Honestly I'm glad that this is the case in Tears of the Kingdom, it makes the world feel a lot more real and lived-in! #nintendo #tearsofthekingdom #zelda
not really ironic. they remembered him after 100 years in the shrine of resurrection and he hadnt even done much at that point. after defeating their leader and essentially banishing them to the depths he would be public enemy #1 in Yiga land
i mean link literally defeated their leader and one of their main missions were stopping link from defeating calamity ganon, if anyone would remember its them
It upset me that beedle didn’t remember link. He’s literally his #1 customer dude Edit: I know that the game isn’t supposed to make too many references to BOTW as to not confuse newer players. However, I KNOW that save data transfers your horses over, meaning the game recognizes you have played BOTW. I think it would be cool if characters recognized you if you played BOTW.
Beedle likely knows, but has to pretend link is no different from any other customer. Link likely does not want too many people to know who he is. The stress and weight of expectation would return just like 100 years ago. Zelda definitely would agree the general public knew too much about him and this time took steps to limit the information that got out and only told those they trusted what really happened. This way link can actually retain some privacy and a life.
But to those people his presence is like a 2 minute conversation where he told them about Tarrey Town. Hudson and the people building the town would have a big presence in their lives, but your role is just some guy they met.
@@thebladedbeast3711 he actually did, and a lot, the only thing he couldn't was activating the constructs just because he couldn't, but all the vehicles they built there, all the research ongoing was quite great, at least in comparison to both the zonai zurvey team and josha
Honestly i would probably remember the dude that ran around naked smacking monsters with a tree stick but i can see how it might slip people's minds lol.
Link’s literally the main reason why Tarrey Town becomes what it is, very surprised that none of the NPCs that you personally recruited for it even recognize you outside of Hudson’s family
I’m still upset by the fact Kapson, the elderly zora who knew link from before the calamity (the one who you recruit to join Tarrey Town in breath of the wild), doesn’t remember you for some reason. Either this is a massive oversight, or the Zora are prone to dementia as well.
Well 1st, Hudson remembers cus you brought the love of his life to him, 2nd beetle doesn’t remember you cus you’re not his only buyer, which means he’s a big corporate success Edit: the reason why bolson doesn’t remember you is because it was 7 years since your house purchase, and you aren’t the only purchase he got.
@@Xerxine Beedle was hidden away for thousands of years, waiting for an opportunity to return, he was sealed away, he was too powerful. So he later returned as an all powerful being who can teleport. Now he must be punished for even existing. He was always too powerful, and now, it is our turn to get revenge. He dropped us down to skyloft for not buying anything. Why couldn't he just have a store on the surface? Simple. He wanted to destroy link, he started the yiga clan. He was Sooga. Strange how Sooga disappeared after so little time. How can we know for sure, though? Sooga is one of the most powerful beings in age of calamity, with the ability to block attacks, and he even could teleport. But that's just a theory! A joke theory!
@@GabeS-jm1zgbeedle is actually powerful enough to split into multiple forms of himself, you can gather up to for of him with a flying machine and they all share the same hive mind
I actually found it to be mostly opposite. Im sure there are some who appear to forget but I've encountered dozens of people who either directly remember who link is or talk about link but simply don't recognise I'm him. Also the entire gerudo town obviously remembers him since that's why he's the only voe allowed inside.
Yeah I honestly love all the recognition you get, or just hearing how everyone realizes how big of a deal Link is now. Even when you go to the yiga hideout, they admite they have to get stronger bc link is an absolute menace. Respect on our boys name
Well, most of gerudo town doesn’t actually know him. Or rather they don’t recognize him since they would’ve only known him as his vai disguise. They just know he’s some dude who helped out riju in a major way and she granted him access to the town so they just gotta go along with it
Except you still had to sneak into gerudo town after Vah Naboris and the only ones who knew (or at least said something about it) were some of the guards, Riju, and the GSC members. This canononically means that the Gerudo are so devoted to outdated rules that they didn't let the dude who saved them from an ancient death machine AND retrieved their sacred artifact enter their town until Riju said sometime later "Oh yeah that weird vai was actually a voe named Link, we're buddies since he was close to my great-great grandma, he's cool, he's the first dude allowed in our town for years." And then they still make fun of you for not being tall and having huge abs. I love the Gerudo.
yeah, people just expect every single npc he has ever interacted with to recognize him. Obviously in the whole population some people are either gonna forget him, or remember what he did but forget his face. Henry Cavill once went unnoticed just because he had sunglasses on.
Funny thing is, Hudson in Tarrey Town remembers you… he doesn’t say much about it, but when you first talk to him, he does a customer spiel and then says something to the effect of “oh, it’s you”
I got so pressed when the teacher was literally describing link in every way in the one hateno quest line, but never knew it was him 💀 edit: I worded this wrong: essentially, he said everything about Link but never stated it was really him in front of the students. I probably missed something since I’m racing to get to 100% update: I am at 80% 🥳
You can literally just go straight to the final boss after getting the paraglider so most of the main quests are in fact skippable. You'd think TotK being a sequel would encourage people to play the first game.
More likely they're catering to players who didn't play the previous game at all. Side quests are eluded to, but even the most familiar characters (outside the new champions and certain Sheikah) reintroduce themselves so new players aren't left wondering who they are and what their relationship with Link is.
@@minhteaa It wasn't the best executed. Would've been better to have a room of the schoolhouse dedicated to explaining where all the stuff from the previous game went since there's all that unused space, or maybe signs of dismantling work in the Hateno tech lab. There could have been a plaque in most towns hinting on past events. But I understand why they chose not to have all the Calamity stuff in there on top of the Upheaval map elements, and why they feel the need to reintroduce most of the characters.
I mean, Zelda would 100% tell everyone what happened. Link shouldve been a celebrity at the very least, though i guess people wouldn't know him by just looking at him (i think there are three gerudo women at a stable who corroborate this as they know about a hero that killed calamity ganon, but speculate that hes super tall and handsome) Its strange though because all of the sidequests are implied to be canon; the Tarrey Town -sons and the zora not remembering you is the most alarming to me
People do know of Link, the legendary swordsman of princess Zelda and slayer of Calamity Ganon, but Link looks so unassuming that no one thinks he is the hero. Imagine the surprise of the normal Hyrulean citizens when they see who that one guy who gave them 10 bugs actually is
The NPC Bolton for some reason doesn’t remember Link. He’s an NPC you interact with a lot in BoTW, and is the starting NPC for the eventual Tarrey Town construction. Tarrey Town is in ToTK, meaning buying the house in Hateno and mainly interacting with Bolson is a cannon event, but when you meet Bolson again in Luralin Village, he doesn’t seem to remember you.
@@pokehero5327dawg bolson gave link a 47,000 rupee discount on your house because he liked links go getter attitude and probably because he thought link was cute too. It was also a house they were about to demolish so he should have remembered all of it
I think people also need to realize that just because a character doesn't start their conversation with, "Oh hey Link, I remember you explicity. I love you man. I am making it known right now that I know you." doesn't mean the character completely forgot about Link.
@@TeknightJ It feels especially jarring for the Zora to not act familiar since the older ones were all "It's been so long!" in the previous game. But they could just be used to seeing him now and it might just be the younger generation explaining all the landmarks likes he's any Hylian tourist. I'll have to check.
Yes, but it's also hard to ignore when they all start their conversations with, "Oh, are you a traveller? Let me help you out, since you've never been here before!"
Bullshit, don't excuse shit writing with copium headcanons. Half of freaking lookout landing doesn’t recognize who Link is even though he is pretty much the highest ranked military man in the place. Kapson the guy who recognized you in botw and knew Link well doesn’t know who you are in this game. And there's dozens of other examples that made no sense.
@@alexgamer1556 If it’s the canon, then it’s the canon. That means that somewhere out there, there must be a solution to the most nonsensical situations that the game can throw at us. I’m simply presenting a way in which to explain the inconsistencies, not stating that they’re okay. If you have a theory you would like to share then go right ahead, but until then, don’t criticize us for having a discussion.
Hudson remembers you along with Rhondson, all of the Sages, the child zora who was dating an adult hylian remembers you, also there is one woman in Zora's domain next to the inn who remembers you as a child
There is also Teba and his wife, Buliara, Purah, Robbie, Impa and probably a few more. Basically anyone who played a major role in the main quests in BOTW, plus Tulin.
Just correcting you on something that’s a common misconception the hylian man and zora child aren’t dating it was a translation error, they are best friends however.
Don’t even get me started on the sages man. Every single one of them gave a knock of version of a champions ability form the last game EXCEPT yunobo WHO ACTUALLY HAD A CHAMPIONS ABILITY THAT THEY COMPLETELY IGNORED. Yet Sidon gave a knock of daruks protection? So annoying.
@@snakewriter7786that too is a misconception, she indeed holds romantics feelings for the hylian man, the original japanese script has her use a word that translates to "special one" in a romantic sense. Finley's problem is that she looks like kid while her younger sister looks older than herself.
I assumed that they did this because botw was so open and it would be weirder to be recognised by someone you might've never talked to in botw than being forgotten by most non-story relevant characters. So in my head, totk plays in a reality where Link actually hurried up during the events of botw to save zelda, instead of doing a thousand little riddles and sidequests.
didn't Hyrule Castle have a giant storm of malice swirling around it for 100 years, since Link died? he woke back up and there was still malice and monsters everywhere. i would have remembered the guy who saved Hyrule from Ganon after 100 years of chaos. although, some people may have been born and died within the 100 years Link was asleep, so it may have been normal to them ig
the malice storm around the castle didnt pop up untill shortly after the great platoe tower erupted if you begin the game again you can see its not there untill the great platoue tower cutscene
@@Higher-Groundt's because prior to that point, Zelda's seal was pretty much absolute besides small bits of malice escaping (presumably during Blood Moons), and once you awoke, the decay of the seal basically started weakening exponentially
Exactly! I think it’s been about 7 years but it’s not like no one remembers Link, just those who rarely spoke with him. But most people who had larger quests still remember him (for example Symin and Hudson) but like you said do YOU remember a random lad who you had a wholesome meeting with 7 years ago. Now as to why Hestu forgot Link I have no clue, maybe he fought another Calamity. Also do you think Age of Calamity is canon?
You could technically call it canon in the sense that it's contained to its own split timeline, but no, the events of Age of Calamity never happened in TOTK
Exactly, I had friends form 7 years that I wouldn't be able to recognize today, so I definitely wouldn't recognize some random dude I talked to. As for Hestu, I think he's just dumb. Bro lost all hundreds of his koroks in both BotW and TotK, and likely lost them all many other times. Him not recognizing Link, or just straight up forgetting about him, seems pretty on brand for him.
I’m honestly surprised that the Zora don't remember him (other than Sidon and Dorphean ofc). They literally remembered him for a hundred years, and then forgot in the span of eight months. That's messed up.
Simpliest answer: link doesn't want a repeat of what happened 100 years ago where a majority of hyrule knew his face or name and the kind of knight he was. Expectant eyes and ears followed him everywhere. Zelda likely agreed with him that way too many knew who he was and decided to only tell those they really trusted. I think beedle knows but has to pretend link is any other customer. Link basically suffered from overexposure to the public and never wants to experience it again. The pressure was too much.
My headcannon is that link went around killing monsters and traveling as Zelda’s guard but didn’t talk to people he just made sure monsters were dead Zelda’s safe because with Zelda she’s easy to hide just put in a cloak but I don’t think link used any weapons aside from the master sword after getting it so it’s much harder to hide a blade when you need to be ready than hide a face when you dont
Keep in mind, a lot of the side quests you did in breath of the wild were not canon. Impa tells link to get his ass to the divine beasts as fast as possible. So he did just that. He basically did a speedrun
He presumably did at least get the Master Sword though. The rest of the memories, he could've potentially went around being reminded of stuff by Zelda and the other people who are old enough to know him, after having defeated Calamity Ganon and saved her.
I do believe that Link being the hero he is would've done most of the quests, but I could understand monster medals and koroks not being canon, stuff like that.
two side quest probably were canon though: link buying back his own house in hateno village, and supporting hudson's dream of starting his own construction company by building Terry town. The first one being the need to provide zelda a place to live after this quest is over, as its not like she can live in the castle anymore. The second being that by supporting Hudson in building up terry town link would be making it easier for Zelda to enact any of her plans on restoring all of hyrule.
Even the ones that are canon like Terry Town have people who should recognize Link acting like they don't. Specifically the Zora priest who previously very much knew him treats him like a random traveler. It's weird that only Hudson and Rhondson recognize him. And unless I'm remembering wrong for that to happen you have to have gotten the house built, but in totk it's mentioned Zelda had the house built instead. It just doesn't line up with BoTW and is either oversight or an alternate timeline.
You'd think that Zelda would talk to people about what Link did to save them all from calamity (hehe), especially considering they all seem to know her but can't remember Link who never leaves her side 😂😭😭
I don’t get why everyone says NOBODY remembers Link. There are a few NPCs that don’t remember him, but there are tons of them that do. Everyone in the main story remembers him and lots of people around the map do as well, it’s usually NPCs who have no relation to the main story who don’t remember, and that could be because the stuff that happened involving them wasn’t canon, or it could be because they didn’t have time to worry about all of that while they were making this amazing game
But it's weird, because Bolson doesn't remember Link, (Bolson helped link build his house in botw), and the house is there and fully built in tears of the kingdom Plus Tarrey Town exists in Tears of the Kingdom, which you build in the same quest that Bolson helps you build you house, Hudson who builds Tarrey Town alongside link remembers, but Bolson doesn't?
@@lurker230 and my job is customer service, yet I remember every person who's called in. Even as far back as a decade The videogame character can should remember the hero of Hyrule who not only saved the entire kingdom but also helped him start the famous Hudson Construction company especially because he clearly knew of links involvement during Breath of the Wild
@@attackcrash655there is no way you said you remember everyone who’s called in for over a decade. You should be on Americas got talent for that amazing skill
They don't have to necessarily forget him, I think Link just has a major case of Tony Hawk syndrome. If Link entered a Hero of Hyrule lookalike contest he would score 4th place
I never understood this argument. Literally all of Lookout Landing remembers him. All of Zoras Domain remembers him. Most of the Rito remember him. Paya, Impa, Traci, the construction workers remember him. And all the other villages welcome him like a familiar face. Aside from actually new people, no one I remember treats him like a stranger
Plenty of people remember him, and like you said, its been 8 years. I dont remember most people I encountered from 8 years ago, and those I do remember clearly made an impact on my life to be remembered. All the right characters remember Link. It feels like it should.
@@Yamooski7 Thats what I thought at first too, but no. In breath of the wild, Hudson and Rhondson just got married. In Tears, their daughter is at least 6.
@@andrewgood7586then it’s been 6 years. mattison is supposed to be a clear indicator of time, they wouldn’t use her if they wanted to tack on an extra 2 years. also why do people keep saying that it’s be so long that no one would remember him? was link not living in hyrule? he didn’t just kill ganon and move away for 6 years. he continued to live there, people should know who he is.
Ahh the hard life of saving everyone from oblivion and have nobody even care. Link could try to go flex his accomplishments (if he could speak) and the people would respond: "Did I ask?"
Its stated in BOTW Link can speak, and actually is a lot more talkative then he was 100 years prior as before he put so much pressure on himself and always kept his problems to himself so no one would think of him as weak or unworthy, but after losing his memories he became more open and talkative I think he slowly is returning to how he was before though in tears of the kingdom as you see with Zelda he doesn't talk as much and just let's her do the talking which could also be a bit of survivors guilt after all his friends died to Calamity Ganon some of them died hoping he would save them in the end (Mipha) so honestly by this point Links lack of talking so much could just be do to depression and stress.
The first thing is that Link was all the hype right before the calamity and everyone looked up to him and the fact that supposedly he had a family to support and maybe even look after put basically TONS of weight on his shoulders and he eventually just stopped showing emotion and then when he regained his memory he didn’t want to carry that weight so they agreed to not tell anyone, I’d do the same thing in that situation.
It is kinda weird at first. But then again, saving the people of Hyrule was the most important part, not the recognition. And courage need not be remembered for it is never forgotten.
Plus alot of side quests in games are usually considered non Canon at times (eg when the the Hero of Kvatch or the Dragonborn from the Elder Scrolls series does side quests, it's hypothesized that these quests in Canon are actually completed by other individuals. Only Story/dlc story missions are counted as canon)
I'm still offended that Bolson doesn't recognize you. Dude, you fixed up my old house, was paid in money and materials, and you apparently messed the house up to give it to Zelda, so clearly you should know me
1. That seems like an insane amount of work for something that ultimately not many people would see. 2. Having quest npc recognize Link wouldn't really make sense as most players probably won't recognize them either.
Also in the time between BotW and TotK, Link went back to following Zelda around in the same fashion as he did when he was her appointed knight, so people making more note in their minds of Princess Zelda showing up and talking to them than her bodyguard further adds to this
My only criticism is that your BoTW save file should have recorded and carried over everyone you met and talked to for special dialogue. Had you not met or spoken to them, or if you didn’t have a save file then NPCs wouldn’t know Link save for the main NPC’s (Sages, Impa, Purah, Robbie, etc.). But I’m sure that would have eaten up a ton of data.
That also seems jarring while playing the game cause every other npc would be like, "Oh hey I remember you! You gave me raw gourmet meat several years ago!" And most people will not remember at all when they did that in BotW. It wouldn't really make sense and I feel like would take me out of the game because of how common that'd be.
I feel it’s hard to forget a small man carrying a massive sword and bows carried by the most dangerous beasts in the world, as well as conjuring bombs out of thin air
@@SCP-tn2lnI heard Gerudo age quicker so it may be less time but I like to think at least five years have passed. It just seems like a reasonable amount of time.
this is what i was kind of thinking, i doubt most people would remember someone they only really met once. the important people remember link - and it was definitely nice going to lookout landing and feeling like everyone knows you!
He actually does get remembered in some small instances. For example Hudson and his wife both remember and thank you for introducing them to each other. There's others but I can't remember
When I went to school I didn't loved socializing, but it really surprised me when I went back two years later to that same school only like 2 teachers and my old bully remembered me
I think Hestu should’ve at least remembered us, cuz even though technically he wasn’t a part of the story, I feel like he would’ve been a character Link met multiple times on his journey
@@gaymiensdude he saw us with Zelda and thought we were dating. I think he’s trying to make Link jealous but unfortunately, he ended up getting married and couldn’t back out the wedding 😂
@@joegardner851 somehow sidon's canon marriage just made him more into link considering the zora monument about his wife says that it was an arranged marriage and he considered her his big sister when they were kids... and then there's an entire separate monument talking abt how cool and awesome link is and how he's sidon's most cherished companion
My personal favorite Iroh quote "You must never give in to despair, slip down that path and you surrender to your lowest instinct. In our darkest times hope is something you give yourself, that is the meaning of inner strength." Iroh truely has helped me shape the kind of man I am now and strive to be.
Link isn't just a soldier. He's the guy who traveled across all of Hyrule helping out the Rito, Gerudo, Zora, Gorons, and Hylians. He helped free the 4 Champions and then marched to Hyrule Castle and took on Calamity Ganon. It's also pretty much confirmed he did all BOTW quests based on how he has max hearts, Tarrey Town is built, etc., so he should be more widely known. It makes no sense that the Gerudo know about Urbosa, the Rito know about Revali, the Gorons literally have Daruks face carved into the mountain, the Zora remember Mipha, and the Hylians can't even remember Link, the Hylian champion, but instantly recognize Zelda. Presumably Link is still Zeldas bodyguard so why does the entirety of Hyrule know Zelda but not her bodyguard, the guy who saved the world from Ganon? It's such a mess up on Nintendos part.
@@No-ze9lvto be honest I think that in canon link just did all the shrines,tarrey town and the main quest because if we look at the main quests the hylians in hateno a guy just went in walked to a lab and bought a house
@@No-ze9lvidk, it feels like Nintendo has made this incarnation of link play out like a side character, Zelda is the one who everyone seems to praise as the hero while link is just her bodyguard. I miss how it was in the older games where you actually felt like a badass mysterious hero.😮💨
And we also are in a more medieval time, so News and facts don‘t spread that well. And they likely don’t have the ability to make pictures and share them. So even if they heard the name once they don’t exactly know how he looks. That also is the reason why Yigas get trained to know how Link looks.
The time component is a good point, I hadn't considered that. Although I do wish Beedle remembered him :( he seems like the kind of lad who would never forget a customer
And yet everyone fawns over Zelda despite her having to be saved and you doing the heavy lifting. Personally, I'd be more than a little pi$$ed off if I did everything he did and almost no one remembered me or recognized the superhuman accomplishments I did to keep their a$$es alive.
She literally spent 100 years without break as an incorporeal magic force fighting darkness. She was doing overtime while Link was off snowbowling and practicing his shield surf tricks. In spite of that, what Zelda is known for is the public service works she's done in the years between games. Girl's been busy. It's disappointing they don't mention the good works Link did less recently, but I think she's earned her moment in the spotlight.
@@smithsmith1956 On that particular count they may not know. Most of the ones that do know acknowledge it. I think the majority of NPCs in Zelda games don't know about prophecy and all that, otherwise they might think twice about sending a legendary hero to fetch the milk.
@@BonaparteBardithion That always cracked me up. You have this basically superhuman hylian and folks are asking him to get bugs or find their missing chicken. It just think it sucks Link doesn't get the same level of recognition Zelda does. Both were essential. One couldn't do their job without the other.
Like literally imagine being the hero of Hyrule the person who saved the entire Kingdom from the Calamity The Prisoner saved Princess Zelda the King's Daughter and being the princess has appointed night and literally nobody knows who you are I think I would cry
The champions descendants remember him for obvious reasons but nobody else seems to aside from I think Hudson I don't remember if he does though. My theory is that in the canon for botw link didn't waste any time. He got the sheikah slate upgraded, got memories, got the sword, freed the beasts and beat up ganon. You could slide building a house and tarrey town into there but it is possible that happened after the calamity as well.
Link did life-changing work for ALMOST EVERYBODY through the side quests, though! And he's been following Zelda around for EIGHT YEARS! They've been living in a small cabin in Hateno for EIGHT YEARS! (Sheikah rubbers never break apparently) It's absolutely HEINOUS that nobody in Hateno remembers him.
I have a theory that rauru's hand kept ganondorf and his past locked away in time somehow which could be why the calamity "gave up" on reviving properly and when it was removed the 2 timelines came together again making an amalgamation of reality
The funny part is this explains why link is often overlooked in a lot of the other games too like twilight princess, he went off to live in an obscure little village and nobody in Hyrule town recognized him grown up
I like to think that the amount of in-game time that passed between botw and totk was the same amount of time it took from botw's release in 2017 to totk's release in 2023. So a little over six years.
It's not like Link has been sitting around for all that time. It's implied that he and Zelda travel around Hyrule, talking to people and doing things, and that they live in Hateno.
