks for a more detailed creation story of humans. Now after the creation of man and his insertion in the garden God created the domesticated fowl and animals, some as pets, others as helpmates that God had Adam name to introduce him to their use.(Gen 2:18) I believe Adam was even more lonely as he observed that they all had mates. So God created Eve as a complement, a help mate.(Gen2:21-23) The only thing she could help Adam with was populating (Gen 1:28) and helping in the garden. (Gen 2:15).
@@edetcetera Thank you for your reaction. In literature everything imaginable is possible. And every comment or addition on what is written is possible. For instance concerning that Hindu song: Nil posse creari de nihilo / Lucretius / De Rerum Natura Libri Sex, I: 156-157. One can believe what is written. Or one can see it as only literary fantasy. For me, "god" exists only in literature. Like Zeus, or Odin, or Inti, or Vishnu , or Amon-Re, or ... etc. But I respect everyone who believes.
Noah - "from toil of hands, this same shall be comforter of" Yahweh - "The Lifted High, this Same shall be Comforter of" woman - "this same shall be comforter of man" Weh - feminine term in Yahweh The Father shall overshadow, but the Holy Spirit is inside Mary means conception was done completely by God for this Son.
The reason satan tempted Eve is because his first attack was on the divinely ordained institution of the family. The command that prohibited mankind from eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was originally given to Adam BEFORE Eve was created from his rib. Eve received the same instruction secondhand from her husband. Thus the craftiness of the serpent's temptation. When he asks "Has God really said," satan is not calling into question God's integrity. God cannot lie, and both satan and the woman know it. Instead, satan is causing the woman to doubt whether or not she should trust her husband to lead her well, and he is causing her to suspect that her husband is withholding some good thing from her in order to keep her in submission to him. It is Adam's integrity being called into question, not God's. However, the Bible makes clear that "by one man sin entered into the world." This says to me that the first sin ever committed was not by Eve who was first to eat of the forbidden fruit, but rather a different sin committed by Adam. How so? Simply that Adam did not do what God had commanded him to do. Look back through the text and you will see that Adam received multiple commands from God concerning things that he was to do, in addition to the the single command that prohibited from doing one thing in particular. Many things to do. One thing not to do. Failing in either way is disobedience and therefore sin. Adam was given dominion. Adam was left in charge. Adam, as the head of his family and human regent of Eden, should have stood up for his wife and intervened on her behalf. But instead he commenced Operation Human Shield and hid behind his wife. When God again visits the garden and calls out "Where are you?" He is not playing along with Adam's game of hide and seek. God is omniscient and already knows where Adam is hiding. Instead, God's question to the man is actually a confrontation concerning the man's disobedience in failing to do the job he was assigned. Adam is AWOL. God is demanding that Adam explain why he has abandoned his post and has absconded from his duties. Eve's sin of eating the forbidden fruit was only possible because of Adam's prior failure to do as God had commanded him. Eve was deceived, the Bible tells us. Adam was not, which actually makes his sin that much worse.
A really good response in pointing out that the greater burden of responsibility was Adam's for the obvious reasons you pointed out. But I would have to say that Adam did sin as well. We have Paul's admonishion that thru the 1st Adam, sin came into being. Thru the second Adam, Jesus, salvation.
Sin came into the world when Adam ate the fruit, if eve had eaten alone and Adam stood strong by refusing to eat then i don't think it would have had much of an effect.
No, Eve was not created to prevent Adam from sin because he already had the Word of God for that: "But you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for on the day you eat from it, you will certainly die." Just as we have the gospel of Christ which is the power of God to draw us into the body of genuine Christians. Make no mistake about the fact that Adam was always the target of the serpent, not Eve. If he hadn't fallen mankind would not have fallen. He was the one who received God's command, not Eve. What was Adam's essential sin? He set aside the command of God (the Truth) and allowed himself to partake of the word (lie) of the serpent (Satan). Isn't that what we still do today on far too many occasions? But we will overcome the Adversary through Christ if we remain faithful to the end.
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I have a third possible explanation: although Eve was tempted and ate, when she offered some of the fruit, Adam could have refused and talked to God about it. God would have confirmed the consequences to Adam of Eve’s sin and offered Adam the option to die in her place. If Adam had agreed, Eve could have been restored. God could have resurrected Adam just like he did Jesus because Adam was without sin. That didn’t happen. Unfortunately, after Adam (who did not stop Eve before she ate because he did not know God well enough to realize God would NEVER deceive them) ate, it was THEN that their eyes were opened. Then they were both beyond the point of return. I base this possibility upon the reference to Jesus in the NT as “the last or second Adam” (I Cor 15:45-49). The Last Adam did what the First Adam failed to do and DID die for His bride, the Church and was Raised.
@@nicholasdimauro5324 nah Adam and Eve was made perfect and knew the consequences beforehand lol. If Adam didn’t eat most likely God would just replace Eve with another woman.
If you read the scriptures, it says Adam was with Eve when she eats from the tree. He, being the head of their family, should have stopped her. Instead, he watched her eat, and when she never dropped dead ,then he ate . It also says sin ented after he eat. I find it strange that preachers never talk about the fact he was with her. Or the fact that he blames Eve and also God .
My old pastor did emphasize those points. I see the order in which God asked them to explain their decisions as, God gave each of them a chance to take some responsibility. The man said, "You put a woman here to help me and instead she tricked me, what was I supposed to do, be an adult?" The the woman said, "Someone offered me something so I took it, what was I supposed to do, be an adult?" And God sent them into the harsh outside world to develop into adults so they wouldn't be so irresponsible. But the reason the serpent first offered the fruit to the woman is that she was a gatherer and more drawn to fruit.
You're right, Eve didn't sin because she didn't even recieve the command, Adam did. He failed as the leader God intended him to be and so sin entered the world. Very good point.
@@SuperPrettyPink101 She might not have gotten the command directly , but she was able to quoit it ,but not perfectly .She added the touch part. So she knew better.
@@fightsatan2408 "6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it." "she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it."
That was not the case. Prior to the fall there were no carnivores, not even among the animals. And neither were there nationalities. All mankind spoke the same language prior to the Tower Babel.
Some say Adam was willing to abandon his position with God because he didn't want to loose Eve. Disregarding that God could give him another, just as perfect.
Why was Satan in Eden, and why weren’t they warned about him? They didn’t have the knowledge of good and evil, so how could they discern if the serpent was wise or tempting?
Hello, On the topic of them not having knowledge of good and evil, this is a common misunderstanding. They could tell right from wrong. When God tells Adam to not eat from the tree he’s given to choices; obey (good), disobey (bad). In the text we see this too: Eve sees that the fruit was “good” for eating (Genesis 3:6). If she knows what’s good for eating, this implies she knows what is bad for eating. So they know the difference between good and bad, but not on God’s level and this is what the snake tempts Eve with, “to be like God” (Genesis 3:5). On the topic of the serpent, he wasn’t the real problem it was Adam. Adam is the one told to not eat the tree not Eve, and it looks like he isn’t taking his job seriously as Eve thinks touching the fruit will kill her and that’s not what Adam was told. Furthermore we know Eve was deceived by the snake, but not Adam (1 Timothy 2:14). So when put all together Adam watches his wife, who he’s supposed to be in charge of, get tricked by a snake. From what he’s told, eating the fruit will cause death but he just watches her eat it. Then when he sees it doesn’t cause death eats it too. This is why their eyes don’t open until Adam (the head) eats it too. Now I can’t say why exactly God didn’t warn them of the snake, but again we see this was an Adam problem more than anything because Adam willingly chose to do the wrong thing. I hope I was able to answer your question and if you have any others I’ll try my best to answer them, God bless
@@ashtonrene1524 why do you insist in not saying knowledge? God warned against gaining knowledge! The question is: why have knowledge around if it's dangerous? And why is ignorance preferable?
This idea continues through the Bible to the very end. A woman who is Serpent's helper becomes a foolish woman or a strange woman, while the woman who is God's intended help for man is known as a wise woman who helps man find his way back to the Tree of Life (Pro 3:1,15,18; Pro 31:10). It's probably not a coincidence that woman was tempted with wisdom ("...and a tree to be desired to make one wise."), yet desire for more wisdom which is not in accordance with God's word often turns a wise one into a fool (Eze 28:2; Rom 1:22).
Paul says that Adam wasn’t deceived but the woman was. Satan knew that he could get to Adam through his relationship with his wife who was his complementary helpmate. We shouldn’t read too much into the story.
I don’t see any contradiction between your explanation/push back to his explanation. In principle, you both said the same thing. It is just not usually frame it this way and in fact this is the first time I ever heard it explain this way.
kjv Genesis 3:3 (3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.) hi,do you even consider this verse , this is the key of the fall of eve as the serpent heard what eve just said, eve lack of information, because in the midst of the garden there are 2 tree and the worst part is eve added the word neither shall ye touch it,eve doesn't define it well: paralel verse kjv genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
@@Kathy-n7f the bible says that god create the serpent. For Adam and Eve the serpent in the Garden of Eden represented the voice of temptation but it needs to be noted that for the original writer, the Yahwist (or J) source, the serpent was not equated with Satan (the Devil). ...In Genesis three, the serpent, or snake, is an actual creature. It is not to be understood as an allegory or as a representation of some other type of creature. This was an actual being who was with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. You really haven't read your bible have you?
@@sidecarmisanthrope5927 Revelations 12:9 identifies the serpent/dragon as HaSatan. The same Greek word in Rev is used in the LXX in Gen 3. From whom else would come a "seed" to try to destroy the seed of the woman, the Messiah, but Satan? Who else is going to produce that evil seed but the devil himself? Context is everything in understanding Scripture. Ezekiel 28:13-19 gives us more details of what happened to this originally lovely creature.
First off, Satan was not a serpent physically. The garden was beautiful and everything in it. Eve was not threatened or afraid during the conversation. It was after , when god curse Satan to crawl on his belly. The ground was a symbol of dirt and sin. He would forever dwell in darkness and sin would be all over him. Satan twisted the conversation with half truth. He still does it today.
@@sntmdsa3628 I think he's right, Serpent IS a caractérisation. The beasts generaly speaking apply to Supernatural/spiritual beings. Isaih and Ezekiel have description of heavenly beings that are rather beastly than human. The Hebrew word has the meaning of shining one. Satan IS called dragon, the serpent of old in revelation 12. The chinese dragon depiction fit both description, fiery and serpent/reptile like, it makes one wonder..... Now a dragon is a reptile, but not a crawling serpent. Being made low among the beats/heavenly kind of creatures was Satan's judgement at that time, a humiliating dégradation from his original rank. Instead of being within the glory of TMH, he'll roam the low earth eating dust, humans.
Yes satan twists the truth and turns it into a lie. Consider how he twisted scripture to try and tempt Christ.And how he twists scripture to create the false doctrine that is Rapture. Many are already deceived by this satanic doctrine.
I listened to this earlier this morning and I couldn't stop thinking about it. The more I kept thinking about it, the more it just kept making more and more sense because of how many parallels it unravels. This makes so much sense. Thank you so much for this. 🙏
Ok. Bit mixed up. First off. Who put temptation in the garden? Why did all the angels apparently know all about it ( not evil for them). It wasn't evil to eat the fruit, it was the sin of disobedience. So, given the evidence ( most of which isn't literal) it would appear that we do not have enough evidence to judge either Eve or Adam or in fact God's motives. It is sufficient to know that it was a problem and Christ is the solution.
Just recently as I have been studying about the Tree of Knowledge I realized something that I had not realized before and that was the fact the God told Adam not to eat of that tree. God told him that before he created Eve, it doesnt mention That God told Eve the same thing so did Adam warn her about the tree ? Or could that be the reason Satan tempted Eve instead of Adam ?
did god lie when told them they would die no god does not lye from immortal to mortal they started dying there commandment why ate to have children if he remained immortal he choose to give that up what happen when are born you start to age and die christ is here end that
If you check your Bible you will find that God told Adam not to partake of the fruit and not Eve, as God has not made Eve at the time He told Adam, so Adam had to tell Eve. That makes it second hand to Eve, so it will not seem as important as it would be from God.
My first question is since Adam was present during Eve's encounter with the serpent, why did Adam not stop Eve from eating the fruit? Also when God confronts Adam and Eve, Eve blames the serpent, Adam blames God. 12 The man said, “The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree, and I ate.”
I don't think so Adam was with Eve all the time in the Eden, he would've been with animals, playing around with them, eating fruits and spending time with Christ and angels(not sure if he actually saw any angels in physical form, maybe or may not, bible didn't detail it. Not sure whether Christ told Adam abt the fall of Lucifr and 1/3 angels from heaven, how Satan rebelled and his pride. Since serpent didn't deceive Adam directly before creation of Eve...there can be possibilities that either serpent approached Adam abt the fruit but Adam was strictly following the word of God and denied eating the fruit or simply serpent was being jealous of seeing Christ and Adam having good time, and waiting for some time doing some plot against Adam. And here comes Eve the partner of Adam, thou they were husband and wife, but not technically they lived like that in the Eden. They would've been in slow and steady state to build a strong relationship together as a husband and wife. The serpent took this opportunity to put some tactics to deceive Adam through Eve and she falls for it without thinking the word of God that they shouldn't eat it ! The bible didn't mention Adam was watching the whole scene of convo between Eve and serpent, pretty sure if Adam was there watching this convo, he would've stopped it. The bible clearly says the convo was only between Eve and Serpent, once she ate the fruit...she gave the fruit to Adam - this case Adam would've been not near her, the tree or at different place from the scene. Once Adam ate, both their eyes were opened and started to cover their nakedness. They started to know what's good and bad, started to cover their sins of not accepting it but blaming.
Because god told Adam not to take the fruit from the tree of good and evil first..but not the woman Woman gave fruit to her husband afaraid that it is right to share the food….tempted by the serpent…. Satan is a liar!!!
Well either it was because of a 50/50 scenario falling by chance to one outcome, or the serpent likely saw Eve as easier to deceive. However, no one had lied before the fall, so the serpent wouldnt have known she was gullible to lies. Or maybe he had seen from empirical observation that she was more interested in eating fruit than was Adam. Or as someone else said, it was an early attack on the ordained hierarchy of the couple. In which case the serpent would have caused the first human sin to not only be disobeying God's direct instruction, but also to go against the order He had planned.
Eve said GOD hath said to not eat of it or touch it cause you shall surely die, Eve knew not to eat of it!!, but her desire to be like GOD got the better of her,and gave to her husband also who was with her, maybe she looked at the tree alot before satan tempted her he knew she was facinated with it, who knows but one thing is for sure GOD already knew man would disobey, and already had Christ ready for our salvation, they had to be tested how would it be if they ate from the tree of life and ended up living foever in the flesh than sinned after would not be good thats why GOD safegaurded the tree of life just trust GOD and his Son for salvation and dont worry about it
It was the tree of knowledge which allowed people to know right from wrong. How is Eve responsible if she did not know right from wrong before eating the fruit? By definition she didn't know it was wrong.
@@sidecarmisanthrope5927 Adam and Ever were created as intelligent adults and GOD explained to them I am certain about what would happen and why it would happen GOD did not let them go in blind to the situation I'm sure and GOD surely explained to them about Satan and his fall so I believe they were very well equipt in regards to the situation and consuquentes
@@Kathy-n7f : If you have children then try explaining good and evil to a one year old. Without the knowledge of good and evil they were like babies and would not have known not to do it. And out of the entire world why did god put the tree in their back yard. Of course according to the bible god is all knowing and would have known that they would eat from the tree. So, he set them up for failure and then punished them when they failed.
@@sidecarmisanthrope5927 and in another comment post you presume Kathy hasn't read the bible? God did not set them up for failure; He gave them the freedom to choose.
@@SeekingHisWill77 He supposedly created them without the knowledge of good and evil. They gained that knowledge by eating from the tree of knowledge. So prior to that they had no way of knowing that it was wrong. But you just make up whatever makes you feel better.
Eve was taken from the mid(tsela) of man, part of his core. Women are to be the core, stability while man is the conqueror. Go after that core and the rest will follow. And what else did satan temp Eve with?
Adam was lonely, so God created beautiful woman. I bet, Adam wasn't very interested about snake's opinion at the time. So Snake Snakerson focused on woman. Adam was there, Eve was not alone.
God had spoken directly to the man. The man had direct authority of that instruction. The woman had only received it as an indirect instruction, so she could more naturally consider it as a negotiable point direct with Adam without talking with God.
1 timothy 2:12-14: 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. read the bible. thks
Umm no sir. The Bible says that men are evil in the imaginations of their hearts from their youth. Women aren't deceiving men. Men are choosing evil all on their own.
Answering the narrators question. The woman was tempted because the second Creation story at the time it was written it was a patriarchal society. Plus it is a myth - not in the sense of a lie - but in the sense of the authors intent to reflect on the meaning of life while under captivity of the Babylonian’s. Talking snakes? God walking through the garden as a gardener. Man made from a rib from the woman. There are also two creation stories. Gen 1. Gen 2. Both vastly different. Different interpretations of the moments of creation.
According to Colossians 1:27, the mystery of the gospel is “Christ in you”. Now through the fulfillment of God’s promise to Eve (the Savior is born of a woman) Christ lives in His people by faith in Christ’s crucifixion and resurrection.
Who says Satan never tempted the man? He just may not have been successful with the man before the woman. (You can't say it didn't happen because the Bible doesn't replay everything that happened.)
I seen a woman sell her soul to the devil to win an argument over something she forgot she said. I also seen a woman do the same for money. I also seen a man sell his soul to the devil just to get married and have children. We are all human, and we are all sinners. Some just go further than others. True repentance is the answer. But how many sinners ask for it 😱😱😱.
I have always wondered why she was so far away from Adam that the serpent had an opportunity to talk to her alone? And why didnt Adam slap the fruit from her hand?
Because Adam was not fulfilling his responsibilities as the spiritual head of his union with Eve. He told god it wasn’t him, but the woman God gave him who did it first. That’s a sin nature right there
In modern urban language, what Adam did is called being a simp. Sympathetic to the woman's narrative. He should have done exactly as you said but, knowing this was going against God's command he went with Eve, since she was already committed.
I kinda just assumed that Satan caught her when she was alone and when she had some, she brought the rest to Adam. That's kinda the image I had in my head. Also, you know they weren't super glued together, right? They were able to walk off to different places in the garden from each other.
Adam followed Eve eating the fruit seeing she didn't die right then; BUT look what happened next! Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Good Lord, there's so much misinformation here, both in the video and the comments below it. God told Adam about the 2 trees in the middle of the garden, right away. We don't know how long Adam was alive before God created Eve. The only reason we know they existed at all, is because God gave this information to Moses who wrote it down in what we call the Book of Genesis. God said he brought all the creatures he had made to Adam, and whatever Adam called them, that was their name. We have no idea how long that process took. It could have been years. At some point, God made the decision to make a mate for Adam; someone of his own kind. We don't know when that happened in the life of Adam. God didn't tell us that. We don't know what the conversation was between God and Adam when he introduced Eve to him, or how he introduced her to him. God didn't tell us that either. We don't know how long they lived together before the incident with the forbidden tree. We DO know that Eve knew it was forbidden, because the serpent asked her if God had really forbid them to eat of it, and she said yes and repeated what God had said. God did tell us that much. The point is there's a lot we haven't been told, and it's good to take that into account and be honest about it when teaching others. I don't know why some people seem to have a hang-up about the serpent talking to them. It's no secret that animals have languages, and speak to one another. At that time, everything spoke the same language (it wasn't any language we have today) and they were able to communicate with one another. Ask anyone who owns a dog or cat, and they will tell you they DO communicate with you. There's a lot about the relationship Adam and Eve had together that we don't know, but we can clearly see by the time we get to the incident with the forbidden tree, things don't seem to be going too well between them. Adam is standing there with Eve when the conversation between her and the serpent is happening, and he doesn't say a word. Adam knows what God said would happen if they even touch the forbidden fruit, or eat of it, and he's standing there watching his wife considering doing something he knows would kill her, and he says and does nothing; just watches. When Eve decides to actually reach out for the fruit, Adam doesn't try to stop her, he just stands there watching, apparently willing to watch her die. After they both disobey, and have begun experiencing the consequences, when God asks Adam if he had eaten the fruit he was commanded not to, not only does Adam blame Eve, but he really blames God; "The woman YOU gave me, gave me some and I ate of it." There's absolutely no hint of Adam being protective of his wife, or caring if she's there or not. In fact, he's telling God it's her fault and she should be the one to die. That pretty much tells us Adam was done with her by that point. There's a long story there, but I'm not going to go into it. As for the serpent, you at least recognized it was used by satan, but you didn't consider why. Satan through the serpent was actively trying to get Eve to kill herself, basically a murder by suicide, but why? What grievance did he have with Eve? Satan is the first created son of God, Morning Star, whom we now know as lucifer. The sons of God are the angels, and they are all male; there aren't any female angels, contrary to what religions show. Morning Star was upset that God created Adam in the first place, and called him a son, elevating him to the same level of family that he and his brothers were. He began questioning God about this, but when God created Eve, that changed things dramatically because he gave her an ability he didn't give Morning Star or any of his brothers. Not only was Eve quite beautiful, but God gave her the ability to reproduce their own kind. This angered Morning Star greatly, and was the reason why he was able to convince a third of his brothers to join him in protest over this. The humans weren't impressive in any way; they were even made of dirt, so why was his father doing this? This is where the grievance came from, that was behind satan using the serpent to try and tempt Eve to kill herself. He didn't expect Adam would join her; that was just a bonus. It was Eve he wanted. He wanted them both dead, but especially her because she could reproduce. As clever as he thought he was in doing this, he made a serious error. He thought they would die immediately, which Adam also clearly thought, and when Eve didn't appear to be dying or even having a bad reaction, Adam joined her instead of trusting his father God. For while God did say they would die, he did not say _when_ or how, and that was the error in satan's scheme. Instead of putting an immediate end to the humans, they wound up reproducing and filling the earth, which was the exact opposite of what satan wanted or thought would happen. He's been obsessed with defiling us ever since, constantly accusing us before God to show how stupid we are, and what a mistake it was to create us. There's MUCH more to this story, but the essence of it is trust God and lean not on your own understanding. Obey what Jesus commanded us just before he left: "As I have loved you, love one another." That love is described in detail in 1st Corinthians Chapter 13, and that is in essence, the straight and narrow path.
Lucifer wasn’t Satan… he was the fallen Babylonian king in Isaiah. Also, Eve couldn’t reproduce prior to eating the fruit. It wasn’t until God burdened her with childbirth as punishment for eating the fruit did she have the capacity to reproduce. So wouldn’t Satan deceiving her into eating the fruit defeat his purpose of preventing reproduction?
Why do you assume Adam wasn't tempted? Perhaps he was tempted by the serpent, but resisted. So the serpent moved to the next target. Same end result, it just a bit more time.
I appreciate you showing the Hebrew for 'helper' along with examples. I am curious why you insert "Satan" and the "devil" into the story though, as neither moniker is found in Genesis.
@@honorablevessel Revelation mentions the serpent "in the garden"? Rev. 12:9 and 20:2 mention "the ancient serpent," NO mention of the Garden of Eden. There is no evidence for such a presumptions leap.
@@honorablevessel Haha, that's a pretty quick assessment. Also, nice way to avoid addressing the issue. It's okay if you choose to believe what you do, maybe you should ask why you believe it though.
I actually think God told the man not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It doesn't say that God told the woman. Additionally, some translations say when you eat vs. if you eat, showing God knew that he or they would eventually eat from the tree. Secondly, even though it doesn't say; there is an implication that Adam told Eve , by the way she responds to the serpent. The serpent says, " Did God tell You that you can't eat from any tree " creating confusion in her response, saying, we are not to eat or touch. This is the next ( speculation implying) that Adam told Eve not to eat or touch in a means to protect her. We use this with our children to protect them, causing more curiosity. Furthermore, the serpent implies God is lying, promising the ability to be like God. I find it interesting that God went down the line distributing justice. Finally, I am troubled by so little emphasis on the Tree of Life and why they were not encouraged to eat from that tree. I think God knows the existence of evil after Lucifer rebelled. I think there are so many stories within this story that shows the consequences of disobedience. Thanks for the opportunity to comment on this subject. Have a blessed day!
They were actively discouraged from eating from tbe tree of life that’s part of why tbe were banished. Perhaps God knowing how sinfull human being really did not wish to be offended for eternity by more sins so we got a shorter life span. I find it interesting that we still do actually get eternal life but must first pass thru physical death. SometimesI I think how blessed are the people who were never born- becouse the stakes are high and tbey have this way 0 opportunity to chose sin.
Very interesting. But my question is, why would God put the tree of knowledge in the Garden? Why did He not put it anywhere else? If He really wanted to to keep knowledge from Adam and Eve He would have done that.
MAYBE, an enemy came and planted the tree, just as in Yeshua's parable of the wheat and the tares. But then God saved Adam and Eve from an eternal fallen state by sending them out of the garden so they would not have access to the Tree of Life. Just a thought. Yeshua told truths when He gave us the parables. Everything in Scripture is connected. Shalom.
It was a gift. To show they are not robots or slaves but cocreators with God, with freewill to choose. It was an act of love and still is, complete with Salvation.
Eve was the primary target because she was not present when God gave Adam instructions and did not know the truth making her vulnerable and gullible to the serpent’s tricks. She was not cursed in any way, and was not subordinated in any way - by God. Man did this.
That’s false. Eve is explained to the serpent the instructions: “And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: [3] But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.”
LOL CLASSIC Jezebel cop out and twisting of Scripture. Eve QUOTED the command to the serpent, LOL so she OBVIOUSLY was aware of it. Now A LOT of people make a big deal out of her saying they couldn't even touch it, as if that has anything to do with why she fell, like Adam didn't give her the exact correct command or that she changed it. Either way, they BOTH knew not to eat of it, and the consequence would be death, but SHE wanted to be like God. Just like women today, SHE didn't want to be Adam's helper, she didn't even just want to be top of the pinnacle of creation, she wanted God's position.
Thanks for proving Paul's point, AGAIN as to why women aren't allowed to preach or exercise authority over men, because they are easily deceived. It's ridiculous how easy it is to debunk your entire premise.
@@cryptojihadi265 Paul’s point was that anyone who has not been taught/told truth is “Let learn!” Eve was like Paul. He didn’t know truth when he persecuted Christians. But he learned and was what? A voice for God. He’s saying the same applies to both women, that they can be saved if they know the truth about the Christ.
God tests, the devil temps. What satan was really saying to the first human pair was, ‘God is holding out on you.’ In other words, ‘God is withholding back from you something good, and He won’t share it with you.’ This as we know was an absolute lie, which is what the name devil means,-‘Liar!’ Also the name satan which means ‘accuser/adversary.’ Satan had to move quickly before Adam and Eve produced any perfect offspring. In succeeding he enslaved mankind into the bondage of sin and death. Then they start blaming each another, Eve blames the serpent for deceiving her, while Adam blames God for giving him the woman. None of this came as a surprise to a Omniscient, Omnipotent, and Omnipresent Almighty God. Who already had a ‘plan redemption’ in place, prior to the creation of the world. Ephesians 1:4
Because of the quantum entanglement/ negative+ positive. Satan (man) a minus + Eva (woman) plus, then, she + Adam. Poor Eva, playing the plus for 2 times and punished😣.
Women do not have seed. The seed of the woman referenced in genesis is generally accepted as referring to mankind or the children of God. Almost immediately, with the birth of Cain and Abel, we see Gods lineage of men and satans lineage of men. The sons of God lineage began with Adam to Seth. While Cain started the opposing line. I like the concept of the woman being created and designed to fulfill and deliver mankind. And it does make sense that Satan would attack that specifically. I have some theories about this as well that I’d like to share one day.
Yea I have so much questions like why did satan tempt eve & what kind of knowledge was there even to know that eve couldn’t have just asked god herself ? Makes me wonder if satan was just jealous or had some sort of idea that his angels were abandoned for god to cater to the future of mankind and wanted to sabotage it out of jealousy ? Maybe he wanted to show god that the future of mankind is a bad idea and doomed because it will create further sin and sacrificed his well being to oppose this idea by taking sin apon his hand and yielding it against god. I strongly believe in the “opposites attract theory” because it is somewhat true the good always well knows the bad and the bad always well knows the good
Why did god put a serpent in the garden of evil? Why did God Lie and say you will die if you eat from this tree? How are you to know when the Bible is being literal or figurative?
Where does it say God put the serpent there? God did not lie! The Hebrew says you will die, dying. There was an immediate death, a spiritual death. Adam and Eve no longer had the same kind of relationship with God. Their spirits were dead. And they were dying by having their perfect creation status removed from them. Now they would die for certain in the future. The Bible interprets itself. There is always an explanation of a figurative event. See Peters vision in Acts. See the woman in Revelation 12. The story of Joseph tells you who the characters are. The Bible connects EVERYTHING.
Thank you, true, with God Grace I had almost same revelation too, thank you I like the word ; “God plan will succeed even more better way”, God has the last word not Satan, even Satan try or seems like to win for a while, but ultimately Satan is a looser and our God and saviour is the winner always.
Thank you. I had never considered this reasoning and like to consider new ideas about the Bible. But I still think it most likely Satan tempted Eve because she had not heard the order directly from God and was therefore easier to deceive. As you pointed out, God first tells Adam not to eat the fruit and then He creates Eve. Nowhere does the Bible record God telling Eve not to eat the fruit. And there's something a little strange when Eve addresses the serpent. Genesis 2:16-17 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” Genesis 3: 2The woman answered the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden, 3but about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You must not eat of it or touch it, or you will die.’ ”… Notice when God talks to Adam He only says not to eat it. When Eve talks to the serpent, she says that God said not to eat it or touch it. So, the big question is why did she say God said not to touch it when we have no record of God telling Adam or anybody not to touch it? Did Eve make that up? Did God come back later and say that He needed to add something to his original command? Or did Adam add to God's word and tell her not to touch it? If it's the last one, then Adam may have helped the serpent deceive Eve since the serpent would only have to show her that it was okay to touch it and then she would question everything else Adam told her. If he told her not to touch it, it may have been done with love to prevent her from taking the first step toward eating it. But still, adding to the law backfired big time.
God told man about the tree of knowledge..now god let adam name everything god made..then god made woman..god did not tell woman the rules..adam told eve the rules..now serpent the devil knew he could not decieve adam cause adam knew god..cause the time adam name all god creation adam had time with god and seen what god can do..eve didnt see what god can do..the serpent knew that the woman didnt know god..thats how the serpent decieve the woman which whom decieve man..
Imagination is Yahuwa's tool to forge His most important creation, man, in His own image. He is developing the human mind for His definite purpose and objective. Imagination births emotion. Notice that imagination is in its nascent stage in Adam. Emotion is subdued. He cannot fathom the impact of his disobedience. But will be unmoved by Satan's temptation to be equal to God. The woman is imaginative, emotional. Be equal to God! The temptation is irresistible. So she is the pie to get picked. Once the seed is sown there is no stopping man from digging and furrowing to feed his blooming imagination and emotion.
It was the snake that deceived eve. The Satan isn’t mentioned anywhere in this story. It’s been assumed by many that the talking snake is satan but the satan is absent here. Minor detail but it does make a difference. 🤔
Notice the description of the dragon: Rev 12:9 the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world… Also see Ezekiel 28:11-23. King of Tyre description is of Satan who was said to be in the garden of Eden and not only failed to protect (Cherub that covers) , but sins there. Likely he is the “serpent of old” who tempted Eve.
@@Ken-hr2vt The author in Ezekiel speaks nothing of an ancient serpent, nothing of a dragon, nothing of The Adversary. This is an example of reading something into the text that’s absent. Here the author uses highly symbolic language but there is no allusion to the serpent. There IS an allusion to Eden and a cherub. Revelation does speak of a dragon and calls it the ancient serpent, but in Genesis, there is no mention of a dragon. It simply calls it the serpent, a very unassuming, common snake. Nothing special about this, except that the serpent can talk. Like the authors of Ezekiel and Revelation, the author of Genesis is using symbolic language. Again, in Genesis, there is no mention of the serpent being Satan. This is assuming and asserting something from tradition into this story that is not there. Anyway, I am very familiar with the story since I was 5. Studied different interpretations of this story, but I’m not convinced the author of Genesis has a giant dragon in mind here or a cherub fallen from heaven covered in jewels. But the tradition has interpreted this text like this, so it IS a common interpretation. I’ll give you that. 🙂
Really? Please point me to the verse in the bible that says Satan tempted Eve. I have read it multiple times and must have missed that part. The first mention of Satan in the bibles that I have read is in the book of Job.
When Eve heard that her seed would crush the serpent head when Eve had Cain she saw him as her redeemer and Eve spoiled Cain rotten. Cain murderered Abel because he was spoiled by Eve and jealous of any attention Abel got over him.
Adam, the son of God (Luk 3:38 NABO) Further, Adam was not deceived (1Ti 2:14 NABO) To strike at also means to admire. Snake also means Shining One or Morning Star. Jacob grasping at the heel also means to protect, guard, or watch over. The Christ descended into the Abyss and risies up on the Pale Green horse with all of Hades at his heel admiring and watching over him. In the beginning, darkness covered the Abyss. Christ rides a horse - of many colors, or aspects, or perspectives. White - The wine press I have trodden alone (Isa 63:3 NABO) Red - Do not think that I have come to bring peace (Mat 10:34 NABO) Black - I came into this world for judgment (Joh 9:39 NABO) Pale Green - Its rider was named Death - Christ rising up from the Abyss (Rm 10:7) - all of Hades is at his heel (Rev 6:8 NJB)
God knows everything, Past, Present and Future. God knew the future which means that he knew that Eva would be tempted. My Simple question is that Why God allowed this things to happen when he knew that he had to come back to earth and die to correct what Eva has done. Do you get my point? ?????
Because that was His will from the foundation of the earth (Ephesians 1:4). Now through faith in Christ’s crucifixion and resurrection, God lives in His people - this was His plan, that is, to live inside of His people (Colossians 1:27)
i think it was Adam who sinned, because he was the one who received the commandment. and i assume Eve heard it from him. "And the Lord God commanded the man"
VS 14 and 15 also suggests that because out of women will come the deliverer, a warning to not denigrate women which this fallen world has done beyond comprehension. But now as EZER, she is anything but weak. So thank you for reinforcing this. It's also worth noting that she entered into a theological discussion with Satan. Adam was with her in the garden. He not only failed to protect her, he simply......ate. We need to recognize that through our deliverer Jesus, all of creation is to be reconciled and restored. Both failed in their God ordained roles.
GOD spoke the Commandment to the Man..The Woman was The Helpmate..Satan went for the Weaker Vessel..Satan Knew even His Fallen Angels would FALL to Woman..The Spirit Realm is not conducted in the Same Human Logic..That's why Man's Intellect has no Chance with Satan..Man has to fight in Spiritual Wisdom..
God told them not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, luckily the snake (not satan) persuaded them to do so, which gave us the ability to tell right from wrong.
They had freewill, but it was inevitable for them to both fail in their given unique roles being human and innocent, opposed to the snake's skill and cunning. That they were innocent with no experience may not be an excuse, but I think that God's prime intention to place that tree there :) because He already knew, was to implement His plan to have Jesus Christ come as Saviour through the line of David. Through Jesus, God would be able to display to humans the full spectrum and more of His attributes of His nature and character in a greater measure of love grace, compassion, mercy, comfort, and all the host of different names and titles that Jesus has that describe Him. It's all to His Glory :) and that's where everything lines up and ends up as. His Glory. The Bible says God's ways and thoughts are higher than ours; we are called to walk by grace through faith. Thank you Jesus! and thank you so much for this video! God bless you! ꒰ঌ 🙏 ໒꒱
@stephenmason5682 think about this if you was Adam with eve. And God tells you both not to involved with others individual. The first thought will be eve and Adam will be your brother or sister. So basically you will easily fall trapped to take from a different tree especially if they told you God will not know and you will be wise as God. Well what do you think about this?
@stephenmason5682 there was no such thing as eating fruit. It's was having sex with falling angles which was the forbidden try .. meaning Satan use eve to plant his seed in the human race so basically he beat Adam to it and take her virginity and innocence so it's when she gets unholy she tempted Adam to have sex with her after she's fall from grace. So basically my point is today human kind would have relationship with strangers from another tree so basically eve was tempted to go with lucifer as he planned
Eve was the primary target because she was weaker, most certainly alone, and had not herself received the divine command. Through the shape and likeness of a serpent, Satan tempted Eve, and by her, tempted Adam as well. In order to secure success, Satan sends temptations by hands we do not suspect, and by those that have the most influence upon us.
False. She did receive the divine command because she explained it to the serpent before she ate the fruit: “And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: [3] But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.”
Adam means earth, that is matter, which means Adam stands for the body. Eve means life so she stands for the soul. The soul makes the choices but the body does what the soul decides. Eve ate the fruit but gave also to Adam and he , the bodt, ate.
@@ben-str Adam chose wrong. He gave into what the woman wanted rather than what God commanded. It's a story to show us how we need to sort our priorities. Adam prioritized Eve over God. So we fell because of it.
@@ben-str I believe in love for God first. The desires of worldly beings do not supersede the commands of God. That is the point of the story of Adam and Eve. It explains our fallen nature. God gives us a clear directive and consequence, we doubt it, and the consequence happens. Once we eat the apple, we have knowledge of its taste and want it. It is to say - desires cannot control us unless we first entertain them.
It makes perfect sense if satan knew in advance that the root of his condemt would come through the woman. In fact, demons knew that Jesus was the one who was going to punish them in the future better and before us: it can be read from the dialog between The Lord and demons before they came out from the gadarene. Thaks for sharing.
Really? Please point me to the verse in the bible that says Satan tempted Eve. I have read it multiple times and must have missed that part. The first mention of Satan in the bibles that I have read is in the book of Job. And Because they were both created innocent without the knowledge of right and wrong (good and evil). The tree of knowledge taught them right from wrong after the ate the fruit. You can't blame either of them if they didn't know right from wrong before eating from the tree.
@@rodrigomadariaga2051 None of that has anything to do with the fact that the bible never says that Satan was the Serpent. In fact it says the opposite. BIBLICAL ARCHAEOLOGY SOCIETY, says this: Introduced as “the most clever of all of the beasts of the field that YHWH God had made,” the serpent in the Garden of Eden is portrayed as just that: a serpent. Satan does not make an appearance in Genesis 2-3, for the simple reason that when the story was written, the concept of the devil had not yet been invented. Explaining the serpent in the Garden of Eden as Satan would have been as foreign a concept to the ancient authors of the text as referring to Ezekiel’s vision as a UFO. BTW "Satan" means "accuser" or "adversary" and nothing more. Several people in the bible are called Satan. And according to "overview bible" “Satan” means “adversary,” and it’s the name we use for the devil, the adversary of God and His people. It’s an old name that comes straight from ancient Hebrew, the original Old Testament language. But Satan isn’t the only one the Bible uses this word for. In fact, the Bible mentions several satans. Of course, you won’t always see the word “Satan” in English Bibles, because it’s translated “adversary” or something similar. If you were to look at the ancient scrolls, however, you’d see the word satan used to describe different people, not just the devil.
I like how you explain things.. the Trinity is complex just thought you might have a way of bringing it out to help the common man understand. Listen to your videos a lot lately. Cheers Peter .
Glad you're enjoying the videos. I appreciate your suggestion regarding the trinity. As you may have noticed, my focus is more on the text than on topics/concepts/doctrines. If I discover something in the text that could help people understand the trinity better, I will make a video on that. Always willing to answer questions you might have on that topic, though, so feel free to write me either here or at the email address in the about section of the channel.
It's perhaps not quite as complex as you might think. If you think of God as flesh and blood, then it's difficult to comprehend because of the limitations of the flesh, but God is not flesh and blood, God is spirit. God is pure energy. The best analogy is to think of three flames. Each is distinct, each gives off light. If you combine the three together, they become one flame. If you move them apart again, then they are 3 separate flames, yet each is equal to the others and looks like the others. That's the easiest way to visualize the Triune God. The Father is the will of God, he makes the decisions; the Son is the doer, the Word of God, he does the will of the Father; the Spirit is the power of God, he is the power by which the Son does the will of the Father. They are in perfect unity with each other and can function as one, or independently. Though they are three persons and personalities, we know them collectively as God.@@peteryoung4974
@@thetower8553 No, what? Do you need an explanation also? If I told you I wasn't deceived, would you think that I could make that claim without being tempted? Now remember this is Biblical, which is God-Breathed. So don't try to rationalize by saying I could lie about it. You should also know that until He cursed her, God never communicated with Eve. Everything was GOOD until she succumbed to Satan. And for more proof Adam's sin was listening to the voice of the woman (Eve) not Satan's. If Satan was trying to destroy God's replacement why wouldn't he begin by attacking the one (the man) who was created in God's image first?
Seems an odd action to place a tree in a garden which is off limits? Why do it? And what's wrong with knowledge? Why create man anyway, did the earth need one? The earth did ok until man emerged , why change it all? Look at the mess man has caused!
Adam's heart is Eve and God took his heart out, separated it so he could get to KNOW his own heart: It is the heart that is tempted and the heart (desire) that must SUBMIT to God in BOTH males and females: Males also have a heart but they PROJECT it onto the female because they don't FEEL it till it affects them from the outside: Females also PROJECT the mind and will outside of themselves by BLAME which they had to OVERCOME by using their MIND and WILL instead of subjecting it to males: A WHOLE person knows their heart and mind and will (Satan is lifted up and becomes ONE WILL with God) to overcome the crooked serpent God created so Adam Eve and the serpent (Adam's crooked will) can choose God instead of itself:
My inside goes on an other path. Why should a father put his children in danger, folowed by death? Wonderfully and fearfully made, he claimt himself. What kind of father whould do shuch a thing? Yes, he is the creator, and yes he is in full control but i find him not a fatherfigure at all.
It was simple. God had one restriction of - 'do not do (this)'. He told man & woman, if you disobeyed, you will die. God didn't do this. They did it w/Satan's influence. Damn, Satan was Satan back in the Garden!
Apparently reading comprehension is not your strong point. Adam was there right beside Eve. He saw and heard the entire conversation. It was Adam's attemp of casting blame away from himself that you are confusing with Eve tempting Adam. He had no one to blame but himself. We know that God personally told Adam about the forbidden fruit it is not clear how or if Eve was aware of the forbidden fruit. Men do believe that women are more gullible than men. Men are more likely to lie to women tha women lie to men.... Some superiority!
I think the simple reason Satan tempted eve was because Satan(could be a she) saw likeness in eve,Satan was second to God and wanted to be like God(equal),same as eve was second to Adam and so Satan advertised the same idea to her being equal to Adam and even equal to God and then she ate,it’s sort of the same idea women are being presented with today
Why one yes with Adam it's would be impossible because men with god have close bonds. And yes eve was a perfect opportunity because she can bring forth children
This because satan, hater of mankind, loathed the woman as she brings life, and knew that one day, many thousand years later, some misogynists would leave hateful comments about women on RU-vid for the original sin lol
Because Eve never saw God make anything, which gave her reason to doubt. So, Satan too advantage and succeeded. Adam decided not to lose her, so he followed suit.
Adam was around for many years even hundreds before eve arrived. Naming all animals isn't done in a lunch break. So Adam had a trusting relationship with my Father. Lucifere was told to bow to Adam. This enraged him. He would have been trying to kill Adam many times without success. Eve was new and Lucifer would have taken advantage of this. Adam in a panic Eve would die, learned the knowledge too. Most likely from Eve. He hoped his long term relationship with my Father would save them both.
The Bible says the animals, and humans were made on Day 6. Gen 1:27 thru the end of chapter 2. We didn't know however how long they were in the garden before Satan came. But you can't fit hundreds of years between 1:27 to 2:25.
@@sigalsmadar4547 Adam and Eve were created seperate from other humans. Its why cain was afraid to venture out on his own. The mark of cain was given to ptotect him. The bible is a book created to keep us stupid. It was not ment to exist. I call it satans little black book
Adam is of God's original creation and thus made perfect and could not fall and satan knew this . On the other hand Eve was a byproduct made after God's original creation was completed . Eve could be tempted but not Adam , not by satan and satan knew this. .
Interesting take, but misses the *_Larger Context_* of the entire Bible. Genesis has multiple layers, including the metaphor of Masculine and Feminine. God and Christ are "masculine" (e.g. "bridegroom") because they *_GIVE,_* like "male" electrical plugs give. And Eve and Humanity are "feminine" (e.g. brides of Christ) because they *_RECEIVE,_* like "female" electrical sockets receive. Here's one interpretation: Genesis 1-3 take place in Heaven, outside of space-time. Thus, Adam in the Garden is spirit and *_not_* flesh. The fact that God said Adam would "die on the day" he ate of the forbidden fruit, but he did not physically die, suggests that this is all at the level of spirit. The two stories -- the physical and the spiritual -- are overlapping. Genesis 4-5 ARE the "Tree of Life" (see *_The Bible's Hidden Wisdom_* for details). And the Tree of Knowledge of Good-Evil is a similar conceptual matrix (rather than a physical tree); the dichotomy in its name is the clue. For the entire physical universe is a realm consisting entirely of dichotomies -- like the one discovered by Newton: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Adam and Eve in the Garden were not separate, but one entity. We saw the male side which is God's hope of a *_Giver_* like Him, but Adam was created initially as a receiver. The physical universe (all of dichotomy, the pattern of which WAS the Tree of Knowledge) was what God needed in order to separate the receivers from the givers. Those who chose to give will cling to Christ -- the first graduate.
