Why does Ken Ham hate poodles? 

Ken's silly ideas reminds me of the naive person that says things like, "Crocodiles are less evolved than monkeys." based on the idea they are further away from humans on the evolutionary tree. But forms of crocodile have been evolving longer than primates, so who's to say which is 'more evolved'?

In reference to the Poodle cut on the Standard Poodle and NOT the exaggerated Show Cut the clip actually makes sense. The French Poodle was originally developed as a hunting dog specifically as a water retriever for Ducks and Geese and the hair that was left was to keep the dogs joints and body warm while the rest was quickly dried off with a towel or air dry between water retrieves. Honestly the Standard Poodle should be moved back into the Sporting Group as that is actually were they belong, while the American Cocker Spaniel with the exaggerated show clip should be moved out of the Sporting Group as a vast majority of them have lost most of their hunting drive and ability.

“A Basic Course in Genetics With Ken Ham” sounds like the name of a parody skit.

If Ken Ham was able to colonize a planet around another star would he want to bring along 'seven pairs of each kind'?

I'd argue that 1398 kinds* is too many to fit on the ark. That's why Ham is disputing his own "scientists" to lower that number even more. *Side note. The graphic on the display says "1398 kinds / 6744 animals". How does that math work? I guess it has something to do with 7 of some and 2 of others.

46:00 I'll echo that. Screw you, Ken Ham.

Happy birthday PZ's mom! xxx We had a toy poodle when we were kids. Loved him loads. In fact I still remember the sense of awe and wonder at having a dog, a tiny bundle of life. Poodles are smart, loyal wonderful dogs. Tammy used to know when it was time for our grandfather to get home from work. Yes they have eye problems, but so do humans when we get old. I'd rather have a poodle in my life than disingenuous arse like Ken Ham. We are part of nature, and the thought of having a common ancestor with all mammals and beyond, and even being made of stardust is mindblowingly wonderful.

Dr Myers, I have a question. I understand that there is a tendency for individual dogs from feral populations free breeding over doggie generations to exhibit a certain phenotype. Usually they are medium size, longish faces, short tan coats with countershading, folded down ears, and a curled up tail. Is there a term for that? I was thinking it was "wild type." Is that right? My dog is such a dog. We did a DNA test, and 8 breeds came back, including Great Dane and Dachshund. But I don't know what to think about that now because the estimated breed proportions totaled more than 1. But from what I've seen a little bit, the dogs of Chernobyl seem to be exhibiting more phenotypical variety. Climate maybe. Dogs are cool, I'm a social anthropologist, so an idiot in biology. Best wishes as the semester comes to an end.

Happy Birthday PZ's Mom 🎂! (and all hail the Poodle 🐩)

I want to add something to 2:48 about genetics. That placental mammals (including, but especially humans) had ova wasn’t known until *extremely* recently. Before then, people literally believed all the baby stuff came from male gametes. It’s why the Bible et fam throughout used the term “seed”, they thought the father was the only one involved in contributing “stuff” and the mother was just a place to grow the seed.

Ken Ham really has an obsession with bashing poodles. Did a poodle bite him or something? If so, give that poodle a treat. That is a good dog.

My mother's Birthday was yesterday, so Happy Birthday to your mother.

I had a thought a week or two back about why people look similar but different from their siblings and wondered if this could be used as an argument against creationists. I'm not a geneticist, but unlike Ken Ham lack the arrogance to think I can explain things I don't understand.

Ooh, Ken Ham on genetics! 🤪 But only ten minutes? Heck, I'm sure Ken can cover all he knows and *more* about genetics in ten minutes.

Oh hey! A video from PZ Myers! I have had a pretty great Sunday, now it's even better. (And the info on poodles is greatly appreciated!)

"Everything I ever needed to know about genetics I learned from Ken Ham in about ten minutes."

He's pretty harsh on bulldogs too. I'd say he hates all dog breeds, and only likes mongrels. Except that what he likes about mongrels is that they can be hit by trucks. So I think he just hates dogs.

I have to laugh every time someone has a go at poodles as some dainty foofoo dog. My service dog (now retired) is a standard poodle, and many of his half siblings also became service dogs or SAR dogs working in the Rockies. His dam (mother) held multiple titles in things like lure coursing and barn hunting. I have NO idea where the ridiculous hair cuts come from but all of the origin stories are myths; working poodles and gun dogs are generally kept in a uniform, short clip from head to toe, maybe 4-6cm long.

10 minutes of genetics is a long time for a creationist.

@PZ Myers’s 48:39, I learned that it’s your Mums birthday 🎉 happy birthday, wishing you a fabulous year ahead.

Thank you for your work. It’s so needed

The poodle hair cut also related to their role as hunting dogs. Poodles would plunge into cold water to retrieve shot ducks and geese, so they were shaved to remove as much fur as possible (to cut down the weight of the wet fur) but leave fur covering the areas of the vital organs (e.g., there are patches over the kidneys) for warmth. Whether or not this is actually effective insulation according to modern physiology or not I have no idea, but that was the idea.

"Hey friends!" Hey PZ! And greetings from St Paul, where it was just like summer, two days ago, for half a day.

I guess the lowest kevel of the ark was called the poop deck.

Thankyou so much for this video.

'Cuz The poodle bites. The poodle chews it.

24:55 What is in the very bottom left photo? That looks like a bear to me. Last I knew, bears and dogs were pretty darn far apart on the phylogenic tree...

45:30 Thou shall not covet. PZ Myers is coveting over the loss of his dog.

Sin soaked degenerate mutant ham and aigs! Happy birthday to your mom, thanks for this entertainment. It has that old Pharyngula vibe of chewing up really, really bad science.

there are only two kinds of birds. Ducks and non ducks.

For some people, ‘ Gen-‘esis seems to be the study of ‘ gen-‘etics

Thanks 👍

Catnip to you PZ.

I believe Ken Ham loves to talk about dogs, because he couldn't get away with talking about human eugenics any more these days.

At 1:57 I thought to myself why is this poor man about to torture himself. But I couldn't look away😮

ken confuses a haircut with gentics.

Mendel👉Watson-Crick👉Evo-Devo👉Ken Ham... Yup, definitely a loss of information somewhere in there.

Happy Birthday, PZ's Mom! Re: mutts. Wile E. Coyote, belonging to a kind of dog created directly by God, is able so come back from all kinds of abuse including falls, explosions, and high-speed impacts. This proves that unmodified dog breeds are genetically superior to those subject to artificial selection

...Ken Ham thinks recessive genes can't be passed on. This explains so much.

how were all the animals fed once they left the magic ark.all the plants would have been destroyed and the carnivores would devour the slow moving animals. possibly they were given pack lunches as they got off the ark. sad that Ken can convince others that his spiel is science.

Oh boy. Ken Ham and more foolish lies.

I guess for Ken Ham, poodles remind him of drag queens.🐩

I learned that Kens fictional god can't do evolution. Meanwhile, reality does evolution. Without even trying.

I had to pause to let my face rest from the facepalms. Embarrassingly bad describes Ham’s explanations exactly .

His “degenerate” rhetoric is disturbingly close to how Nazis talked about Jews and other minorities and to Civil Rights era southern racists and their ideological descendants.

I find that many YEC videos are short on scientific details and long on Biblical quotes. In other words their arguments are weak to establish their viewpoint(s).

Since Plato, one of the most active areas of debate in western philosophy throughout all eras has been the problem of universals. Sounds like Ken Ham never got the memo.

Wow, the poodle animosity is utterly bizarre. Then again, Ken Ham is utterly bizarre, too, so that tracks. Edited to add: The audience reaction is also something that really bothers me. Hearing cheering and laughing reactions from congregants to their religious leaders saying awful, clearly unchristian things gives me *such* a distaste towards religion.

If we "loose information", going from wolf to poodle, does this not imply that the poople is the purest form of a "kind". This as the information lost, should be the information "not needed". Ergo, a refinement of dna over time? On the other hand... we are considering a hypothesis formulated by AiG, soo... we should expect nothing to make much, if any, sense at all. What can usually be expected, is the lack of surprise as AiG "shoot" themselfs in the foot.

"pure" doesn't have the sense of perfect except to racists

saving this for the next person who claims atheists have no respect for life. Ken Ham is the one kicking puppies!

I wonder what psychological need Ken Ham is fulfilling with his delusions.

Why is he going on about kinds? Well, his entire shtick is to confuse and misinform kids, hoping they grow older to be equally misinformed. They are his cash cows, keeping him very well without doing anything equal to a real job. He's a grifter.

Finally, a clear definition of Biblical “kinds”. No more whining by “evolutionists” about it being too vague or unscientific! No more laughing at creationists, they are serious thinkers! A kind is 1. A chain of species that can be linked by interbreeding 2. Or whatever

As expected, very disappointed presentation about Genetics from Ken Ham. Also, all the best for your mother.

Stop doing the chicken dance. Debate Kent Hovind. BTW, man making corn adapt isn't the same as one kind becoming another in nature.

I'm shocked that Ken made fun of homeschooling in here. Ken, are you going to bite the hand that feeds you... in a video about dogs? 😅

I really really really want to point out the obsession with "degeneracy" from Ham, here. These are overtly racist poodle whistles. God made the "perfect human" and then S I N came into Man. What do you think Ken Ham thinks the "perfect human" looks like? What skin tone, hair, or eye color does Ken Ham think is the one "devoid of sin" (lets use a synonym, "pure"), which one is the original, dare I say, "Master" copy of gods chosen race? Somehow, I don't think he's going to describe middle-eastern Jewish ethnic traits (even though they're, you know, "God's Chosen People™")

Ken Ham just hates anything that he perceives as weak or useless. My dad, a staunch Creationist, is the same way. He's so cruel to animals that annoy him. 😡

Patreon? Why? Aren't you professor with salary and prestige?

But I thought "sin" was what Adam and Eve did by eating the fruit. Why do animals have to pay for their failing? Is God that much of a vindictive prick?

What all poodles are is ANNOYING. They aren't dogs. They are separate group altogether. To be treated with radiation and then buried in deep pits of strong acid covered over and forgotten as the failed experiment they were. I can go on. Poodles are example of Why all selection should be natural for the forseeable future. Why some dog breeders should be neutered. Why Pit Bulls should be encouraged to savage things that are not exactly true dogs. Why the French are called things.

It's amazing how little time it takes to spew ignorance, yet how long it takes to debunk it. It's why nasty people like Ham are still in business.