I was just massaging a client and this very topic came up. Told him it's basically due to gravity. Surprised, but not surprised to see this video pop up after I was done with the session. Thank you, Ian. 👍
I have a client that suffers from stuffiness almost immediately in the prone position. I greet her with a warm damp towel from my towel warmer and after wiping her face/nose area, I then supply her with a "Breathe Right" Nasal strip. It seems to help her feel like things are clear and she can breathe easier, she still gets stuffy, but it may take 20-30 minutes to feel that way, as oppose to 5 minutes without the strip.
While I thought it was pressure from the face cradle, I've been putting eucalyptus oil on the sheet under their chest, adjusting the face cradle when I hear them get stuffy, turning them earlier and doing more supine work because I personally hate being on my tummy for too long. Thank you for the explanation!
Great points made, Ian. My massage therapist had something like a long pillowcase hanging from the face cradle during the pandemic so we can be comfortable and safe while not having the mask directly on our faces. We had to drop our masks in this "pillowcase". She had a cotton ball with eucalyptus and I loved the aromatherapy.
I have a client who gets congested, always, within minutes of laying prone. LOL, I was hoping for some sort of 'massage magic trick' within this video! ;-) . But, what I think I'll try tomorrow when she arrives, is side-lying postions rather than prone, and then end with supine. I'll get her feedback, and we'll see!! Thanks for all of your awesome videos!
Thank you for yet another helpful video. I’ve been a massage therapist for 10 years and I appreciate your knowledge and the way you illustrate techniques. Always looking to learn and understand more. I wish I lived closer. I would love to study with you. ✌️
Gratitude for this video, I was wondering why & now I know & can share this with my clients. I’ve never had this happen with my clients that I work with during my mobile sessions in their homes but at the spa I work in it is an ongoing issue.
As someone who suffers from this condition as soon as I go prone on the table, it's especially helpful to know. Thank you for your insights and for sharing your knowledge. I've learned much from you!
I spend a few minutes and incorporate some lymphatic drainage on the face/head and neck areas for clients who have a lot of sinus congestion once prone, it helps tremendously and I also limit the time if possible that they are prone.
I absolutely love and appreciate your videos Ian. Thank you for all the effort you put into them. There is a loop between the face cradle and the arm shelf underneath that I slip in a tissue and add peppermint to the ends of them. My clients love it....also positioning the face cradle each time for the individual client helps and it's surprisingly higher then I thought it would be. Keep on doin' whatcha doin'. BTW....I watch the ads to help youtube pay you. I hope to become a patron soon.
@@OneBoundMusic No doubt! If there's something on the floor below me, I will 100% step on it, trip over it, or kick it over. I just do a drop of Breathe on either side of the face cradle or on the sheet next to them, and that can help too.
Great video, always challenging us to be more rigorous! There a supine S.I. technique I love; when working on the sternal pec attachments with one hand, you cradle underneath around the lamina groove and pull distally underneath while working the sternal pec fascia superiorally . An amazing move to start your chest work and open up the frontal plane. Also cool use of the word "exfiltrate"
I don't shy away from treating clients in prone but I never have them facing down. I do work in lateral position on the cervical region and when I put them in prone their necks are already loose so I keep them with their heads turned first to one side then the other. Then actually, almost always doubles as a great prolonged cervical stretch.
Ian how did I miss this great video! Great explanation & I just learned something. I do have a deviated septum thus the reason I can’t lay prone for too long! Thank you 😊
I have been following you for several years and I’m always impressed with your knowledge and skills. Do you currently have a practice taking new clients or can otherwise be booked for a session? Thanks!
I'm in the process of getting my office up and running as I teach classes, but that should be done soon. If you're ever in the Florida panhandle, look me up!
@@MassageSloth any idea when that’ll happen? For some reason I thought you were in Alabama. I’m extremely interested in seeing you; your techniques and tutorials are by far the best of the best!
@@courtneycallen I expect it in the next month or so! You can find my (currently defunct) business page by searching Ian Harvey, Massage Therapist on Facebook. That's where I'll be making the relevant announcements. Thanks!
@@MassageSloth is there a way to get in direct contact with you to discuss appointments and possibly book a set of appointments? I do follow you on Facebook but I try to avoid getting on there very often because part of my 2021 goals was to reduce time on my phone and I found out that slashing Facebook and Instagram time, decreased my phone time substantially. So if you have another way for me to contact you, that would be great! But, if you only have Facebook; I’ll deal with getting on to get in touch with you.
It would be nice if electric tables could be positioned to a mild reverse trendelenburg angle. Obviously, portable tables can. I wonder if MTs use this. I will definitely have clients spend more time in supine from now on.
Can I ask if you have many knots on your back muscle, how should the therapist help you with the knots? She should massage using thumb movement or use elbow to press it down? I feel even much more pain that feel like bruises pain after I visit this massage spa.
Rather than thinking "what would smash these knots out of existence," think, "why is my back so irritated?" It could be tight pec muscles up front, too much sitting, too little variety in your movements. Some yoga or physical therapy could help to restore balance and give your back a new sense of ease, and as for massage: Ask your massage therapist to loosen you up all over rather than just focusing on your back. Open up the chest, loosen up the legs, soften up the shoulders. All of these will send a signal to your back that it doesn't need to stay tight. Good luck!
This is great! Also, wondering about working with clients who present with a chronic runny nose. Do you have a video about that or would you treat with the same modifications described here?
Sometimes, it can be a very comfortable position (and I think these clients are trying to maximize their back work as well). Some clients either don't find the congestion to be a deal breaker, or they don't get it too badly. I find that I'm ready to leap off the table by 45 minutes of prone work... being congested drives me bonkers.
Thanks for your explanation. :) I have been doing thai massage and clients spend more time on supine position. But I always finished the session with face massage, maybe this can be the cause for my clients feel the same with their noses...
Thanks a lot for this explication, it gives me more confidente, this happend when i'm doing the deep tissu massage and what funny about this is, with my expérience telling everyone, if they got a feeling for a fart during the massage is to let it go and when it comes for the second time😂 they can't believe it. so after the massage or the next day, they can't stop farting 😆 and the other on is from the upperbody is the burp, all the way during the job and finaly when they getup the next day, feeling like a bird flying from his bed🤭🤭 so thanks alot for this clip🤩🤞👍
What about as a therapist, getting a runny nose when you are working on clients? I wonder if it's from body mechanics, but with certain clients my nose is running really bad, and while working on other clients it doesn't happen. Is it an immune response? I have to take a benadryl before my first client of the day.
You might be onto something with body mechanics or allergies, but I'm also curious whether it's something entirely independent of the session. You might try a long-acting antihistamine (like over the counter Claritin or Allegra, for instance) to see if it's something that responds to a generalized treatment like that, which might indicate seasonal allergies rather than a specific irritant. If not, and if you still notice a runny nose with certain clients, it might be a sensitivity to something they're wearing (e.g. cologne, laundry product) that you could ask them to refrain from, or that you could get specific treatment for from your physician. If it seems random rather than associated with certain clients, then the idea that it has to do with your posture is something to keep in mind. If all else comes up empty and you find that neck protraction or flexion seems to correlate with a runny nose, then that's something that you can change gradually and mindfully. Spending 30 minutes of your session with your head angled down at the floor could conceivably be enough to get that inflammatory feedback loop started.
I wanted to know what muscle or facia would a facia release therapist would work on that would create a popping sound while legs were bent and while squeezing the legs together while pressure was being applied by pushing against the squeeze of the legs. I'm not sure if I described that right. Was looking for a video that involves this technique for what I described. The therapist placed one hand at the base of the tailbone and stretches with the other hand right above the pubic bone and then has the client squeeze the legs together while offering resistance and then there's a Pop. Was that better.
This is a technique I've heard used by people trained in Craniosacral Therapy (CST), though I imagine it's made its way into other modalities as well. I've never personally experienced it or used it, but I hope this puts you on the right track!
Even than i can't believe it myself in the beginning. When it does so, i start to fart also during the work seems to feel like helping them to get rid of them pains .my question is. Am i really connected with the personne ☺🤭? Is there an explication?🙏 thanks alot👍👍
Hi Sari, you can click on "videos" at the top and scroll through everything I've posted. I've got 4 patron-exclusive videos up right now, and I plan to expand that starting next month.
It is too bad they don't have an electric table that raises up or one of those that you can sit it in. I stopped going to see a massage therapist because I can't breath through my nose. I feels like my nose is literally pinched off and then I would get pain around my cheek bones.
There's actually a bunch of options here: Chair massage is indeed a real thing, and some massage therapists will have a massage chair in their office. It still involves having your face in a cradle, but you're upright so your sinuses will be much more comfortable. You could start the session in the chair for your back massage, then transition to the table for the rest. There's also a position called side-lying, which I demo here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JEVpPsZmL7c.html That should feel just fine for your face, and it's a comfy and pleasant way to receive work. If a massage therapist offers prenatal massage, chances are they're well-versed in this style. Finally, there are things to experiment with like having a pillow lengthwise under your torso with your head partially off of it, allowing you to easily turn your head from side to side rather than being straight down. Lots of options. I'd recommend shooting an email to a few more experienced massage therapists and see if someone can make accommodations for your inability to be completely face down. For a lot of MTs, it wouldn't be a big deal at all.
