Why Don't English Clubs Dominate In Europe? 

Look at some of the players who have recently played in the Championship: Tomori, Mount, Abraham, Grealish Gyokeres, Scott to name a few. I think that statement is nonsense.

DIogo Jota also started in championship for his English clubs career, so yeah i don't agree either.@@Adam-uu9tw

No I don't think attitudes to Europa league have changed much

Premier league is popular because, aside from the massive marketing drive and it's language being English, it pulls in American and Asian spectators/fans way more than the other leagues. This is due to it's ability to grab a channel-flicker's attention who would usually change channel after 5 minutes of watching Spanish or Mexican players lump the ball from side to side jogging about. The pace of the PL games and the excitement it generates is a big reason so many watch it above other leagues

@@Adam-uu9twmount abraham and grealish are all flops

To be honest, Real Madrid spends more than PSG

This PSG hatred is so much forced. PSG only has the 4th highest team value and that is with Mbappé that they will lose. This coment is posted on a video about english club who receive stupid amount of TV money every year, now even a small premier league club with no history is richer than most historical clubs in Italy, France, Germany or Spain. Big clubs in these country (not called Bayern, Madrid, Milan or Paris) lose their best players to PL clubs, can't buy good prospect because PL always has the highest bid, and even struggle to keep their best player against championships team now, the situation is out of hands, this is fucking ridicoulous, but the problem is PSG right ?

@@goat9295 i said over the last 10 years not this season and they are the club which ba far spent the most money in that periody to this day they paid the most expencive transfer in history

Psg only spend alot for Neymar & Mbappe but that was 7 years ago, messi, ramos, Skriniar, Wijnaldum, Navas etc they all come for free. What about Arsenal & Tottenham who spend alot & never where close to won it ? when a french club is doing the same as the english you be mad@@NeroPiroman

@@boogy1033 i never said that english clubs dont Spend a lot of money or that they arent rich, you are pushing that narative in the response to my Comment which had nothing to do with them, i gave an example related to video that a lot of money in football doesnt equal european success all the time

It's excellent

“Isn’t even Klose”. Come on guys, quote correctly

That’s actually a good one though. The Adu and Watmore puns are genuinely awful dad jokes 😂

​@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986Isn't that as bad as the others?

"Shawly, it was put to Mee" at 3:22 is even worse

haven't looked at it but my mind says it was also a bunch of different teams aswell right? not like the same 4 clubs or something reaching those finals

Thats why Abramowitsch tried to buy Lazio before he went for Chelsea.

@@frodomax277 yep, Parma, Roma, Lazio, Sampdoria, Inter, Juventus, AC Milan, Fiorentina.

Answer: Rampant cheating and match fixing - everyone knows the Italians were major cheaters back then

I mean wasnt that just the time where Italy was the big spender of Europe instead of England or Spain? Like Maradona transfer, remember quite some big germans (mostly concentrating on them since im german) going to italy like Matthäus, Rummenigge, Klinsmann, Völler and more. Like the video would be 10 seconds long "they had the most money", maybe 2 minutes if you want to also show the reason why they had the most money

Came here to say that. Well done.

Same with Milan in 02-03 (3rd) and 06-07 (4th)

While its not the CL, Eintracht Frankfurt won the Europa League while finishing 11th in the Bundesliga, Sevilla last year had a similar campaign in the league.

I've always maintained and still maintain that a league trophy is a better indicator of how good a team is than a knockout competition. Couple things go your way you're a winner couple things don't you're second best. You need a lot more consistency in a 30+ league season

@@MarvoloRiddle not the point of the post i guess but agree - then we are agreeing with Alfie together

Oo good one. Dinamo Zagreb have had financial controversies, dodgy deals leading to Luka Modrić in court, but have a pretty well oiled winning machine otherwise. The thing is being badly run will always have its impact in the long term, so badly run clubs doing well now may inevitably be doing far less well in the long term

Inter Milan? Not sure about the specifics, but I remember they were on the brink of bankruptcy at the start of this season despite reaching the UCL final a few months ago.

@dudescrawny5859 I thought about them too (I am an Inter fan myself), but despite financial instability and not so great owners, club itself is quite well run as Don Marotta and Ausilio are doing absolutely fabulous job. The current success would be impossible without them

Manchester City

Easy to do it with corruption and bribery. The same team that was handed the first 5 ucl by a spanish dictator.

It's because the UCL itself is a dumb competition, this year champion should play like a world cup tournament after season end. Why play next season? Contract expired, injuries, momentum, some managers fired etc Why not this year champion play at 5 years later tournament 😂😂

​@@mikemike6182 what the actual F did u just write are u okay bro

Why is there not more outrage from English fans about being extorted? All I hear is simping for their billionaire owners who are extorting them

Because Premier League are happy with it as long as their owner buys them nice things.

How are they then the richest? 😂

@@akunwanneprosper7016 you didn’t know that the PL club owners are the richest in the world?

​@@akunwanneprosper7016did you forget who owns man city? Lol

Link to the retelling of ECW?

​@@Jonathan-ug9yu here you go - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q0vmLUV6aI4.htmlsi=PeQIuQyebV8OIfxk It's a big boy but reveals a ton of information I never knew. That channel also has a lot of shorter quality pro wrestling content if that's too long. I've slowly been getting through that video on lunch breaks where there's no Alfie video to watch

I'm interested in the ECW video too

@@soumyadeepbanerjee964 commented above

Made by cultaholic?

This EPL is probably more deep that any pre 2000s league

Shouldn't make too much difference. EPL best sides in early to mid 2000s (Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle, Leeds) were as good as anyone in Europe yet still were not very dominant and were playing weaker sides in the EPL back then. The lower ranked sides have improved, but the best sides I'd argue have only very marginally got better.

Coaching May have been an issue in the past but surely you’re not suggesting that still.

6 different English clubs have won the European Cup/Champions League. More than any other country. That's not counting the 5/6 year ban. Most European leagues were broke when Serie A was dominating. That's why the EPL was formed to compete with Serie A financially. And it's surpassed Serie A for 20+ years.

It is harder, la liga is shit being dominated by Madrid and Barcelona who begin resting their players for Europe in februray because it's a crap league.

incorrect about real madrid, actually only 5 went to madrid since 2000

@@Kxngaaron That’s incorrect. The last 24 UCL campaigns includes the ‘99-‘00 season or it would only be 23. They won in 2000, 2002, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2022. In this 24 campaign period you have RM on 7, Barca on 4, and Bayern on 3. 14 in total.

Helps when you don’t have much competition in the domestic league.

I would also argue that inter in 2010 who won like 4 serie As in a row weren’t exactly big underdogs either

@@paulorocky Real Madrid won 3 CL's in 6 years back when LaLiga was extremely competitive.

Effizienz 😎😎

And better on the pitch then all of them

Also Paul Scholes, twice. If I’m not mistaken he won the prem in his two seasons before retirement

Or dirk kuyt with feyenoord 😎

Or Zinedine Zidane and almost winning the World Cup

@@JudgeDredd-zc2yk almost

​@@JudgeDredd-zc2yk getting a red card and potentially losing your country the world cup? that's not great

bit if the best player are only affordable for 4-5x clubs all over Europe? You do not want to see how money works in Football, you rather post something unbelieveable stupid on the internet for the whole world to see :D :D :D

@@DIN_A8 Being able to afford one of the best players doesn't mean that a club actually can sign one of those players. Money is one part of it but it is not everything. Otherwise everyone would want to go to Saudi Arabia. But not everyone goes there so there are obviously other things at play as well. And make no mistake, players still get a shitload of money at clubs outside of SA.

" I have never seen a bag full of money score a goal " ( Johan Crujff )

Money is everything… you guys need to stop being gaslit. Of every European club had the same resources and everyone the same wages, it would look much different. Why would anyone move to Manchester if not for money, if they could live at the ocean, in historic Rome or the most liveable city in the world Vienna? lol

@@DIN_A8 Money plays a huge role but not the only one. Most players still want to be in a competitive league, have the possibility to win important trophies, play for their national teams and if possible live in a nice environment. Otherwise everyone would want to go to Saudi Arabia. But that's not the case.

Meanwhile in 2023, Russia gets 4.333 coefficient points every season while not even participating 😕

It's not quite that simple, because UEFA coefficient points are cumulated over a 5-year period, not lifetime. So by 1996, any points the PL lost by not taking part in European competitions over 1985-91 were wiped out.

@@pritapp788 True, but they would have accumulated fewer points over the five seasons from 1991-1996 by virtue of having fewer entries

Well the Champions League also expanded in the late 90s and then again in the early 2000s. It was much smaller when it first changed to that name. So originally if you won your league you qualified. Manchester United actually hit the ground running in Europe winning the cup winners cup against Cruyff's Barcalona (1991). Barca would win the champions league the next year. United finished 5th in Division 1 that season (Arsenal dominated Division 1 that year losing 1 game and conceeding 18 goals, surprisingly shipping 6 at home in the league cup to Man United both playing strong sides). Arsenal would win the cup winners cup competition in 1994 (having done a domestic cup double in 1993) and Chelsea in 1998. So of a possible 24 European competitions after readmission (not counting the super cup) English teams won 4 trophies in the 90s. The UEFA cup being the worst performing competition for English teams. We also have to remember that until the late 90s there were foreigner restrictions in European competition that did not apply to English domestic league football, although they did have such rules in other leagues. So Rep Irish, Nor Irish, Welsh and Scots players were considered foreign for English clubs. Currently the rule is that if you were at club for 3 years when under a certain age you are home grown. So for example Ryan Giggs and Roy Keane were foreign, but with current rules Giggs would be home grown at club and Keane would be home grown at England, for being at Nottingham Forest for the required formative years.

@@F1Krazyisnt the average per team taken?

+ RM wasn't the juggernaut it is right now back in that time. It was living off the past glories of the 50s' and midtable Serie A clubs like Brescia could poach their best players. AC Milan was the RM of that time period.

@@johnstephenren561 AC Milan was at it's glorious best in late 80th and early 90th. By 2000 serie A as a whole was a dominant league, full of stars in even midtable teams, but not AC Milan in particular. Actually, AC Milan did quite a rebuild with Ancelotti in early 2000s, before that at least 4 italian teams were better than them in late 90th. Juventus was probably the best, as they made 3 UCL finals in a row.

Excuses.

That applies to every single league lmao

I dont think there's anything like luck

West Ham dominated that competition

zidane’s real madrid won ucl 3 times in a row, luck hmm 🤔

Great analogy!

Yeah pretty much

Post-Abromovich too!

I'm English and loving Leverkusen in the Bundesliga and I like that you watch the primera liga, i tell ya the Portuguese league is underrated, you have 4 top clubs in the league and 3 of them are challenging for the title every season and they have along with France the best youths in Europe playing in their league

You cannot like the rotten corrupt la liga for sure. If there is anything worse than the premier league it's clubs like Madrid and Barcelona run by criminals like Perez.

@@deanVodkahouse I am currently living in Portugal. If you see the population of the country, the amount of talent they produce is remarkable. Also talents get play time. On the other hand you have the PL with Man City that broke fair play rules for over 100, without any repercussions.

Despite bayern winning for 11 years, the bundesliga always had more entertaining football then the pl

Yes, absolutely. And remember at the time there was only ONE club allowed per league, 2 were only allowed if an Italian club managed to win the CL as well, and that too only from 1996-97. Imagine Serie A in its pomp with 3-4 representatives in the CL, most likely Juve/Inter/AC every season.

EPl teams have been in every final since 2018 apart from 2020, and 2 EPL finals. It should have been 3 EPL finals since 2019 but for Rodygo.

The moment I saw the title of this video I was like what are you talking about? In the last 20 years there has been a PL team in 12 finals, with Spain coming second with 9 and they have the mighty Real Madrid and Barca. @@AlexOjideagu2

​@@kitman4070Yes and no Spanish team apart from Real in the final in 8 years. 6 different English clubs have won it. Only 2 Spanish.

So you call yourself a Legend ?

I thought I was experiencing deja vu.

Damn, I'm not a legend. 😢

By definition, anyone that reads this comment is also a legend because they'll know after the fact 😂

true legends would have seen the video yesterday... which aren't me sadly

Correct. Also period of 2005-2012 had at least one English finalist (8 EPL teams out of 8 finals, 3 winners). Only the best ever Barca team prevented 2-3 other wins.

@@A.US.ter1 Being second to another team is NOT "dominating". And if it is the same team over and over again you are dominated by them.

Jajaja bro what happend the 5 previous years? 5 consecutive wins from Spanish clubs, also in 2022 and maybe this year

You jealous your league is dead?

Only durinf Leicester years was it crap. 2010 it was not crap

in 2015 they had no teams in the QFs of either UCL or UEL! Crazy underachieving

@@OldSchoolBoxing1 Spanish league isn't dead, Girona were top of the table for half the season.

2011, Man U beaten in CL final by best ever Barca team; 2012, Chelsea won the CL. Only 2013-2017 were bad really. Without the European ban English domination would have extended into the late 80’s and we’d prob have most wins in the main European competition.

Exactly. I'm definitely not supporting a rival PL team when they are competing in Europe

@thomasjohnson.... City must be really pissing you off pal.... Keep crying! 😭....... 😂😂😂

@@englanduk6131 I’m not that pissed off - at least I’m not boring enough to make babyish comments on the internet like you. Also City have only won it once, unlike Real Madrid who win it most years

@@thomasjohnson2862 "I'm more than happy to see most English clubs like man city or utd fail in Europe"... And you don't think you say babyish comments on the Internet?...😂😂😂

@@englanduk6131 Clearly I don’t. Go and bore someone else, get a life

It's already on his channel

@@muneebahmad4378 you are right, how could I forget that, thank you! But it’s just a random seven, but I guess he still has made it so

Oh god, don’t remind me of the finale dahoam. I completely forgot about it after winning wembley in a german finals next year

Exactly you actually have to win your lead to get in it and not just be fourth best and it was a straight knockout competition no group stages way more exciting and unpredictable

So liverpool have won the league once in 34 years and you say they are run well?

@@laoch5658 as a football club? Yes they are. They increased their value by 3 billion dollars in just like 15 years and won almost everything without nearly spending as much as other PL clubs. So yeah they are the exception

Id say, if they got PL money, Real and Bayern would nearly completely dominate.

@@lisaruhm6681 They both got "PL money" already, especially Real Madrid even moreso. "PL money" is only relevant lower down the table because of how evenly it is distributed compared to other European leagues.

@Reinhart Not as much as other clubs tho. Like 95% of clubs are in debt, but that doesn't mean Real's debt is equal to Liverpool's debt

Smart idea probably won’t happen tho unfortunately

​@@ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nhEFL want that PL Club money lol. Never happening.

How will it Generate revenue then? It needs the Premiere league teams to attract views

@@youngholiday2177 Like Hell it does! I'd guess that the real chance of an actual trophy for the clubs in the Championship would certainly generate extra tickets for those clubs. Imagine a Wembley Final in February this year between Blackburn or Ipswich and Middlesbrough {no Not Port Vale, they did get further than Blackburn and Ipswich but only because they played Mansfield in the 4th Round whilst Blackburn lost to Chelsea and Ipswich lost to Fulham]. Imagine next year a final between Cardiff City and Burnley.

What is the point in making a national cup that’s closed to the first division? Furthemore, doing this just reinforces the marketing lie that the PL wants: namely that the PL is wholly separate from the lower divisions. It’s all one pyramid.

Not disagreeing with the point, but also different when you play epl teams all the time and only play other European clubs ever now and then with different style of play. Sports can be similar to fights, literally anything can happen to anyone in one match

Emery?!?!?!

Yet arsenal went through 😅

Minor minor correction: United 1999 became the first club from the top 4 to win the League FA Cup European Cup Treble. Liverpool 1984 won the League League Cup European Cup Treble.

have anyone fro ouside the big 5 done it?

@@pellejohansen Celtic, Ajax, PSV

Lazio is not a good example with all due respect. Failing in Europe is part of Lazio’s DNA. Italian clubs strongly value European trophies.

Pep and Arteta do not coach Spanish flair football, Klopp relies on intensity and spirit, counter to German footballing philosophy of control Nationality has nothing to do with the way you coach.

@@karlcs901 still, my point is that you guys have the best managers in football at the moment, the most money out of all the clubs in Europe (with little exceptions) and say something like this is a cheap excuse, the ban could have affected you 10/15 years ago tactically, but now with all type of coaches in your league, with money to buy almost everyone from anywhere is a cheap excuse to say that premier leagues teams are not so advanced in tactics, you guys should be the teams to beat every season and you’re not with the exception of last year that you guys dominated Europe (but like I said, with all of your resources would have been embarrassing to lose)

⁠@@jorgeromano6506 I Agree. The answers in the video are just hypothetical, they don’t truly answer the question.

​@@karlcs901 Wth are you talking about?? Guardiola & Arteta don't coach Spanish style?? What is it then? English??? 😂😂 Guardiola still plays his possession football he always has, you know the one they said he wouldn't be able to play in the Prem 😂😂😂

​@@jorgeromano6506but again these English clubs compete against the so called exceptions not the rest of the majority. There is no Shame in English clubs having won less trophies than Madrid Barça juve or Bayern. This argument would make sense if a one Girona frequently appeared in there. Also don't underestimate the point of not valuing the Europa league coz even UEFA itself didn't value it until of recent

English teams do use tactics, you're lying.

@@Diogo85 of course they use tactics, bad ones tho lmao

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Easily

Hannover 96 doesn't even dominate its own finances and is being held hostage my a manchild (Martin Kind)

Who the hell would want to live in England when you can get the same or more money and live in Madrid, Barcelona or Paris?

Liverpool have a more storied and successful history than Barca and Bayern, in a more competitive league.

That's because it's easy to stat-pad in those dead leagues. Just look and Kane's numbers in Bayern.

Its the weather in england. Lots of people really dont like it. I've heard it called as "depressing".

Alfie said that the video was shadow banned

It wasn’t being pushed to anyone in recommended

RU-vid trying to cancel me!

@@iglaggmania1800not funny at all -_-

​@HITCSevens i got the recommendation

Same story with Juventus who also won 10 in a row. Man City are starting to dominate in England.

what about “(…)on a journey to [insert place name]. Where we take a look on(…)”

Right? This is rather confusing. The PL is dominating Europe, with only Real Madrid really competing. And this new Real Madrid team is pretty likely to go down as the best eleven in history. So not much shame in that

And in the last 10 finals the spaniards have won 6 times. Of course, 5 of those 6 were from Real Madrid, but it makes me wonder how the english clubs even with all that money can't replicate what Real does.

@@andre_cinelliEnglish clubs spread the wealth where Real take it all for them and Barca

@@andre_cinelliBecause the talent is more evenly spread out in England between 4-5 clubs. It’s like Man City also taking the best two players from Liverpool and best two from Arsenal to make a super squad.

@@A.US.ter1 I don't think that's the case, Real Madrid's best players didn't come from Spanish clubs or were hyper signings (with the exception of Jude), Rodrygo, Vini and Valverde came from South America for a very cheap price. English teams spend a lot of money for players who are often not worth that, like Maguire.

2 data points don’t constitute a trend. This Arsenal team is only in their 2nd European season. Inexperience usually results in early exits for most teams. That’s the only historial trend that would be displayed if Arsenal get eliminated by Porto.

same here

How could you come to the conclusion english clubs suck. Yes epl fans are way too cocky but it is still the best league in the world and im a serie a fan

@@Ninja-gt3zii mean for as long as i have loved football they DID suck like explained in this video. apart from the last few years. and everything else about the premier league SUCKS because of obvious reasons

they definitely suck in comparison to the money they spend

There have been 2 all EPL finals since 2019, and it should have been 3. MAn City totally dominated Real Madrid in 2022.

@@Ninja-gt3ziLa Liga is better than the EPL. Even though they have less money, they play better tactically and the players have better technique. EPL has great athletes running aimlessly like chickens with their heads cut off.

This is why 7 premier league teams won the champions league

@@rehmanakram7291 And Liverpool won a crapload of them. Absolutely stacked.

This is flat out untrue, the most tactically impressive and best managers are premier league managers and have been for some time now, Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Klopp, Mikel Arteta, Ange Postecoglu are arguable the 4 best managers on the planet and all manage in the premier league, along with other great managers. Yes the Bundesliga is great too and have good managers, same with other leagues of course, but the prem is so far and away the best league, the best teams on the planet over the past 6 or so years have been two premier league teams, Liverpool and City. Other leagues have good managers too for sure, Julian Nagelsmann, Sebastian Hoeness, Michel, Ancelotti, Tuchel, Inzaghi, Amorim, but the premier league is where the best players are, the best managers, the best overall teams. The technical ability and tactical setup is the best in the premier league, the pressing, the intesity, everything.

The competition is stronger throughout the league. Most seasons In spain you have 6 or 7 decent teams most years, In germany yo have 5ish, Italy is a bit stronger with about 8 or 9. Whereas if we look at england there is at least 15 strong teams every season.

@@matt4198 Especially this season in England. About 5 teams are good enough to win the title this year and it's such a crazy competition. basically every team bar Burnley, Sheffield and Palace are a solid team and play fantastic and give everyone a run in every game.

And they're bankrupting themselves trying to keep up with the Premiership. It's over for them, and for European football.

And Bayern and Juventus and Atletico and psg.

Real Madrid are not bankrupt ​@@BongoBaggins

Barcelona in 2024? 😹

​@@BongoBagginsIn what alternate universe is madrid bankrupt?

Juventus would barely crack top 12 currently are you having a laugh?

@pouredupinarat believe that nonsense all you want but juventus sits 2nd currently in a tougher league, all the while going thru a rough patch, it's a matter of time before they dominate serie a again. Juventus would dog walk 95% of PL clubs.

@@cheeze1102 nah serie a is in no way tougher than the prem anymore, juventus would barely beat wolves.

@@packrunnernes 🤣🤣 ite say no more

And la liga has double the prems UCL and Europa in the last decade...your metric shows how bad it is not how good it is

@@DopeBoyFazeyeah second best, absolute dross

@@jaimev9702despite spending triple

@@jaimev9702second best, or first loser

@@DopeBoyFazeThats's mostly due to Madrid being run as a mafia enterprise by Perez and the spanish government.

This is such a ridiculous notion man, the premier league is also the most technically gifted league and tactically gifted. Just because players don't have the space and time to do fantastic dribbles every single play doesn't mean the technical gifts aren't there.

You just copy what other people say

@@TobiasElmendorfNo it isn't, it is well known that other leagues are more technically gifted than the EPL. I watch the EPL week in and week out, it is my favorite league and technical skills are not used nearly enough in it. Lots of pace going up and down the pitch and using physical strength to body defenders. The kind of technical skills that you see in Brazilian players or in a Messi type you don't see in the EPL you have to watch La Liga or Ligue 1 to see those.

@@WalkerIGP I just think that comes down to style of play and pressing though. Just because Neymar isn't dancing through the entire team doesn't mean that technical skill isn't as good as other leagues, it is just shown in different ways, instead of dribbling and having the space to dribble more freely, it is the types of turns and beating a man 1 v 1 in close quarters in the midfield to beat a press.

@@TobiasElmendorfYou mentioned Neymar but Neymar has never played in the EPL. If you want players in the EPL that actually try to use technical skills, Doku and Foden at Man City are two good examples. They actually try to use the dribbles, turns etc in their play. They are in the minority though. The league as a whole doesn't do this stuff compared to other leagues.

And it Should have been 3 EPL finals in 5 years but for a miracle comeback. That would have ended this debate. City were far superior over both legs. 2019 both finals were all English clubs.