Ethiopia is on the verge of pulling itself out of poverty, and at the sametime, seemingly on the verge of pulling itself apart. Its very much a microcosm of humanity.
@@TheMrgoodmanners The Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam. It could do a lot of good for the region. Unfortunately, human beings keep getting in our own way.
@@CanadaMMA it is digging itself down into poverty with warmonger pm that took the country into a multi-billion dollar war, instability. For the first time in almost 50 years, there is limited inter regional trade. Inflation is so high (30+ percent) you doubt that if inflation can really go this high. And another civil war is eminent .... in the next few months.
@@CanadaMMA Well the very same dam can infact affect greatly Egypt and Sudan, we're talking about millions if not billions of cubic meter of waters being taken from Nile river from those countries, don't you guys have a better alternative method instead of affecting others
Reminds me of another president who won their Nobel peace prize, just 8 months into his term. Maybe we should hold onto the Nobel Prizes until after they've left office.
Imagine Nobel peace price winner, criminal Henry Kissinger... just given to him in dream to manipulate him to destroy the horn of Africa/ Eritrea like the previous did to somalia , like Kissinger did to Chile...
Same with Obama. Got the Nobel Peace Prize while he was using drone strikes in the ME. Or Theodore Roosevelt who got a Nobel Peace Prize for essentially bullying both Russia and Japan to the peace table (alienating both, leading to the Cold War and WW2, respectively) while he was keeping quasi-colonial policies in Cuba and supported Panamanian independence from Colombia...
Not it look like Europe as whole. Europe's whole is broken to ethnic nation. Who make majority of Germany,France,Spain ,Italy, P ,Greece, turkey, Ukraine , russia etc;
Don't Yugoslavian speak different dialects rather than different language amongst their ethnicities? Seems like people just want to divide themselves over minor differences.
Very Very lazy comparison. Yugoslavia was an amalgamation of countries which belonged to austro-hungary and the ottomans after WW1 and has zero Historical precident. Whereas Ethiopia has had an organic and uninterrupted state formation for 3000 yrs with amahras and tigrayans living in harmony for many many centuries
All regional forces are now integrated to the army and there is no war, no problem whatsoever think about it recently Susan's army is in war with RSF which is 100k army it could have been the same case for Ethiopia too even much worse if the army and regional forces go to war each region has its own special force close to 100k in this case the army vs 11 regions with combined 1 million special forces without including their police and militias think about it for me our PM has done a great job with only a little hiccup in Amhara region which is solved with in a week and integrated 1 million forces to federal army and police. We are safe and sound without any problems now and btw it's funny that why TLDR would make a video about a week long protest in some cities which was handled well by the gov't 😂
There is quite an important thing that the narrator missed. The Amhara region was the main proponent of dismantling regional forces, but why are they against it now? That is the million dollar question here - and the answer is : Most of the people of Ethiopia have now lost trust on Abiy (the PM), because what he says and what he does are not the same. For example, people travelling from Amhara region have been frequently prevented from entering the capital. He speaks about the Oromo having the upper hand for the next 100 years. His advisers say the Oromo region is the last region that will have its regional force centralized as the government sees it fit and many more ... This all culminated into fear that he is trying to disarm the regular people, militia, fano and Amhara special forces. And the larger consequence out of this is that he can hand over the disputed areas such as Raya And Wokait back to the TPLF.
False propoganda! Not a single militia from Oromia or any other region will hold a gun unless they join the central Force. Speak for the seek of Truth! And no one lose hope on Abiy other than Amhara people who are suffering from the pain of jealousy of Oromo!
@@Finisher794 Agreed. And this is already becoming so old. There is more that just happened in just a week. PM made a swift peace agreement with Tigray and OLA (Shene) so that they can fight with the Amhara and parliament passed a bill yesterday that allows Tigray and OLA(Shene) forces to join the national military and fight against Amhara. Another war and another Genocide is on the horizon. This time, it is worse than before. It is the Ethiopian Nationalist (Amhara) vs the Ethno-centrist (Tigray + Oromo).
Yes, that is very true. The media got info only from some biased individuals so they make the infos genuine while it gets fake. Only neutral investigators and a real journalist can state the real situation of such complex nation. Everyone believes if you support his/her tribe you are always correct but that is totally not correct. On top of what you mentioned, why the government asked ONLY Amhara Special force to disarm if they think those forces in every regions are not important? Here the good question, I believe. You can take the other calm regions who are still not disarmed yet. It is all about the specific interest that the government and TPLF come against Amhara.
I remember seeing a map years ago that showed what Africa would look like if it was divided up into ethnicity and geographic based nation states like Europe did. They were over 900 countries, some less than two miles across.
incredible. kind of a beautiful testament to human diversity on the continent where homo sapiens originated. and it says quite a bit that arguably the most stable african country (Botswana) is homogenous
Its probably because no large stable empire has come along and destroyed or assimilated all the small peoples. Rome did that in parts of europe, the persians and hellenistic states did that for much of the middle east, the Chinese in their swath of the world, The Spanish and English/Americans in the Americas, and the Indian subcontinent has had several empires stretching over half or more of it. That leaves south-east asia and africa as the places where small languages and cultures thrive.
I have seen that map. It uses a really loose definition of “ethnicity”, with even clans of certain ethnicities being shown as completely separate ethnicities.
I am Egyptian, and I hope that Ethiopia's situation will improve. Ethiopia is a beautiful country, and I hope that Ethiopia will not secede. Sorry if there are spelling mistakes.
Perfect spelling! The only error in what you said is using "secede", which means "break away from" when you meant "break apart". Try using "dissolve", "split up", or get fancy with "balkanize"! Greetings from America!
It seems this stuff is always blamed on colonisation, but really, can't you decide to start trade wars instead of breating each other's heads in? If you formed a block Africa would be the richest continent there is.
I wonder if a more step-by-step approach would work here. Instead of integrating entire regions under one umbrella, only integrate a small part of every region. If these regions become more successful, support would follow.
Saying that the borders not lining up with ethnic boundaries just because it's African is completely missing the context. Ethiopia's borders aren't drawn by a foreign colonial empire (other than losing Eritrea mostly because of the long Italian occupation), but because they thenselves are a colonial empire which never gave up its colonies. That's why the initial war was between tigrayans, who are 6% of the population, and literally everyone else (they were allied with an oromo group and some smaller organizations which mostly existed to make it sound like they had more support), because the Tigrayans and Amhara were the colonial overlords so hold the power
@@drag0n_rage682 More like the Russian empire. In particular it's the use of ethnic migration/settlement that has created a bunch of simmering problems.
"A hungry man is an angry man" When basic needs cannot be met, the people look for who to blame. Rwandans engaged in genocide against each other because their greedy leaders blamed minority ethnicities for their lack of prosperity. But under President Kagame, ethnic tensions have died down as the government is actually competent.
@@BrightWendigo Africa is not any more "resource rich" than any other part of the planet. It is actually a tiny fraction of the global commodity trade.
With the difference that in Sudan the conflict is already larger scale. They are already fighting with big armies, trying to take territory, shooting with artillery and using the air force. Especially in the capital.
@@maclie7078 Sorry, I'm not really up to date. Are they still fighting in Ethiopia? The last thing I heard was that they have become obsessed with port access.
As an Ethiopian, this video is consistent with what’s going on. The main problem is the constitution. The country is drawn upon by ethnic borders, and when you have ethnic borders, you’re not too far from ethnic cleansing. Plainly put it’s an apartheid system. For example, the oromos believe the capital only belongs to them..how do you give a whole capital to one ethnic group? No other nation has such a backward system. It influences and invites war across regions.
@@yenenehw Abiy disbanded the Somali liyu police as well, but Oromo’s are getting special treatment now, it seems like he’s trying to defang any group that’s in competition with Oromo, we’ve been fighting with them and Afar on our borders, Mustafa Cagjar is too weak and stupid to put up a fight. The ONLF will be back Inshallah.
@@Zeyede_Seyum that's what Amhara call it "hell". And I think you are for five years but it's only for this 3 UpTo 4 years but it's been heaven for thousands of years, so we are the most inclusive state in Africa (the funny thing you are saying this when you are living so peacefully in Oromoya" please tell me am li..
@@jonathanterecha6955 too bad oromia didn’t exist 33 years before. Oromo’s don’t practice federalism at all. Fighting with all your neighbors will lead to Tigrai 2.0
Fano's are misrepresented here as Amhara regional special forces. These are two different forces. The Amhara region have special forces as every other regions in Ethiopia. Fano's are Amharas who armed themselve and fight against when such problems happend.
I wanna go to Ethiopia because it looks god damned breathtakingly beautiful if you google pictures of it's landscape, but I also think I'll never make it there for reasons like this.
How about the pictures in this video? Also god damned breathtakingly beautiful? Google landscape pictures of North Korea or Venezuela for example. Seems quite naive and out of touch with reality - how old are you?
@@Longknife I have, to one. It's stressful, the people will cheat you, it's expensive. But if you got lot's money, aren't worried about being cheated and stressed out go for it; I'm not your mommy after all.
@@Charlie43348 No. I hate travelling. And why do you feel sorry for me? I have a job, I have a home, I'm able to eat, I'm able to pay my bills. Don't feel sorry for me, feel sorry for the ones in the video.
This is the very reason why I've decided to leave my beloved country altogether. The tensions between Amhara and Oromo are yet to unfold in the most fatal ways in the near future - a scenario potentially reminiscent to Rwanda 30 years ago. Best of luck, fellow Ethiopians!
Nah, there will be no Rwanda genocide in Ethiopia, I cringe whoever people say that because that tells me they know nothing about us. Our culture is too mature for that trust me.
The Ethiopian state has been very corrupt and in constant conflict since the TPLF implemented ethnic federalism in the 1990s. Some centralization would be beneficial to Ethiopia since it would integrate the Ethiopian states and strengthen institutions. A lot of this decentralization stems from anti-Oromo sentiment, which is really weird because they have always been oppressed meanwhile Ethiopia has been ruled by Amhara elites and Tigrayan elites (emphasis on the elites, not the people). This ethnic federalism has escalated border relations and ethnic tensions, and has only benefitted a small minority of the population. Wealth and power has been unequally concentrated, and the more populous regions have become less developed than their smaller counterparts.
@@hamdigreat4524 Why do you think it's bad? People want to be ruled by someone with the same culture and values. It is very understandable, especially in Africa, where the laws still don't work properly and discrimination is very real. Let people live on their own until they are ready and willing to cooperate.
From what I've seen almost all successful federal states (Germany, the US, etc) have been created when smaller states joining to forma larger entity. Turning a historically centralized and unitary state federal doesn't seem to work. However it's especially worse when local militias are allowed to exist and democracy and the rule of law isn't strong.
@LH Tam Federalization of Russia originally began with the USSR, which ended up as we know. However an additional point with USSR is that it was a dictatorship, and the autonomy of the various regions were undermined by Moscow. Modern Russia is more of the same. From what I know, with the exception of Chechnya, the government of all republics are puppets of Putin. This system of surface level federalism also has a bad effect because it just keeps the center and the dominant group at the top, continuing the issues until the disgruntled regions loose interest and leave.
I think that's a really smart part of it, people are living in horrible conditions in these countries and are probably not that educated, that's the main problem in my opinion.
It is really shame really. Such a beautiful country and has roots in early Christianity so appeals to history lovers as well yet descending into utter chaos - yet again. 😢😢
Christianity is the reason there's so much conflict. It's a Christian country surrounded by muslim ones, a relic of the failed attempt at invasion during the Islamic invasion of east Africa. Oromos are around 55-60% muslims and Amharas are 80 - 90 % Christians, they've fought since way back, and I personally believe it is mainly a religious conflict, not an ethnic one.
You got that right!!! That's exactly why the Western countries, especially the US, are enforcing their own agendas. TPLF and Oromo's onge Shene are the threat to the country unity not Amhara. Why disarm Amhara before any other armed forces? That's the question that needs to be answered.
@@EM-tx3ly For the Amhara (FANOs logo has a ethiopian flag on it not the regional flag) and every other tribe excluding the Oromo and Tigray the survival of the Ethiopian state is more important than the tribe. Ethiopia only started to have such wide spread problems with tribal interests when the TPLF (Tigray) came to power. The TPLF spread disinformation in order to create distrust between the different tribes and by making tribal identity more important than nationality. Thus preventing different tribes from working together against them. Ultimately they wanted to declare independence after plundering the country. People fear that Abiys government has adopted this plan for the Oromos. As a result groups like Fano refuse to give up their weapons. If Abiy showed genuine interest to unite Ethiopia this would not have happened.
This is written by people who don’t know Ethiopian history. Ethiopia is a troubled country. For centuries it has suffered famine, war and rebellion and it has always stood. In 2015 (Oromo protests) western media were saying Ethiopia could collapse, in 2020-22 (Tigray war) it would collapse and now same thing. It has withstood internal rebellion, foreign invasions, communism and colonialism. At its core it is a resilient state that will again come through its troubles.
@@raceris7309 read it again. They are not comparable. I never mentioned about ‘existing’ v failed state. The Somali state is new concept (post ww2) and proven not to be resilient. Ethiopia as a state has existed since 300AD or 1100AD depending on who you ask. Since those times the state, like all old states ebb and flow in regards to its ability to control its entities but never has it ‘failed or collapsed’.
It would be ironic if instead of all the european made large former colonies, the first to collapse would be the only non-colonized country. But it did become what it is by it's own imperialism and all peoples should be allowed to choose their future. Be it part of a centralized state, independence or a federal country.
Idk if I would label it imperialism, it was occupation, and at one point colonialism, but imperialism is a different thing that implies more than just conquering a region
@elven rights Did you just make up a bunch of history for no reason at all? What is the point.of your comment when even you wrote "I suspect" ? Axum, Ethiopia and Abyssinia are all names for essentially the same state and is an ancient Coptic civilisation, mentioned even by name within the Bible.
0:14 is only 1 reason the civil war started. I'd argue the unprovoked ambush and massacre of an entire army base by the TPLF was a more significant factor.
I have to disagree with your conclusion; I'm afraid this type of "centralization" would only benefit the wealthy and powerful in the country as it facilitates them becoming brokers for inroads for foreign corporations.
@@kingace6186 The GOOD NEWS is that more than 1.5 millions of your fellows ዘርኢ ድያብሎሳት ትግራዋይhave been sent to HELL where right now they are RESTING & ROASTING in eternal HELL.
It's a history we never will never fail, but this time, the way this guy abie handled it is really bad, so Ethiopian we have to be united forever I never give my people ...not greedy politicians .
@@Kodackbrown26 yes but there were more casualties in Tigray because most casualties came from the war making it harder to get food at the same time as a drought, and when you're not growing your own food and cut off from buying food from the rest of the world, a lot of people starve
In 2020, the Tigray population was a little over 6 Million people.* According to Amnesty, the casualties were 800,000 people* with millions more injured/starving/forcefully displaced.*
It seems you are interested on Ethiopian politics. But, it seems you have no adequate information on active genocide and ethnic cleaning in Oromia region which is supported by Abiy Ahmed's government
The amount of inter-country fighting in some parts of Africa is mad. Like jesus dudes there are enough external threats without freaking out about your fellow countrymen. Edited - stop telling me off for saying inter tribal I used the wrong word 👌
@@Zen-sx5io I am an Ethiopian myself. that is why I say this video presents misleading information about Ethiopia, giving a false impression of the nation as a whole. While it is true that Ethiopia is currently facing ethnic tension, the video oversimplifies the issue and portrays the country as never having been united. This is simply not accurate, as Ethiopia has a rich history of cultural diversity and unity. It is important to approach this complex topic with nuance and understanding, rather than reducing it to a simplistic ethnic problem.
The PM wants to dismantle our special Forces which leaves us somalis at great risk as we had already been attacked by Oromo and Afars multiple times including a couple months ago.
@@bez1196 yes exactly, I have no problems with a disarmed Somali region if my neighbours are also Disarmed so no one will have to worry about getting attacked. But so far the PM hasn't disarmed his own ethnic group, oromo, so no one can trust him.
@@bez1196 The Ethiopian Orthodox Church took a political stand pro Abi Ahmed and Pro war. The Tigray region Orthodox Church separated from the Ethiopian Orthodox Church due to their stance on pro war. The Oromo Orthodox Church wanted to separate from the Ethiopian Orthodox Church due to their history of discrimination and marginalization of the Oromo people. Ethiopia has 86 tribes and most feeling like they are marginalized and underrepresented.
It is also worth to mention that the Tigray region dominated for a long time as a minority, brutally supressing larger ethnic groups. Oromo despite being the majority have been marginalized.
I’m super glad you guys have such a big viewer-base because you’re reporting is consistent, sincere and well-researched. Which is not something you can say for all of youtube where some people look at a geopolitical subject with a biased conclusion already in mind. Ethiopia has for a while been the diplomatic negotiator in East African conflicts, since it had a very stable government and rapidly growing economy. We just have to hope that a new government might form to work with the other provinces, especially Tigray.
As an Ethiopian I have to say that I am astonished by the fact that you summarize the nation's centuries long historical tensions with in 9 minutes. Most of your analysis comes from viewing the outcome of war or tension rather than causes. Majority of Ethiopians don't prefer the ethnic federalism with regions having border and their own army in addition to the central army by arguing geographical is better. The tigray war which consumes about 800,000 people with in just 2 years (more than any war in the world ) result from this ethnic tension added by paramilitary forces and ironically in the era of a leader who is Nobel peace prize winner (2019) which by the way makes the Norwegian 5 MPs of the prize committee shameful. Unless there is structural and constitutional change Ethiopia's chance of surviving even in the form of post USSR or Yugoslavia is minimal. Added to this you forget to discuss the role or influence of USA / EU and China Russia and other local powers like UAE , Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
He said “ethnic federalism”. Most people would agree that real federalism (all interests represented in a more centralized system) is better than having a bunch of ethnic groups that fight constantly.
@@zakiabrahim2164 that opens new line of discussion to talk about which tribe exploit and which support federalism. Don't make it personal I am expressing a general system of the country.
Why Africans keep fighting and killing eachother over ethnic, religious and tribal divisions? Is it cultural? Ethiopia's neighbour Sudan has recently descended in to anarchy too. African will be home to 40% of humanity by 2100 and looking at its current state the future of human race looks darks.
How could Ethiopia centralise its nation without upsetting the cultural minorities? Divide the states into different regions to focus less on cultural boundaries or keep the system and create rival states?
I think the answer was given further South in Africa, in Botswana. If I recall correctly, I think there were 11-12 tribes, but with competent leadership, Sir Seretse Khama managed to forge them into a nation and create a feeling that all people, regardless of ethnic/tribal loyalty had a stake in this greater political entity. Botswana is one of the few countries in post-colonial Africa which never had civil conflicts and which has a stable democracy. People will unite if they have a reason to unite, so give them a reason. Create inter-group cooperation projects, like infrastructure and economic development projects that would benefit more than just one group and make them feel first and foremost as Ethiopians rather than just Oromo or Amhara or whatever. That would be my answer.
@@octavianpopescu4776Ethiopia is a forced country. Why would people who have been forced and oppressed into a country unite with their oppressors. Every single damn person in the Horn of Africa hated every single bit of that empire except for the Amhara, because then they had power, as if they don’t have any right now, because abiy keeps switching sides. Some of the more radical Oromos want Oromia to be a country. Botswana is totally different. And also, Ethiopia just has a much larger amount of tribes, you couldn’t possibly make them all agree. Point is, why would people stay in a country they don’t want to be in?
@@octavianpopescu4776every single somali in Ethiopia dont wanna be part of Ethiopia and rightfully so. We are forced to be part of it. We are just waiting and some of us have been fighting for it. Soon or later we will separate our land from Ethiopia.
@@razackchrist5096 Foundational Black American = FBA. I want all eumelanated diasporan people to prosper whether it is in the west, Caribbean, or the continent.
@@axtept66666 He was awarded Nobel peace prize, because he ended a long-gone conflict between Ethiopia and Eriteria. I'm not a supporter, but I think he deserved the prize. And there is no proof he if he did commit any attrocities, it's just made up western propaganda.
@@axtept66666 Abiy doesn't get called a war criminal because he didn't attack another country unlike Putin. Putin attacked Ukraine which is not apart of Russia.
Don’t be stupid walal the Somali region is prolly one of the most abused by federal gov so I think we should not integrate our forces into federal army but instead oust cagjar n stock up for the inevitable war that is coming bc abiy will never succeed wit this plan
Even though Ethiopia was not colonised and created by European powers. It was an Empire, I believe run by the Amhara. This is what happens with empires, either the minorities (or vassals) get ethnocided /genocided or you get what's happening to Ethiopia. Humans aren't meant to be so diverse in one space. The early Africa accepts to readjust it's Imperial and colonial borders the better for us.. Otherwise our children will still be dealing with the problems our parents dealt with
Ethiopia today is larger than it was because the british gave away lands from italian colonies and they never wanted to be part of ethiopia Ethiopias history is in the highlands and thats it
You have a point here we claim we are not colonized but i believe we Ethiopian done more bad thing to our selve than what some white dude from italy may have done.
There are so many fundementals that the speaker did not discuss. I understand it might be complex, but I think with little more research, it can be grasped. As an Ethiopian, I can assure you that this is the most divisive constitution in the history of mankind. From the cover, it might sound good in creating 'equality'. But if you know its depth and how it being applied, then you will get shocked. In short, the constitution: 1. The core of the constitution was to weakening and eventually annilating ethnic Amharas. 2. Was designed for minority Tigray to rule majoirity, the rest of the country. 3. Was designed to divide and rule. 4. There are 86 ethnic groups, but only 11 (3 recently added) so most ethnic groups have no meaningful representation. If the constitution was designed for fair representation, then all of them should have regional state. 😂 3. You mentioned, Harere Regional State with 250,000 people. Yet it is a regional state. There are people groups that are by far many but have no regional state. Example, Guragee with 3,000,000 + population. 4. You said the regions geography represnt the majourity who live in it, right? Benishangul Regional State, the majourity are not the ethnics combined to form that region. So that is not the case. The geography does not also represent the population. Somali and Oromia regional states and the geography does not reflect your analysis, so is Afar. They both have so larger that, majority of the land is not inhabited. In the contrary, Amhara, the largest ethnic group has relatively, smaller geographical area compared to the others in proportion with its population. 😅 5. You should also know that withing these "large regional states" there are minorities whose right to govern themselves is only respcted in Amhara region. Not in Tigray and Oromia (Never!) why? The constitution was written by Tigrayans ethno separetist group TPLF and Oromo Separetist group OLF. They succeeded graping thw power supported by USA and the West during cold war. By then the State was run by communist dictatorship. The consequences of this constitutional arrangement has been a fatal decline in the history of a country where people of different ethnic groups and other diversities were living for many years with relatively mutual.respect compared to today where your survival is solely based on hiding yourself in ypur ethnic group. There is no State as one don't have any right outside of his "regional ethnic teritory" . This is the most premitive, non sense and dangerous form of government system. Amharas are accusd of opposing this constitution. They opose it as it affected them the most negatively. But it really has affected all Ethiopians from any ethnic group in one or another way. If Ethiopia is to continue as a state, then the constitution must be changed. Disharming the special force itself is against the constitution. 😅 So it will not work and perhaps will bring another civil war. But really, what is at play is anti Amhara sentiment of the constitution spirit and the governments including current leader Abiye. Amharas are now supported.by the rest of people in Ethiopia who are tired and sick of these divisive constitution.
I appreciate your effort to understand and share your understanding about Ethiopia and its Economic, cultural, social, and conflict issues, but I have reservation regarding your description of Fano as one of the regional militias. Fano is a volunteer regular people who rise up when their freedom is threatened, like what happened Duering the Italian occupation. The Amhara special forces and the Amhara militia are not the same as the Fano, fano is a value of the Amhara people willing to fight for their freedom.
You’ve made a couple mistakes. 1, The Tigray war did not start because of election, it started because tplf attacked federal military base in Tigray. 2, Fanos are militias. They don’t take orders from the regional government 3, although most Amhara would agree to a powerful central gov and having a centralized military is good but the timing of disarmament was poorly done by the gov.
@@views_of_oromia5622 It's mainly Galla corruption and inferiority complex that got us into this dumpster fire of a situation. Soon all problems will be solved.
No no no I Travel around Ethiopia and if you go around Oromoya you will see everyone beloved Amharas, beloved Gurage, beloved debube by merrage and working prospering and if you go to Amhara or some you will never see an another Ethnic of any or it's under 1% so I will recommend you to go around Oromoya and Amhara to see the reality rather than what a the politician told you
@@jonathanterecha6955 Amhara region literally gave a special administrative zone to 500,000 Oromo’s in In its Region and also to Agaw, Awi and Argobba minorities. So why are millions of Amharas and Guraghes in Oromia don’t have a representation let alone a special zone? Oromia’s constitution on chapter 2 article 8 a) Sovereign power in the Regional state of oromia resides in the people of Oromo nation compared to Amhara constitution the supreme power of the national regional state resides in and belongs to the peoples of the Amhara Region.
@@jonathanterecha6955 You're braindead. Search up the Gimbi massacre. Amharas are tired of the constant inferiority complex that comes with Oromos and their barbaric nature. Oromo region doesn't even have any special zones for minorities yet Amharas are expected to tolerate having more than 3 special zones tearing their region apart. This will change immediately.
It always seems so arbitrary to me when people draw ethnic boundaries between otherwise indistinguishable people and literally fight to the death over it. The same thing happens in ethiopia, the balkans, even southeast asia. But if you removed all history from their family trees or approached any of them as a stranger i doubt anyone could tell each other apart. It is not even racism at this point, it is just warring family trees.
Oromo and Amhara are as different as an indian and a german You might think we are all the same but our history says otherwise and saying it isnt racism proves you know nothing about the region
Just a few corrections. There is no conflict between the Amharas and the Oromos. Extremist Oromo politicians and their cessationist army of thugs are killing ethnic Amharas in the Wellega, Oromia so as to invite all out war against the Amharas (and Ethiopianists, in general), thereby ensuring their power-grabbing wishes. Ordinary Oromos and Amharas have been living harmoniously side by side for thousands of years and shall keep that for the future. Abi Ahmed is an Amhara through his mother who also happened to be an Orthodox Christian. He is an Oromo through his father who happened to be a Muslim. Abiy himself is an Evangelical Christian, which shows the multi-ethnic and multi-religious environment he grew up in, which, in turn, seemingly influenced his pan Africanist stance. There is no logical nor factual reason to support the idea that he is ethno-centric. Simply put, he is an Ethiopian just like millions of others. This myth propagated by Oromo (and others) activists as him favouring the Oromos is nothing but a myth. Ethiopia had not been, as the presenter lazily commented, in what seemed to be in an eternal ethnic conflict. Of course, there had been inter-tribal skirmishes now and then as in many other countries. To label Ethiopia as a country of incessant ethnic strifes can only be interpreted as an attempt to deny its history of thousands of years of peaceful coexistence between various ethnic groups. Here one may also need to emphasize that the current situation was created by the TPLF dominated government that came to power in 1991, which introduced ethnic apartheid (with the help of the USA) in Ethiopia, which Abiy Ahmed is trying to abolish.
@@amanuelzewdie3650 how so? Your evidence? His mother's name is Tizita Welde, an Amhara name, and had been said to be of Amhara community wherever one is to check about her background. In fact, the PM's wife, Zinash Tayachew, is said to be of the same ethnical background as Woizero Tizita. In the last analysis, whether he is 100 or less% Oromo has had nor will have any bearing on his capacity to lead the country. He is an Ethiopian like everyone else.
@@amanuelzewdie3650 ...I hope your next fabrication is not going to be that she is a Muslim. Can you please send a link in which Abiy stated his mother was an Oromo since you stated 'he said it on MANY occasions'? Not that in itself should make any difference (if it happens to be true!) or matters at all but out of interest in how you are going to prove that. As far as the majority of Ethiopians are concerned, they don't give a damn whether she is a Somali, Angnuak or Hararie. Not all are crazy about ethnic apartheid, as you seem to be.
In the last four years Amhara communities living in the Oromo region have been subjected to sustained violence by Oromo nationalists; the Oromo Liberation Front (OLF)/Oromo Liberation Army (OLA), together with Oromo Special Forces ((OSF) and the Queero (Oromo youth group) are behind the violence, with it seems, the approval, perhaps active participation, of the government.
There has been just as much violence against Oromo in Amhara. Stop fighting each other and realize the elites are pitting you against each other so you don't come for them. Culturally and genetically there is barely any distinction between amhara and Oromo, there has been so much intermixing between them. The divisions between them are purely artificial made by greedy politicians. Im American, I can tell you what happens when you let the politicians divide regular people. They get away with war profiteering pyramid schemes, tax evasion, name anything shotty they could do and they're doing it. Meanwhile we're killing each other in the streets and trying to coup the government for being a party you don't like. Don't be like us, work together against the shitty politicians.
To start with the Oromos are not the biggest population because there is no tangible census that has been done correctly (without political agenda behind it). The current map that was made by TPLF by itself is wrong because it took Shewa region from the Amharas and gave it to the Oromos.
Anybody with half a brain clearly knows oromos r largest tribe in Ethiopia and outnumber the fake amharas ...if you minus the tribes which amharas force to speak Amharic and steal their land like wolkayit rayyya beta Israel and agaw then amharas are less than 15 million...while oromo as we speak are over 35 million and this is coming from a Somali from somalia
@Hassan Al Jabarti In the first place who annexed a bunch of land from Amhara? TPLF and the Oromo moment leaders. Second, Who demolished the tribes in Ethiopia in the name of Gadda, Gudifecha, etc…? Again the Oromo movement leaders and tribes. If Amhara kings were to force the tribes that the Oromo movement cleansed, then there would have been no other tribe other than the Amharas by now. The Amhara kings never ever forced any of the tribes to speak their language or do anything that they don’t want. That is why you see a lot of kings like TONA from a different tribe than Amhara in the history of Ethiopia. Oromos didn’t even exist before the 15th and 16th centuries in Abyssinia. I don’t know what type of history you have been reading. And this has been written not by the Amharas but by Portuguese historians and other historians who have been traveling to the east of Africa in that time.
@@isaias7506 enjoy being ruled by my Cushitic oromo cousins who are now disbanding your racist genocide commiting liyu amhara militia haha Amhara did try to force everyone to speak their disgusting language and your people did settler colonialism where peasant amharas were re settled in prime agricultural land belonging to oromo and other tribes in their own oromo and other tribal land....hence why a century later, oromo rebels are killing those illegal squatting amhara and taking back their oromo farms All Ethiopians know amhara were the most evil people to ever rule Ethiopia cry all you want, you are now ruled by Cushitic oromo
@@hassanabdikarimmohamed2505 The Oromos literally can not claim an inch of land if you really wanna talk about land ownership. And there are so many books to proof this. As I have told you Oromo didn’t exist before the 15th and 16th century. However, Amharas had a monastery in Zeway in the 10th century. This by itself will knock out your claim of land ownership. Claiming land is not a good way to live peacefully. The only way to sustain peace is to stop killing Amharas and start living together as an Ethiopian. And Amharas have been doing that for years. They never force anyone to leave. And, no. I’m not enjoying you cousins leadership because they are killing thousands of people mainly Amharas because of their ethnicity. Literally no tribe in Ethiopia accused the Amhara people and Amhara kings for being evil. The proof for this is that Oromos living in Amhara region today are not being touched by Amharas where the Amharas in Oromia are literally being mutilated and being ethnically cleansed. In addition, Amharas exist from north to south and east to west for hundreds of years. Within this years, they are known for being very peace loving, hardworking, GOD fearing, helpful and polite towards any of the other tribes. You can see Amharas being married to other tribes and make families all over the country. This wouldn’t happen if they were not peace loving. However, if you have healthy eyes and brain, you can clearly see OLA(Oromo liberation Army) killing the Amharas all over oromia region and in Addis Ababa. Now, who is evil?! One thing I will assure you is that Amharas are getting together again and they are getting stronger. I will assure you justice will be served soon not by killing but by law.
@@isaias7506 let me tell you Oromo are more likely to die in land of oromia than average Amhara who just live in Oromia and don't contribute anything to regions of peace and stability and they still think they are better just because some Amhara settled in oromia in 20 th c. Oromia is no more Amhara and Oromo like it used to be now there are many southern, gurage and silte people in each and every town and city in Oromia. Who is sacrificing his life for these people in front of rebel group like olf and fano just to keep people in peace. It's oromia regional force be grate ful. Time will tell who is right but i can assure you Oromia land is not going anywhere you can't minus 1 inch square from this beatiful land called Oromia. We need peace do not be arrogant. I just pray true federalism for Us
This analysis is missing two fundamental aspects. First of all, PM Abiy is not just an Oromo, he is an Oromo-Amhara. The Amhara side of his lineage plays an extremely important part in his move to centralize the state of Ethiopia. Secondly, Ethiopia is the result of African imperialism and colonialism. So, the problems you define as "ethnic" go far deeper. The vast majority of the non-Amhara peoples of Ethiopia enjoyed relative freedom within their own kingdoms, principalities, and sultanates before 1850. The African imperial and colonial aggression and expansion beginning in the 1850s of the Amhara emperor, Menelik II, changed all that, forcing formerly independent, non-Amhara peoples into the oppressive and degrading regime of an Amhara colonial empire! If you look at history of ethnic conflict carefully, you will see that it is conflict between the Amhara people on the one hand and the non-Amhara peoples of the Ethiopia on the other. Non-Amhara peoples have not forgotten the oppression and degradation they suffered under Amhara imperial rule! They don't want to see a return of this rule. This is one reason why PM Abiy's plans for centralized political control is so problematic for so many!
u r animal like Oromos! may be u r Oromo? Aby is evil///and u r undertaking propaganda like Amhara and non-amhara, intending to get supporter if civil war between Amhara and Oromo is evitable. ggggggg😂😂😂
History doesn’t start in the 19th C. Oromo’s invaded Ethiopia and swallowed 27 tribes from 🇰🇪 in 16th century to the 19th until Amhara stopped them. Your invasion was documented by Arabs and Portuguese too.
@@A.D.540 maybe but really no. When someone says "tribe" do you really just think of a small ethnic group? No you think of some poor African subsistence farmers living in mud huts, because that's what we in the west have convinced ourselves that africa is.
@@A.D.540 No, tribe has racial undertones. Have you ever heard the Irish people or Germans being referred to as a tribe? Amharas and Oromos outnumber them btw
Having so many militia groups loyal to their own regions rather than the country is just asking for trouble. If the gov cannot maintain control over the country, then it may lead to full-on civil war. Ethiopia's tribalism will be its undoing and if it balkanises, all its regions will be worse off than before. Ethiopia needs to adopt systems that promote the Ethiopian identity over regional identities. They should implement strong institutions on the national level and heck, redraw state borders to better align with the geography of the country. South Africa is a good example to follow. Tribalism there is only limited to banter and twitter arguments.
That not going to happen since the ethiopia system is a federal one means that each region would have their own rights to elect their own representative and manage their own affairs. If you want to centralised the state you need to get rid of the federal system which is the whole reason why ethiopia is still stable I mean it's the whole reason why other regions didn't form their own state or join their neighbours like somalia for example.
@@hornerfarah2282 Also the small tiny Minority ethnic groups in Ethiopia are fine with a Unitary government. Its only the Tigray and Oromo who hate it since they aren't small ethnic groups.
How do you promote Ethiopian ism when most of them dont believe in it. And those who believe it dont believe the rest are not Ethiopian but just a people who came and should stay oppressed. Amhara thinks Ethiopia belongs to them
In previous videos you explained it better. Like, it should be pointed out that Tigray was the first and for a time only region willing to fight for separation, which was due to the fact that before Abby was elected, the Tigrays and the tplf had control over the federal government. So Abby's takeover was basically seen by the tplf as a threat to their dominance over the country
Abiy is not trying to centralize power. He's building an Oromo dominance, hegemony, and supremacy. You forgot one important fact: that the entire military apparatus is led by Oromo generals, and that we don't have a national force at the moment, instead what we have is an Oromo forces disguised in Ethiopian uniforms. The new Oromo-Tigrean alliance will disintegrate as fast as it was formed. It just a matter of time, because Oromos and Tigreans have one common enemy: Amharas. Thus, from Amhara perspective, Amharas will do everything in their power to defend their livelihood from Tigreans/Oromos. FANO and Amhara Special Forces will not disarm. Abiy's plan has failed, and he's Oromo forces that he sent to Amhara region have been neutralized.
As the person who born and raised in Addis Ababa Around (Merkato), I would say, you are one of the most Anti Ethiopian propaganda leader of Amhara and please don't play a game by saying am not Amhara or Oromo or Gurage. You are absolutely Anti Oromo clearly, when I grow up in Merkato in my hood I have been bulled by Amhara while they live in Oromoya(Addis Ababa) but Oromo is the most loving people in Ethiopia when ever you go to Oromoya region you see others living and prospering in Oromoya State but Oromo but they started ensalting and claiming it's there land and so on. Which is annoying and frastrating but if you see an History till now Oromo is the most loving and inclusive. Inside Oromo (Amhara, Gurage,silte, Tegrey, Somalia....) Inside Amhara (just them "because they are really resist") " The one who destroy Ethiopia, is the one who says Ethiopia Ethiopia in there mouth not practical" Professor Haile Gerima Hope the True Inclusive Ethiopia Win!!
It's not accurate to say that Abiy's actions were viewed as an Oromo power grab. In fact, they were seen as a betrayal by many Oromo, and it was seen as more of an Amhara policy simply being pushed by someone who happens not to be Amhara himself. The politics in Ethiopia are often divided by ethnicity the same way they're divided by party in most countries. The Oromo and Tigrayans, plus some other smaller ethnicities, support decentralization, the Amhara and some smaller ethnicities support centralization. Also the no one is worried about the Oromo dominating politics, as they are currently underrepresented, and their population is very similar to the Amhara, each if them have very roughly 30% of the population. For anything to be passed in a more centralized government, you would need either the support of both 100% of the Oromo and Amhara, 100% of one of them and most of the smaller ethnic groups, or more realistically, most of the Oromo and Amhara while still having plenty of support from the other ethnic groups
In a multiparty system, the usual are around 8 parties elected, all them from diferent ideology. If you add ethnic diferences to that, problably Ethiopia needs a 500 seats parliament, to allow small ideological parties from small ethnical group, to be able to elect seats and voice.
It would be like EU, were they, ther several parties from same ideology, but diferent ethnics, are "forced" to form multi-ethnical ideology blocks. Ckeck EU parliament composition to understand this words...
His actions are certainly a power grab, but not Oromo. The Oromo have a standing civil war with the federal government. I thing Abiy is trying to grab power for Abiy, and he doesn't care who dies in the process.
Nope it is about land and identity, and history? Just like in Europe where they used to kill each other made their subjects So don't come to belittle us buddy
Conflicts between Amhara and Oromo???? That's dangerously misleading. EPRDF split in two Oromo PP and TPLF for power struggle and millions suffered. Amhara's are not organized by ethic line and b/c of that they got slaughtered. Tigray TPLF slaughtered the Amharas for 44yrs slow Genocide. PMAA gov and Oromo PP-OLA committed unspeakable atrocities ethnic clearaning and Genocide past 5 years. Specially in Wellega
You get the statistics wrong. The 2007 censuses was politically motivated and the Oromos are not more than 8.5 Million in Ethiopia. They are also rooted in Northern Kenya and Tanzania way up to their root in Madagascar. They are late arrival to Ethiopia in the 15th century via pasturalization and destroyed almost 37 tribes by killing males to halt fertility and overtake grazing lands. In fact, in the current TPLF factious demarcation of the so called " Oromiya" region in Ethiopia, there are ~ 10 -15 million indigenous Amharas living . With the current turmoil in the country, TPLF and the Oromo squad ( lead by Mr. Abiy Ahmed Ali) are having a road map to tear up ancient Ethiopia and creating mini countries. The only tribe resisting and fighting these two treason actors are the Amhara people. The funny thing is, the #world has been misguided about the Amhara struggle for survival and fight to keep Ethiopia to avoid disintegration. BTW, there is no region called West Tigray, it is invaded by the TPLF during their reging for 27 years in search of fertile land and taken from Amharas. In summary, there will soon be a huge spill of instability in Ethiopia and in the horn of Africa unless, the fake PhD holder Mr. Abiy Ahmed Ali (PM) of Ethiopia and the TPLF are dealt with caution to save Ethiopia and East African countries.
Ethiopia has faced significant challenges in uniting its diverse population since its inception. Differences in origin, beliefs, and lifestyles have led to deep divisions among its people. With over 80 ethnic groups and more than 105 languages spoken across the country, achieving unity has proven difficult. Ethiopia has a troubled history of inequality, with certain groups, such as the Amhara and Tigray, holding power and mistreating others. Now, the majority of the ethnic groups advocate for a peaceful dissolution of Ethiopia, similar to the breakup of the Soviet Union. However, if this isn't realized, it could result in violent conflict and turmoil, akin to the tragedy witnessed in Yugoslavia.
I don’t wanna be an apologist or anything but from the way it’s presented here at least, Abiy Ahmed kinda has a point. It’s nice that every people group has their own region, but like with the Harare and Oromo, a lot of these are extremely unbalanced in size and power, and them being allowed to create their own ethnic militias was guaranteed to spark ethnic conflict over every bored disagreement rather than just letting the government arbitrate the matter. Obviously the war is horrific but it does remind me of the pre civil war United States where peoples personal loyalty to their own home region created instability when those regions decided they didn’t like what the government was doing.
Ethiopia is a failed state from the very start Regions subjected will never submit Pre civil war us is a failed comparison. The country is older than the oldest ancient empire on your continent If the amhara get removed the country will be peaceful
I'm surprised the video did not mention that in Ethiopia, secession is legal and explicitly allowed in the Constitution. A region could break away by following the mandated process.
@@kingsom9108 exactly, each people live in their ancestral homeland & wish to have their affairs represented by themselves, an agreed upon secession could have allowed countries to form peacefully but even Eritrea wasn’t given this even though its in the Constitution, Eritrea could have been a good democracy if its Self-determination was respected but instead it was attacked now they have a dictatorship.
@@kingsom9108 the right to have break from the country is not even from Amhara why you include that. It's the party that is still rulling ETHIOPIA under different name who included the right. I don't know why Amhara people love emperor so much even your village people don't like emperor. They are full of themselves they don't care about people read history. Ethiopia start to develop equally from derg time.
Your analysis is correct ( there was no misleading information) but it is not one which leads to a comclusion of collapse. There is a move towards recouncilation and peace despite difficulties. You need to focus more on such promising and positive prospects
Well I think he just explained the situation as is … and some of us have learnt a thing or two … we can’t be this naive and sensitive so that when someone explains the situation as is … we get offended
Overall well researched except one misconception. In fact most minority ethnic groups feel safe and protected in a more inclusive united Ethiopia except few such as TPLF and Ogaden which have their roots in external factors. For Example TPLF was a tactical brainchild of Etitrean independence movement and the Eritreans literally carried TPLF all the way to the capital Addis Ababa. Whereas, the Ogaden movement was part and parcel of the "Greater Somalia" project propagated by Egypt, which eventually ended-up destroying Somalia all together...the fact that of all 81 ethnic groups non other rhan these few raised arms should say something..even the groups that claimed to represent the numerically big Oromo region never managed to galvanize the population and capture a single village despite the fact that they have been around in name for as long as TPLF or ELF was around, it was only when TPLF arrived in Addis and divided the country in ethnic lines they got allowed in to the country!!!!!!
why is everyone always obsessed with people who CLEARLY don't want to be together remaining forced? if some people want to leave; they should be allowed to. they shouldn't be kept against their will for some false unity
@@thevinci6717 you do realize that balkanization means ethnic cleansing right ? A border will be drawn and all the ethnic minorities in the wrong side of the border will be killed or forced to move. No one should be killed or punished because of thier ethnicity regardless of where they live.
Honestly as an Ethiopian I will say This thing is getting serious day after day and I personally think that the government is becoming deeply unpopular( oh and also If you have any questions about my country including politics religion and culture you can ask me)
Can you give me like a general overview of what's happening and what potential outcomes may be? And please don't hold back. If you need to write 25 pages just do it, I am actually curious.
@@Chrissy717 Some want ethnic federalism to continue which they see it as life and death others don't want it as it creates more division like 2 more regions formed in the last 5 years as it was 9 regions before abiy they couldn't get those recognition under TPLF 30 year rule and there are also more and more small ethnic groups wanting their own region every single day Mainly I live and born in the capital city which is a federal city that governs itself. The people consist of every ethnic member but lived in harmony and they don't talk through ethnic language with each other but when you go in to different regions they view and talk you through ethnic lines and could face discrimination but the problem is who ever the countries leader is he will be viewed as favouring his ethnic group of people I don't what the solution is but for me I don't want to see 2 armies in my country and militias should not exist but the problem is who will keep the peace in those regions?
A failed leader will result in a failed administration. When you have a leader that is a war monger and leans more and more on his ethnic identity, the result is continuous civil unrest and war. It may not collapse, but we are at the point of witnessing another civil war - mainly because he used the people from Amhara as pawns to forward his interest and betrayed them on the outcome of the war with Tigray. The calm will eventually come after the storm and the chaos will birth a more united Ethiopia with no regional boundaries.
What Abiy is doing is not to integrate the Amhara forces into the Army. It's his pretext to disarm the Amharas whom he thinks will stand against his ambition to bring all Ethiopians under the Oromo dominance.
@Mr.flimflamsdad It's hard to understand Ethiopian politics unless you'r an Ethiopian. Amharas ruled the country for over 100 years, and that regime was overthrown by the military that doesn't represent any particular ethnicity. Then Tigraian forces took power and introduced an evil political system, Ethnic Federalism, to divide the nation and rule because they're a minority. After 27 years of Tigraian rule, people got tired, revolted, and kicked them out. When Abiy came to power, he was telling Ethiopians that he's going to abolish Ethnic politics and strengthen unity. But he was lying, that all his promises was until he consolidate power. People of Ethiopia found out that his plan is to make Ethnic Oromos the dominant power and control the political, economic life of Ethiopians.
I donot know Ethiopia politics but having parallel state militia with national army is bad idea. Infact I guess this is cause of inter region wars in Ethiopia. State/regions govt should have police and central govt should have army. That way of centralisation is actually good
That is really a good one and many Ethiopians believe in that and they sked the government to disarm the special forces but the government do not want it at times but now the timing is not good to disarm ONLY Amharan Special force as the Northern part is already in a serious and sensitive situation. It should be done slowly to bring stability.