Why do Studios Hate Blender? 

I think your perspective is slightly skewed, like you said, one app for modeling, one for animation, etc. This is a production pipeline, and Blender is becoming a part of that. Just look at Across the spider-verse, Blender became part of the pipeline because of Grease Pencil. While Blender isn't being used in every pipeline, at every major VFX studio, it is being widely used across the world to make CGI, VFX, and animations for TV shows and commercials. Add to this, that it's a tool that anyone with a computer that meets the specs, a tool to learn. Blender is in a great place, and will only become a bigger threat to the market, as time goes on.

@@akuunreach I agree entirely. In retrospect I should have emphasized that more

@@filmstop7828 All good, you covered a good amount of why Blender isn't standard in pipelines.

One other major thing of note is after 2.8 Blender is being stuffed with half-baked and half-thought through features. Yes, now it's feature-rich, but it will take years if not decades to make these features work as intended or even design them properly. Most of those look cool on paper, but when they start working not as 'advertised', an artist has nowhere to go unless studio also rewrites parts of Blender for itself. Also, some of these features are inconsistent between Blender versions, being changed drastically or even cut. Obviously, when you plan out your production, this is a big issue.

@@ShadeAKAhayate Blender isn't alone here. Many software have this problem, add to that, Blender is one of the more stable programs. Usually only crashing if you do something silly, like subdivide one to many times.

This. Exactly this. Although I did know of a studio (Tangent Animation) that switched almost completely over to Blender with some Houdini and produced excellent work. They were a relatively small studio and introduced Blender bit by bit over time. Ironically they went bankrupt after the higher-ups forced them to switch to Maya after they started on a major production already using their Blender pipeline.

@@Xero_Wolf Oh, my... what a step back ...

​@Xero_Wolf it was not much "higher ups wanted to use Maya". Higher ups only care about production output, deadlines and budget. AFAIK Maya was introduced per supervisor AND artists working at tangent, and they wanted to glue it all back at Blender using USD. Did not work. Production stalled, scene translation was not seamless, and Blender showed it was not capable to be the centralized hub they thought it could using USD. Maybe not entirely Blender's fault, but it certainly did not meet the specs needed to tie in everything.

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Enjoy using 3DS Max forever, then.

I'm happy blender is not industry standard, in that case blender would be forced to become a mature boring corporate software with many restrains in its feature development. The best part of blender is that since is not tied to any standard it have the freedom to be fun and going some steps ahead with its own ideas. Blender needs to exist and have its place not only because is free, but because it have a diferent role for a different target (mainly amateurish but majoritary), it fills a gap that has been becoming more noticeable since industry software became more prohibitive, closed and started to adopt the suscription model crap. If you are working on a studio none of that is a problem, but what about the other 90% of people who are students of hobbyst, they should be alienated until becoming worthy of touching a proper serious 3D software only aimed for high end industry productions? People forget that industry is only a portion of the 3D world, software don't need to be "validated" by the high budget hollywood industry to be worth of being used, there are many other industries where blender have its place, not all studios work with huge pipelines with thousands of people. We have jobs in printable figures industry, advertising, visualization, indie content creation, videogames, etc...

Blender flexibility reminds me of another industry standard: Softimage, which was quite extended, especially in Japan. The industry uses what most people say they use, regardless of the actual functionality. Blender quality is industry grade, just, not the most published by "profesionals". Something I'm most grateful because keeps Blender away from their pressure.

If blender were industry standard amateurs wouldn't use it for their hobbies. Professional features are overwhelming for basic users and not fun to learn

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Blender is bad at texturing, so I texture in Substance Painter, the people that say "use blender for everything" are kids, new to 3D or don´t value their time.

@@TheOrijinalPajeet Depends what you're doing. For professional quality on some projects, sure, but industry standard levels of quality takes time. If you're a hobbyist, kitbashing, creating free content for fun, you'd save a lot more time by just using something like adobe stock and importing materials, megascans for some spare parts, and using some noise nodes and whatever else to make some quick masks, rather than spend all that extra time dealing with substance painter. "use blender for everything" is a completely honest phrase to say as someone experienced with 3D that values their time enough to not want to burn out from doing the first sketch > blockout model, sketch over > simple 3D modeling, sketch over again and final 3D model process that you will be using in a studio, which takes much more time than hobbyist creation. In fact, you save so much time by cutting those corners that you won't have to cut in a studio, that it sounds more like the kid is you.

@@translatedbird I make characters that are rigged and imported into unreal, with their props, haircards, the works. Use blender for everything is not a correct phase, use whatever is most efficient for you is the correct thing to do. substance is a 5 click bake machine thats good at texturing, blender is none of these things. You´re that kid, noob.

@@TheOrijinalPajeet "You´re that kid, noob." summarizes your type perfectly. I wouldn't need to add anything else under normal circumstances, except the correction that the "5 clicks" is a gross simplification. With a blender addon you'd actually be baking close to the 5 clicks advertised, the big deal is that you won't have to bother exporting and importing to and from substance, and you won't need to have multiple apps open at once (just blender) That's besides the point anyway, if you're trying to save on time, you wouldn't be using substance or blender to make the materials, you'd be importing materials and make masks to get the look you want. Guess what program you rigged in, that's right. You probably animated it in it too. That's called a time saver. What's the phrase? Git. Gud.

@@translatedbird "With a blender addon" What if the addon breaks and the dev stops giving a sheeet?. What if the addon stops working in newer versions?. What if the support ends? What then? As a COMPANY you have to ask these questions. I know addons exist, man, I prefer Substance for ease of use, simple. Works out of the box. >you'd be importing materials I´m texturing IN SUBSTANCE. All the brushes I need. I´m not importing jack besides color IDs from the sculpt. Git good indeed.

I don't think he meant "slow" compared to today's software - obviously all were slow compared to today - but slow compared to the other alternatives. Which is very often the case with graphical acceleration for smaller software companies, especially starting out. And this is a much bigger reason the some might think. Things taking just 10-20% longer to do due to graphical performance is a HUGE waste of time and money. Not to mention a source of frustration for users.

Wow, that was a really harsh EULA. I am a passionated animator, who's working on his first episode of a very elaborate animated channel - and even for me, it would not to be considered just throwing my project files out there. I'd happily made ads for Blender, showing all my work with the program, but giving these files to other people to mess around with them and potetionally abuse my many handmade assets, I wouldn't.

I remember using blender back in 2002. It was also an inscrutable mess that nobody would consider using for anything serious. Very different from blender today.

Nothing to do with not being able to open their assets. This is ridiculous. With the money they save from licenses they could hire someone to convert the assets. Blender is horrible for production of any important assets in a high end professional pipeline. Maya and 3dsmax are professional tools designed specifically for professional pipelines and Blender is not, and everything else is nonsense.

@@keelfly Conversion may not be perfect. It is a risk studio won't take. Business continuation is priority. Asset, other than data/model/drawing, also include pipeline, plug-in, filters, custom tools, etc.

@@keelfly "3dsmax are professional tools designed specifically"- it used to be a poors man Softimage, used mostly to model furniture and packaging. It wasn't better, it was cheaper. Then, with time, it became more professional and now is "industry standard". With blender might happen the same - more features and (more importantly) growing user base might elevate it to the "industry standard" role. 5yrs ago there wasn't even discussion, now people are making animations on it.

@@keelfly sad but true

@@artephank Not true. 3dsmax was used for full pipelinestuff in game development around 96-2006 I would say that for gamedev it was THE goto software around 2000. Softimage lost traction and the new version came to late and was never truly adopted (sadly) - softimage was big in Japan during the whole period tho. Maya started really to rise in game dev from around 2000. So no it was not used to do furniture, that max became more of an arcviz software is something that happened after mid 2000s

Fifteen years ago, I worked for a large international private institute focused on video and media education. They made massive amounts of money from students, but it seemed to me that there wasn’t much profit to be made from the software side. However, I must assume they had some kind of deal with Apple, as they suddenly started giving out iBooks to every new student. They claimed these laptops were "free" for students-right after raising tuition by $1,200, which was exactly the cost of those laptops. In other words, they effectively forced every new student to buy an entry-level Mac. This was some type of big deal between an educational institute and a tech company. But I know something else: they definitely never had any “get paid to use our software” deals, beyond the standard price discounts available to educational institutions. Amusingly, they were also involved in a conflict with Adobe because Adobe refused to sell them educational licenses. I will not talk about the reasons, but Adobe really had good reasons not to do Business with that institute. As a result, the institute had to pay full price (!) for every Creative Suite (CS) version. This situation led them to encourage us, the teachers, to switch to “free” software to save on licensing costs. It was embarrassing since we, as teachers, wanted to equip students with the skills needed to secure well-paying jobs, which meant using industry-standard software, not saving the institute a few dollars or euros by switching to free alternatives. Nowadays, though, I feel differently about that last point. “Free” software has become a very good alternative, and I personally use Blender.

I agree but this is a general problem on RU-vid. If you don't click-bait the title you don't get any views. It sucks for viewers but creators have no choice. There is a great video by Veritasium "Clickbait is Unreasonably Effective" that explains the problem.

@@MemeticOnline yeah for sure it’s like this. And yeah sadly it works. Same as fake game ads.

I’d say the opposite, I hear more about blender than any other software so it does have more exposure than anything else

What are you talking about ?? Blender have the biggest buzz in the 3d industry right now. Its super overrated and overhyped

@@saynapolygons Overhyped, maybe, but why would you say it's overrated? An insanely powerful software, whose competitors are only available for serious money, yet which is able to compete with them in every visual means, how is that overrated? I think it absolutely deserves any bit of fame it receives.

The borderline ret*rded, non-industry standard UI/UX asks for your sanity.

they do have sponsors such as Nvidia, AMD, EPIC, Adobe, Intel, Meta... there's a whole page about it on the official website.

Yes for sure. still 15 years is a looong time. Especially now when things are happening in the fields of generative AI content. Also a player that many seems to miss is actually Unreal engine. It is step by step getting more and more content creating tools in it. Just check the change made the last 2 years. I would not surprise that for gameplay / game needs unreal will be the content generation package of choice. When it comes to more advances simulations then it will be Houdini, unless Blender steps up there but it has looong way to go there. When I look at Blender today I actually see its biggest strenght as a free sculpting software. Maybe its there it can find itself.

I'm ngl 3ds Max is probably the worst and most unnecessary software. It's just an ali express version of Maya

Max is supposed to be really good for architecture modeling, not just general modeling like Maya!

@RodneyKimbangu but architecture modeling is the same as normal modeling. Just much less detail and simple shapes...

@@RodneyKimbangu In my architecture school everyone hates 3ds max. it supposed to be the best for modelling, but in reality both blender, rhino, c4d is equivalent or better, except 3ds max is ugly and inconvenient. And crashes way more than all the other softwares listed.

@@ajtatosmano2 They hate 3dsmax, because they cant use it. You need to invest so many years for learning and its one of the harderst 3D softwares.

You're right! Blender is way behind right now at the highest level of production, but in 10-20 years, or maybe even sooner, we very well could see it begin to become industry standard.

In fact, in my school blender was the ONLY 3D software they taught us. It has become super useful software, even if its not quite 100% there yet.

you absolute dame right....😅😅

Tbh, using only Blender in academic will stunt your growth and limit you, Blender Hotkey and workflow is a bit different, some of blender of doing stuff is very incompatible with other software, to the point that you basically learn everything from scratch again if you someday decided to use the real deal program like Maya or Houdini in the future. i know, the Industry Standard Hotkey is a thing in Blender, but, if you learn blender as your first 3d editor, you probably won't change your hotkey scheme, and if you use Industry Standard hotkey as a newbie, you'll get alienated from thousands of Tutorial out there. in term of Heavy Duty, Blender is not there yet, Maya, Zbrush and Houdini is extremely Heavy Duty, you can throw super big stuff at it, and it will handle it with grace, and the Export import support is very good, it can handle a lot of file format. Blender is good for modeling, rendering, and tweaking stuff here and there, but other than that, if you want to do Production level of Rigging, VFX, Animation, Procedural, Sculpting, you have no choice but to reach the big boy stuff. majority of Blender user never use any other software outside of blender, they don't know what they don't know. i use blender daily for like a Notepad equivalent of 3d Editor. and i pretty much a 3d Program Agnostic, use the right tool for the right job

It is for almost a decade. Leftist teachers promote it and schools like it because they do not have to deal with licensing even free one. There are thousands who are taught with Blender. Their work is not up to par with people who are seeing their profession more seriously and professionally. More seriously dedicated and more methodical. Blender is a tool that not only it is preferred by amateurs, but also produces amateurs. And yes there are of course great artists working with Blender but they are the exception, and not the rule.

Using Blender in USD pipeline is pain as it will disrupt your scene graph and didn't support USD features like referencing and variations

There is a survey on the blender website until October 22, about the direction of development and new functions. The questions also include a point about full support of USD

I'm sorry, what?! I understand preference. But "not intuitive"? What version of blender have you used?

You should try Modo

3dsmax is the best tool for polygons,

"addons" lmao, that's the problem. You have to buy addons to make stuff work out of the box.

@@FutureRulesat least it would still way cheaper than subscribe to Maya or similar here while those blender add-on only need to buy one time (check the video that compare the cost between blender with needed add-on and other software, then try to scale it for each computer your company need to use, and you will see how damn costly it is both short and long term. Of course that doesn’t mean you need to thrown out all the other tool, just one or two with Maya or similar so they at least can open or convert old projects -customer file there)

@@FutureRules you don’t need them, they just make your life easier, the expansion option with an open source program like Blender is endless

by deep pixel rendering you mean the multiple different render passes? Blender has that and all the .exr stuff so, is that what you mean?

@@carlomdlf No, deep data is data used in compositing (with Nuke) to simplify complex layering. A normal render might have a zDepth pass which tells you the depth of that one pixel, but it can only describe the depth of the whole pixel (it's aliased, when the RGB is anti aliased). You can't use AA on a zDepth, because it'll give you incorrect depth on anti aliased edges. Deep images however, store multiple depth samples per pixel, containing information about each samples opacity, colour and depth. The deep engine in Nuke will automatically layer these samples when you merge multiple deep images together. Nuke can create deep data for comp stuff like projections and 2d elements (smoke, fire for example) on 3d cards, and then seamlessly layer them with deep renders from CG software. It really simplifies complex layering in compositing. It originated at Weta and is now extensively used in VFX. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_image_compositing

So it’s Autodesk’s fault no one can get work?

@@brenolad its kids fault , they are working for free for portfolio. And people from poor countries because they do work for 3 dollars

no correlation

@@saynapolygons sorry for needing to put food on my table lol

​@@saynapolygonssorry for living in a poor country ig

Agree with you on the Dev stuff. they do fix bugs pretty fast. Texture paint is a prime example of ignoring user feedback for a long time. The right click select was conceptually a good idea but in the end i'm glad they finally let it die. Lets hope they don't eliminate the 3d cursor to placate the masses. Its keyboard shortcut heavy workflow and infinitely configurable UI are things i miss in every other program. Oh and pie menus!

ahh! and "industry standard" is a stupid term! industry standard for what?

@@villain42 Our standard, pleb.

@@Dr.W.Krueger your standard for what? you spoke but didn't say anything apart from scolding me, moron. :D it's a stupid and childish "answer" from someone hwo is probably smart (if your name is not a lie)

That doesn't apply in this context though

And you can never own Maya, no matter how much you pay Autodesk.

I'm primarily a blender user. I've used it both professionally and privately and it's awesome; it can do everything I need it to. But the shear size of the blender community will skew any public pole in its favor. But I do appreciate your feedback!

@@filmstop7828 i dont think he has ever studied the, Berkeley gender bias case of 1973. Aka the Simpson's Paradox.

Maybe because there are more blender users than any other software?? Blender is great but in modeling it’s not much better than Maya imo I just prefer the workflow but that’s a biased opinion not an objective fact

Yes only issue is who is making those polls and who is answering them. Its a good modeler for sure it just have a bit performance problems with larger polysets

@LEDs , Blender even for its strongest suit being 3D modeling isn’t the best program at doing it while still very good for most people’s general use. I’ve heard that a lot of companies will port things from Maya into stuff like z-brush if they want super hyper realistic detailing and cloth work for games like overwatch 2 and even the new street fighter games as some general examples which is a real strong suit of that program before moving it back into Maya. The other potential reason why pro companies might not want to use it may depend on file type as well, if the file type doesn’t match or causes issues when switching between programs and makes the pipeline more complicated than the software wouldn’t be a good candidate in their eyes. The other issue is when it comes to training employees who already know a specific software already. Most companies don’t want to spend millions of dollars trying to train their workers on a new program and find it easier to simply have new students learn the programs they already use before they enter the industry. While there are many parts of the pipeline where you can get away with maybe using a different than conventional program, it largely depends on the production but also whether the software can still integrate back into the full pipeline and the onus is on the individual to know the software and troubleshoot it on their own in their free time. I don’t think there’s anything really wrong with what Filmstop is saying here and don’t think it’s really productive to shoot the messenger so to speak, take it up with the companies themselves if you have an issue. All he’s doing is nicely explaining the situation as it stands so that the rest of us can understand it, not that he somehow thinks blender is the worst program in the world (he’s literally stated it himself that he loves to work in the program despite the drawbacks for pros in the industry)

Thank you! I really appreciate that

Its a master of just pure modeling. Its leagues better than maya and comparable to max only faster. Also UVing in blender is much better than in either max or maya

lol 3dcoat (ukraine) is unregulated; mari is for movies who use like 16 udims not for game assets, marmoset toolbag better for game assets than mari

@@ttmayor You know nothing about "Uving" if you think Blender is better than Max or Maya. As a matter of fact UVing inBlender is worse than it is in any other 3D program. Saying Blender is comparable to Max is another sign of your incompetence. It may be faster but it isn't comparable - Leagues better than Maya? Another lie - you probably have never modeleld in Maya. Stop it with your bullshit, it makes you look like an ignorant fanboy who is suffering from delusions.

However, blender is a lot more stable than Maya. That alone makes me use blender over maya

@@teneesh3376having made the switch, blender crashed more on me than Maya, the main reason i switched is because modeling and rigging is easier to learn and do in blender but for animation I still believe Maya is better

It's only "free" if you don't value your time

Never say never 🙂

Don’t judge a book by its cover

Interesting, thanks for adding to the discussion