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WHY DOES A PLUG GET HOT - WHY WILL A 13 AMP FUSE NOT FUSE EVEN AT 20 AMPS - USING THE FUSING TABLES 

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Very recently, I was asked the following question about plug top fuses …
If it says 13 amps on the fuse … then why does it not fuse at 13 amps? Which is true.
So in this video from LearnElectrics we will look at this, explain the reasons for it and answer some other questions like -
Why does a 13 amp plug, or plug top as we call them, overheat?
And a popular question, can a 13 amp fuse REALLY carry 20 amps
And we will also look at the fusing characteristics of a BS1362 fuse and explain how the fusing tables work and how we can quickly and easily interpret the information that they hold. Hopefully, things will be a lot clearer afterwards and a little more knowledge will have been stored in your mental toolbox.
If we can understand the fusing curves of a BS1362 plug top fuse, as shown in this particular video, then we will also understand how the fusing tables work for other fuse types.
Each fuse type will have its own unique requirements, how much current, how much time etc. as defined by the relevant design standards for that fuse. They are all different but have many similarities in how they are laid out and in how to interpret them.
This is video number 248 and to view all our videos type in LearnElectrics all one word into the RU-vid search bar.
Visit our RU-vid channel where we have many more videos on a wide range of electrical topics.

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Комментарии : 49   
@user-qi8tv2sj4m
@user-qi8tv2sj4m 14 дней назад
Mate this is so useful. I will never look at a plug the same again. Just brilliant. Thankyou. Please keep the videos going.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 14 дней назад
Thanks, will do. Lots more to come and glad you liked the video. Dave.
@ivanbuckingham2302
@ivanbuckingham2302 17 дней назад
I'm just about to finish Level 3 after 2 years of study and here I am learning valuable information about a plug top from RU-vid. Thank you.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 День назад
Plug tops are important. They contribution to safety is so often just bypassed by the consumer. load it up load it up it will be ok. Now you can tell them why you are suggesting extra wall sockets and to stop using those 4 extension leads.
@davycarr7026
@davycarr7026 5 дней назад
Thank you for taking the time and effort to produce very informative video's on electrical subjects
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 дня назад
Thank you, appreciated. Dave.
@rjfxr
@rjfxr 17 дней назад
Can't get better than this. Thanks for sharing
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 День назад
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you. Dave.
@excuthiesboy
@excuthiesboy 17 дней назад
Thank you again - Very clear presentation - Every domestic user should know this
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 День назад
Exactly, and now we can tell them why they should ditch the extension leads and have you fit extra wall sockets. Its all for their safety. Dave.
@iqbalnuthoo1566
@iqbalnuthoo1566 16 дней назад
Well as usual you are amazing. They do not teach this stuff, all your videos are so educational.. Thank you!
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 14 дней назад
Thanks for the great feedback, appreciated. Dave.
@johnshiels842
@johnshiels842 17 дней назад
Yet another of your brilliant videos David
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 День назад
Thanks John. Super comment. Dave.
@davidpatterson1574
@davidpatterson1574 16 дней назад
Great little video Dave-
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 14 дней назад
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the comments. Dave.
@danielteyehuago1633
@danielteyehuago1633 17 дней назад
Wow! This video is very informative and the best video tutorial on the topic for me so far. I really appreciate it. Thanks for sharing it with us Dave
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 День назад
You're very welcome and I'm glad that you enjoyed it. Great support, thank you. Dave.
@Tony-tu7gq
@Tony-tu7gq 11 дней назад
Love these videos, made so easy to follow 👏
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 дня назад
Glad you like them. The intention is to make one video per subject so that everyone can follow them. Dave.
@Dog-whisperer7494
@Dog-whisperer7494 3 дня назад
The heat generated in a plug top fuse this is why I was always told to replace moulded plugs with a standard plug as heat can not escape from a moulded plug and may result in the plug overheating and burning. Also a standard plug has a small hole above the earth pin and a wide opening for the flex these allow heat to escape from the plug . Moulded plugs are completely sealed so heat can’t escape from them.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 дня назад
What an excellent observation. I never thought of that so thanks for enlightening me. Brilliant. And thank you for watching and contributing, appreciated. Dave.
@dimitrisblane6368
@dimitrisblane6368 17 дней назад
Thank you! Is the plug in the end of the video miswired on purpose?
@shuhaimiibrahim9503
@shuhaimiibrahim9503 17 дней назад
Yes. It could be to test the viewers.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 День назад
Yes, It is next to the paragraph that says always check the plug when doing PAT testing. Well spotted. Dave.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 День назад
Not exactly a test, but nice to see that some of you have spotted this. It was put next to the paragraph about checking plugs on PAT tests on purpose.
@danielteyehuago1633
@danielteyehuago1633 17 дней назад
I'm here again thanks for sharing this with us
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 День назад
Happy to see you again Daniel. Take care my friend. Dave.
@azadsmail8
@azadsmail8 17 дней назад
Another amazing video well done, could you please have a look at plug picture ?
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 14 дней назад
The plug picture near the end is next to the paragraph that says always check plugs when doing PAT testing. Well done for spotting this. Dave.
@user-oi6bf7uq6u
@user-oi6bf7uq6u 7 дней назад
Thank you for the so informative explanation .The wiring on the demonstrated picture of the plug top are wrong .way round.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 дня назад
The plug top is next to a paragraph that says - always check plug tops when doing PAT testing. If you don't take the cover off, you will never find the problems. Well spotted
@lylewatts6370
@lylewatts6370 17 дней назад
An other good video with need to know info. But is there other sizes of fuses available for smaller appliances. Thanks for sharing.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 14 дней назад
Yes there are other sizes. The trend now is to install either 3 amp or 13 amp, as required, and 5 amp for computers.
@gbelectricks
@gbelectricks 17 дней назад
Great video as ever Dave. Why do manufacturers and British Standards design these fusing factors into their overload devices? Why can’t a fuse with an “In” of 13A operate at 13A of current? Or an MCB with an “In” of 32A operate at 32A?
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 дня назад
Something that always concerned me. They should all allow a small overload for e very short time, but agreed, where is the safety in waiting two weeks for the fuse to blow if your stood on a chair with a handful of live wires.
@tariqazeem237
@tariqazeem237 16 дней назад
The 3 pin plug at 14 min has the blue wire connected to the fuse?
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 14 дней назад
Yes it does. It's next to the paragraph about checking plugs when PAT testing. Thanks for watching, appreciated, Dave.
@gaz4276
@gaz4276 12 дней назад
Well done spotting the deliberate mistake
@dastanaiub4607
@dastanaiub4607 17 дней назад
may you add another vedio about how to find a .short circuit or wire, in a house
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 дня назад
This video is about finding breaks in cables. Thanks for the prompt, I could do a video on shorts. Good luck. Dave. Take a look on this link. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FtMUuj8GaZQ.html
@olly7673
@olly7673 17 дней назад
It's amazing how many experienced sparks don't even understand the concept of Fusing factors and tables. For example, how many times do we see immersion heaters fed from a 13A FCU instead of a 20A DP switch? Thanks for the usual, clear way of sharing your knowledge 👏
@MS-Patriot2
@MS-Patriot2 16 дней назад
If the cable from the switch to the immersion is suitably rated, then why is it a problem? Immersion elements are 3000w drawing 12.5 A for about an hour per full tank reheat. 1.5mm heat resistant flex has a rating of 16A, I would use 2.5mm which is 24A. The whole circuit should be on a 16A MCB/RCBO. I would argue either method of isolation is satisfactory, but every day is a school day?
@olly7673
@olly7673 15 дней назад
@@MS-Patriot2 interesting to see you choose 2.5mm over 1.5mm even though 1.5mm is rated at 16A and well above the 12.5-13A the element can draw. I agree with your choice and for me, it is because of the time the cable and switch will be drawing that current for 2 hours or thereabouts for an average 117L tank, rather than the hour you suggest, and doing that cycling regularly will and does eventually deteriorate the plastic of the FCU. Also, as you point out the regs stipulate it should be on its own circuit anyway, so does it need a 13A BS1362 after your OCPD in the board? I don't think so. And yes, every day is a school day for me as well.
@MS-Patriot2
@MS-Patriot2 15 дней назад
@@olly7673 Nice discussion, how it should be. Made me think a bit more and I’m now going to replace a couple that I have put on FCUs with the 20A DP switch. Why else would they make one !? I have seen the heat damage on older installations, it’s real. I prefer the 2.5mm flex just for the safety margin but it’s probably overkill as the load won’t draw more than 13A and the 16A mcb will instantly trip on a live fault and the RCD/RCBO will catch the other more likely faults. Same argument for purpose built immersion timers, they need to be rated for the duty cycle. Now shall we discuss the cooker diversity chestnut ?👍😎
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 День назад
A 13A switched FCU with 1.5 heat resistant three core is given in the books. I like the idea of using a 20 DP, plenty of room to get 2.5 cable in.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 День назад
Great comments, really appreciated, Thanks.
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