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Why Don't More Smartphones Have This? 

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The ultimate anti-reflective matte display... has a catch
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@yupimrandy
@yupimrandy 5 месяцев назад
Always love when MKBHD goes back to his roots: reviewing smartphone tech.
@chromaticvisuelle
@chromaticvisuelle 5 месяцев назад
It's not enough to call it a review. Just a quick first impression. i had to go to the website to learn many more infos about it.
@modestasen
@modestasen 5 месяцев назад
​@chromaticvisuelle Yes, that's why it's nice seeing MKBHD reviewing smartphone TECH. Technology in smartphoes, not a smarphone it self as a model.
@paradoxxmkml
@paradoxxmkml 5 месяцев назад
Yea something not too apple 4 a change
@LLLLLLEON216
@LLLLLLEON216 5 месяцев назад
It's not like he doesn't want to. The latest smartphone techs are just so boring that there is little to talk about. It’s not like 10 years ago where every company had their own unique, proprietary tech, gimmicky or not.
@Mntrmaheffa
@Mntrmaheffa 5 месяцев назад
"his roots" ... Isn't one of his first review video about fruitloops and softwares? I think he did more smartphone just because the 2010s was dominated by smartphone, but I always thought of him as "consumer tech reviewer"
@MuhammedChand
@MuhammedChand 5 месяцев назад
Honestly the tablet version actually sounds like an amazing replacement for a kindle! Would have liked to see more of that
@Ying-yang6969
@Ying-yang6969 5 месяцев назад
On Kindle you can read it under the summer sunlight, that's the reason people buy shitty Kindle and not other tablets who read on it.
@ASLunar
@ASLunar 5 месяцев назад
Onyx Boox makes e-ink android tablets and e-readers. They're in every way better than Kindles thanks to the Google Playstore.
@cheetoritos
@cheetoritos 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, it seems kind of like the worst of both worlds. It's not as bright and sharp as normal screens, and it isn't reflective like real e paper (in the sense that e paper doesn't give off light, you read it like normal paper with an outside light source). So you wouldn't really be able to ready anything outside, and it is still emitting light, so does cause more strain than a kindle. I think it's kind of gimmicky.
@Dancyspartan
@Dancyspartan 5 месяцев назад
​@@cheetoritosWell that the tablet wouldn't suffice for outdoor use is just speculation on your part. but yeah - at first glance it seems very niche. maybe if you have a kid or like to watch yt vids, but also want the E-ink experience of the paper-style. Anywho, Really niche product that i'm betting will fit that absolute core of a fews 'Venn-diagram-of-Wants' and thats pretty cool
@NaudVanDalen
@NaudVanDalen 18 дней назад
@@cheetoritos You'd have to crank the backlight up to 100% to be able to read outside, draining the battery. Meanwhile a Kindle probably lasts months since the screen only uses energy when it refreshes. It also doesn't use a backlight outside because it reflects sunlight and actually ends up being way brighter than normal screens, which have to compete with sunlight.
@ChiliM4n
@ChiliM4n 5 месяцев назад
I'd like to see how this compares to a regular phone with a matte screen protector. They also reduce reflections and give it a paper-like feeling.
@bretts9373
@bretts9373 5 месяцев назад
Right. This is the first time a review feels like a paid ad...
@Dancyspartan
@Dancyspartan 5 месяцев назад
​@@bretts9373The FIRST time a review feels like a paid ad? C'mon man that's rediciulous.
@Daniel-rw2gy
@Daniel-rw2gy 4 месяца назад
He gave a lot of downsides and literally said not many people will buy it.. how is it like an ad
@Daniel-rw2gy
@Daniel-rw2gy 4 месяца назад
It’s not just matte screen.. he detailed how the tech works
@ChiliM4n
@ChiliM4n 4 месяца назад
@@Daniel-rw2gy That's exactly what I'm saying. It looks like a regular screen with a matte screen protector, but it's not. So I'd like to see a side by side if it actually looks and works very differently or if the "detailed tech" is just more or less some marketing propaganda and it just looks like a regular phone with a 5$ screen protector.
@starkiller7278
@starkiller7278 5 месяцев назад
TCL reminds me of LG. They're doing something new, alot of smartphone manufacturers could learn from this. Yes, it may not be a priority, but it's still important what kind of screen your phone comes with. This TCL 40 is definitely a phone I'd consider getting as I do find myself reading for quite a long time on my phone.
@DoctorEyeHealth
@DoctorEyeHealth 5 месяцев назад
I had the chance to try this out for a month and do a video collab with TCL to talk more about the science behind eye strain and what they built with this screen. I personally did not struggle with the brightness on the screen at all, even when outside. Despite the lower NITS. But so happy to see your review of it! I think the tech is brilliant from an eyestrain perspective and I hope to see some of the tech brought forward into other screens. Did you see the Apple update for screen distance? Makes me happy to see tech companies being conscious of how tech can impact the eyes.
@Cool-Spot
@Cool-Spot 5 месяцев назад
I really hope the tech keeps improving because reducing the eye strain for millions of people would be great
@isaacsawka6524
@isaacsawka6524 5 месяцев назад
Anyone mind keying me in on this apple update?
@der4rdi
@der4rdi 5 месяцев назад
​@@isaacsawka6524on iOS 17, iPhones and iPads equipped with Face ID sensors can use that to tell you when you're too close to the screen.
@Sathwik0
@Sathwik0 5 месяцев назад
​@@isaacsawka6524If you hold your phone too close to your face, it asks you in a blocking popup to move it away up to 12 inches.
@youtubeenjoyer194
@youtubeenjoyer194 5 месяцев назад
@@isaacsawka6524 Settings > Screen Time > Screen Distance
@mamaharumi
@mamaharumi 5 месяцев назад
Beautiful. I absolutely love matte screens, yet matte screen protectors almost always suck.
@zndxt1970
@zndxt1970 5 месяцев назад
U haven't enjoyed a glossy OLED tv then lmao!
@EpicUnicat
@EpicUnicat 5 месяцев назад
Same for my xperia.. haven't found a good matte screen protector yet. Stuck with the fingerprint sun glare
@JogoatEdits
@JogoatEdits 5 месяцев назад
u didnt watch the whole video lol he just uploaded
@mamaharumi
@mamaharumi 5 месяцев назад
​@@zndxt1970you're wrong, and that's a weird conclusion to come to
@abbasahmedlp
@abbasahmedlp 5 месяцев назад
Couldn't agree more
@janchrzciciel
@janchrzciciel 5 месяцев назад
I remember having matte screen protectors as early as my Galaxy S3. This is a great idea!
@almajdxperia
@almajdxperia 4 месяца назад
Props to TCL for bringing innovation to a boring era
@nepalidiy
@nepalidiy Месяц назад
Yeah phone design are boring now peak was 2017
@audoodle9963
@audoodle9963 5 месяцев назад
honestly for $200 this phone is kind of tempting as a secondary option. I've been getting into downloading and having my own music collection and this phone has a headphone jack and expandable storage. I could see this making a great MP3 player.
@sahilsingh0929
@sahilsingh0929 5 месяцев назад
That’s exactly what I was thinking
@borkwoof696
@borkwoof696 5 месяцев назад
I want to have that kind of money where I can think about having a "secondary" phone.
@batmantheboss3260
@batmantheboss3260 5 месяцев назад
@@borkwoof696 200 dollars
@shib5267
@shib5267 5 месяцев назад
why would you care about an e-ink like display on an mp3 player? And if you were buying it for reading, you know what else is 200 dollars? an actual e-ink device
@PhenomRom
@PhenomRom 5 месяцев назад
@@borkwoof696when you get your first job you’ll be there in no time
@macmurfitt
@macmurfitt 5 месяцев назад
I’ve always used matte screen protectors and one downside you forgot to mention is over time they do get considerably smoother. I know it takes a lot to get like that but the amount we touch our phones counts for a lot.
@olivierl2172
@olivierl2172 5 месяцев назад
I don't know whether you can compare a screen protector with the actual screen in terms of durability.
@mackit
@mackit 5 месяцев назад
@@olivierl2172I was thinking that too, this is textured glass not a plastic screen protector
@damienpoyo
@damienpoyo 5 месяцев назад
@@olivierl2172 It's just a layer ontop of the screen, which is exactly what a screen protector does.
@Obvious_Furry
@Obvious_Furry 5 месяцев назад
​@@mackitmatte glass screen protectors do exist, ya know
@MB-jz3uu
@MB-jz3uu 5 месяцев назад
@@mackit most screen protectors nowadays are glass screen protectors so the screen protector would be textured glass as well.
@BloodScientist
@BloodScientist 5 месяцев назад
Have been using matte screen protectors since earlier this year and it's a game changer. I love the feel. Love the minimal reflection.
@doujinflip
@doujinflip 5 месяцев назад
Matte screen protectors are where it's at! I use my gadgets in outdoor and well-lit environments somewhat often, and it's nice not to get suddenly blinded because some random light source reflected perfectly into my face. And yeah there's something satisfying about sliding my fingers across that micro-pebbled texture, as opposed to the sometimes jerky feel of smooth glass. I wish they were more prevalent beyond Apple devices though.
@davisdiercks
@davisdiercks 5 месяцев назад
I agree I doubt I'd want something like that on my phone. BUT, I will say, I am absolutely in love with my paper-feel screen protector on my iPad. I use it mainly for digitally handwritten notes with the Apple pencil, looking at music charts on stage, etc, and that texture is a total game-changer.
@doodskie999
@doodskie999 5 месяцев назад
This is why I always use matte screen protectors. Less reflection, feels good to scroll and rejects fingerprints
@iidentifyMyselfAfemalepotato
@iidentifyMyselfAfemalepotato 5 месяцев назад
Using 'em for 8 years now after a dear friend of mine suggested me those for good gaming. god I thank him to this day as rarely you'll find someone talking about matte protective glasses here in my city.
@unappropadope
@unappropadope 5 месяцев назад
Any particular ones you recommend? I’ve got a lot of concussion patients with extended symptoms who struggle with eye strain but need screens to work/live; I’m curious if any of these could help that during recovery
@uthopia27
@uthopia27 5 месяцев назад
Aren't matte just makes the screen darker so u need to brighten Ur display more ?
@doodskie999
@doodskie999 5 месяцев назад
@@uthopia27 true. But on daylight, it absorbs more reflections which is more important for people like me who work on the field
@corbinpool5649
@corbinpool5649 5 месяцев назад
@@unappropadope i have an IQ Shield on my phone & Steam Deck & i love it
@_iboji
@_iboji 5 месяцев назад
I think you lowkey made the real value proposition of something like this and thats as a tablet! It makes a ton of sense! I'm not usually going to use it outside , the texture would be extremely helpful from a notetaking/writing perspective and for reading books/manga it would be the perfect marrying of the performance of a tablet with the display fidelity of an e-ink reader.
@MelonMusk068
@MelonMusk068 5 месяцев назад
Yes their tablet actually costs the same as the phone, which is kinda nuts.
@dary_666
@dary_666 5 месяцев назад
@@MelonMusk068 most companies handle their prices like that actually
@melissablick779
@melissablick779 5 месяцев назад
I use one of those paper-feel screen protectors on my iPad Pro and it’s lovely. Mostly use the device for reading books/manga. Annotating academic papers with an Apple Pencil knock-off feels amazing as well, although I’m sure my pencil tips are wearing out faster. Sure, videos don’t look nearly as good, but I rarely use it for that.
@RecBuddha
@RecBuddha 5 месяцев назад
I'm wondering how well this would work as a drawing tablet? My daughter is getting quite in to that and would be nice to give her a bigger thing to use than her phone, but not crazy expensive like an iPad. The paper like display makes me think maybe this could be good for drawing on and also for kindle book reading as well. Does the screen affect color accuracy and such though?
@_iboji
@_iboji 5 месяцев назад
@@RecBuddha it definitely would so you probably couldn’t do production art but as a learning sketch book this would actually work very well depending on stylus support. I kinda want an artist to review the larger device for this reason
@happyman6102
@happyman6102 5 месяцев назад
The tiny little tidbit about the pain of producing videos of objects with reflective surfaces being mitigated by this tech was cool! So glad you included that.
@AimanPsikologi
@AimanPsikologi 5 месяцев назад
Just a different perspective from this video, great job and thank you on the quality of the caption writing used in this video. Something new I can see as compared to your previous videos :)
@jm-alan
@jm-alan 5 месяцев назад
I think it's chiefly because most (if not all) anti-glare coatings reduce image sharpness and color accuracy, by design; they literally have to scatter light, and it's difficult if not impossible to scatter incoming light without also scattering some of the outgoing light from the screen. Since every phone screen has been getting better and brighter for years, it would seem like a regression to start putting anti-glare filters on them from the factory, rather than letting the user choose whether they want that.
@walkingguy6409
@walkingguy6409 5 месяцев назад
I think the best way to reduce their main problem is having the anti glare coating as close to the screen as possible
@theramennoodler7950
@theramennoodler7950 5 месяцев назад
Yeah Fr that’s the main problem, I have a matte display on my laptop but doesn’t look that sharp even though it’s qhd, and colors ain’t nothing to special.
@ventilate4267
@ventilate4267 5 месяцев назад
Not to mention that they're hard to clean
@plus8237
@plus8237 5 месяцев назад
lol did you not watch the video ? he spends a good portion saying that.
@danebeee1
@danebeee1 5 месяцев назад
Exactly this
@jasonzuniga2587
@jasonzuniga2587 5 месяцев назад
That's pretty sick. Would love to see a premium phone with this as an option. First thing I do with a phone is find a matte finish screen protector. Helps immensely with reflection when flying a drone.
@Leanzazzy
@Leanzazzy 5 месяцев назад
As he said, there are many drawbacks, chief among them being brightness and sensitivity as well as contrast.
@michellecandis
@michellecandis 5 месяцев назад
doesnt work
@ronalexander2577
@ronalexander2577 5 месяцев назад
when you do a review like this on a budget phone. It really makes me feel your genuine passion for tech and new ideas. keep on keeping on. Thank you.
@85bryanc
@85bryanc 5 месяцев назад
I think this would be a great outside screen option for foldable phones! Practical on the outside media centric on the inside.
@Dirkvnh
@Dirkvnh 5 месяцев назад
I’m rocking a €10,- matte glass screen protector on my iPhone for over a year now and it’s amazing. Like this TCL it has major benefits such as anti glare, truly fingerprint resistant and the smoothest feel when swiping. I was afraid this matte finish would cause a loss of display clarity but luckily that is not an issue. I’m not a fan of TCL in particular but I do love these matte finished displays.
@stevevlahos5469
@stevevlahos5469 5 месяцев назад
Do you have a link for it.
@officialnoonon
@officialnoonon 5 месяцев назад
Is the brand called Casper? Additionally I'd like to know, if this screen protector is available for other phones.
@ryderfromgta
@ryderfromgta 5 месяцев назад
@@stevevlahos5469 I think you can find them just about anywhere. I'm in India using a $200 3 year old Redmi and I can just find the matte screen guards for it in local shops here. It has all the benefits that this comment listed, and the only downside for me is that it sacrifices a little bit of brightness, but it's not anything significant and I never feel the need for that extra brightness anyways, not to mention that I'm using an LCD display too. Overall, I'd say it is very much worth it. The no-fingerprints and smooth touch/swipe feel is really satisfying
@Dirkvnh
@Dirkvnh 5 месяцев назад
@@officialnoonon The brand is Mobigear and they’re available for multiple devices and brands. I’m not familiar with Casper. Is that a good brand?
@robert.mills5
@robert.mills5 5 месяцев назад
This would be a dream to me, I've used matte screen protectors for years now because of my light sensitivity. Wish more manufacturers made this an option
@Jezee213
@Jezee213 5 месяцев назад
Yea a few years ago I ordered a matte screen protector for my iPhone XR and I loved it!
@GAMINGOBRIEN69
@GAMINGOBRIEN69 5 месяцев назад
Get this phone lol
@DrivenKeys
@DrivenKeys 4 месяца назад
An excellent compromise would be the etched glass on the laminated screens of tablet monitors, such as those made by Huion. It's less effective than tradtional anti-glare coatings on monitors, but feels great without nearly as much visual compromises seen here.
@pattrriot
@pattrriot 5 месяцев назад
hi, why other companies don't use these displays is also that this mat will wear out easily after a year of use, for example in games or using touch in one place, and the effect will be visible. imagine on a display that is all matte a few shiny peeled off spots...this is something that won't happen on a glossy display (plus you can use glass or film for protection as you also mentioned)
@bosstowndynamics5488
@bosstowndynamics5488 3 дня назад
Matte finish glass will stand up to wear and tear a lot better than matte finish plastic screen protectors though
@SurenMOF1
@SurenMOF1 5 месяцев назад
I think we can put a matte screen protector to have that same experience on our current devices. I have seen that in person on my friends device but that has a downside as well.
@Kivencito
@Kivencito 5 месяцев назад
I've had it... All mate screen protectors Ive had, add some weird rainbowy effect. It's weird, I guess this doesn't have that.
@SurenMOF1
@SurenMOF1 5 месяцев назад
@@Kivencito From what I have seen on the first look was the display quality gets a bit low with that protector on because of that non sticky pixelated texture. While using Instagram and RU-vid is definitely not a good experience. I would prefer a clear screen protector so that We can experience good quality amoled display these days
@Zeusssss307
@Zeusssss307 5 месяцев назад
I had a matt finish screen guard but it made my display a little blurry
@SurenMOF1
@SurenMOF1 5 месяцев назад
@@Zeusssss307 That texture is like that. That touch swipe feel is better it won't stick.
@Zeusssss307
@Zeusssss307 5 месяцев назад
@@SurenMOF1The touch felt really smooth the main reason i got the screen card was for gaming so i could play without wearing any hand socks as my hands get sweaty but it turned out the display quality was wayy worse than I anticipated
@Jj82op
@Jj82op 5 месяцев назад
The tablet version they have with this would probably be more popular, as you said, very close to an e-ink display but with other benefits from a tradicional tablet. As long as the hardware isn't too low spec.
@Isaac-eh6uu
@Isaac-eh6uu 5 месяцев назад
Yeah a kindle paperwhite but a android table a direct competitor to Kindles for similar price point.
@jkarra2334
@jkarra2334 5 месяцев назад
Watching this video with My 11" TCL nxtpaper matt display tablet...
@DrifterSupremo
@DrifterSupremo 5 месяцев назад
​@@jkarra2334how do you like it? I'm thinking about getting it
@aniruddhapaturkar1884
@aniruddhapaturkar1884 5 месяцев назад
Yes I second that. Tablet version makes a lot of sense for avid readers!
@grissee
@grissee 5 месяцев назад
the batterly life probably suck tho, unless you're buying e-reader just to relieve eye strain, not for the battery life
@pongoni7586
@pongoni7586 5 месяцев назад
I used to put matte screen protectors on my phones. but i hate it cuz it decreases image sharpness dramatically. even if your screen resolution is at its highest, images would still look soft and some details are missing
@nottoday3878
@nottoday3878 5 месяцев назад
Agree, also it helps a lot when gaming
@wrth
@wrth 5 месяцев назад
Also lose contrast. Hate it when trying to watch HDR content.
@adendragon705
@adendragon705 4 месяца назад
The only one I've seen that doesn't hurt sharpness as much is the magglass for iPhone. The android version of the same sucks.
@belphegor_tv
@belphegor_tv 4 месяца назад
They also destroy stylus nibs
@that_dude_rolo
@that_dude_rolo 4 месяца назад
First thing I thought of after seeing that screen was the old Zagg plastic film screen protectors. Ones you had ro use a bit of water to apply. They always had that look after applying them. Always used them back then. I definitely would like to see these kinds of screens on more phones, as you said with OLED displays.
@Rickiye
@Rickiye 5 месяцев назад
I think TCL's main problem was that many people don't know about this type of phone & tablet, but now after your vid I'm sure they'll sell a bit more. I'm guessing they'd considered most of the downsides you mentioned that's why it's priced relatively low at $200 and has a large battery as it would work great as a secondary device esp. for long reading, actually planning to get one or the tablet sometime. What TCL can do is adapt the next versions to the LTPO screens that have higher nits for outdoor reading and variable refresh rate for battery savings. The selfie camera upgrade won't really matter as I don't think people are buying these for social media creation.
@jvm-tv
@jvm-tv 5 месяцев назад
I'm going to buy the tablet for reading. It's awesome
@CosmicExplorerX
@CosmicExplorerX 5 месяцев назад
Why is this comment so long?
@yashsarda2263
@yashsarda2263 5 месяцев назад
You could have just read it instead of replying that@@CosmicExplorerX
@ringgame
@ringgame 5 месяцев назад
@@CosmicExplorerXit’s called elaboration
@jvm-tv
@jvm-tv 5 месяцев назад
@@CosmicExplorerX way over your attention span ha?
@leonorou7020
@leonorou7020 5 месяцев назад
I am actually very interested in this type of screen! I have matt displays everywhere I can. Are there maybe screenprotectors that have this look and feel? Then I could just add it to a regular smartphone
@lazyox
@lazyox 5 месяцев назад
Paperlike screen protectors. but they usualy made for tablets with pens. so maybe getting one for a tablet and cutting it in shape would work
@sedativelimit
@sedativelimit 5 месяцев назад
Well I've been using matte screen protectors, not a good experience tho, especially sometimes the texture can ruin how sharp media content appears on the screen
@roflkopter
@roflkopter 5 месяцев назад
i have a matt screen protector on my phone, it came with it from back market. insane improvement compared to regular screens, everytime i hold a friends phone i have to realize again that reflections even exist lol
@robertbalmer5654
@robertbalmer5654 5 месяцев назад
@leonorou7020 FLOLAB makes the best matte screen protectors that give this paper-like effect to regular smartphones, I’ve only ever tried it on iPhone but I believe they also offer it for android phones as well
@marcellkovacs5452
@marcellkovacs5452 5 месяцев назад
Absolutely, back in my screen protector days I always had matte ones.
@shadow51090
@shadow51090 5 месяцев назад
So Marques could you do a comparison to this phone and a modern flagship with a matte screen protector applied? I understand the goal for TCL is to make a screen that's less intense, but could the same be achieved with a screen protector while retaining the benefits of a mid-tier or flagship phone?
@samnayakawadi
@samnayakawadi 5 месяцев назад
The way of explaining is just awesome ❤
@nmeister67
@nmeister67 5 месяцев назад
Reminds me of the matt screen protectors i used to put on my phones about 8 years ago. Although perhapps not exactly the same, the results were very simmilar to whats being described here.
@noxharsha
@noxharsha 5 месяцев назад
They the same thing
@fystry
@fystry 5 месяцев назад
I actually use a matte screen protector. That thing feels just like the back of any textured Samsung or IPhone glass. I does have a small impact on the sharpness but all in one it feels so much better imo
@chilivelife2581
@chilivelife2581 5 месяцев назад
Sharpness suffers a lot, along with brightness
@robinisathakur
@robinisathakur 5 месяцев назад
“We’re excited to share with you the iPhone 16 pro with nano textured glass…”
@kmb_jr
@kmb_jr 5 месяцев назад
Exactly lmao.... nothing special
@tejslm
@tejslm 5 месяцев назад
Last year, I got a matte screen protector installed which pretty much does the same. But all those cons you mentioned are so evident that within a few days, I went to the shop, had it removed and installed a normal screen protector.
@BahaaBarakat
@BahaaBarakat 5 месяцев назад
They feel great to use but the colors become so washed out
@tejslm
@tejslm 5 месяцев назад
@@BahaaBarakat exactly
@Lucy_595
@Lucy_595 5 месяцев назад
I am still using one for more than a year and it's perfect for me. In fact now the matte finish has almost degraded to become smooth and I might get a fresh one.
@tejslm
@tejslm 5 месяцев назад
@@Lucy_595 I wish i could use that. But my phone is only 450 nits, so with that protector it gets pretty dull outdoors.
@stevenswall
@stevenswall 5 месяцев назад
They don't need more layers... And it doesn't have to be blurry. Etch the layer of glass already there down to 1/10th of a pixel "resolution." This is just a low end phone. All screens should be either this or transflective LCDs on pro phones. Or a screen on the front and back.
@waldolemmer
@waldolemmer 5 месяцев назад
Man, I love it when you get to the point halfway through the video
@akarshpaliwal4182
@akarshpaliwal4182 Месяц назад
this is very much needed in newer smartphone as screen time is increasing so the strain on eyes and this would really helpful. Hope other brands also adopt this.
@Fred-ci8ts
@Fred-ci8ts 5 месяцев назад
This reminds me of the matte protection glass back in the iPhone 4 days. It was pretty much the same as you described this screen but it was a bit pixel-ish.
@zukaro
@zukaro 5 месяцев назад
The first thing I noticed was the lack of glare. Would love to have more phones with an anti-glare coating or whatever (more laptops too; my desktop monitors are the only displays I have that don't have any glare).
@thomgizziz
@thomgizziz 5 месяцев назад
Coatings and textured glass wear down and much faster than you'd think. It is just a better idea to get a matte screen protector because when it wears down you can just replace it.
@ChiliM4n
@ChiliM4n 5 месяцев назад
Just buy a matte screen protector for a couple dollars. They do a good job.
@paul_ko
@paul_ko 4 месяца назад
@@thomgizziz Textured (etched) glass won't wear down, unless your fingers are made of a material harder than glass lol
@spike5499
@spike5499 4 месяца назад
no that ruins the color
@LordZarano
@LordZarano 4 месяца назад
Why don't they have an anti-reflective coating like for glasses (the kind that you wear)? Just a very dim green reflection
@Nardio
@Nardio 3 месяца назад
I bought the "paper" tablet they make thanks to this review and I friggin love it. Thanks for the review.
@ScientificZoom
@ScientificZoom 5 месяцев назад
how he finds features such as mentioned in this video is just amazing
@Mr3picly
@Mr3picly 5 месяцев назад
this was such a gem of a review - we need the big players to adopt this tech in some way
@f.i.b3027
@f.i.b3027 5 месяцев назад
Most people aren't looking for these display types though
@RyanxDunn
@RyanxDunn 5 месяцев назад
​​@@f.i.b3027I guess the option being more accessible would be nice though
@svs2136
@svs2136 5 месяцев назад
Or just slap on a matte screen protector on your phone, it behaves exactly the same as the tcl described in this video - i bet thats pretty much what tcl did too. Personally i hate it
@Paniekzaaiertje
@Paniekzaaiertje 5 месяцев назад
No, those displays suck. It's like looking through foggy glasses.
@gaysex438
@gaysex438 5 месяцев назад
Did you not watch the entire other half of the video of MKBHD explaining the downsides??? Bot
@edburdo
@edburdo 5 месяцев назад
I have one of those "paper like" screen protectors on my iPad. I love it. It cuts some of the reflection/glare, and feels more like writing on paper (which is why I used it). Interesting idea on a phone.
@captRhay
@captRhay 5 месяцев назад
i would usually put in a matte screen protector for some of these features. yes i lost a lot of sharpness but it feels great to the touch
@iamsmashy
@iamsmashy 5 месяцев назад
I use a matte screen protector on my iPad Air as a student because it makes it a lot easier to write on with the Apple Pencil. The display quality does suffer like you said because the light is getting diffused through the protector, but I enjoy writing on it much more, so it’s worth it.
@georgestrat8049
@georgestrat8049 5 месяцев назад
Agreed with most of what you said. Two things I would like to mention: it is a bit more than niche, especially for people who do not do a lot of social media or text while walking and second and most importantly for me: matte display = no fingerprints!! Something I have the feeling you also like in a product
@KrissFliss
@KrissFliss 5 месяцев назад
Also better battery life when the screen is not as brigth!
@Gonzka_
@Gonzka_ 5 месяцев назад
​@@KrissFlissnot really. The LCD is bright but the additional layers just block some of the light so it appears dimmer
@oaax20
@oaax20 5 месяцев назад
Put matte screen protector, it is better than preinstalled
@jaroslavmrazek5752
@jaroslavmrazek5752 5 месяцев назад
@@KrissFliss Its the other way around actually. When you put a matte finish on any display you slightly decrease the percieved brightness thus you need to increase your brightness to have the same level as a glossy one.
@ashc151
@ashc151 5 месяцев назад
I would have loved to see a comparison between this phone's matte display and the matte display option that is available on the XDR Display.
@jesuspuhwillreturn
@jesuspuhwillreturn 5 месяцев назад
TCL is the smartphone manufacturer in Indian subcontinent…. So maybe a mixture of all contract smartphones. A true replicaaaaaaa😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@GameOver-nm2us
@GameOver-nm2us 5 месяцев назад
@@jesuspuhwillreturn are you having a stroke my friend
@clickbaitpro
@clickbaitpro 5 месяцев назад
@@jesuspuhwillreturn wtf?
@drakthorianakatzaphquiel455
@drakthorianakatzaphquiel455 5 месяцев назад
​@@GameOver-nm2usHe is just indian..... Seriously.... Look at the profile pic.
@alexnp41
@alexnp41 5 месяцев назад
Thats why i always use a mate screen-protector! I love the aesthetics and i know the colors are a little bit washed out with a 2nd layer bc of the protector, but i do think its nuts!!
@leearnie
@leearnie 5 месяцев назад
I might buy the tcl nextpaper 11 tablet. Thanks for mentioning that one
@Dariddda
@Dariddda 5 месяцев назад
You can get screenprotectors for any kind of phone that does the same thing... that gives an anti-reflective matte look on your display that also protects the glass from scratches. I have this on my s22u and it works perfectly fine.
@kebby8251
@kebby8251 5 месяцев назад
Which one?
@zorroknowsbetter
@zorroknowsbetter 5 месяцев назад
The Steam Deck OLED has an option for a similar display and it looks gorgeous still. Black levels aren’t as deep due to having to scatter the light, but I’d rather see what I’m playing then readjust because I can’t see because of the glare. You mentioned that having a more premium display may help, and it does for sure. The OLED on the SD solved a lot of the issues that you have with this phone. Honestly any high end phone should have an etched screen option, it’s so clutch when there’s a lot of light near you.
@musclecargarage2875
@musclecargarage2875 5 месяцев назад
Our Pakistani phone “Benjort 13 Turbo Max’’ has it as well
@PinkAgaricus
@PinkAgaricus 5 месяцев назад
I wonder how much more expensive (for independent repair shops, especially those that are in areas with other forms of the Dollar [CAD/AUD/NZD/etc]) those OLED displays would be to replace if or when a user breaks the screen, if other manufacturers started using it. "Glass is glass, and glass breaks" - JerryRigEverything (regardless of the display tech) Since a replacement for a Samsung phone display is $400(CAD)+. I feel like at the first repair most will go back to a standard glary display (because of price), I think it's just cheaper to have devices (especially phones and tablets) like this as backup devices rather than a daily driver, since it (the faux e-ink paper display [normal SuperAMOLED/OLED/LCD display, but frosted and including a hardware based blue light filter]) at this point is somewhat new.
@ericwright8592
@ericwright8592 5 месяцев назад
Hmmm interesting, you think the anti-glare coating on the premium steam deck is worth it? IIRC Dave2D said it hurt image quality too much in his opinion. I wish I could see it in person to decide
@zorroknowsbetter
@zorroknowsbetter 5 месяцев назад
@@ericwright8592 Dave 2D I feel like is heavily exaggerating imo. It looks fine especially in a dark room at night. At night both versions are basically identical. In the light there is a difference in the black levels, but the benefit is you can see your screen a lot more then before. More than worth it.
@clay3544
@clay3544 5 месяцев назад
I really like that flat look. It was the first thing I noticed as you held the phone up.
@farrukhkamal2315
@farrukhkamal2315 5 месяцев назад
This very interesting. I have had pc monitors like this for years, but for some reason having the same on a phone never occurred to me. Now, I WANT this
@joonasmansikka2482
@joonasmansikka2482 5 месяцев назад
6:45 ah Zenfone, a truly awesome flip camera that still holds up to date almost 5 years since its release.
5 месяцев назад
I would really love to see this tech on a flagship. Actually I was looking for this here in PT for the last few days in worten or fnac stores, but they don't have it available. I would buy this, but buy9ing an entry phone with bad photography hardware kills it for me. Even so, this looks like a first effort... and a very good one at it. I loved that transition effect to papper mode... really cool one!
@mindphaser2k8
@mindphaser2k8 5 месяцев назад
Just buy a cheap matte screen protector.
@boam2943
@boam2943 2 месяца назад
They are available right now. I have been looking (from time to time) for it to show up in stores to check it live and take my S-Pen to test and see if it is compatible. Their T-Pen seems to require charging. I am a little concerned about the CPU (which is from 2017) and updates past their announced support of 2025.
@MutinAntoine
@MutinAntoine 5 месяцев назад
Love this idea! So weird we never seen it before 🤔 also I love the warm studio light you used! Looks so sick 🔥
@ABD5667
@ABD5667 5 месяцев назад
There are screen protectors that create a similar effect. Also there used to be phones with similar screens way back with some of the earlier touch screens
@TheSpacemanSal
@TheSpacemanSal 5 месяцев назад
I would absolutely checkout a 9h glass screen protector with this finish though. Have an option to apply it to your device for like $15 or so, and I think it would find a big enough following.
@MrNicePotato
@MrNicePotato 5 месяцев назад
I thought it's already been a thing since a few years ago. Some of my friends still use matt screen protectors today.
@cocopuffz604
@cocopuffz604 5 месяцев назад
I've been looking at this one for a while. I'm tempted by the e-reader / Tablet version. There's also the Onyx Boox Palma which takes this idea and puts a real e-ink display with higher refresh rate...
@bhume7535
@bhume7535 4 месяца назад
For those who were interested in this the TCL 50 Nxtpaper is getting a US releasel. It was just announced.
@tubester358
@tubester358 5 месяцев назад
well, compared to matte (or so-called anti-fingerprint) screen protectors, with a baked in matte display the screen can be calibrated and optimized for that type of screen instead of having to be an additional layer to a display that isn't calibrated for it, it would probably be higher quality/durability (especially if higher end devices try to utilize it), and it might be possibly to have settings to transition between limited levels of matte/textured or smooth through software (like increasing sharpness by distorting the output to counter the effects of the display's texture). I'd love to see more devices try this, especially for tablets
@Jayden-lr2mm
@Jayden-lr2mm 5 месяцев назад
They actually also sell anti reflective screen protectors, might pick those up
@StonedGossard_
@StonedGossard_ 5 месяцев назад
let me know if you find a decent brand
@Jayden-lr2mm
@Jayden-lr2mm 5 месяцев назад
@@StonedGossard_ sure :)
@r.g7261
@r.g7261 5 месяцев назад
I can actually see a great market for this (especially the tablet version) as people would certainly love an e-ink display that has the ability to just turn into a normal Android Tablet whenever they want to. It doesn't have the best specs because it doesn't need the best specs and that's honestly kinda smart. Cuz people who will buy this are basically just expecting a screen that they can read books off of and for that it has more than enough power inside. And lower specs = Lower price obv :) Imo I would probably love to try a product like this in the future myself (when I actually get the opportunity to do so ofc)
@andrewf6625
@andrewf6625 5 месяцев назад
I just discovered that they sell matte screen protectors a few months ago and they are actually really nice. I’d love to see how it would look if it was executed properly.
@talhatariqyuluqatdis
@talhatariqyuluqatdis 5 месяцев назад
That is an amazing display. I hope it comes to other technologies. E-ink is *awesome* for the health.
@murroybeverley
@murroybeverley 5 месяцев назад
Love seeing those subtle smartphone innovations in these peak smartphone era. Would love to see the bigger companies at least give it as an optional upgrade perhaps
@Fluffehmann
@Fluffehmann 5 месяцев назад
I always get a matte finish screen protector for my phone. I'd love to see this catch on!
@sherlockowiec1693
@sherlockowiec1693 4 месяца назад
Holy shit, I need that for my tablet. Reading comics with this would be AWESOME!
@ChristopherLono
@ChristopherLono 5 месяцев назад
I’m really interested in nextpaper, because this tech is a great thing and I wish it was used more often. It would be a great secondary display in a tablet (maybe as a folio cover that you could connect).
@stefanrhys44
@stefanrhys44 5 месяцев назад
This reminds of a time when I used to buy matte screen protectors to cut reflections and for the soft touch feel. Definitely would like to see this get adopted on mainstream flagships
@PrinsessePeach
@PrinsessePeach 5 месяцев назад
I used a screen protector for an iPad Air 3 that had many of these features, it was awesome to use with the Apple Pencil when drawing. There probably is a phone version of that type of screen protector.
@yo.adrian
@yo.adrian 5 месяцев назад
Four of my phones I have in rotation of use have a matte screen protector and i love it. Only my Samsung Galaxy Fold 4 doesn't have one. Even two of my laptops have a matte screen protector. I love it.
@josejohnhalindogo8336
@josejohnhalindogo8336 5 месяцев назад
I've been using this from a cheap hydrogel screen protector I got from KiKuu since my note10+ and now on my s22Ultra. I've been using hydrogel screen protectors, and they get creases when you use an SPen on them. But this one gets zero creases. And super soft and pleasing in the eye
@Allineus
@Allineus 5 месяцев назад
This is gonna bring up the tactile experience for me to a whole new level. Hopefully I can spot one locally if ever those phones get to market here.
@GriffXJ
@GriffXJ 5 месяцев назад
I wonder how this screen will hold up. My car had a matte screen, and from touching and swiping the same areas over and over again, it actually polished these areas and they became shiny. I'm sure this phone will have the same issue after a year of use.
@LarryLopez91
@LarryLopez91 5 месяцев назад
Was the screen in your car made of glass or plastic?
@amaljoe367
@amaljoe367 5 месяцев назад
That's because most old cars have resistive touch screens - the top layer will mostly be plastic instead of glass.
@GriffXJ
@GriffXJ 5 месяцев назад
@@amaljoe367 it was capacitive, didn't work with gloves, but as someone else said it probably had a plastic film over top.
@GriffXJ
@GriffXJ 5 месяцев назад
@@LarryLopez91 now that you mention it, there was probably a plastic film over top of the screen to reduce glare.
@besnikrrustemi
@besnikrrustemi 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Marques, thanks to you and this video, i am sure we will see someone implement this tech on 2024/5 smartphones.
@dbsagacious
@dbsagacious 5 месяцев назад
I've been using matte screen protectors on my phone for years. People always comment how cool it is when they use my phone. Blows my mind that it took this long for someone to put it in a phone standard
@Battery-Powered
@Battery-Powered 5 месяцев назад
I always get matte finished screen protectors, but somehow again gets finger prints. Hopefully this type of display is better than the screen protectors
@zest01
@zest01 5 месяцев назад
Matte finish gets worn out from touches.
@Mr.Marbles
@Mr.Marbles 5 месяцев назад
@@zest01 just scrub it with steel wool lmao
@robertclarkguitar
@robertclarkguitar 5 месяцев назад
​@@Mr.Marblesyeah and bring it back to the nice fine sheen. Lmao ❤
@Battery-Powered
@Battery-Powered 5 месяцев назад
@@Mr.Marbles 😂
@yoppindia
@yoppindia 5 месяцев назад
its easier to change screen protector than actual screen, so stick to screen protector, best of both world.
@Stncedr1ge
@Stncedr1ge 5 месяцев назад
I absolutely love matte screen protectors. Have one on my 13 pro max it does make it look less sharp but I prefer the more flat look it suits iOS so good. Only downside is at night it looks like a flash light at full Brightness and they cost more but rather a matte then normal or stupid privacy that makes your screen 20% darker.
@alrightride
@alrightride Месяц назад
Thank you for making this video!! I think this technology is really gonna take off. I hope you don't stop covering the evolution of this technology.
@whyonearth
@whyonearth 5 месяцев назад
I use a matte scratch guard instead of a tempered glass screen protector on my Pixel and I'm so happy I found one.
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 5 месяцев назад
you can use a matte screen protector and get the same effect and have the option to go back to the glossy display by removing the screen protector because the matte finish diminishes brightness and it also change the color
@onemorechris
@onemorechris 5 месяцев назад
exactly this. if anyone really wanted this beyond a niche, there would be a lot more screen protectors offering a feel very similar to this
@Sembazuru
@Sembazuru 5 месяцев назад
I wonder how well the tablet version of that TCL screen would work for (the super small niche market of) digital sheet music for choruses and other ensemble performers.
@MKL_D
@MKL_D 5 месяцев назад
I would love that
@motionoftheocean7524
@motionoftheocean7524 5 месяцев назад
Not to mention,big azz televisions
@AlexisRiveraGuitarra
@AlexisRiveraGuitarra 5 месяцев назад
You are totally right!
@dev44634
@dev44634 5 месяцев назад
I get the same effect from an ArmorSuit Anti-Glare Matte Film Screen Protector on my Galaxy S23 Ultra. I highly recommend it! -The little bit of glare that still appears on the ArmorSuit Matte Film is the same as the phone in the video. -The issue of brightness on the TCL 40 NXTPAPER, as guessed in the video, is solved by the better screen on the S23 Ultra, as its peak brightness is 1200 or 1750 nits, depending on your display settings. -My S-Pen works with no issues at all too, so I'm a bit confused why that's a surprise to some. Writing on it is really smooth too. I actually prefer the matte over the actual screen or a gloss screen protector. -What will a replacement screen cost on this phone? For comparison, the ArmorSuit Matte that I got came in a 2-pack for $12.74. So, it only costs me $6.37 each time I mess up a screen protector. I get that the phone in the video is only $200, but their "paper display" is pretty much the same experience as getting an ArmorSuit Matte Screen Protector for any other phone. 🤷‍♂
@FJK22
@FJK22 5 месяцев назад
After the frame tv came out, I said I bet screens are going to start playing with texture and material like paper, and glare free. Love it!
@saimantickbhadra
@saimantickbhadra 5 месяцев назад
A matte screen protector can give similar results to the flagships out there with the soft touch feel and cutting out the reflections. I'm rocking one on my OnePlus 7 pro but the brightness and the sharpness of a QHD display is reduced drastically. Will there be a future tech where a matte screen can achieve the similar sharpness of a glass screen, considering it is actually refracting the light that's hitting the screen through the textured layer?
@williampamblanco
@williampamblanco 5 месяцев назад
I would love to try this screen on the tablet! Would probably work great for comics and magazines if the sharpness issue doesn't hinder it too much.
@gantenbeinable
@gantenbeinable 5 месяцев назад
Check aut the Huawei MatePad 11 PaperMatte Edition
@BrianHallmond
@BrianHallmond 5 месяцев назад
Phones with screens like this and E-INK and less social media is my dream phone. I love just using social media on my computer and not being distracted when I'm trying to enjoy my day. There's colour e-ink out now too.
@CMDrive
@CMDrive 5 месяцев назад
Yep, pretty much what I've been doing in recent years with my phones. I just put matte hydrogel screen protector. It's shielding your screen, paper-like touch, and don't strain your eyes.
@depro9
@depro9 5 месяцев назад
🤔 two sided displays on a phone?
@mike_reves
@mike_reves 5 месяцев назад
I would buy one (if I wasnt on Verizon) I read a lot off of my phone and so losing that contrast/sharpness for less eye strain wouldn't bother me one bit. I do love that paper feel screen too! I have a paper feel screen protector on my old Z Flip 3.
@vargsieber
@vargsieber 5 месяцев назад
I've always thought that matte screens should be a thing on phones & tablets, so i think that's pretty cool. Would be great if there would be a more powerful version.
@jasonsayhi7969
@jasonsayhi7969 10 дней назад
Acutally, I bought their tablet, NXTPAPER 11. Like the screen so much!
@vyshnavraj9426
@vyshnavraj9426 5 месяцев назад
This seems extremely similar to what would happen if you put on a "matte screen protector" they cost like 2 pounds. All visual changes he described is exactly what i had when i used one, eventually went to a regular one due to the reduced sharpness Maybe give a quick compare of the 2 ?
@mitchietorres_stan
@mitchietorres_stan 5 месяцев назад
i have one and its the same thing
@HeisenbergFam
@HeisenbergFam 5 месяцев назад
Marques watching Marques on a phone is truly the M&M crossover we all needed
@reklavier
@reklavier 4 месяца назад
I used to use matte screen protector on my previous galaxy s23 plus. It was amazing not to see myself on the screen like a dark mirror under the sun, it rejects fingerprints and the soft touch when scrolling was just great but yeah that layer does something to the resolution and it's noticeable how less sharp details look like. Now I'm using a galaxy s23 ultra and I didn't put a matte screen protector. I miss the anti reflection effect and the soft touch but this screen in full resolution looks so gorgeous that I feel I'd be ki11ing its quality.
@sandysan4191
@sandysan4191 4 месяца назад
Is it comparable to a 1080p screen if you're using it in 1440p mode? I remember the time I used one and it even distorted the color when you look closely so I'm wondering if it's any better now
@reklavier
@reklavier 4 месяца назад
@@sandysan4191 I think a 1080p screen without a matte protector still looks sharper than a 2k screen with matte protector. The matte protector makes light diffuse that's great for sun light but it also applies for its light that comes from its oled panel.
@jaywhite15_AL
@jaywhite15_AL 5 месяцев назад
I have this paper-feel touchpad protector on my Asus Zenbook. It's AMAZING to the touch and doesn't interfere with anything. I used to have another one of these types of protectors on my iPod Touch back when that was a thing and it was similarly AMAZING. The finger feel and glide is unparalled, so much so that I bought 4 more packs of the touchpad protectors so that if they wear out (the are a TPU layer), I can just replace it and move on. I think those should last the life of the notebook.
@RafaRallo
@RafaRallo 5 месяцев назад
I have a matte screen protector on my iPhone 12, and it kinda does the same thing! Of course, there are no software modifications, but the brightness is better than the TCL, the smooth feeling is there and 0 reflections and fingerprints, which is awesome. But it really does impact on visual clarity, contrast and sharpness, so I totally get it why it isn’t for everyone.
@Lucia-io3dn
@Lucia-io3dn 3 месяца назад
Doesn’t it drain the battery?
@RafaRallo
@RafaRallo 3 месяца назад
@@Lucia-io3dn not at all, the only impact is on the sharpness and contrast of the display, as it's a piece of transparent plastic film in front of it. on direct sunlight is kinda hard to see something, but other than that, it's very worth it in my opinion
@anventia
@anventia 5 месяцев назад
What do you think about wear on the matte surface? I use a matte screen protector on my tablet for note-taking, and I've noticed it feels noticeably smoother around the center than by the edge (I'm not sure how much of that is my pen or my hand though). Reflectance seems unaffected by the wear though. I've also seen a good amount of people with matte screen protectors on their iPhone.
@catalin-viorelbriceag1097
@catalin-viorelbriceag1097 5 месяцев назад
If yours is a plastic screen protector, then yes, it’ll wear unevenly. The TCL texture is the actual glass, so most likely more wear resistant.
@payne5868
@payne5868 5 месяцев назад
P
@sali-ali
@sali-ali 5 месяцев назад
I've used matte screen protectors for so long, because they don't hold fingerprint. You get used to it after time, but sadly it looks bad. It's not like a matte monitor, it looks worse :(
@anventia
@anventia 5 месяцев назад
@@catalin-viorelbriceag1097 True! I didn't think of that!
@JustasG
@JustasG 5 месяцев назад
Useful for those who are recording phone's screen from outside 😊 sometimes I am showing my phone screen in my vlogs, I will check do I have many reflections. If yes, then worth having this phone just for vloging
@NoConstra1nt
@NoConstra1nt 5 месяцев назад
There is mat screen protectors that do a similar thing. It is very old tech, back in the 90s computer monitors in offices used to have and extra layer which you can remove and eases the blue light. Apart from being matt they tend to have some kind of a tint that reduces the blue light
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