Why Dumbledore Never Tried To Stop Tom Riddle While He Was In Hogwarts 

Lol magic can’t stop a bullet

@@JonahHorner damn right. The laws of Physics still rule the magic world even if bent

😆😆😆😆😆 The end. Everything was well.

@@JonahHorner Pretty sure if you had enough time to react (which you probably wouldn't but if you did) you could do a protego charm, or even that one harry learns in GoF where it stops an opposing force.

@@JonathanSmith-ge4pi nope. We tested it.

Dumbledore knew that Riddle had opened the chamber of secrets, but he couldn't prove it. He was only the Transfiguration professor at that time, so he wouldn't need to ask Myrtle how she died. The others were idiots who accepted that Hagrid released some great and ugly monster which killed Myrtle. It took a parselmouth and the brain of Hermione to discover that the monster was a Basilisk. But yes, asking Myrtle seems to be the best thing to do.

Someone did , harry lol

When Harry asked Myrtle how she died, Myrtle said she only saw a great big pair of yellow eyes and could not remember anything else.

I don't think it was that easy, Myrtle didn't come straight back to hogwarts after she died. She also didn't see what actually killed her.

@@rezarfar She only saw a pair of big yellow eyes before dying instantly. But yeah, she didn't stay at Hogwarts, she was determined to haunt Olive Hornby (something like that) forever.

Yeah I have to agree with your statement, A perfect example is even with Harry he ignored him for a full year basically fearful that (He Who shall not be named) Would find out information through Harry himself and therefore limited his contact with him, Which in the end almost drove Harry insane, It's hard because it wasn't necessarily the wrong choice because he didn't know if Harry was being used for info, But still he forgot Harry was still just a child really and he could of handled it better I think, If I'm not mistaken Dumbledore himself even said that he made a mistake.

This should be the top comment here!

This comment long as hell

“No”

I love how this comment is edited but still makes no sense xD

@BRADY KIM Reread your words. What exactly does "to ever of all time" mean?

I felt that it was fine until ‘to ever of all time’

@BRADY KIM I know everything there is to know about the books and movies. Read the books over 30 times each (no joke, yes I'm a loser), I just found it funny that this comment was edited but still contained a mistake. It's the grammar Nazi in me. Sorry for my lack of filter.

Riddle was always able to hoodwink everyone (apart from Dumbledore). So Dumbledore would need proof to have him expelled. And he's a student, why would Dumbeldore even fight him? It wouldn't cross his mind.

Nah we probably wouldn't. You should see what we do to the interns down here.

Tom Riddle: “I don’t want to fight you Dumbledore.” Dumbledore: “ I wouldn’t want to fight me either.” 😂

Not a chance, dumbledore will never put any student in danger even those that don't deserve this treatment.

I personally always felt that one of the many reasons Voldemort hated Dumbledore so much was because Dumbledore had never raised a deadly hand against him, and while yes they have dueled before, it was Dumbledore's restraint with Tom that made Voldemort so angered by him. I'm certain that Voldemort was quite insulted by the fact that Dumbledore had never stopped treating Tom as one of his students. Dumbledore's protective nature especially towards his students young and old, would not allow him to ever fatally harm one of them, and this is what caused Voldemort to lose his cool every time he and Dumbledore came face-to-face. No matter how foolish or terrifying or threatening or deadly Tom could ever become, he could never seem to break out of the rebellious students persona to Dumbledore. I imagine this infuriated Voldemort to no end

That one I buy

Yes a fight he lost making young Harry Potter lift all his heave.

@@curiousuniverse7415 Dumbledore stalemated Voldy, but he would have lost if Voldy was at the peak of his power.

You can't deny. Dumbledore's got style!

@@schris3 Dumbledore could win any short duel against Vodemort. But if it was a fight to the death, then Voldemort will win because of his horcruxes

i second that

Well at the time they didn't have a blundering idiot thundering around the top office like a baboon, I'm not sure who they had exactly, but I can tell you they wern't any fudge.

We take that personally.

@@MinistryOfMagic_DoM damn your account was made in 2006

yes, true

Yes I think they could explain it with a movie of the founders, I believe could be awesome too

Tom was a parselmouth and can understand the language of basiliks living in COS...and no doubt he was very good at black arts history and keen to know everything about his ancestor salazar slytherien...he must have got many clues about it....moreover salazar left that chamber to be opened by his hire who was riddle definitely....so there were many things which could help riddle to open the chamber

@@qaiserqureshi4452 exactly - I want to know which clues led him to be the first person to (on purpose) open it

Why has the book or movie “he who must not be named” come out yet? He is among the top 5 most compelling characters in the entire series and everything I know about him comes from RU-vid videos lmao

@@BlackHawk2901 Excellent point.

And surely he does stop him

@@s6s6s6waqas2 uhm...yes, exactly.

Why didn't dumbledore just force the memory out of slughorn? Or use that mind reading powers to get the memory out of slughorn?Just curious as i dont know

@@june_rain_video_game_company Harry actually asked Dumbledore that question. Slughorn was quite an accomplished Occlumens, so he could stop Dumbledore reading his mind. And forcing Slughorn would only increase their problems, as Slughorn would immediately leave Hogwarts of that happened.

@@thelegend1801 ohk. Thanks

Actually that's just in the films. Dumbledore in the books actually said "this is as i expected".

He was simply a coward at that time

Basilisk Tooth

The sword only came to those who deserved it. Tom never deserved it so it isn't possible.

@@turkishundelightful5382 The Basilisk tooth only worked against horcruxes because Harry stabbed the Basilisk in the mouth with the sword of Gryffindor which I guess somehow transmitted it's power into the Basilisk teeth.

@@LucidVision138 you have it the other way around

@@LucidVision138 It's not the actual fangs of the Basilisk that are potent its the venom. When Harry stabinated the snake the sword got Basilisk fluids on it, Tom even makes a remark about how remarkable the venom is to Harry while he's dying from it. The venom is better than the sword, so the sword absorbed it as the sword was from goblin silver which takes in that which is stronger than itself and rejects anything mundane. Voldemort pieces are considered mundane by the way, literal dirt can't get in that sword so non-corporeal Voldemort pieces wouldn't either. So Tom wanting to make that into a horcrux proves like the rest of wizarding kind, he knew jack shit about goblin silver and goblin magic.

Where she implied that? I remember she said she will never reveal how it’s done. So I doubt implied anything regarding how horcruxes are made. BUT I agree with your theory.

She revealed it

Lol

not necessarily. he could've made the Horcrux well after Hagrid was expelled and he got the Special Services award. (speaking of which, i wonder if they ever scrapped that award from him after Harry killed the Basilisk.)

Finally a comment about something i was wondering.. if indeed some graphic thing had to be done to the dead body to be made into a horcrux, seeing that myrtle is a ghost, didn't she bear witness to what was happening to her body? Why didn't she tell dumbledore? Another thing, why didn't Voldemort ghost like self reveal himself to his death eaters like Lucius even when he was attached to quirrel? They could have helped.

You know what I wonder: If anyone at school (like at his time) ever had feelings for him like Bellatrix or something

@@Rachel31509 me too but like, in school i always imagined him as quiet, so im pretty sure given how attractive he was he wouldve had some girls having crushes on him, but he was very quiet and reserved not to mention he treated his "friends" as followers. Someone with his background would have attachment issues so i doubt anyone was close to him in that way.

@@mercuriology45 I totally agree that he would've been quiet about it

@@Rachel31509 He was conceived under a love potion. He literally can’t feel or express love. He literally can’t be psychologically saved.

@@brettlarch8050 I know that's why i'm wondering what he would do in that situation

Yeah, but that was like in the 1940's. Their autopsies probably weren't that good anyways. Poor Myrthle, i also think that she lied (?) there for some time.

Show me how much your my world and the other one was there with yaya

Power in which way, in influence or in magic, because in magic he was certainly capable. Remember in his school days he was said to have done things that nobody his age had ever done. and he also defeated the second greatest dark wizard of all time (1st at the time) grindelwald around the time that tom was in school.

@@g-parkz4561 they mean influence, dipet would have had to sack him and remember that dipet loved Tom and if dumbledore strolled on and hexed him he’d be arrested. Tom wouldn’t have layed evidence of mos deeds around so albus would struggle to show evidence without veritisirum or legitimency

I understand why DD didn’t or wouldn’t stop him when Tom was at school, he was a child after all. You hope maybe he would grow out of it or change to become a better person like hopefully most of us do when we get out of our teens/early 20s and stop being an idiot, plus no evidence for anything truly horrible... But I never understood why dd didn’t face him at all during his reign before he murdered the Potters.

If Dumbledore could take out Grindelwald , he could definitely take out Voldemort Lite.

Albus would have gotten himself into trouble for attacking a student, and later on, there was the prophecy

i also have a winter birthday so im also curious

i think they would wait until ur 11 tho

You would get your letter on your 11th birthday and wait until September to start attending the school

You shouldn't be annoyed. My B-day is 2 days after the start of term ( September 3rd). This September I will be turning 11, but I can't go to Hogwarts because I was born 48 hours late? Sorry Professor Mcgonngal, I am not going to wait 363 days just because I was born 48 hours late. You'd better give me a letter. If you don't I will go to Illvermorny.

It the same case with hermione,she is born on 19 sept 1979 but has to go next year with harry who's birthday is on 31 july 1980

Dumbeldore wasn't old and was way more powerful that Voldemort

@@andrinidrizi8854 Voldemort was the strongest.

@@ciprianghenghea7779 "Dumbledore is the only wizard voldemort afraid of" Written by jk Rowling

​@@ciprianghenghea7779 Dumbledore was the "Only One He Ever Feared" Rowling even gave that name to the chapter in which their duel takes place.

Dumbledore was the greatest wizard to possibly ever exist

He was working on trying to break the blood pact and probably struggling not wanting to fight Gellert for multiple reasons. He didn’t force the issue because he was too distracted with the Global Wizarding War. The fact that he didn’t advocate harder to prove Riddle was behind opening the chamber just adds to the mountain of guilt he already bears. 😭

Dumbledore literally didn't know the trick until the sixth book. Horcruxes were such an obscure thing, for obvious reasons, that until Slughorn spilled the beans no one figured it out. He literally had no clue Tom could ACTUALLY make them, only one person EVER before Tom managed to do so.

He new that Voldemort had mada a horcrux, but only after Voldy came back and Harry told what he saw in cemetery that he start to suspect that Voldy had made more than one (... I had walked more steps than any other in persueing inmortality...) that frese was what sparked his suspicions. So, after that he started looking and eventually found the Resurection Stone... it took him a year to find the first, and he didn't know how many existed until Harry recovered Slughorn's memory...

He didn’t know about the horcruxes, he suspected, and suspected that was only one horcrux, only after slughorn real memory was revealed dumblerore realize what is really really happening.

My two cents = Dumbledore didn't personally face Riddle during the first wizarding war because he was, at heart, a pacifist who was reluctant to fight unless there was absolutely no other choice. Remember that it took him 5 years until he finally personally involved himself in the Grindlewald war. That's 5 years of countless people pressuring him to fight Grindelwald personally that Dumbledore resisted. While he did have personal reasons for avoiding the fight (i.e. see Deathly Hallows), I believe his personal distaste for fighting also played a huge role in why he held off his involvement for so long. His distaste for fighting has been displayed numerous times throughout the books, most notably in his famous duel with Voldemort at the end of the Order of the Phoneix. Here, he only engaged Voldemort to save Harry and never aimed to truly hurt or kill Riddle. While some may argue that he didn't try to kill Voldemort at that time because he knew about the Horcruxes and therefore killing Riddle would be a waste of time, I disagree. While killing him permanently was impossible at that time, a fact Dumbledore undoubtedly knew at that time, that does not mean that killing him was useless. Indeed, Riddle was 'killed' before, when his curse backfired attempting to destroy Harry when he was a baby. This event left Riddle/Voldemort in a state of existence where he was 'weaker than the meanest ghost'(Goblet of Fire), a state he would not escape until 13 years later. While not a permanent solution, killing him in the duel would effectively neutralize him as a threat until he could rebuild his body, something that is difficult to do without aid, giving Dumbledore and co. time to hunt down and destroy the Horcruxes relatively unimpeded. I believe the fact that Dumbledore refused to even attempt to kill Riddle in this battle shows that he was unwilling to compromise his moral opposition to killing even when he knew it was perhaps the only solution left. In Harry's sixth year, Dumbledore was aware of Malfoy's plot to assassinate him and all the attempts he'd made through Snape's report. Despite being aware of Malfoy's intent, Dumbledore showed only sympathy and understanding to the boy when they finally faced off against each other at the end. While people might point out that Dumbledore had been disarmed at the beginning of the battle while he was protecting Harry from detection, I would like to point out that Dumbledore was proficient at WANDLESS magic, and, despite being severely weakened by the potion, he had been witnessed casting a powerful firestorm spell immediately afterward. In my opinion, Dumbledore had enough strength left to fight back against a sixth-year student even without a wand, yet he refused to even in the face of someone who had made numerous attempts on his life. Dumbledore is a pacifist and is far more comfortable teaching, advising and acting as a role model for others than he is taking part in battle on the front line.

@@thomasodell9328 That's perfectly explained.

@@thomasodell9328 Sounds interesting but it's a bit of a wall. A few paragraph breaks might make this easier to digest.

@@thomasodell9328 The reason he waited to fight Grindelwald was because of their blood pact. Only after the pact was destroyed/cancelled they could fight. Because of the pact Grindelwald also never acted, in person, in the UK. Dumbledore also couldn't go to where Grindelwald was. That scene in Crimes of Grindelwald where Dumbly tells that he CAN'T fight Grindelwald is an actual fact... they are bounded by magic to no fight agaist each other...

It literally doesn't matter, one means you're immortal. As long as he kept his diary hidden away permanently than it wouldn't matter if he just had that one or if he had all six. Only reason he bothered with more is he's paranoid as hell when it comes to death and religious as shit when it comes to the number seven.

@@Xershade But one is way easier to "track" than seven or more,right?

If Dumbledore never took Tom to Hogwarts, then Tom would've never learned how to use magic, he wouldn't have learned about horcruxes, nor would he had become Voldemort in the future. The chamber of secrets would've never been opened which means that Moaning Myrtle would still be alive and Hagrid would not have been expelled from Hogwarts. No Voldemort means no death eaters. All the people he killed to make horcruxes would still be alive, Lily and James Potter would still be alive, Harry's childhood would be completely different, Sirius Black would've never been locked up in Azkaban prison, Peter Pettigrew wouldn't turn himself into a rat who went on to be the Weasleys' family pet, and the entire Harry Potter series wouldn't have happened the way it did.

Doesn't mean that he can't be a muggle mass murderer Or probably he would have start world war three

@@Iamdefinietlynotuptoanygood Probably would have been a serial killer at the minimum, he was always dangerous, prideful, narcissistic , sadistic, and remorseless. Magic just made him more powerful and dangerous, but he would have definitely done something murderous later in life given how he hanged a kid's rabbit and lured two kids to a cave just to scare them. As an adult he definitely would have done more.

I imagine Tom Riddle would have ultimately chosen the same path - wizard or not, Tom Riddle would still have strived for greatness, power, and immortality. The only difference depends on how successful he would be, and if he would ever learn how to properly use and control his magic. In a world without magic, he would have turned to science and medicine. If he never met Dumbledore, I'm sure Tom would have strived to become a doctor, one who would push the boundaries and go further than any doctor with morals would dare - like so many scientists and doctors from recent history, who could similarly be described as terrible or pioneers. And eventually, Tom would have used his profession in medicine to get himself into a position of power, aspiring to become a dictator, much like he does as a dark wizard. And I'm sure the "Death Eaters" would have still existed. But they wouldn't have been wizards, but his personal gang of thugs and killers. But that said, just because Dumbledore might not have found Tom or taken him to Hogwarts doesn't necessarily mean that another wizard or witch could not have. For all we know, Tom could have ended up a student at Durmstrang anyway.

I mean, aren't they two sides of the same coin? Dumbledore withheld from him the opportunity to influence the young, naive and open-minded students of Hogwarts, so Riddle had to settle for converting those whose views were already skewed toward wizarding supremacy and blood purity.

But is Muggle society really that tollerant?

I don't think so?

Ryan Kueter if you look at the timeline, you’ll see that Tom Riddle graduated Hogwarts in 1945, the same year Grindelwald was defeated

@@rmreilly9472 oh thank you!! I thought you were way off. Like way way off.

Newt Scamander gave Dumbledore Fawkes as a gift

Ancient wizards didn’t note down all their craft fearing that the most potent arts would fall in the wrong hands or their works were lost to time or destroyed through the course of history. Also many magical societies organized around a central authority that placed limitations especially on the dark arts which is why some wizards followed Voldermont because they loathed these stifling laws.

too much attention. his intentions would have been understood very quickly

Yes 😂😭