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Why Do We Still Use Solitary Confinement?

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@KayAndSkittles Год назад

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@antihinduismisbased Год назад

Can you share the bibliography used for this video?

@r4masami Год назад

Something that seems unaddressed is what kinds of systems should we use instead of prisons? We can talk about how terrible prisons are but what should the system look like?

@ButWhyMe... Год назад

@@r4masami Prisons are the result of capitalism needing a quick way to control crime (illegitimate and legitimate), despite the fact that capitalism generates all of it. All of it. The system that would replace prisons would be nonexistent in a non-crime world, that one being socialism or better, communism, where the prime driving force of political and economic power would be need instead of profit. With it, people who need food will be given food so they will not need to steal, people who need emotional or social or sexual outlets will be given such. All crimes today are generated under capitalism as they are apparent solutions to deal with the problems it creates.

@Ashathefree8 Год назад

Ive never even thought about solitary being used to enforce forced labor, but it makes complete sense.

@iamjustkiwi Год назад

For sure...if you trap someone in a box long enough they will be grateful to do LITERALLY ANYTHING else. I actually experienced this in rehab where a lot of the guys would do volunteer work ringing a bell for salvation army for hours in the cold just to be able to get out of the halfway house for a little bit. It's so cruel, we are a social species and I really hope solitary becomes considered a form of torture legally soon.

@faithchartin6770 Год назад

I’ve heard complaints that we pay to feed/bed/care for prisoners in general. A prison like Norway looks better and more stable than most of our own homes/neighborhoods. Some citizens would kill (pun intended) to have a home that looks like that without soul crushing employment. If our imprisoned members of society received such basic human rights (healthcare and housing!) the rest of us might wonder why we aren’t getting those things, too. “So I have to work 50 hours a week at 12/hour to get housing and all they’d have to do is commit a crime”

@KayAndSkittles Год назад

Absolutely. The exact same language around prison has existed for centuries. Many workers in 18th century slums were furious that prisoners weren't being actively starved. The poor conditions of the working class contribute to what we deem as acceptable conditions for prisoners!

@faithchartin6770 Год назад

@@KayAndSkittles excellent, concise explanation with good historical example…this is why I squeal when you post. Thanks for all the quality content!

@FirestormMk3 Год назад

@@KayAndSkittles It's right up there with language we see about minimum wage. Rather than seeing both positions as underpaid, some scream that you want to pay a fast food worker as much as a paramedic, in the end arguing to keep everyone's wages lower. It actually reminds me though of a survey in New York around public housing where over 80% of people said they would oppose a program that reduced their rent by half if it meant people living below the poverty line would get apartments rent free. So many Americans would rather their own lives be worse as long as they know someone else is suffering more, or at least would reject public benefits if they believe someone of "lower status" would benefit from them more than them.

@solfell_ Год назад

on the surface, "it doesn't have to be this way" is a very simple sentence, but it's actually quite powerful. once someone internalizes that message, it completely shifts how they see the world, its systems, and its injustices. excellent video, as always. thank you for the work you do.

@elpito9326 Год назад

Especially when you realise that the most prevalent argument of those that support the status quo is "it may not be perfect, but it has to be this way because the alternatives are all worse". They say something so big without any sort of proof but... It convinces people.

@FrozEnbyWolf150 Год назад

I was the victim of a violent crime where the people responsible got away with it. I'm for defunding the police and prison abolition, not in spite of what happened to me, but because of it. The police who showed up made everything worse, deciding to put me in handcuffs for having the gall to act in self-defense against my assailant. I've had some very strong feelings about what should have been done to the people responsible, but I could not look at the situation objectively, therefore those feelings should not dictate public policy. The prison industrial complex, being punitive, only teaches people how to become better criminals. The last thing I need is for people like the ones who assaulted me to become better at what they did.

@daniellee2343 Год назад

It was the left wing justice system that put you in handcuffs. It's the left wing justice system that treats criminals as victims and treats victims as criminals.

@FirestormMk3 Год назад

I was robbed at gunpoint while working retail. The court reached out to me through the vitctims' rights system (which also, to this day, sends me a letter any time his sentence is extended, he petitions for parole, or even is transferred to another facility) asking me to write a letter and appear to testify during the sentencing phase. The instructions for the letter asked me to detail the ways in which the individual had harmed my life, asking me to pay special attention to difficulty in going to work or ongoing mental health issues, emotional suffering, or expenses I occurred seeing a therapist over the incident. When I saw how many decades they wanted to give that young man who in the end didn't hurt anyone, and moreover during the robbery specifically did not ask for the wallets, phones, or other possessions of the customers and employees, only the store's money, I did write a letter. I pointed out it was a frightening experience and I had a rough night, but mentioned those things I considered mitigating circumstances and asked for leniency on his behalf. The rescinded the invitation to speak at the sentencing hearing.

@__-vb3ht Год назад

I have a bunch of conservative friends with whomm I have talked at length about justice and ounishment. They have got no qualms about outright admitting that in their view the justice system should inflict suffering. Sometimes they will say it deters people. But More oftne they will just say that it is just. That it is a law of life that wrongdoers must suffer. that two wrongs do make a right. That torture as a consequence of misdeads is as much a natural law as gravity. Framing their advocacy of torture not as an active stance but as a unchangable neutral nessecity. It's insane. The glibness with which they condemn others, in a way that isn't passionately hateful but entirely cold and disinterested. Instead of pretending that they have a justification for cruelty insisting that it is wrong to even demand a justification. Flat out saying that cruelty is the end in itself. Absolutely sick

@DenisBourveau Год назад

Bro sounds like a Marvel superhero here's your wholesome medal fellow Redditor

@game_boyd1644 Год назад

These people are still your friends?

@__-vb3ht Год назад

@@game_boyd1644 Less and less with each passing day. Some are willing to listen and reconsider. Some I don't have hope for but I still try

@autoteleology Год назад

@@DenisBourveau Nobody who is cool likes people who act like you

@FirestormMk3 Год назад

I get it. I remember I think it was 15 or 20 years ago learning about a survey that the majority of Americans didn't think prisons should do anything to stop sexual assaults in male facilities. Like, we so normalized both the cruelty and prison r-word jokes "don't drop the soap" that an outright majority of Americans believe that being assaulted is part of the prison experience and that it should remain that way.

@VoonNBuddies Год назад

This is a really excellent encapsulation of the issues with the prison system. I appreciate that you took the time to examine the ideological reasons why otherwise normal people might be in favor of such a monstrous system and the material reasons the rich are in favor of the same system. Also, as an aside, this was the first time I didn't immediately skip through the ad section of a RU-vid video. I love the little bits of your own humor that made their way into that ad read!

@artisan2906 Год назад

oh, that statistic on "non-violent crimes counted as violent" really hit me. also, the problem is ...... capitalism. again. how wonderful! DEFUND THE PRISON SYSTEMS!

@WobblesandBean Год назад

Won't happen. As long as republicans exist, they will always support for-profit prison systems.

@ButWhyMe... Год назад

The only way to defund it is by cutting off the source - capitalism, and the only way to do that is by cutting it off the source - the youth. One of the biggest ways capitalism "keeps workers working" is not only keeping workers in blissful ignorance and retaining falsities, not only by "or else" mentalities such as harsh sentences or the threat of starving, but by keeping the next in line to suffer in ignorance and selfishness - By grooming the youth.

@iamjustkiwi Год назад

@@ButWhyMe...Work culture keeps people exhausted and oftentimes if you have a flex schedule it's hard to make plans for your time off because it's so variable. Exhausted people spend a lot of their time just resting up for their next shift instead of things like fighting for better treatment or working collectively to improve local conditions. Intentional or not the outcome is the same, a docile workforce afraid to speak out for fear of losing the next paycheck they are desperately dependent on.

@dustind4694 Год назад

"You know all those problems we're having with alienation?" "Yeah?" "Why don't we threaten people with making it SO MUCH WORSE."

@dustind4694 Год назад

Also, as an American, the rehabilitative model in Norway is like seeing sunlight under a door you thought would never open. Maybe we can't do it here by dint of the limits of our political will and imagination? but nobody can say it can't be done.

@dustind4694 Год назад

Which doesn't get us where we're going, but it does highlight that the TINA crowd is, was, and always will be wrong.

@SolidLink64 Год назад

i self admitted to a menial institution in Oklahoma due to suicide concerns, the confinement and unpredictable cellmates drove me crazy and waking up to someone causing a fight in the middle of the night unsettled me. prisons should not be worse than that at bare minimum. the whole system of "rehabilitation" in the us needs work.

@leon3589 Год назад

Another excellent video. Surely all due to Skittles' input but you did well, too.

@WobblesandBean Год назад

Lol Skittles is MVP

@kenster8270 Год назад

About those survey respondents who say they want event harsher treatment: Maybe the underlying reason behind their glee, Schadenfreude, sadism, cruelty is that deep down they feel a sense of relief that this harsh treatment is not afflicting themselves personally, or is not targeting the groups that they belong to in the social/racial hierarchy of America.

@danielhadad4911 Год назад

I'd say it goes beyond that: media, specially news outlets, constantly dehumanize convicts and cultivate a concept of what and who the "middle class" should fear. This fear is what leads people to want to violently dispose of anyone who does not adhere do their racial, religious, sexual, and social standards. Kay has a video he talks about something similar. It's the one on Attack the Block.

@Salsmachev Год назад

I'd expect they just also don't have a realistic sense of what that entails. Like, if your only experience of prison is what you see on TV, it doesn't seem that bad, and I can imagine someone saying "this should be worse". They don't have any realistic sense of what it means to be locked in a cage, dehumanised, fed mouldy slop, and forced to do hard labour for ten years without any respite (and hell, I don't either, thank god).

@danielhadad4911 Год назад

@@Salsmachev Good point. It also reminds of me the way cops are depicted as "heroic selfless guardians of justice, fighting against the most brutal scum that does evil for its own sake", or something like that. The sad part of awakening is realizing that it's not just the news channel that's been feeding you propaganda, but cinema, music, literature, and even schools are just passive instruments in the hands of the burgeoise.

@tehwilsonat0r Год назад

Framing this as a dichotomy between "it's what our rulers want, against our will" and "it's what we actually want" is a very immaterial framing. The people with the ability to most propagate ideology reflecting their will is the ruling class, the same ideology that we are always steeped in. There is no poll you can take that can split that away to measure what we "truly" want. The much better framing is, "what need does a society dominated by a ruling class have for prisons? Would a society dominated by its majority have that same need?" I would argue that it does not, and that we therefore have a pretty clear objective to pursue if we want this (and many other things) to be less inhumane.

@KayAndSkittles Год назад

I think my video makes this exact argument. The reason I pull so much polling is to demonstrate how the ideologues of the bourgeoisie can and do effectively manipulate us away from our own interests on certain wedge issues. A phenomenon that I think we combat with political education. You might not think that's the right method but I don't think we disagree on what the problem is at all.

@maykechi7752 Год назад

Glad to see you back.

@Laezar1 Год назад

Won't have time to watch the video today but I'll hazard a guess to the title : Because the prison system is inhumane and centered on a retributive notion of justice that treats human rights as conditional?

@KayAndSkittles Год назад

Damn... you're good.

@orterves Год назад

"The beatings will continue until rehabilitation improves"

@tjbarke6086 Год назад

Bringing that AGAB snark in, I like it.

@Old_Harry7 Год назад

In Italy we a thing called 41bis, it's a procedure introduced in the 90s as a temporary tool, stress on "temporary", to combat the Mafia. 41bis is basically solitary confinement with only 1 hour of free roaming in which the convict cannot interact with his family members, receive guests, read books, watch TV or listen to music, you are basically locked in a solitary cell watched 100% of the time through cameras even while going to the bathroom. The problem with 41bis is that it is written in a shady manner therefore everyone accused of terrorist related crimes can be senteced to it, no matter the gravity. The 41bis has strucked the public discourse recently cause an anarchist, Alfredo Cospito, has gone into an hunger strike precisely to sensibilise the Italian public on the 41bis. Cospito was responsible of a "gambizzazione" (he shot an industrialist on the leg) and a terrorist attack (he planted a bomb on a police training academia but made no victims). Obviously the guy is no saint but the 41bis is judged as excessive especially since he wasn't responsable of any murder. Our prison system persecutes petty crime like drug possession and prostitution and makes impossible for the convict to get a job afterwards therefore indirectly encouraging the inmates to stick to criminal activities once they are out, keep in mind that most of Italian convicts are young people who for a simple mistake have their life irreparably ruined even after they have in theory "paid their debt to the justice system". Our prisons are also overcrowded and poorly maintained and the right argues the best remedy to this would be to go full privatisation US style. The Radicali movement tries to sensibilise the public on all this affairs since the 70s but to little results and what's more infuriating is that when the public actually moves to say "legalise drugs" such as marijuana through a referendum our constitutional court stops the entire process behind a few legal hiccups like it happened a few years back.

@tayzers69 Год назад

omg new kay and skittles

@diddles3383 Год назад

I've watched so many video essay and political channels in my pastime and you are by far my favourite, please give Skittles some pets for me ❤

@user-xsn5ozskwg Год назад

I wish I can remember the exact quote, but I remember someone talking about eh punishment for crime with the phrase "what you call justice is just an excuse for catharsis," or something along those lines. It really is wild how many people seem to believe any form of torture should be how we handle crime of any degree.

@RedDawnAviation Год назад

I agree with most of your response there are the oddities of which until you’re in that situation you can never truly understand but imagine someone taking one of your loved ones and torturing them to death. How would you want them handled? As an example, the guy in Sacramento who captured in tortured people. That kind of in humanity does not deserve compassion. He made a choice, and now he should have to deal with the repercussions of that choice. Personally, I think in that case the death penalty is the solution, and if I were allowed, he should be put to death the same way he put his victims to death. Try not to confuse us with being compassionate for people caught a bad situation and just need help for my other response.

@user-xsn5ozskwg Год назад

@@RedDawnAviation You still want catharsis, not justice. And using extreme and incredibly rare cases like that to justify giving the state the means and reason to torture people is how we end up with people spending their lives imprisoned despite rehabilitation and actually making up for their crimes being something they could do.

@RedDawnAviation Год назад

@@user-xsn5ozskwg our definitions of justice differ somewhat m, but that’s okay it what makes us a free country. i insist I do not support torture be it solitary confinement or beating. That said, the violent criminals need to “pay” for what they did to other humans beings, here I am referring to rape, torture murder etc. The truely evil and sick ones. I will say that if someone kills my loved one, they will pay for that poor decision one way or another PERIOD and I frankly don’t give a sh!t if they “are comfortable!!”

@user-xsn5ozskwg Год назад

@@RedDawnAviation "but that’s okay it what makes us a free country" In the face of the notion that our criminal justice system needs to remain ineffective and abusive so you can get petty revenge on imagined criminals you have no idea how ironic that is to say.

@RedDawnAviation Год назад

@@user-xsn5ozskwg well having traveled the world and seen CJS it in many countries, ours is the best out there and not perfect at that. No we don't have hotel rooms like Norway, (my home country) It is set up that 100 guilty go free so that 1 innocent doesn't die, no it not perfect but then we are the only ones with a 4th and 5th amendment. Revenge, petty, such ignorant words from someone who has not experienced evil up close. It is not revenge, it is removal. If you have a loved one that is tortured to death... you may change your tune, but then maybe not. you forget that most "bad Guys" are repeat offenders and I think there is a way to change that (robberies, drugs, burglaries) but not murder and rape, its punishment time cause they crossed the line. As I said its a free country and I just agree to disagree, nuff said

@caramelldansen2204 Год назад

This didn't show up in my subscriptions feed. I randomly checked your channel to share a link to one of your videos and happened to find this.

@marksalmoneussorcerersupreme Год назад

People from France were writing books about prison being undeniably horrific. Les Miserables was an accurate portrayal of how prisons in France functioned in Alexandre Dumas life time. life long Parol. And before that was the Chatodeef (can't spell French words) as seen in count of monte christo

@natwhyyy631 Год назад

Always stoked to see new Kay And Skittles!

@elonmusksellssnakeoil1744 Год назад

Baller video, comrade!

@riop6250 Год назад

Great video as always

@arcuscerebellumus8797 Год назад

The person who hurt me is a "monster", so leys put him in prison with other "monsters" where through mutual torture (inmates) and torture via third party (guards) he becomes more of a monster and/or crazy on top of that, so that when he comes out he hurts more people... that is... justice?

@FirestormMk3 Год назад

I mean, a scary amount of people I've met in person who when faced with the recidivism rate issue saw that not as an issue with prisons, but as proof that criminals are inherently evil and cannot reform, and therefore we need even longer sentences and expansion of the death penalty. Basically that 3 strikes policy was too lenient, we should just give life sentences to everyone for anything more severe than petty misdemeanors like traffic violations (of course most of them suddenly do get sympathetic about sentencing when it's white collar crime, for some reason - you know, civilized crime)

@arcuscerebellumus8797 Год назад

@@FirestormMk3It's not the people, imo - it's "the system" first. People just reflect it unwhittingly, because they don't see themselves as a whole, but instead as "independent actors", "atoms", "individuals", and - as a result of that skewed perspective - don't realise their class interests. Arbitrarily displacing and/or killing, and/or putting in a state of precarity of millions of people all over the world to "get a buck" - fine; stealing that same buck off of some other "individual" because the system left you out to dry - jail! It's not only the recidivism I'm talking about. I feel like the overwhelming majority of people in prison (even on their first term) were specifically MADE to be the way they are. Or, rather, they are an inevitable byproduct of having to have a "reserve army of labour", having people "left behind" systematically. Even the most beyond the pale serial killer level crimes (which are already the tiniest minority) would be down if, instead of just "punishing", we (i.e. humanity) tried to fix the problems at their source. :| The most fucked up thing in all of this is that we can't really even kill them (as much as some would want to). And not just because of some moralistic reason, but because the existence of someone at the bottom is required for the upper layers to stay in line under the threat of "sinking". We need to see "the bottom", we need to be afraid of it, we need to hate it - otherwise we might start to realise that our own position in society isn't that great either...

@MadameTamma Год назад

I love that even though you look at a topic unflinchingly realistically, you always offer hope to fight for in your videos

@Anonymous-gw1vd Год назад

I remember when Huey Newton said in his book that “all prisons are concentration camps.”

@oliverbohn8861 Год назад

Thank you so much for making this amazing video! It's a very needed topic, because of so much punischment culture, instead of restoretive justice

@stuartp2006 Год назад

It's the "I'm not touching you" of torture, it's largely for the sadism of the people inflicting it.

@RhianKristen Год назад

I'm starting to hope that instead of putting out moral spot fires - rascism, homophobia, sexiam, etc - people are starting to develop a more general sense of empathy. Recognising that any kind of bigotry or throttling of autonomy just isn't right. We can stand up for each other without having to be in close contact. We can think of different ways to be as people that don't require others under our feet to get what we want. Obviously, this is a slow process, but I can see the kernel of it forming, and I have hope for the future. I hope that we can truly become a moral people.

@FirestormMk3 Год назад

I vividly still remember in high school one of my classmates was one of the most constantly outspoken progressives you'd ever meet. I found myself meeting her at rallies and constantly making comments in class about the oppression of marginalized people, the needs for more equal rights, etc. This was during the W administration so it was more relevant that she would never miss an opportunity to demand equal access for women and gays in governments positions like the military (in the end she was definitely a liberal) and also gay marriage. Yet when we learned in class about programs increasing access to counseling and mental health services for prisoners, including for depression, there suddenly her belief in helping people through affirmative action, public housing, direct welfare payments, etc ended. Her immediate and strong reaction was, "I don't think they should have access to that. I don't want prisoners to be happy. They should be miserable, that's the point of prison." So yeah, I'm not surprised that I'm part of only around 10% of Americans who don't see the cruelty as the point. I wish I could see prison reform as a thing that could even be possible before America has so radically changed that it's ready to overthrow the government in favor of a new socialist regime. Which is to say, I don't see it happening any time before the mass die offs from climate change (and most likely not even then, the societal collapse will probably lead to either fascism or corporate feudalism).

@taveshii Год назад

Ive been noticing how the more recent cop shows no longer have that "apolitical" vibe and always feel the need to have some culture war discourse. I didnt understand why they felt the need to do this since it felt more counterproductive than just ignoring it. I guess they really must be getting scared as you say.

@Nai-qk4vp Год назад

That disgusting piece of shite COPS even got cancelled.

@LandgraabIV Год назад

Great video!

@kkkkkkkk652 Год назад

NEW KAY AND SKITTLES GAME LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

@yeasr7781 Год назад

This is important

@edward9674 Год назад

Thank you for another good video.

@renaigh Год назад

if the survey said 'Punishment or Torture' people would choose the one that sounds less like torture.

@T_Dot94 Год назад

great video!

@rillrill1312 Год назад

thnk u for all ur hardwork n research, another great video!

@onetomeplz5825 Год назад

Something about class contradictions or some

@SnoFitzroy Год назад

YOOO KAY GOT SPOONSORED

@Etudio Год назад

It's clear that the predominant culture on this continent that's most sick. We *NEED* a Cultural Revolution.

@meander112 Год назад

Engagement for the engagement god. Ugh.

@tehwilsonat0r Год назад

Engodement for the engodement gag.

@augustb.w.4778 Год назад

Engagement for the engagement god

@AlexGreat87 Год назад

Great video! But one small piece of criticism, please, don't say "American prison are violent, unsafe, and abusive as far as the first world goes". There are prisons systems in the "third world" (or "second" if you consider places like China, Cuba, or North Korea as so) that are not even close as violent, unsafe, and abusive as the US itself; I'd rather be in a prison in Chile, Uruguay, Botswana, or even Turkey than a US prison. Prison-system wise, US is at the bottom of the barrel in the world in this area.

@percsie3072 5 месяцев назад

Found your channel from a community post from saji sharma, great channel currently binge watching/listening to all your videos. Great stuff. Love the perceived identity that I am projecting onto you. Keep doing what you’re doing. I’m drunk

@1227CGanimated Год назад

I personally believe *anyone* could be reformed, except for the bourgeoise. Those bastards are the only ones who deserve solitary because of the fact that they have done it to so many people.

@aviendha1154 Год назад

Statistically, everybody knows at least one rapist who will never be charged let alone conflicted.

@soulseer5789 Год назад

Fantastic video, I thought I was relatively well educated on this subject but It seems like the depravity of the justice system never stops growing. Threatening solitary confinement as a means of legally-sanctioned torture to strong-arm prisoners into free labor is some sickening shit I hadn't known of.

@MarxyMarxAndTheFunkyBunch Год назад

Fantastic video!

@Katyamuffin Год назад

Very good and based video, as usual. The more I learn about the US the more glad I am that I flushed my green card down the metaphorical toilet. You couldn't PAY me to move there.

@willowarkan2263 Год назад

Mind I wouldn't even call what prisons do and what people want them to do as to punish, I would call it a desire to torture, a morally sanctioned torture. They can't go see lynchings anymore so now they spectate or cheer on whatever capital "punishment" that remains. No more people in stocks to publicly denigrate, beat or even kill, so people make do with imagining the suffering of inmates and enjoying entertainment when it makes the billionth dropping the fucking soap joke. Any guilt is assuaged by telling themselves they deserved it. No crime is too minor for the wildest forms of torture, although almost exclusively for the poor and poor adjacent.

@RedSntDK Год назад

Even if you turn American prisons towards rehabilitation, what are you rehabilitating them _from_? These prisoners often don't have anything else in their 'backpack', and why is that?

@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm Год назад

Witness the power of The Holy Numbers as they bless you with this fine video.

@Ailasher Год назад

What is the maximum (one-time) solitary term for prisoners?

@FirestormMk3 Год назад

I don't know what the record is, but it's immaterial when there are multiple documented instances of people spending over a decade in solitary. Even worse is many solitary cells are especially inhumane even discounting the isolation. Many solitary cells have full brightness lights 24/7 and a lot don't even provide a mattress. Imagine basically being in a small walk in closet with super bright fluorescent lights always on, no window, no human contact, just a couple times a day some food comes in through a slit, usually without a word to you. As solitary is a "punishment," you usually aren't even allowed a book from the prison library if it has one. I'd literally rather a firing squad than 90 days in those conditions, especially since repeated studies show less than half that time in solitary can cause severe permanent mental illness. And we make people spend YEARS like that, many of whom are literally screaming, jibbering, destroyed people, often having permanent issues distinguishing fantasy from reality anymore. There aren't words for how monstrous the practice is under any circumstances, and in America it's outright commonplace.

@Ailasher Год назад

@@FirestormMk3 Well, I'm just judging from the "inhumane" GULAG system. The maximum term of SHIZO (punitive isolation cell) in the USSR was 15 days. This was and is considered the harshest punishment for prisoners, and was applied to persistent troublemakers. Ten years in solitary is just crazy, literally. And round-the-clock light, as part of a form of physical treatment in the form of sleep deprivation, was part of the NKVD torture system. I mean: exerting pressure on the prisoner during investigative measures, but not as part of the punishment itself. In general, the Soviet system had one of the mildest forms of capital punishment: the condemned person was brought out ostensibly for interrogation, then the executor shot him in the back of the head while walking down the corridor: this alleviated the psychological suffering of both the condemned and the executor. It is literally insane to claim to be a paragon of democratic freedoms and achievements at a time when internal social procedures are more brutal and inhumane than in a society that just a decade ago (if we are talking about the 1930s) had a devastating civil war and within that society a hidden civil war continued until World War II.

@anomalapithecus Год назад

i'm commenting on a youtube video i think should get seen by more people

@garretwoeller7669 Год назад

Even as a guy who is striving for a job that only works in a capitalist society think this is beyond fucked

@ButWhyMe... Год назад

Wat jab.

@garretwoeller7669 Год назад

@@ButWhyMe... Private security and general mercenary contracting.

@ButWhyMe... Год назад

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@garretwoeller7669 Год назад

@@ButWhyMe... Network get to know people best way to find gigs

@ericcarabetta1161 Год назад

The more I learn about our inhumane, outrageously unfair carceral system, the more I become an advocate for prison abolition.

@uanime1 Год назад

While people may want drugs decriminalised they are more than happy to keep all other crimes. Thus violent criminals will continue to be sent to prison and the people will praise whoever does this.

@pufffincrazy5275 Год назад

bUt WhAT ABouT the gULaGS?!?!

@zainmudassir2964 Год назад

It's lonely 😭

@piratemir44 Год назад

I do believe in prison labor but I will always stand on rehabilitation and reform. Prisoners diverse rights. This video expanded my minds and expanded my principles. Thanks

@autoteleology Год назад

I don't know why you think the low value unskilled labor that is a product of prison labor, that only powerful people benefit from, is worth the glaring incentive for powerful people to put more people in prison. Prison is the last resort and thus there should be every incentive to keep people out of it.

@piratemir44 Год назад

@@autoteleology yes I support that

@Syurtpiutha Год назад

You said in your video that the Norwegian prison system wouldn't be your first choice when it comes to the prison system, so that leaves me to wonder: What is? I'm not trying to defend the Norwegian system, mind you, or the abomination that the US system is, but I am curious what you'd consider a good system.

@samthomassen9021 Год назад

My guess would be prison abolition, replacing prisons with a restorative model of justice

@ButWhyMe... Год назад

Nice video. Tbh, I always think that the news and stuff really isn't for us you know? It's for the parents of the future generation, it's for the communities of the future generation. Unless by "educate those around us" you mean the youth, whatever progress we've made will be overwritten, will be reversed. Oh, and the stuff about sterilization and population growth control will be giving me nightmares and fuel to write something, so that's good. Very interesting topics, particularly with the demand for sex ed, trans people may always be at risk of being portrayed incorrectly with the expanding paranoia of you-know-what. It's paradoxical (it isn't)!

@gwenrose3211 4 месяца назад

America, Christian America in particular, has always had a fascination with the concept of Hell. It's perversely gratifying to imagine wrongdoers being tortured in hell forever. But imagining it isn't nearly as gratifying as building a hell you can see and touch, which is what the US prison system is really all about

@gwenrose3211 4 месяца назад

That and slavery.

@snrken Год назад

algorithm comment

@laurabXOTWOD Год назад

This is a tough one for me, I want to be a "good leftist" on prison abolition, but on the other hand, I've been dragged off the street by what turned out to be a serial rapist currently serving 10 life sentences. I guess I should preface this by saying I'm British too, we don't have quite the same problem with the prison industrial system as the US, tho I absolutely accept we still have many problems. In my attackers case I don't believe he will ever be safe to be released and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind there's multiple women walking around happy and unr*ped because he isn't on the streets. I also believe he was building up to killing someone/many women. It's not about punishment for me, I actually don't even hold especially hostile feelings towards him(anymore), because I don't believe he could ever be anything other than what he is, a sick, evil man. I don't want him to suffer, i dont care what little luxuries he has in his cell, as long as hes in it. For me it's solely about preventing him hurting anyone else, and I just don't see how anything other than a prison could do that. I do however absolutely agree solitary confinement is barbaric tho.

@christian2i Год назад

The visuals are too much for me on this one.

@salmonforest640 Год назад

John Brown did nothing wronge!

@betweenthebennyandme Год назад

I hate it here

@RedDawnAviation Год назад

Although I completely agree with you, and that solitary confinement is a form of torture and use to manipulate or gain compliance of prisoners. Glossed over a few important facts . Prisons in the United States are extremely violent they’re not nearly violent as those in South America. What I take issue with his your statement about defunding the police, and turning that money into social programs . He then sent to blame a lot of what’s going on in prison life as right, leaning problems, and because of the right, which I completely disagree with. As an example in your video, you mentioned that the defunding the police has had no affect because it hasn’t happened when the reality is the obviously the opposite one is only to take a look at Seattle or San Francisco to see the incredible rise in crime because of the lack of Enforcement and repercussions of such crime. Although I think there is a middle of the road solution that would be indicative of the way, Norway and Sweden handle crime I do not think we’d have to go that far but I do believe that we could create prisons for extremely violent, murderers, gang members, etc. and keep them separated from the people who get popped for Some drugs in their car, you know, unintentional or manslaughter things like that. These prisoners could be managed more around rehabilitation as opposed to punishment. I will go so far as to say that if it’s your first offense, once you serve your time, your record expunged (public version - in other words, you and I have to claim that you are an ex-con), however, if it turns out to be your second defense, then your record stays true, and the first offense is re-recorded publicly. I understand that this video is an opinion piece and although I don’t totally disagree, I do have different opinions on some of your subject matter regardless good job it’s nice to see some people out there care whether I agree completely or not. My one piece advice is try not to make us a political piece in the future and make it a factual results oriented piece and speak of the things that you have personal knowledge. Example defunding the police did not work or even come close to it.

@martonpapp269 5 месяцев назад

Perhaps I am alone, but what about Stalin and his work camp system Gulag? I do not stand against him, but now I am a bit confused. Nobody deserves to be forced to work in the USA, but according to us, the people who were in the gulag camps forced to work is fine? Like what? Please, explain. I want to know so please let me know what is the perspective of communists and this subject, the duality of the subject. Or maybe there is no duality and I just completely misunderstood everything. Like how can it be that nobody, even if he/she commited a crime in the USA like killed someone doesn't deserve to be forced to work but someone who was killing women and children in the forests of Belarus deserves it. So please, EXPLAIN! Thanks

@StainsStainsStains Год назад

Tbh, I dont care about rehabilitation and i never have. I never believed prison was for rehabilitation though, just used as an attempt to appeal to all sectors of the public, from people who view prison/execution as a moral imperative and societal obligation to those who think a hug is all thats needed. I never really thought about the idea that punishment is about making me feel good, but yeah... i can see that. I believe execution for the most heinous of crimes is required but I always thought it was because the widespread execution rate would deter future crime but now I see that while that still might be true, it would also feel REALLY good to me to know that people who murdered and r*ped were being put to death on a regular basis. It would feel good to know that once caught, thats all they have to look forward to. Im still ok with that, despite now realizing there is a selfish element to my feelings on it.

@DeathToMayo Год назад

There's no evidence that it works as a deterrent. In fact, all studies on the matter suggest that harsher punishments have almost no effect on crime rates. People who commit these heinous crimes almost never think about what might happen if they get caught. Furthermore, we can never be 100% certain of someone's guilt. Between 1970 and now, nearly 1 in 8 people on death row have been exonerated. Given how hard it is to actually get that done, it's certain we have killed countless innocent people in the name of the death penalty, though we will never know how many.