Many Top Dj still use and will contiune to use Vinyl. And speaking Visually , it's a feast to the eye to see a Live Vinyl Dj . There is nothing more boring than seeing people on CDJ etc zzz.
#realtalkson don't say why that all DJs don't use vinyl anymore.... This "DJ" doesn't use vinyl due to.. him being cheap since vinyl records are too expensive for him,... him being a chump since vinyl records are too heavy for him oh,... him being a sucka by saying it's too hard for him... must I continue 😒💩
I remember carrying wooden wine crates fully packed with tons of records, damn, so heavy... That was back in the early-mid 80's, I even played cassette tapes sometimes. Crap, I'm old... I don't care. :D
30 records are not heavy and are enough for 2 hours gig… is heavier and boring bring 2 bags with controllers and other useless stuff to act like a wannabeadj
You don't need 5k. You need to listen to record at the shops. you need an ear for what is mixable. you collect over time so when you are starting out you grab the things you like then you start making a playlist and collect more then you pay attention to what crowds/ other people like and you collect those songs, then at this point you pay attention to what clubs like and you collect those records. But its not dump 5k in from the start its a build up over time.
I just started up with vinyl again and I am having a great time with it. Turns out that I missed going to music stores and browsing records a lot too! DJing felt a little limited at first after so many years with digital, but now I feel like I'm having a lot more fun somehow. Great video, will watch out for the slip mat. :D
Chris Liberator is a prime example of someone who DJs across the globe and solely uses vinyl. A true craftsman who loves his work and is willing to put the extra effort in so he can preform with vinyl. I used to DJ in the late 90s early 2000s and used vinyl (everyone did). Loved it. Still mix at home and don't want to move to digital alternatives. Vinyl is a true passion and if you know you know - bitten by the vinyl bug.
I hope you don’t mind me using those last two sentences as quotes to people who shame me for using vinyl saying it’s old tech...I get that they prefer the easy way of CDJs but it just doesn’t sound organic to me. Getting a seamless mix on vinyl is a damn right hard skill to learn but I still love it and won’t ever be switching so long as records are still made haha
@@curtisrivers1 Be my guest mate. Vinyl is a lifestyle! There's a whole ritual around vinyl. From the buying all the way to the listening. It's often people who have never used vinyl or had a physical record collection who are the quickest to dismiss it I find. Digital has so many advantages to vinyl. Too numerous to mention. Plus who doesn't miss lugging kilos of plastic around if you're gigging? That said. You just cannot beat the whole experience that surrounds mixing with vinyl. If that sounds "nerdy" or "hipster-ish", I don't care. Like I said. If you know, you know 😌 And for an update I have incorporated a DVS part to my setup since I bought a DJM 450. But if I can still find a track on vinyl, then I'll buy and use the vinyl over digital alternatives and that includes vinyl DVS. Cannot beat the true vinyl experience.
I saw some documentary once about the construction of a huge nightclub in Vegas. They built the DJ booth on a concrete foundation that went all the way through the floor down to the rock under the building. Just to avoid vibrations for the turn tables.
You are counting a lot of negative points for vinyl djing and I am agree with them. But there are also a lot of positive points for vinyl-djing. For example: passion for collecting Vinyls, holding your music in hand and can handle it, learning the basics of real djing and in addition love to see spinning vinyls. :-) PEACE!
Djing with records makes every dj different via thier collection bec of its rarity. You can do looping if you havr skills. Unlike pushing buttons very very easy.
Yes. I was DJing in late 80' from vinyl and it was lot of fun! The beat matching was new and the crowd was not too strict to have seamless music flow. You had already succes if you had good tracks with you. I used mainly SP (12 cm), so one song per side. To remove the record from the player, we used big cones made of aluminum in the center of the plate so lifting the cone took the record too. And yes, you had two big cases with records with you. Lot of fun, when drunked dancers shaked with the booth etc. But at that time was also used a microphone a lot and you reallly actively worked with the crowed. Really nice time 😀
it's true..but I've total different awareness when I push a button to load a track or I choose a vinyl from a crate, I pull out and I set it on the turntable..I know former is so much more practical, but loose any real gratification (IMHO)
I wish I was from a time where vinyl was popular, I feel like there would be a lot less more wannabe “Dj” and more talented people who are really about the music.
..about the MUSIC..Holy Words!!..what I watch on Tube is boring&boring boiler rooms, endless scratching and mixing by effects/loops/slicers/beat jump...where fuc*ing has gone MUSIC?!..when you ask to someone who's Afrika Bambaataa he's think it's a new shoes brand..
Jorge Magana you are correct mate. Any clown can mix on a digital set up which is why they spend so much effort prancing about behind the decks and constantly playing around with eq knobs. You don’t necessarily have to be skilled to be a dj anymore
That pretty much applies for anything now tbh. I'm trying to get into photography and it's great that cameras are available to the masses now with easy point/click digital cameras with auto settings and ai. But it also kind of diminishes appreciation for the art. I can't imagine how hard it would have been to be an old school photographer. Using film, having to develop the pictures, no digital editing and retouching, not knowing how the pictures you're taking are going to turn out until you actually develop the photos (no idea if the lighting and stuff is actually correct), no autofocus etc.
Enjoyed your video and I agree that 2nd part is a must. Although there are some downsides to owning vinyl, you should mention the good side to it. Here in the United states, there is a rise to owning vinyl. Yes, it's TRUE there alot of songs recently released but the same holds true for songs that are not available on digital unless you ripped them for vinyl. I started doing with vinyl back in the late 80s in New York were you delt with constant stolen records but there was something about the sound quality that I felt was far superior to digital in many ways. The advantage of vinyl was that you have to be technical. You learn to have more control and aware of the track being played. Djs like myself, knew a record inside out down to the lable and sleeve. Those who have the finances to start djing with vinyl now, should start off with vinyl controllers just to get the feel and will sure help develop skills. I love technology but I'm also glad that I learned by vinyl. It gave me the option to be creative with new technology while having the foundation of djing with vinyl. There are alot of advantages with vinyl as well it's more for a niche group these days.
so glad I didn't have to go through all of the nuances of vinyl dj'ing. Thanks for the great vid Jon. and Thanks for always giving a piece of your mind.
I love Vinyl and I am still adding albums to my collection. But playing it in a club? No way. Too precious, too heavy, too delicate, too expensive. The amount of trouble I had to go through back then, instead of plugging in my SX2 nowadays. As you Said Vinyl is sexy, that's why it belongs to bedroom deejaying. :D
@@Beast9894 because they believe analog sounds better and also they are used to beatmatching with it and they do it really fast and I have seen some use 3 turntables and I also saw Freddy k preform 13 hour set with only vinyl.
Vinyl DJing is like drink a rare wine bottle..btw I'm teetotal :)) At home is pure fun, touch tracks by hands, pull out from covers, drop the needle, prepare the beat spinning records..it's totally worth of.. I agree about practical issues (then I bought Rane set for).. DJing on vinyl is for special occasions only, vintage nights or for people that appreciate and want dance by a 'vinyl dj' (aside any issues could happen along night) It's few times we can djing live on vinyl..but when happen is AWESOME!! PS btw, needle touching slipmat is not gone ;)
I don't miss vinyl at all. I have been DJ vinyl records on the air and live since the early 70s. I don't miss the scratches, groove noise, bad pressings, warped records, etc. I got rid of my large vinyl collection a long time ago when CDs became available. I wish I had them now because they are worth a lot of money. But I would never go back to vinyl. Speaking of putting stickers on records, I remember a program director who used to put labels on songs that he didn't want played on the air.
bought my last pair of Ortophon nightclubs two years ago. Two months later a drop on the spinning platter, i'm down to my last one. Vinyl is dead for djing and my back is greatful
Funnily enough I've been using Reloop 7000 Mk2s for a while now and had that happen to me. Don't know why but the design of the deck seems to mean that the needle doesn't hit the dots. Don't ask me why. Maybe I've just been lucky but yeah, no damage after dropping back to far.
what are you going on about mate? There is A LOT of vinyl that is NOWHERE to be found on discog. My best friend annoyingly has 13 records at this very moment ive been searching EVERYWHERE to find, discog dont even have a listing lmao
It's all about pressing buttons these days. I feel sorry for the modern jock with their pre-programmed this and that. Where's the skill? Where's the fun? Where's the love?
Ohhh. I cringed and my heart stopped when you started talking about the slipmat and the needle. I remember many accidents like that... o.O But DJ'ing with vinyl is amazingly fun as it's SO tactile!
The mental gymnastics in the comments has me scratching my head. I started DJing in late 2003 when turntables dominated clubs.... back in those days used vinyl was ridiculously cheap so it was easy to build up a collection. We made do not because we wanted to but because there were so few alternatives that were as user friendly and digital stuff was way behind. These days I now use SC5000's connected to an older DJM-800 via the SPDIFs in the house and use a controller for gigs. If you want to rock out with 1200's and a mixer like it’s 1998 then knock yourselves out... but I don't understand why everyone else has to conform to your idea of DJing. Get out of the 90's!!! I don't miss nearly fucking up my spine lugging around 80-150 records I don't miss worrying about my records getting covered in ahem... nature's elements I don't miss having to ride the bass on the mixer to control vibration feedback. I don't miss having to worry about fuckwits scratching my records or trying to score five-finger discounts
I don't using digital decks anymore due to their disharmonic distortions(little-huge defects in physical dynamics progression). Only mechanical pitching-bending can do it properly and healthy.
In my opinion its all about the music not the tools you use. If a DJ plays great records with autosync and can keep a crowd dancing and have a good time all night you are a dj in my opinion. :)
Auf einer Platte sind zum Großteil 2 Tracks A und B Seite. Bei vielen anderen sind auch je 2 Tracks auf einer Seit=4 insgesamt. Stimmt also nicht bei 20 Vinylplatten sind nur 20 Tracks enthalten.
auf ner single sind manchmal b Seiten aber die songs sind in der Regel schlecht. meist zumindest bei hip hop clean und explizit version und acapella und Instrumental
I'm 55 years old and just converted back to vinyl. A real DJ uses real records and turntables. I only play 80's music so vinyl works for me. IT EXPENSIVE 💸
Many DJs do still use vinyl...the ones that enjoy the challenge + the fun. I tried switching to CDJs and thank god I didn’t sell my collection before hand. Piss easy and doesn’t sound organic..plus I have lots of stuff including dubplates which are not on cd or digital release
it is very hard to find certain copies. $100 or more for some. I need OG sleeves and that is also tough. Also it's not easy to find a list of what labels made copies or digital so I'm looking for records that probably don't exist.
10 bucks a record maybe 6--10 on avg isn't expensive. its a life style. It's what you put your focus into then when you have hundreds of records well... :D
Aside from the fact that travelling with a case of records is a real pain in the ass most dj's don't use vinyl because they don't have the skill level. Not everybody has skills with using their hands but pretty much anybody can click a mouse button. Most of the homes built today are done by people can cut some pieces of wood and join them with glue and screws and nails. Construction is pretty crude for the large part. Very few people these days can bring building to the artistical level of Japenese Joinery. The music industry also had to bring a commercially successful line of products to market and naturally they did it with digital files, software, and controllers. Selling records doesn't make anyone rich these days and probably never did. Most of the record shops closed with the proliferation of ipods and online file downloads. It balances itself out in the end, the underground stays underground and the consumers stay commercial. Everyone's interests are served so there shouldn't be this debate about vinyl vs digital.
I still use records. Since I don't see my vinyl "collection" as something just to be on a shelf collecting dust, and I could not care less if pops, noise will appear on them due to heavy use-- it's part of it-- yeah I still travel with two, heavy metal boxes of records. Airline issues? Never. It's seen as music-equipment and transported as such -- special load.
Dude , you can still pick up vinyl quite cheap ............................... Many folks will still posess turntables (1200's for me) , the one bugger is the weight on the boxes !! The travel side i would agree ;)
I wonder what back then is for you my back then was the late 90s and technique 1200 were $500 each new. so 1 grand on just turntables was an investment!
Vinyl is beautiful, but was not made for mixing. The damage you cause by Djing on Vinyl is criminal. lossless or red book quality files is the way forward. Best to keep your vinyl in prestige condition and watch the value escalate
What would really make vinyl DJing comeback would be a vinyl records crate with wheels on it so it’s much easier for the DJ to move it and vinyl record rentals for DJs. A DJ with vinyl and funktion one speakers is a match made in heaven.
Vinyl DJs look down on CDJ DJs who look down on controller DJs. What I see now is people who are new to buying vinyl who carry it by pinching their hand, they obviously dont understand that body heat and the pressure will create a warp.
Its harder sure, but even trying emulate it with an mp3 controller u become a better dj, forcing yourself without sync button, master tempo, hot cues and all of that, otherwise anyone can be a dj
I had my Sure Whitelabel cartriges , and stylus for like 5 years , stylus bended (bended like upside down twice but no drop in sound quality) never liked concord , very sensitive. Whitelabel very durable. Arm could drop to the side of spinning plate without touching the stylus.
Yes I used Vinyl long time ago...back in the 80's, still got them but as you mentioned this days you can't find records anymore or it's to expensive and havy ... ;-)
U can still find good vinyls, I got Michael Jackson off the wall and a rob base vinyl for only a dollar at the thrift store. U will surprise at what people throw away
At takes skill to keep ppl dancing.. then and now... I love vinyl but times and technology change... Today it's about music selection and knowing your crowd... But I must say after this pandemic is over..it's gonna a million new djs..
lol. It has ALWAYS been about music selection, knowing your crowd, and keeping them on the dance floor. That’s not a new thing. Just takes a lot more actual skill to do it with vinyl.
I remember when those CDJ1000's things came out and my friends were like that's cheating! Then the whole industry shifted to digital and my friends forgot what they said, total f'ing sell outs. It's so much easier now from what i've barely seen. I think it only would be a disappointment to get back into it and realize what people are actually not doing. If skill is no longer required, that is just sad. Knob jockies is pretty much what MOST DJ's are these days.
Come on man, you made all this up right? 100+ records for 1 hr set? 300+ records for an extended set? A record being damaged forever if the stylus sliped just once? You even failed to call the styluses and cartridges by the right name, also are you really saying that one good quality stylus would be wrecked after one month of use? Hahahaha come on, nobody who mixes with vinyl would buy that or would believe that you have mixed with vinyl countless times. Stop trash talking, you’ve never been a vinyl Dj
12 minutes of someone winging haha have you got anything good to say about vinyl by any chance?you sound like someone who was left behind because they never learnt to beat match properly until them infamous cdjs came out,hooray ,come on dude you must have at least one good thing you say, hit us up x
slightly off topic...but whats with all these bullshit 'vinyl only mix' youtube videos. I started djing in about 91 or 92......but back then we didnt really have a choice other than Vestax or Technics, so playing Vinyl aint special, its the norm. If you have to put 'vinyl only mix' on your videos that basically tells me you havent been doing this very long, thats it. Does Kerri Chandler contantly rabbit on about his 'Vinyl only mix'? Does Louis Vega? Richie Hawtin? Robert Hood? Carl Cox? Garnier? do they bollocks, not one of them! do you know why they dont brag about doing a 'vinyl only mix'?? because it isnt revolutionary, nor is it difficult, its like bragging that your car has wheels, and unless you're an actual turntablist like QBert, Craze, Kentaro, DJ Food or whatever its the selection that matters, and no amount of faux-crabbing is gonna make up for a piss poor tune selection. Just play the records however you get the best results, just dont brag that youre using vinyl....youre only showing that youre 25 years behind.