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Why does Jordan Chiles have to return her Olympic gymnastics medal? 

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@jamescummings6703
@jamescummings6703 2 месяца назад
So here is the bigger question, why can't Sha'Carrie Richardson file an appeal. After all France made her walk 1 hr to another gate and didn't allow her to warm up.
@nekohuntress99
@nekohuntress99 2 месяца назад
crazy that both Romanian Federation and the American federation have agreed on having both athletes getting a medal and FIG is the real one denying this resolution and creating a case
@_-Seven_707-_Zero
@_-Seven_707-_Zero 2 месяца назад
La legítima dueña era Anna, de todos modos.
@userunknown1578
@userunknown1578 2 месяца назад
​@@_-Seven_707-_Zero Sabrina is the rightful owner.
@PaulDanielGolban
@PaulDanielGolban 2 месяца назад
The Romanian Federation requested a bronze medal for all 3. The American side agreed. Unfortunately, the FIG not.
@roycealgonquin8139
@roycealgonquin8139 2 месяца назад
Question: why 3? Shouldn't it be 2? I may have missed something...
@therealpatrice-md3yy
@therealpatrice-md3yy 2 месяца назад
I saw that too FIG not loosing anything by doing so I don't get it.
@userunknown1578
@userunknown1578 2 месяца назад
​@@roycealgonquin8139 Because Sabrina was the gymnast that should've got the Bronze... But all people talk about are Jordan and Ana.
@HollyGolightly078
@HollyGolightly078 2 месяца назад
@@roycealgonquin8139 There was a second Romanian gymnast (Sabrina Voinea) who would have scored even higher than Jordan if the judges didn't mess up her score.They deducted her for an out of bounds mistake she did not commit. So technically, Sabrina Voinea is the one who should have gotten the bronze, not Jordan or Ana.
@KARMAGEDDEM
@KARMAGEDDEM 2 месяца назад
​@@HollyGolightly078not true the judges messed up Jordan scored also
@kevinc1315
@kevinc1315 2 месяца назад
I would have given out three bronze medals in this case. One to the US and two to Romania. Multiple judging errors were made.
@rongold7719
@rongold7719 2 месяца назад
At this point what meaning do these medals have? Horrible for all.
@cola7ups823
@cola7ups823 2 месяца назад
And what are they going to give the gymnast who can in fourth place?, Chiles was in fifth place.
@kevinc1315
@kevinc1315 2 месяца назад
@@cola7ups823 - Nothing, because there weren't any issues with her judging or placement.
@Ghost-un6oe
@Ghost-un6oe 2 месяца назад
No, Jordan should keep 3rd, doesn't matter if multiple judging errors were made at the time of the event, otherwise if we scrutinize the scoring of Everyone after the fact you would see that judges made mistakes across the board for multiple competitors. Whatever the judges decide at the time of the event should stand. People are only scrutinizing this after the fact because Jordan is biracial up against a Caucasian. When Aly Raisman' was rescored into 3rd no one went back after the fact to scrutinize videos to see if she really deserved it, they just accepted the judges decision and that other country didn't try to strong-arm the medal back from Aly like Romania is doing to Jordan.
@rongold7719
@rongold7719 2 месяца назад
@@Ghost-un6oe How about when she got her original score changed and that new score put her in the bronze
@shellyortiz1977
@shellyortiz1977 2 месяца назад
This was so wrong but I saw both floor performers but the romenians had a more difficult routine.i think both should be given a bronze that's a mistake on the judges
@EvynSanford
@EvynSanford 2 месяца назад
Jordan and the Romanian gymnasts should both get a bronze medal
@carmencvetkovic3489
@carmencvetkovic3489 2 месяца назад
In 2012 at the London Olympics the Romanian Catalina Ponor was stripped of her bronze medal in favor of Aly Raisman after an inquiry. I am glad that the Romanian Federation has decided this time to not accept quietly this outrageous situation and to fight for their gymnasts who have been treated and marked unfairly. See the case of Sabrina Voinea penalized for a mistake she never made. She should have been on the third place. It is time that the US stops bullying small nations into giving up their well deserved medals in favor of American athletes.
@tailoredfor831
@tailoredfor831 2 месяца назад
They were wrong considering Romania lied about the time of when the inquiry was placed. Supporting that is wrong.
@popeekai.m6368
@popeekai.m6368 2 месяца назад
@@carmencvetkovic3489 louder!
@parkermudsen1063
@parkermudsen1063 2 месяца назад
This wasn’t a matter of the U.S. bullying anyone. Romania falsely claimed that the inquiry was made 4 seconds after the allotted time. That was incorrect because the U.S. coach made the inquiry twice within 1 minute. All three of the girls should’ve gotten bronze, but now this bronze medal is tainted with controversy.
@romanredivivus5100
@romanredivivus5100 2 месяца назад
@carmen - yes, they don't know how to lose and think Romania is a docile country which can be robbed of medals as they want. The whole world saw that and condemned their atitudes. Now, their media is charging strongly against Romania and in favor of their gymnasts. Jordan - 5th place. Judges were correct. It was attempt against the Romanian swimmer David Popovici too made by England - bronze medal.
@Micha_mg
@Micha_mg 2 месяца назад
@@parkermudsen1063is this what they told you?
@mandisamthembu9230
@mandisamthembu9230 2 месяца назад
Why would you even fight to keep a medal so tainted
@rongold7719
@rongold7719 2 месяца назад
@@mandisamthembu9230 That’s my thought. I’m not sure who won that medal at this point.
@chr0n0tr1gger3
@chr0n0tr1gger3 2 месяца назад
Why does Jordan have to return her Bronze medal? Because she didn’t get 3rd place. Everyone knew she was not better than both of the Romanian girls.
@l.d.t.6327
@l.d.t.6327 2 месяца назад
Better is quite relative. Scoring higher is what counts, taking into account difficulty of exercise and performing that exercise. Romanians may have had a better performance, but a lower difficulty. Both count.
@metalmacabre9991
@metalmacabre9991 2 месяца назад
Exactly right thanks for saying that, and I'm an American. Her crying and acting like a baby about it, just makes me angry as an American as well. The Romanian girls weren't crying lol.
@chr0n0tr1gger3
@chr0n0tr1gger3 2 месяца назад
Give a bronze medal to both Romanian girls and tell Jordan to go take a mental day from all her crying.
@freezefrvme
@freezefrvme 2 месяца назад
me when i know nothing about gymnastics
@illy2222
@illy2222 2 месяца назад
the girls were crying. there are recordings everywhere showing they cried lol. plus both girls said they'll be quitting gymnastics after this. it shows their poor experience at the olympics.​@@metalmacabre9991
@Andersonsdanish
@Andersonsdanish 2 месяца назад
Seems like a hollow victory for Romania. Who wants to win based on a judge error and not on performance?
@mariusdaniel4597
@mariusdaniel4597 Месяц назад
USA???
@tea2987
@tea2987 2 месяца назад
Poor girl, She worked so hard for her medal just for the Olympics to take it away?… stay strong Jordan ❤
@HighSpeedChaser
@HighSpeedChaser 2 месяца назад
Sabrina Maneca-Voinea, she worked hard too and was penalised for a mistake that the video replay said she never made
@debishvebishwish4839
@debishvebishwish4839 2 месяца назад
@@HighSpeedChaser and why are they repeating the same mistake? For vengeance?
@HighSpeedChaser
@HighSpeedChaser 2 месяца назад
No, It's because rules are rules.
@Nkosinati
@Nkosinati 2 месяца назад
I pray this may be a huge blessing in disguise for Jordan... She'll be getting more press than she's ever gotten for at least the next couple weeks...even more than Simone; hope she can translate that into greater platform and prosperity🙏🏿
@Pashaangel_
@Pashaangel_ 2 месяца назад
This is a horrible commentary on what happened. It starts off imagine having to ship your metal off. Come on so confusing
@jeffgoodman2803
@jeffgoodman2803 2 месяца назад
Thank you Jordan, you are a champion in our eyes.
@JoseRX95
@JoseRX95 Месяц назад
She can cry about it
@Wheelz2Zero6
@Wheelz2Zero6 2 месяца назад
At this point they should just give both of these people and Metal
@therealdarcman
@therealdarcman 2 месяца назад
They should make a medal for 4th out of cardboard, wood, or possibly tinfoil
@alexandracastillo200
@alexandracastillo200 2 месяца назад
Heartbreaking. So unfair.
@janetmckenzie146
@janetmckenzie146 2 месяца назад
I would like to see proof that the American Inquiry was 4 seconds over the allocated 1 minute. If this is true, why has no supporting evidence been presented? And if the US had proof of the inquiry taking less than 1 minute, why were they not allowed to present it? It is either 4 seconds over, or it wasn’t. Why all of the secrecy?
@jessicarios5415
@jessicarios5415 2 месяца назад
These judges were the same ones on breakdancing
@Blutteufel
@Blutteufel 2 месяца назад
So, they made the right call, then...
@jessicarios5415
@jessicarios5415 2 месяца назад
@Blutteufel I see what mean. Lol noo...I meant they were unqualified
@ActuallyDoubleGuitars
@ActuallyDoubleGuitars 2 месяца назад
Why can't there be joint winners for 3rd.
@Dude-etiquette
@Dude-etiquette 2 месяца назад
This was horribly handled. I feel for the Romanian athlete cause she wasn’t able to stand on the podium and celebrate and I feel for Chiles who has to return the medal
@AlfonseGambino
@AlfonseGambino 2 месяца назад
I can see wanting to keep a big chunk of gold, but bronze? Who cares.
@jeffhinkle736
@jeffhinkle736 2 месяца назад
Another example of the IOC HAVING RULES THAT ARE NOT RULES FOR EVERYONE.
@HighSpeedChaser
@HighSpeedChaser 2 месяца назад
Sabrina Maneca-Voinea was denied an appeal for an error that she never made that would have given her Bronze
@Griffex
@Griffex 2 месяца назад
Chiles never deserved it
@Nkosinati
@Nkosinati 2 месяца назад
I hate this... And yet, I believe this may be a huge blessing in disguise for Jordan... She'll be getting more press than she's ever gotten for at least the next couple weeks...even more than Simone, because of the controversy; hope Jordan can translate that into greater platform and prosperity for herself🙏🏿
@Warriorspremiers2024
@Warriorspremiers2024 2 месяца назад
They need to return Roy jones jr gold medal
@napoca7586
@napoca7586 2 месяца назад
The fig was wrong? The americans started with the request or?
@spanishitalian9435
@spanishitalian9435 2 месяца назад
Cause it ain't hers to keep.
@paulbrown447
@paulbrown447 2 месяца назад
Both should get it let’s make history
@jfk4864
@jfk4864 2 месяца назад
From all the news reports I've read, I haven't seen any proof from the Romanian Federation that the coaches inquiry was 4 seconds late. Which is what started this media disaster. Did they just say it was late and the IOC said, "Okay, give back the medal." What evidence did they provide showing the inquiry was late? The Americans have video proof it wasn't, so where did the Romanian Federation come up with 4 seconds? And excuse me, 4 seconds? Really? Could you be more petty?!!
@kaidusplatinum987
@kaidusplatinum987 2 месяца назад
Yes, it strongly is looking like the Romanian Federation submitted a dishonest and inaccurate appeal in bad faith and it didn’t get properly rejected- likely because of an assumption that they wouldn’t be trying to cheat the system that badly
@Blutteufel
@Blutteufel 2 месяца назад
You're both so wrong that it almost isn't funny...
@threatintelligent9794
@threatintelligent9794 2 месяца назад
@Blutteufel what evidence can you point to that is contrary to what’s being reported?
@GeronimoRosero-eg1hl
@GeronimoRosero-eg1hl 2 месяца назад
Romanian girl was better anyway
@kennishajones1
@kennishajones1 2 месяца назад
That’s your opinion 🤷
@popeekai.m6368
@popeekai.m6368 2 месяца назад
As it should be, she doesnt deserve the medal. Jordan's execution is poorly done with all thos low chest, multiple steps, flexed feet, crooked splits and robotic dance. Congratulations Romania well deserve
@tailoredfor831
@tailoredfor831 2 месяца назад
Funny, since you're not a judge... basically, you dont know what you're talking about. And there is a chance she will keep the medal she earned and deserved. Wheres yours?
@viorela77
@viorela77 2 месяца назад
@@tailoredfor831 According to CAS, the medal is .........in Romania! Look for it there!
@popeekai.m6368
@popeekai.m6368 2 месяца назад
@@tailoredfor831 stay mad, Jordan flop hard this olympics just like she did in Tokyo, when she fell on the floor which gave the Russians the Gold lol
@Pax_Mayn3
@Pax_Mayn3 2 месяца назад
@@tailoredfor831 Are you a judge? By your own logic you can't know what you're talking about. See how that works?
@Pitamonroe1210
@Pitamonroe1210 2 месяца назад
Clearly don't know gymnastics fundamentals or the rules smh
@kennishajones1
@kennishajones1 2 месяца назад
I don’t understand why people are saying the Romanian gymnast should also be awarded the medal. She never won. After Jordan’s score changed her score was higher, which means the judges made a mistake in the initial scoring. So, that makes Jordan the winning candidate.
@illy2222
@illy2222 2 месяца назад
her inquiry was late. thats why it doesnt count.
@kennishajones1
@kennishajones1 2 месяца назад
@@illy2222I’m not sure where you’re getting your facts. The US submitted evidence against those allegations.
@illy2222
@illy2222 2 месяца назад
@@kennishajones1 okay but where is the evidence? unless they make it public im not trusting that.
@mihaelabruma8006
@mihaelabruma8006 2 месяца назад
Medalia de bronz i-a rămas lui Jordan care a fost și pe podium. Anei i s-a dat alta medalie. Iar numele de familie al Anei e Bărbosu și nu Barbosa, sa n-o confundam cu Jade Barbosa.😳
@AHammock
@AHammock 2 месяца назад
Bravo Ana ✓ Romania #1 in lume la gimnastica 🏆👏
@wesleyball1205
@wesleyball1205 2 месяца назад
Literally the US is #1
@AHammock
@AHammock 2 месяца назад
@@wesleyball1205 Ai vrea tu 🏆🇷🇴
@kennishajones1
@kennishajones1 2 месяца назад
Haha, she never won by true merrit. She only has the metal because of false allegations that won’t be objectively examined. So, Bravo nothing. She didn’t win.
@debo4055
@debo4055 Месяц назад
Black privilege right here
@viorela77
@viorela77 2 месяца назад
Don't worry, Jordan can keep this medal, Ana doesn't need it. She will be given another medal. The initial one is toxic. It is about pain and sadness. Keep it Jordan!It will always remember you that your coach and the corrupt judges tried to steal other girls' work, it will always remember you of the ordeal they unfortunately made you go through. I really believe this is not your fault!
@fisforfriday
@fisforfriday 2 месяца назад
BOOOOOO 😂 cry harder. This just means we are coming stronger for 2028
@viorela77
@viorela77 2 месяца назад
@@fisforfriday Yes. You do that!
@watchingthecrazyworld7761
@watchingthecrazyworld7761 2 месяца назад
🤣🤣🤣
@Micha_mg
@Micha_mg 2 месяца назад
@@fisforfridaywhy cry? Ana got her medal back. Go Ana!! You cry harder!
@haniapowalka6052
@haniapowalka6052 2 месяца назад
This is not right for Jordan she deserves the medal
@garyroberts1205
@garyroberts1205 2 месяца назад
The judging errors were made for the DEI “all black podium” garbage and they got caught trying to cheat the system for “the message”
@johno.7016
@johno.7016 2 месяца назад
Imagine winning a competition, but the other guy got the medal because of administrative mishap? Also, what's up with the Romanian prime minister to threatening to boycott the closing ceremony because he thought ONE of the athletes should've won 3rd place? How terrible is it that now Ana Barbosu knows whenever she looks at that bronze medal everyone knows that it wasn't really won based on her performance, but due to some Olympic admin-jokers messing it all up.
@romanredivivus5100
@romanredivivus5100 2 месяца назад
@johno - imagine winning a bronze medal and some unhappy coach creating an international mess. Ana Barbosu and Sabrina Voinea ARE the righ winners, and the whole world know that.
@_-Seven_707-_Zero
@_-Seven_707-_Zero 2 месяца назад
​@romanredivivus5100 GRITA MÁS FUERTE, HAZTE OÍR🔥👍. Anna y Sabrina son las ganadoras legítimas.
@josephgonsalves8579
@josephgonsalves8579 2 месяца назад
I an not an expert on any of this. But I find it odd that about 80% of the articles on Chiles have blocked chat. And I do not believe in coincidence, that the head of the panel which rules on a Romanian medal has spent years with the Romanian team. And I find it odd that both countries have worked out a solution but the panel has it's own agenda. And I find it odd that oh let's us the China swim team as an example, some teams can find ways around stipulations made by the Olympic panels (like testing positive for banned substance) but Olympic panels seem to go the extra mile to "squeeze' American Olympians. That is an awful lot of odd things for one situation. Like I said, I am not an expert on any of this.
@metalmacabre9991
@metalmacabre9991 2 месяца назад
Then stop finding things odd, non expert.
@WhitneyGadison1
@WhitneyGadison1 2 месяца назад
The panel members (the CAS to be specific) who ruled on Jordan’s medal appeal have been known to help Romania in their legal cases. It’s not fair to Jordan or to anyone involved. She shouldn’t have to give the medal back. USA gymnastics better keep fighting for her
@Urumi89
@Urumi89 2 месяца назад
He also worked for th US.
@WhitneyGadison1
@WhitneyGadison1 2 месяца назад
@@Urumi89 not in cases like this.
@kishmishkashmiri
@kishmishkashmiri 2 месяца назад
@@WhitneyGadison1nor did he represent Romania in cases like this
@viorela77
@viorela77 2 месяца назад
@@Urumi89 👋👋👋
@musicsansnotes
@musicsansnotes 2 месяца назад
The US won over 125 medals and they had to bully a Romanian girl for her bronze! How despicable can the US behave? Chile is greedy and has poor sportsmanship skills. Booo! 👎 👎 👎
@braxides
@braxides 2 месяца назад
So they should hand out pity medals now because one country has won too many…ah…brilliant logic.
@musicsansnotes
@musicsansnotes 2 месяца назад
@@braxides The Romanian performance was brilliant 👏. It clearly stood out more than Chiles.
@Pax_Mayn3
@Pax_Mayn3 2 месяца назад
Ana won, jordan has no grace.
@Ekiwixo
@Ekiwixo 2 месяца назад
BOO 🍅🍅🍅🍅
@sebiahile1859
@sebiahile1859 2 месяца назад
Jordan go play sumo.
@Barbariansdagger
@Barbariansdagger 2 месяца назад
She never deserved it.
@marinamcclain1965
@marinamcclain1965 2 месяца назад
This is some bull 💩….
@Blutteufel
@Blutteufel 2 месяца назад
Wrong.
@mervyit
@mervyit 2 месяца назад
How's that 'all black' podium she mentioned going for her? 😂😂😂😂
@phasematerialsresearch9319
@phasematerialsresearch9319 2 месяца назад
All sane people still recognize it as an all black podium, the judges are corrupt and lied about the inquiry timing after scoring her wrong.
@Blutteufel
@Blutteufel 2 месяца назад
She scored less than the other competitors and, therefore, did not earn the medal. It's not rocket surgery, people...
@fisforfriday
@fisforfriday 2 месяца назад
She didn’t , she was not scored correctly. Nor were the Romanians
@johnbradley6466
@johnbradley6466 2 месяца назад
So she lost and isnt getting a medal? That seems fair.
@mdb1239
@mdb1239 2 месяца назад
Jordan won the bronze medal fair and square. Period. The only question is should they award a bronze to the 4th place competitor as well.
@HighSpeedChaser
@HighSpeedChaser 2 месяца назад
@@mdb1239 No, Sabrina Maneca-Voinea won the medal fair and square.
@mdb1239
@mdb1239 2 месяца назад
@@HighSpeedChaser Based on the judging of the floor routine, she was fourth place. But they did award her the bronze,, so I think she should also be allowed to keep it along with Jordan.
@HighSpeedChaser
@HighSpeedChaser 2 месяца назад
@@mdb1239 The judges incorrectly deducted points from Sabrina Maneca-Voinea, who would have been 3rd place regardless of what the outcome of the review of Chiles performance was.
@mdb1239
@mdb1239 2 месяца назад
Did they appeal it like the US did? If not then it is a smoot point. The US did appeal and got the points for Jordan.
@HighSpeedChaser
@HighSpeedChaser 2 месяца назад
@@mdb1239 yes, they did. The appeal was rejected because the rules state you can't appeal deductions. My point remains valid. She should not have been penalised and would have placed 3rd if the judges scored her correctly.
@secrettop-g3r
@secrettop-g3r 2 месяца назад
les miserables ......romanian diserve gold, was above all
@GymnasticsLoveWithVallerie
@GymnasticsLoveWithVallerie Месяц назад
Because she did not win it and stole it from Romania
@eddiem.5811
@eddiem.5811 2 месяца назад
This is similar to the Taylor Swift event, where she got an award and it was stripped from her by some yahoo....
@KarenChatterton-uq6rq
@KarenChatterton-uq6rq 2 месяца назад
Hope they do the right thi g and let her keep it. This is so wrong
@Blutteufel
@Blutteufel 2 месяца назад
She was never supposed to get it in the first place. Pay attention.
@HighSpeedChaser
@HighSpeedChaser 2 месяца назад
@@KarenChatterton-uq6rq No, Sabrina Maneca-Voinea won the medal fair and square. It's wrong that the judges scored her wrong.
@josebocanegra4477
@josebocanegra4477 2 месяца назад
Who cares? 🥱
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