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Why Drivers are Unimpressed with Monza's Updates - News from F1's Italian GP Paddock 

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@Real28
@Real28 2 месяца назад
The ascari kerbs added technique. The drivers talked at length about the spectacle those kerbs added. Now, its gone.
@y_fam_goeglyd
@y_fam_goeglyd 2 месяца назад
I should be surprised, but I'm not, that they didn't mention the following. The new tarmac is particularly dark. That means that in hot weather, or just direct sunlight (even if, e.g. air temp is not so hot because of a breeze), it's going to heat up far more than last year (edit: assuming the air temps are identical to give a good comparison). Pirelli have suggested that the track temp might hit around 50°c. (Given that statement, you see why I expected a more detailed description of how the changes will affect the cars.) It's going to eat tyres if that's the case, but they've only brought the 3 softest compounds. That suggests that there will need to be more race pitstops than normal. It's also possible that the track temp will keep high air temperatures low down to the ground, which could _poach_ the drivers like kippers in the cockpit! That's always a hotter environment than the outside. There's also no rubber in the track so the practice sessions will be a juggling act. They have limited numbers of tyre sets and will have to keep the majority for qually and the race (a number they don't yet know). Which means they can't waste any during FP although running a lot would improve the rubbering of the track. Also the drivers have to relearn the track, even though the changes appear minimal to us. They are used to it being one way for years - over a decade for quite a few of them. That means they have muscle memory for the older version, and that takes more than a couple of hours of practice to reset! It _could_ be a lot more interesting than people are saying it will be.
@Gamurboi
@Gamurboi 2 месяца назад
on a surface level, it might seem like the tires degrading faster will be better for the grand prix, but since it is thermal degradation and not physical deg, the drivers will not be able to push all the time, and it will be a race of attrition/management. plus this track isnt great for racing, just look how hard it was for cars to overtake each other last year.
@RichardMcLaren
@RichardMcLaren 2 месяца назад
Haha!
@thatonenigeriansformula
@thatonenigeriansformula 2 месяца назад
Don’t forget the fact all the trees are gone and therefore there is no shade which monza is famous for, (the track being lined with trees)
@DjurtiJhokson
@DjurtiJhokson 2 месяца назад
Complaints about not being consulted? Clearly they have forgotten that they are in Italy. This sort of thing is standard.
@toodsf1
@toodsf1 2 месяца назад
Who cares if the drivers were not consulted on the track changes? They do not need to be. Many series race at Monza, should the competitors of all of those be consulted too? The Monza people can change their venue however they want as long as it’s still safe according to the FIA
@darbstre2900
@darbstre2900 2 месяца назад
Agreed. Except for the mf who decided to ruin Spain with that chicane for a decade and a half. He shouldn’t be anywhere near track design
@fallenshallrise
@fallenshallrise 2 месяца назад
Funny to see so many people who are anti-driver when all they are doing is speaking up for tradition. I thought fans were generally in love with old school F1, bring back the V10s and all that. Re-profiling a legendary chicane and removing most of the challenge could be just throwing out all the previous lap records for no good reason. And I get the driver's perspective if the corner ends up being so easy now that they just take it flat. I guess we will find out this weekend. Might be much ado about nothing.
@darbstre2900
@darbstre2900 2 месяца назад
@@fallenshallrise we can agree with the drivers whilst maintaining our opinions that f1 drivers shouldn’t be treated different then any other series that race there
@Tzuau78
@Tzuau78 2 месяца назад
If not the drivers… who?
@AB-gj8re
@AB-gj8re 2 месяца назад
@@fallenshallrise the corner is barely changed at all, its like half a meter wider and they absolutely will not be able to take it flat out hahaha
@bruceditmas3561
@bruceditmas3561 2 месяца назад
Cancel the race.... Ricciardo doesn't like the changes.....
@craigyirush3492
@craigyirush3492 2 месяца назад
If it were an old school track you wouldn’t have these chicanes in the first place!
@servethesongs
@servethesongs 2 месяца назад
depends how old
@thatonenigeriansformula
@thatonenigeriansformula 2 месяца назад
Well obviously, old monza and no real corners other than lesmos 1 and 2, ascari and parabolica
@craigyirush3492
@craigyirush3492 2 месяца назад
@@thatonenigeriansformula and much faster.
@thetruthisoutthere5173
@thetruthisoutthere5173 2 месяца назад
It would be a focking nascar race without chicanes
@craigyirush3492
@craigyirush3492 2 месяца назад
@@thetruthisoutthere5173 yeah, just like all the terrible ‘Nascar’ races they had there in the 50s, and 60s, with Fangio and Moss and Hill and Clark. Wouldn’t want that again. Chicanes to slow cars down are such a great idea! Made racing so much better lol.
@RandomlySet
@RandomlySet 2 месяца назад
The drivers don't need to be consulted. They don't own the track.... What about all the other race series that happen there!? They don't demand to be consulted.
@stormforce7599
@stormforce7599 2 месяца назад
Forget the track as a change is good because no one knows what will happen and we need some unpredictable results.
@thatonenigeriansformula
@thatonenigeriansformula 2 месяца назад
Interesting how so many trees are gone from the track , what’s that about
@b29ak2007
@b29ak2007 2 месяца назад
There is a difference between asking for consultance vs asking for the final say The GPDA should get asked what they need, as should every drivers group that use the circuit + the FIA so that the FIA can go to the track and ask for changes. The bigger question is more if they knew about the changes when they were made. If so, then sure they can shut up cause you already knew it was going to happen
@Karincl7
@Karincl7 2 месяца назад
1 weekend a year nothing more
@b29ak2007
@b29ak2007 2 месяца назад
@@Karincl7 what??
@petrolheadJJ
@petrolheadJJ 2 месяца назад
The track is same for everyone now drive it. The're the best drivers in the world with most resources for car setup, now just get on with it. Not much to write about apparently.
@Jamesfrancosdog
@Jamesfrancosdog 2 месяца назад
Why are you whining so much? Who are you to tell professionals what to do? These drivers risk their lives, they ought to be consulted for course changes. And they’re certainly allowed to voice an opinion. You should appreciate that, give you can’t stop from give your opinion.
@HJDUNSDEN
@HJDUNSDEN 2 месяца назад
Their point is that the track will be too easy now … nothing to do with safety
@petrolheadJJ
@petrolheadJJ 2 месяца назад
@@Jamesfrancosdog I couldn't find whining from my text. Who am I to say? Apparently more qualified than you judging from your comment and apparent understanding of the issue. Enjoy the race.
@Karincl7
@Karincl7 2 месяца назад
​@@Jamesfrancosdog risk their lives? You re in 2024 not 1960
@weallfollowmanutd
@weallfollowmanutd 2 месяца назад
I do have to laugh at the way drivers are complaining about the changes with comments like 'character' and traditional neuances, when they forget the first chicane in 2000 was absolutely vilified back over 20 years ago. The layout was already ruined in 2000. Monza was also way way faster in 1993. Then they reprofiled with medium speed corners in 1994, and has got worse since. The traditional track was long gone. You could argue that Monza is supposed to be super fast, like it was in 1970
@JohnH1
@JohnH1 2 месяца назад
Football players complain about the state of the pitch as do Rugby players, tennis players often talk about the surface of the court, as they have all earned the right to do. But drivers of F1 cars who are highly paid and respected experts in their field are not allowed to say anything? Perhaps certain people should just stick to what they know :)
@zeberto1986
@zeberto1986 2 месяца назад
Of course theyre allowed an opinion but the suggestion is that they should wait until theyve driven the new surface before passing judgement. Football and rugby players warm up on the pitch ahead of games giving an idea of how bad a pitch can be. Similar for tennis players as they can also get an idea from watching others on court. All that said sometimes you can just tell if a surface will be bad from looking at it. One thing is for certain is that it adds an unknown element to the weekend which could make things very interesting.
@naiboz
@naiboz 2 месяца назад
I forgot the drivers owned the circuits
@Tzuau78
@Tzuau78 2 месяца назад
I bet Ferrari were consulted.
@askeladden450
@askeladden450 2 месяца назад
Not really, considering kerbs, their main strengt, have been lessened.
@Tzuau78
@Tzuau78 2 месяца назад
@@askeladden450 I was just mucking around.
@Truckergregg
@Truckergregg 2 месяца назад
Was “what’s his name (LS)”driving the safety car?
@ElementsMMA
@ElementsMMA 2 месяца назад
I think Bottas will drive for Mercedes in 2025
@GryphLane
@GryphLane 2 месяца назад
I bet Red Bull were consulted about the changes
@vidtrax662
@vidtrax662 2 месяца назад
Safety car crashed 🤦🏻 Gonna be tough weekend for drivers. Good and more bad.
@michaelwallace1861
@michaelwallace1861 2 месяца назад
One more thing. Monza lost its "character " when the banked section was removed.
@humberto.celleri
@humberto.celleri 2 месяца назад
@AutosportOfficial , is #FrancoColapinto here to put the character? Have you seen that guy?
@folu12
@folu12 2 месяца назад
The main question is, is HAAS at the track yet? lool
@alexbernadina3082
@alexbernadina3082 2 месяца назад
They paid on Monday and left to Monza. no problem
@Karincl7
@Karincl7 2 месяца назад
Sadly they are
@alexbernadina3082
@alexbernadina3082 2 месяца назад
Zero reason to consult the drivers. Deal with it in the weekend, thats why you have 3 (boring) free practices. Pity this isnt a sprint weekend! hahaha
@thatsjustprime8096
@thatsjustprime8096 2 месяца назад
Yea man bun just no dude🤔🤣🤣
@forcedmedia
@forcedmedia 2 месяца назад
Boring delivery
@bolokefe5300
@bolokefe5300 Месяц назад
F1 doesn’t own the tracks!! The drivers definitely don’t own the tracks!! Monza is for all classes of racing not just f1 !! Get over yourself Netflix fans and stfu
@Jackbyrne77
@Jackbyrne77 2 месяца назад
You mean the FIA have changed something about the sport that is affected its appeal, solely in the name of safety?!?!😱😱 Sorry, but are we really surprised?!?
@Karincl7
@Karincl7 2 месяца назад
Fia did nothing they rent the track they don t own it, it s not Vegas
@jimmac1953
@jimmac1953 2 месяца назад
Man Bun?
@mono-no-aware.Lem.
@mono-no-aware.Lem. 2 месяца назад
Crybaby paddock it seems
@Jamesfrancosdog
@Jamesfrancosdog 2 месяца назад
Says the crybaby leaving a crybaby comment.
@mono-no-aware.Lem.
@mono-no-aware.Lem. 2 месяца назад
@@Jamesfrancosdog do you kiss your sister with that mouth
@wyattmunger5529
@wyattmunger5529 2 месяца назад
@@Jamesfrancosdog Everybody's a crybaby, including you and me.
@MadeOfEarth1
@MadeOfEarth1 2 месяца назад
Chicane 1 changes is not good. Going into the chicane, the car to the right now has no hope of getting a good exit on the outside and catching the slipstream to try a pass into the second chicane. Why didn't they consult with the drivers? It's stupid.
@toodsf1
@toodsf1 2 месяца назад
It will be no difference or maybe slightly easier for the car on the right to do that, as they can take a wider entry into turn 2. Definitely will not be harder as you say
@MadeOfEarth1
@MadeOfEarth1 2 месяца назад
@@toodsf1 I don't think so. You have to go around for longer, therefore having to manage traction longer and can get to full throttle later than the driver inside compared to previous years. I guess we'll see.
@toodsf1
@toodsf1 2 месяца назад
@@MadeOfEarth1 My understanding is that the apexes have not moved at all, so a single car can take EXACTLY the same line as last year. The extra tarmac on the outsides makes the corners look longer + more angled if that makes sense. But yeah, let’s see
@Youppp
@Youppp 2 месяца назад
Blah blah. As driver your paid to drive. So drive
@eoincassin4265
@eoincassin4265 2 месяца назад
You can't call yourself a professional and show up for work dressed like this. One guy looks like he was dragged off the beach after a week in Ibiza and the other is wearing a shirt that doesn't fit him. Also what do the lines at Ascari have to do with the crash of the SC?? WHY the random speculation just for the sake of trying the create a story that you have literally zero information on
@alicekoppenol-pitti6257
@alicekoppenol-pitti6257 2 месяца назад
😂😂..I mean, do you feel relieved? I'm with you on the clothes. This new format of showing the presenters requires a more tasteful presentation.
@Jamesfrancosdog
@Jamesfrancosdog 2 месяца назад
You’re beyond ignorant. This is unbelievably common in the modern workplace. I work in the corporate world, and we wear hoodies, fun button ups, t shirts, and anything but athletic wear really is allowed. Clothes make zero difference in how business operates. Grow up.
@Jamesfrancosdog
@Jamesfrancosdog 2 месяца назад
Also, stop whining, you judgmental small mind.
@thegrandplay1780
@thegrandplay1780 2 месяца назад
Here's why you're wrong; i think F1 can, in fact, just be two guys alone, often mouthing off into a long stick, not appropriately clothed, and it all being filmed, and I kinda really appreciate the right guy's green tee. Now the guy on the left has seemingly just reached unc status but he lowkey got that bich on though fr fr. Lewis makes everyone in the paddock feel like they're in uniform
@TH3Wa1Lster
@TH3Wa1Lster 2 месяца назад
Lol how pathetic that the first thing you mention on an F1 video is how they're dressed. It's not Paris fashion week
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