As an Australian myself, I find Cassie's treatment by our extremely biased media appalling. Andrew O'keefe and Waleed Aly are among the worst shit-stains that appear on our airways, and Cassie got stonewalled by both of them.
This treatment of men is absolutely disgusting. It does make me angry. Just yesterday I went out on a first & last date with a woman. She always makes issues about woman's rights, basically an average woman, so I treated her as equal. On the date I required her to split the bill, she said no, the man should pay. I told her either you split the bill or she pay for the whole lot. She then said no it's the man has got to pay. Now this woman earns more than me. I quickly drank my free water, go up out of the restaurant before the meal arrived at the table, left her to eat alone, for her to pay the bill & find her own way home. You can understand why men go MGTOW.
Puglous Yes her lobster she ordered was expensive, I was happy to let her pay the bill & walk off. As a man you get sick of going on dates & feeling your with a prostitute every single time on every date. Now my name is mud at work, but I just did what 98% of woman do to a man on a first date. I told her she was acting like an entitled princess. She had an opportunity to split the bill & she would not take it.
No. Its not savage. Its 2018. If gender doesn't matter... imagine this. A woman sits down with you to a date. Suddenly she pipes up and says 'by the way is it OK if we split the bill?' But then the man says no. So she gets angry and says 'OK, well I think you should pay the bill.' How does that sound? It sounds like shes being extra generous, then she falls back on what's normal instead. So why doesn't it sound like that if a man does the same thing?
You sir, need to pipe down and admit you hoped you end up banging her and weren't interested in anything meaningful. If you already knew she made "issues about feminism" yet still chose to go out with her, it has to do with the type of women you CHOOSE to be with and NOT with women in general.
prschuster it certainly was. You can see it in her interviews about making TRP. She went through a bit of an existential crisis. It's not an easy pill to swallow that you've been lied to your entire life
@@zoppie We're just now in a deadly competition for basic needs. But is an organized way of competition, instead of the chaotic one that would emerge in your post-apocalyptic scenario.
Paul is so right when it comes to speaking out. My own family view me as a woman hater when I speak about men’s issues and my own issues with the family court. My ex falsely accused me each time she violated a court order in order to overshadow the real issue. But I’m told she would need to do that a few more times before the courts would lose their patience. I have family tell me to learn to live with how things are because the anger will just make things worse. But why should I not be angered by the injustice? As Paul said, if it were happening to a woman they would receive support and encouraged to express their anger. But as a man it’s wrong to do this. The double standards are cruel.
Wear a body camera. When she lies in court you can then produce a transcript of the conversation, from the recording. If they doubt your veracity you can play the video. Best to save it for when it really counts.
A personal story: Years ago I worked in a female-dominated environment. This was before all the metoo and woke stuff. At that workplace was a female, you know the type, big earrings, short hair, far left politically, feminist obviously. Believe it or not, I at that time thought I identified as a feminist, I was young and dumb, I know. This woman hit on me at a social event with the colleagues. It was obvious and blatant, for all to see. I gently reject her, but she has had a few drinks and will not stop. I end up leaving the place. After this episode, she went out of her way to make all kinds of trouble for me at the workplace. She just could not handle being rejected. And her "sisters" enforced and supported the obvious abusive witch-hunting. I ended up quitting the job, the whole system that was supposed to secure my rights as an employee was rigged with "sisters". 3 or 4 years later I was working in a male-dominated environment. The tone was somewhat rough but also brotherly and warm. The manager told us we were having someone who had been out of the workforce for a couple of years as an intern. Guess who it was? With few or no males left, she had turned her toxic ways towards her female colleagues and ended up getting fired. She was a shadow of her former self and the look on her face when the manager presented me as her team leader was very satisfying, I must admit I´m not above that. She said very little and when she did it was often out of place feminist drivel or just clueless miss-placed things. The guys ended up bullying her and making fun of her on a daily basis. When I called them out on it, they tried turning it back on me, but I took the bull by its horns and the boys put their act together. Soon it was the same quality working environment. On her last day, she approached me and thanked me, asked why I helped her out after all that happened at the old workplace. I told her I had my standards and anyone with lower standards was never going to define mine. Much better, way more satisfying, than petty revenge.
I 100% support men's rights!!! If we are going to have EQUALITY in this world, people need to start recognizing that equality means EQUAL - not greater than, not less than.
Equal outcome or equal opportunity. There is a difference. Jordan Peterson makes this argument. I think understanding the implications of this thought process is paramount.
Stephanie...we will NEVER have equality, for the simple fact we are all DIFFERENT.....and by definition of that word NOT EQUAL and we never will be. Stop confusing "equal opportunity" with "equal outcomes". Equality is just code for COMMUNISM, which is precisely what feminism is, its communism applied to sociology instead of economics
We need to talk more about gynocentrism to really spread awareness about men’s issues. The lack of compassion for men is not solely a cultural thing, it’s partly biological.
"We're supposed to have compassion for our fellow man, just as much as for our fellow woman." So well said. Men need to learn this too, because most men value women far more than they do men. It is supposed to be an even playing field.
This is probably the most hated man in the men's rights movement. Not surprising given he is speaking 100% truths here and those who hate truth will always call truth hate.
We also consider them the enemy because they always try to impede anything MRA's try to do in regards to men's issues. Anything that is pro-male and trying to voice men's issues is consider abhorrent to them. Cassie officially seen this herself first hand while making this movie and then trying to get the movie shown in theaters around the globe. Feminists were standing in her way at every turn from beginning to end with her movie.
Feminism has always been against male issues. To be fair, they're against women's issues too - if you're the wrong kind of woman. While feminists are able to lobby groups in government and change laws to the detriment of men, MRA's will continue to speak out against them.
Even first wave feminism was bad. As pulsaran said, it was a movement that made themselves the priority - no one else. As long as you were rich, white women of a certain mindset you were acceptable. For everyone else you would get a white feather, lose your job, shamed for your ideas or vilified for working alongside men. And all this from ivory tower mentality.
davey1602 I agree that the white feather campaign was wrong definitely but besides that, i understand why the first wave existed In that time, there was no women's property act , which meant in the case of divorce, anything she inherted or earned went to straight to her husband, not to mention custody of all her children, which was wrong But now women don't feminism anymore
pyrostrike uk That is only bad if you believe that men were the oppressing class. In truth men had no say in matters in general. They had to work the same long hours they do now, providing for a family. They would get custody of children as they earned the majority of the bread, and don't forget debts that women worked up were payable by their husbands. With America's Civil Rights Movement women would have got the vote anyway. They weren't perceived as an underclass, rather as a class that would be protected by their men - therefore it wasn't unreasonable to think that those men would vote in her favour too. Look up suffragists if you think I'm lying. In the case of inheritance, all she need do is leave a will and whoever she names becomes the beneficiary - just like today. I myself will never marry and carry the same burden. If I do not leave all my worldly goods to someone, my government will take a big bite out of it before it is divided up and fought over.
So glad that I have found you! I am just waking up from the politically correct coma I have been in and shocked to be seeing everything with new open eyes. Its been an amazing ride and I am so stoked to see others on the way!!! I am loving that there is a movement of free thinkers rising up from the ashes in this insane time. I wish you all the best and look forward to see where all this takes you!! ✌🙏❤
And many men are doing exactly that. They recently took a write down of billions. The parent company Proctor & Gamble, also suffered, but only briefly.
A wonderful interview. One of the reasons that the politicians will not help men is that men do not punish political parties that do nothing for them. Political parties are scared of the feminist movement and tend to pander to their every whim.
Mike I obviously didn’t 👍🏻 your comment. I was just trying to get your attention so I can ask you something. Just out of curiosity, what is this “ help” that you aren’t getting? Honestly, ...if there were a politician that would give you anything that you wanted regarding this subject... what would that be? What is the “ help “ that that you’re needing?
i don't usually comment on things i see on RU-vid, but in this case i felt to compelled to. when i look at the people of MRA especially paul elam, i see calm, rational, well articulated people with facts as their rhetoric. all putting forward a very clear and well backed up argument , this clip for me was extremely enlightening, some things i really didn't know, so my thanks for broadening my outlook and knowledge, they all have acted in an composed adult manner, both thoughtful and reflective, but still passionate with feeling, coming across as a genuine people. . which is the complete juxtaposition of the modern wave of feminism, loud aggressive immature angry and completely immune to any reasoning, "if your opinion doesn't match mine then its irrelevant " this is why i hadn't taken much notice of them. and hadn't taken them at all seriously, (till the red pill) is this really how real feminist want to be seen? really ?? obnoxious and overbearing, screaming shouting and stamping feet till i get what they want ? there is a word for that, it's called immature. the amount of abuse, both racial and sexist and downright offensive that i've seen, disgusts me. offends me. Misandry rules supreme. what a joke. if you kept the content of what they say and just change the gender , and say those self same slurs and diatribe at a woman, you'd be in jail. I applaud the efforts of the MRA's. and the candor in which they conduct themselves. my hats off to you gentlemen. thanks for having the balls (pun intended) to share in this controversial (for some) film, and a whopping thankyou to Cassie for making this film, and letting rational voices be heard. thanks to all participated to make this possible.
Experienced all this first hand as a male. Could never put my finger on the issue. But this guy absolutely has taken the words I couldn't find. Right out of my gut! Keep it going!
11:08 so true. Any time I just want to talk about this stuff people get super angry. It’s fine if you think I’m wrong just say so, I never understood the anger.
it's them being "weak". Literally man, like, fucking LITERALLY, they ARE "Emotionally & Mentally Weak", so that anger is from them getting CRUSHED under the weight of what you're trying to talk about, and the deeeeeeeeeeep realization that, well.....they ain't shit lol
Because they are collectivists who feel that men are bad people because some of us rape and beat women. So to them it's like hearing a felon complain he doesn't get enough freedom in prison.
As the father of a daughter who graduated magna cum laude from a small eastern PA college, I saw first had that an OVERWHELMING majority of high honors recognition went to women. Literally out of maybe 60 kids that received high honors, probably 10 per cent or less were men. Very concerning for the future of our country.
I can’t speak to my wife about this, a very intelligent lady, the programming is so deeply imbedded into our culture, it’s incredible when you think about it…
I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall with some of these interviews. Some of the stuff that didn't even make it into the documentary is so powerful.
*Equality under the law!!! Equality within the Culture!!* We MUST quit giving women Legal & Institutional advantages. 1) REPEAL: Tender Years doctrine. 2) REPEAL: the Duluth Model. 3) REPEAL: all, ALL, women based preferential practices: FREE Grants & Loans for women; unfair Gov contracts; unfair School entrance; unfair Hiring practices; unfairly limiting FREE SPEECH; unfairly NOT holding women accountable for FALSE accusations. 4) REPEAL no fault divorce coupled to spousal & child support. Until women stand up and demand REAL change (like that I listed here) the MAN STRIKE will continue. **WOMEN: Simply join the Honey Badgers and start kicking ass for REAL change otherwise your "support" doesnt mean shit!!!**
He described mens issues so perfectly here. We are not seen as human beings. That it me hard because it's so true, we're seen as tools to make the world go round and make it easier for women.
The Red Pill Movie is an amazing documentary and much respect and thanks for producing it. Would love to see a sequel as there are so many additional issues that can be covered in depth. Here in Canada we even have a magazine that is charging men a higher price to buy it than women to make up for a non existent "wage gap".
Another big problem is single-parent (more often, fatherless) homes. 1 out of 3 children (about 15 million children) don't live with their father. A number of those never even get to see or know their father! The blame is often shifted to the father, in that he is a deadbeat, etc... and in some cases it's true. But in many of the cases, it's NOT true. Births out of wedlock and no-fault divorce, among other things, have been ruining society. Statistically, 70% of single-parent children will end up dropping out of high school! Also, about 1 in 5 American boys/young men will be diagnosed with ADHD. Many of them are given drugs to treat this. Many of those drugs can have bad side effects too, including increased violence, suicidal thoughts, mood issues, and weight issues. This is all because they are "too active" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Seriously, with all the obese people these days, we should be GLAD they are active!!!) In addition, it is statistically evident that children who grow up in single parent homes are much more likely to have mental health problems, become delinquent, become a drug addict, or even become a complete criminal. Another problem is the government's use of financial incentive to reach certain quotas, in the name of "equality". What this actually does is, it doesn't fix the problem - it only makes the problem *_*appear*_* to be fixed, and in doing so, it actually _creates_ inequality!!! (In Europe, the government is rather blatant in that it actually calls this "positive discrimination" !!!)
Benjamin Esposti 70%? Where, Ethiopia? If you want to argue, you must to argue truth, not propaganda. The US only has about a 7% drop-out rate according to the most recent data available (www.childtrends.org/indicators/high-school-dropout-rates/). Children in single-parent households account for about 29% of all students (www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.prb.org/pdf10/single-motherfamilies.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwizg5av2sbZAhVh6IMKHXgQAgsQFjAEegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0d4uJC7KtO0Dt02it9i6Fi). In order for 70% of those children to drop out, or 70% of 29%, the drop-out rate in the US would need to be 20%. That's almost three times higher than what we know is the truth. Even if we assume that the entirety of drop-outs come from the 29.1% of students in single-parent families, that still means that, at most, you'd get 24% of kids in single-parent families dropping out. However, we know this isn't true, and the most strongly correlated co-variant to graduation rate is household income (www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/indicator/2013/05/poverty-dropouts.aspx) which may or may not be a result of family structure. I'm not saying there isn't a correlation or that it's not an issue, but I am saying we must never succumb to intellectual laziness, and we must always speak truth to bull shit.
I mentor adolescent boys. Cassie has contributed to my work in a hugely beneficial way. While making the red pill has been a career challenge, I urge you to keep going. You are making a significant contribution. If we get this right for men, it will make it better for women. When we see ourselves as fully human and not a disposable object, we will in that dignity treat everyone else better - men women and children.
Yeah, we have many goals. Even when people hear about said goals we get "oh, but" right after we explain ourselves, like it's a competition. What's worse is that WE get told we are the ones competing. This really has nothing to do with the video, but this is basically what Elam said later in the video on how men's issues are treated. We bring up a legitimate issue and it's ignored or we are called a hate group. Talking about the high male suicide rate is considered "hate". Yet when feminists want to talk about "sexist air conditioning" or "being catcalled", it's treated as a legitimate issue. Feminists get money from charity organization or masquarade as charity organizations themselves and make a boring as heck project to show how women are truly oppressed. That 10 hour walking video in New York video is proof of that. They only got maybe 5 minutes of unwanted attention out of 10 hours? Yeah, that is really evidence of rampant harassment. And before anyone wants to try and say "Well there's rape to consider", rape is a non-gendered issue. The fact that no one talks about rape against men is because when a rape against a man/boy happens, he gets called "lucky". If that's not rape apology, then I don't know what is.
@simpleton Apollo rape actually occurs to males a lot more given the one sided male to female ratio of prisons. They whine about reproductive rights when we have none
I think the men's rights movements focus on criticising and fighting feminism is one of the big things that makes it difficult for many to get behind. The truth is though, feminism is a very large part of what's standing in the way of men and boys reaching equality in many of the areas that we're disadvantaged. I mean they can't even have meet ups to simply talk about issues that men and boys are facing in todays society without groups of angry feminists protesting and trying to shut it down.
They really aren't 'focus[ed] on [. . .] fighting feminism', though; the problem is, the external societal assumption that if you take up a pro-masculine stance, you must be con-feminine. I agree that feminism stands in the way, but you can't beat an ideology. The best you can do is stick to the issue at hand; hence 'men's rights movement' and not 'meninism'.
It takes a lot of reading and listening to realise feminism is not what the unicorn and glitter decorated brochure says it is, and for most people you are inherently committing a crime if you listen to a word against it. Most people are preprogrammed for fairness and would also be against feminism if they were educated enough. But deep thinking is not what most people are about. They follow the people they admire and bleat out the slogans from the barn wall.
The problem is that Feminism cannot be ignored. They are a gynocentric ideology that claims a monopoly on ALL gender politics whether male or female. Meaning that for any form of gender politics outside of feminism MUST address Feminism because it is essentially the Ideology that stands in direct opposition. As well many of the problems the MRA are confronted with are a direct result of Feminism and is kept in place by Feminism. So if, for example, you want to fix family court... You will have to topple the feminist push to keep is as broken as possible... which means addressing their arguments.
I saw her give a speech. She said when she started making the film her intent was to expose these people for what they were- "and in hindsight, I achieved that." She fully admits she took the red pill when making this film.
Great edition to add to your collection Cassie. Your channel is severely under-subbed. I will link to this video every time I can when someone tells me Paul Elam is a misogynist. Thanks again and keep up the great work.
Thank you for uploading. Seeing this movie lifted the shroud from my thinking. It has been a daily relief to not suffer the immense cognitive dissonance that feminism causes via public institutions and the culture at large.
One example of the insane Legal abuses is how Men who have their Kids taken away along with their Income (sometimes more Money than they make) many times if they cannot afford to pay the instant Judgements against them , they have their Professional License / Credentials are taken away , even their Drivers License is taken away . So how do they pay ?
The fact this video has so few views and Cassie so few subscribers, despite the topic and content being very valuable and socially essential, tells you all you need to know about who's really in charge online (and offline) and what their interests are.
Cassie, thank you for being open minded enough to listen. And in listening, you came to your own conclusions and not that of a group that refuses to listen. BTW, you look so cute the way you’re sitting there. 🙂
Cassie looks excellent here, so balanced, respectful and genuinely interested. We so called MRA's are not really that bad once you get to know us. We just want a fair shake in life, that is all.Thank you for taking us on your journey of discovery. Not often you can say that about feminists in todays day and age.
Trying to understand the Mens Rights Movement is like "trying to understand a snowdrift, one snowflake at a time"... probably not the best choice of phrase 😏
@@captainprice8644 I have a lot of compassion for Men's issues. I was quoting what was said and commenting on that. Do you have compassion for Women's issues?
It seems that Cassie's expression shows this interview must have taken place close to the beginning of the project. Something about her expression gives me the thought that she just wasn't taking the whole message in at this point. I see a lot of doubt coming through and it looks like a definite lack of compassion at this point. Great work, it's clear that was a long way back for you, Cassie, but even then you didn't turn the interview into a debate. Very professional work, whether you were actually listening to his replies or not.
Heard the phrase "women and children first"? Of course you have. Ever heard The phrase "Men and children first"? Of course not. That shows you the attitudinal difference in society between how much empathy we have between women and men. Women always get first priority.
I had a brother who was attacked by a gal in his junior high school. The girl said she got hit even though he didn't and he only nudged her away so she'd stop scratching him up. They listened to the girl of course. 🙄 One teacher of mine was able to get custody of his daughter because they had evidence of the wife's gambling addiction. Without this, it would have been a lot harder to keep his daughter who loves him. I agree, men should be able to express themselves like women (ie be able to cry or vent/ talk out their frustrations).
Breast cancer is somewhere around the 12th highest killer of humans. Yet is almost always at the top of the list for money raised in charity. Thats a bad ratio.
Your love life is the barometer predicting the future. If it goes too far down the sooner you become homeless and unemployed before divorce court the faster you will be able to recover from divorce rape.
Yup that's sum the help feminism has for men, feelings and patriarchy. Nothing that take from their effort or budgets to support men but the other way around.
Im not sure if many of you are like me but let me know Im not alone. Ive been in the fight for womens rights in the past. With the view of "why not equality"? Right? Then i find that the line gets crossed in some places and we are told to just accept it because, well, we're men. Well I shot my own foot. But now Im mad as hell and Im not taking it anymore. I decided to treat both male and female with the same grumpy ass attitude Ive grown to love. Wake me up when women understand equality.
fckqutube be grumpy when you deal with societies injustice. When you interact with individuals treat them with equality, patience and humour. You can't force people to understand your point of view, but you can invite them
