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Why Everyone is WRONG About the RX 6500XT 

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@ZachsTechTurf
@ZachsTechTurf 2 года назад
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@malikyopp6656
@malikyopp6656 2 года назад
The graphics card cost 650
@treasurehunter80
@treasurehunter80 2 года назад
300eur in EU i have red devil rx6600xt /750eur/ and 6900xt /1700eur/ XDDDD
@treasurehunter80
@treasurehunter80 2 года назад
ppl that say rx580 is better forget that 6500xt is litle over entry level card and rx580 was almost top of the line , yes it cost more now but the prices are not what use to be sooo this the new entry level price point for gaming just accept it XD and yes this is new card with warranty not some old gpu that may die any moment
@lukasdc9852
@lukasdc9852 2 года назад
Is 1650 worse than 6500
@Iamdad1903
@Iamdad1903 2 года назад
Thanks for the review, I was thinking of putting one in my daughters PC which currently has a 2200g with intergrated graphics. All other reviewers saying it’s not got this or that but it has to be better than the 2200g right?
@nothing.mp3
@nothing.mp3 2 года назад
If you don't plan on streaming/broadcasting games there's nothing wrong with this GPU at MSRP. Believe it or not some of us don't dream of making it big as a twitch streamer.
@99Teutons
@99Teutons 2 года назад
In my country the RTX 3050 sells for almost twice the price of 6500XT This is a great option for budget gamers but i do feel AMD skimped A LOT more than necessary Like having pcieX4 instead of X8 or X16 The problem with this approach is that you can no longer use an old platform if you want to use the full potential of the card Which make it a card that's meant for budget builds but in order to use the full potential of the card you have to buy newer platform which doesn't fit well with the "budget GPU" claims of this card
@rboizz5616
@rboizz5616 2 года назад
I am almost certain they did this so the price of the card wouldn't sky rocket
@ianlingam281
@ianlingam281 2 года назад
We are still using Pcie x16 slot for the gpu but preferably on the newer Pcie 4.0 port. You may encounter fps drop using an old Pcie 3.0 port i.e our older existing mobo's Pcie.
@bosulicaq7518
@bosulicaq7518 2 года назад
To me the rtx 3050 is around to 400€ and Rx6500xt 200€
@sr.chi7741
@sr.chi7741 2 года назад
@@ianlingam281 It's not even a huge deal. In most games the rx 6500 xt on pcie 3.0 performs better than a 1650 gddr6.
@emak2999
@emak2999 Год назад
In Italy RX 6500 cost 1/4 of 3050 lol
@SJ-ty8gb
@SJ-ty8gb 2 года назад
Basically coming from something like a GTX 1050 ti or a GTX 750 ti and with a very small budget the RX 6500 XT at MSRP is a viable option for lots of people. It's way better than a GTX 1050 ti and doesn't even cost as much as a second hand GTX 1650 super. It's still available at MSRP and comes with a 3 year warranty unlike any second hand card you buy. All the better off people who can afford to spend £300 - £500 or more on a GPU good luck to them but lots of people can't afford it and this card is an option for them.
@Manjaro81
@Manjaro81 2 года назад
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@ianmarkhammes2071
@ianmarkhammes2071 Год назад
yes
@arcticowl1091
@arcticowl1091 10 месяцев назад
The 6500XT is not a great option at all, the 4x pcie lanes severely limit performance on pcie 3.0, which is what most people have who are shopping at this pricepoint. Pcie 4.0 is only on newer mobos which are often half the cost of this GPU.
@Arcanomist
@Arcanomist 7 месяцев назад
​@@arcticowl1091i agree, imo rx5500xt is a better option, you get almost the amount of performance with double the vram, albeit it's just a tad bit expensive in my country, but still a better option than 6500xt
@stolenchaser
@stolenchaser 4 месяца назад
this gpu sucks, the gtx 1060 is faster than this- why are we defending this gpu??
@aaron_333
@aaron_333 2 года назад
We wanted a budget graphics card with the same features as a GPU that was launched in the past 5 years. Cutting out h264, h265 and AV1 video encode and AV1 decode was a big mistake.
@eazen
@eazen 2 года назад
It seems it can encode 1080 and possibly 1440o h264. But has to be confirmed, tested. The AMD website only says it can not do 4K h264. Edit: no, the AMD website is just weird.
@andrewmcewan9145
@andrewmcewan9145 2 года назад
Av1 is only decode on higher tier cards and only on rx 6000 and rtx 3000 series. As much as you think people use encode. Alot of people dont.
@niks660097
@niks660097 2 года назад
@@eazen no encoding capability whatsoever, only decode
@petervansan1054
@petervansan1054 2 года назад
they didn't cut it per se, it was made without it because it's laptop GPU repurposed for desktop. Why have h264 encoding when APU next to it has it? Same reason why it is 4 lanes because APU next to it has pcie 4
@eazen
@eazen 2 года назад
@Peter Vansan the main reason is energy savings and more lanes for other things. If the GPU only uses 4, you can use the remainder for other things.
@kagato82
@kagato82 2 года назад
I picked up the Sapphire Pulse 6500xt yesterday for $199. It will serve it's purpose in my parents' prebuilt pc. They don't game hardly at all, but if my son is visiting and he wants to do some light gaming on some less demanding titles, then he'll have that option.
@dokkstigvel8944
@dokkstigvel8944 2 года назад
They don't make a Nitro version of the 6500XT
@kagato82
@kagato82 2 года назад
@@dokkstigvel8944 you're right. I meant Pulse. Didn't even notice that I typed nitro. Thanks for correcting.
@ACSMezz101
@ACSMezz101 2 года назад
Just because it's available doesn't mean you should buy it, the gpu it's replacing (5500xt) is better in everyway.
@K1ngDrako
@K1ngDrako 2 года назад
This seems more like a paid video than saying how it really is
@boshumok6399
@boshumok6399 2 года назад
So then if a person finds a 5500XT at the same price, they should get the 5500XT... but how much more will the 5500XT really cost?
@HondoJarrus
@HondoJarrus 2 года назад
And good luck getting the 5500xt at $250 US
@miweneia
@miweneia 2 года назад
@@K1ngDrako I certainly wouldn't put it past AMD to pay him to say good things about the card.
@miweneia
@miweneia 2 года назад
@@HondoJarrus I mean good luck getting the 6500xt for 250 usd too lol, only reason you might find it at this price point is because its total garbage and not many people will buy it. As for the 5500xt, there are some listings on ebay starting from 250 usd bid and 350 usd buyout, so its not impossible.
@christopherlee3977
@christopherlee3977 2 года назад
If your argument really hinges on "It's better than a used RX580 because WARRANTY!" then maybe your contacts might be a bit too rose-tinted. At MSRP, it was a fair enough deal but at the inflated prices I've been seeing just save up and get the 6600...at least then you won't be trying to unload a card that has no value in 4-6 months to upgrade again. It's e-waste.
@ThanhLai5
@ThanhLai5 2 года назад
I'll choose 6600 over 6500 any day of the week, if I can't afford higher than 6600.
@AniHajderaj
@AniHajderaj 2 года назад
Zach likes this cus it's cheap and he can charge a mark up when selling his builds with it let's be real
@jesusbarrera6916
@jesusbarrera6916 2 года назад
this is 270 at newegg..... the 6600 is whatever the ebay seller says it is
@christopherlee3977
@christopherlee3977 2 года назад
Scalper gonna scalp...if that's your only option then my sympathies. I can go to my local Micro Center and grab a 6500xt for ~$260-300 or a 6600 for ~$470-500. Oddly enough, local MC shows they've got some RX560s in stock for under $200, which is still probably a better buy than this.
@TheSuperFryingPan
@TheSuperFryingPan 2 года назад
What inflated prices? Both $200 models of the 6500 XT were available on newegg today. Maybe for every other graphics card you can only get them off of ebay if you didn't buy one the exact second it was released, but this card is being restocked at retailers without marking up the price.
@danieljongepier7473
@danieljongepier7473 2 года назад
This is actually ideal to pair with a AMD G series cpu because it has the gpu with encoders onboard. Also, I got mine second hand around €90.
@beastatkhd6293
@beastatkhd6293 Год назад
That’s a great price, I would get that for a budget build
@akis5048
@akis5048 4 месяца назад
i totally agree same case here i had a 2018 prebuild with a ryzen 3 2200g and i put in the 6500xt and had a blast
@teeboh99
@teeboh99 2 года назад
While it always great to see a content creator go against the crowd and challenge pre-conception. This is a bad take, the fact that a card in the same performance group released 5 years ago can go blow for blow in performance (and win in features out of the box) with a card released in 2022 is a literal joke. It’s market exploitation at its most egregious. As we all know MSRP is a fairytale, so this will go for even more and AMD knows it. Compare the price it will actually go for vs the price the RX 580 went for when it released and you have a clearer picture of how AMD, NVIDIA, Intel will always choose to exploit the market whenever the opportunity presents itself. Buying this card shows them that we’re happy with them doing that, and this will encourage them to do whatever they can to make sure this market state stays the same (similar story for diamonds, it’s all forced artificial scarcity). You should never recommend such a product or suggest for people to settle for so little, if they do, this “scarcity” will continue for a decade or more
@AlistairMaxwell77
@AlistairMaxwell77 2 года назад
it isnt 5 years ago . time marches forward . prices have changed . they are not going back . if you want a card that blows away 2018 cards open your wallet. your not going to get it for 200$ .
@teeboh99
@teeboh99 2 года назад
@@AlistairMaxwell77 I understand that, but because the market is messed up doesn’t mean we should support it. I understand why some people might go for this card, but the reviewer framing it as a “good” card is the worst take I’ve seen during this shortage
@HondoJarrus
@HondoJarrus 2 года назад
@@teeboh99 Sadly the days of getting a 'decent' card for $200 new are likely over, support it or not.
@AlistairMaxwell77
@AlistairMaxwell77 2 года назад
@@teeboh99 its not "the market" . the global economy has entered an inflationary cycle . everything is going up will not go back down . inflation will compound year upon year until the cycle is finished . I can complain I can't get a Toyota for what they cost in 2019 and "not support it" , but sooner or later I will need to buy another car . mining will take the sting out of some of the pricing of some of the cards , but your going to pay probably twice as much for high demand consumer electronics as you did before the start of this cycle . the time of 100-150 gpu's for this level card will never return .
@lewislu5157
@lewislu5157 2 года назад
still got batches on and off at msrp in US and in au and nz 6500xt are still available at msrp, so ur take pretending this msrp is like nvidia is just wrong
@yashsingh693
@yashsingh693 Год назад
I am running currently on a i7 4790 CPU with 16 GB of RAM and I think this RX 6500XT seems to be a best budget option in India as in the Price range of Rs. 10k - 13k, I am hardly able to find a card like this online. For temporary solutions, this card would be a better option than going for a 1650 Low Profile one.
@DrZoomer
@DrZoomer 2 года назад
I agree that I don’t think this card will be as inflated in pricing as the 3050, so it will definitely be the best option for budget gamers that aren’t wanting to test the used market. However, the same thing that limits its mining potential is the one that is going to limit its gaming potential, even at 1080p, as shown by the CoD benchmarks; the 4gb of VRAM. If they added even just 2gb more, that helps with performance so much, but then again it becomes more valuable for mining and thus would be inflated more. I think for $200 it’s a fine new purchase, but anything more than $250 and I don’t think it’s worth it.
@ZachsTechTurf
@ZachsTechTurf 2 года назад
Yep, definitely some downfalls of this card, absolutely.
@hardwaredynasty
@hardwaredynasty 2 года назад
So correct me if I'm wrong, at $300, you'd go with a used rx580 as a better alternative? Maybe a Bstock 2060? Obviously if you were willing to go used and not creating content.
@DrZoomer
@DrZoomer 2 года назад
@@hardwaredynasty Personally i would go for a 1070, not hard to find at that $300 price point used.
@georgepierre3594
@georgepierre3594 2 года назад
IT's just a rx580 with RNDA 2 technology basically, for people who dont wanna risk on a used card like a rx580, and old technology.
@chuckthomas1872
@chuckthomas1872 2 года назад
the 1650 Super is 4gb and kills this card, everyone takes too much stock in V-ram. most weaker cards can not use it effectively
@methodmantis3060
@methodmantis3060 2 года назад
I like and respect Zach very, very much. That being said, I don't think I could disagree any more strongly. I do NOT lay any of the blame on Zach regarding any part of the craziness that has taken over the entire GPU market in the last couple of years, but I do think that opinions like his may be propagating, and even proving the effectiveness of, an enormous marketing push across the entire market to gaslight the average consumer into expecting that they should have to pay way more money for way less performance than what current gen tech is able to deliver. I think it's somewhat dangerous, on the consumer level, once we get to the point where we look at what the 6500XT is and how it performs (as well as any other card to come out in the last two year compared to its market price) and we begin to accept that as 'normal' and as 'just the way it is'. People with enough disposable income that buying the newest or biggest of everything is easy for them is one thing, but the boom in crypto prices is the exception, not the rule. That and all of the other supply/demand variables that have come into play to create the perfect storm for GPU pricing. Those values as well as the GPU prices that go up and down along with them as long as there are suckers who continue buying in, will ALWAYS rise and fall as long as GPUs are able to mine with. But if GPU manufacturers/distributors truly have their way, they will convince as many people as possible that less performance for more money is how it's 'supposed to be'. That way they can just drive prices way up on ALL GPUs, ALL of the time and make those huge, inflated profits ALL of the time and not just when crypto is up and there are new cards released
@vMaxHeadroom
@vMaxHeadroom 2 года назад
Well said! One only needs to look at the RECORD profits at AMD and Nvidia to understand how we are being manipulated right now!
@lc744
@lc744 2 года назад
Exactly a perfect example of this is intel before ryzen showed up
@abesmissioncontrol2013
@abesmissioncontrol2013 2 года назад
Problem is, the boom in crypto prices has lasted for 2 years now, which is a long time in tech-speak. At some point it isn't an exception any more.
@billlawson3467
@billlawson3467 2 года назад
From my take, Zach is just giving his current take of the card in the current market right now, not the future. His points are valid. People are buying the GT 710s and 1030s. People have the option to buy or not. AMD and NVIDIA both know that at some point the crypto bubble using gpus will burst and the supply of cards will flood the market. Their sales will go down and prices adjust. Of course inflation could get worse and none of this will matter because you can't afford anything. Got to remember it is all relative.
@user-db4lk7yg3o
@user-db4lk7yg3o 2 года назад
The crypto boom has been going for a long time and who knows when it'll stop, gpu prices are trending upwards inevitably for the foreseeable future. This is the way things are for now. 🤷‍♂️
@LeoJGym
@LeoJGym 2 года назад
It's not worth anymore than $150, yet here we are. There are far more negatives to this card than positives. It's worse at doing what it needs to do than cards from 2 or even 3 generations ago.
@SHSPVR
@SHSPVR 2 года назад
more like $130
@zjunk4877
@zjunk4877 2 года назад
Considering it struggles to match $200 cards from years ago I'd barely even call it $150. It simply shouldn't exist and they should have continued making 5xxx cards.
@jihunjang6684
@jihunjang6684 2 года назад
more like $10
@legendp2011
@legendp2011 2 года назад
unfortunately I've seen gt1030 go for $130, I would rather pay 200 for this than $130 for a gt 1030. gpu prices are screwed, and I think this will actually hit it's $199 msrp (becuase it's terrible for scalpers and miners)
@SHSPVR
@SHSPVR 2 года назад
@@legendp2011 You better try again scalpers have already jack the price north of $400 but Newegg still has them for $270 in stock good luck with getting one for MSRP.
@Beary98
@Beary98 2 года назад
I was buying rx 580s for $80 repeatedly on ebay in the summer of 2019. This card is gaslighting embodied.
@DanielLopez-qh6ji
@DanielLopez-qh6ji 2 года назад
$85 gtx 970 as well...
@shanez1215
@shanez1215 2 года назад
In August 2020 I found a 480 4GB for just 75 bucks used
@wpelfeta
@wpelfeta 2 года назад
Yeah just let me get out my time machine to go back to 2019
@rosswrld1143
@rosswrld1143 2 года назад
The golden days of PC building were nice. IMO after artificial inflation hits this card, it will cost $400 in retail stores. That's the same price i build an entire ryzen 3 3100, rx 580 gaming rig for in 2019 after taking advantage of what was a great used market for gpus. The market is pretty sad nowadays.
@SoylentGamer
@SoylentGamer 2 года назад
In 2019 the world wasn't being shut down and we weren't suffering from the highest inflation in decades. The market is fucked, it's not AMD's fault, it's not the AIB's fault.
@theslenderdevil
@theslenderdevil 2 года назад
i been looking this card today after seeing at 185 i'm on a super budget, last year upgraded to a b450 pro4 motherboard and a ryzen 3 3200g just for intergrated graphic card just incase my r7 370 graphics card died it's gotta be pushing 10 years old now i've replaced thermal paste on it still holding in there playing games like ark survival evovled long as i lock it at 30fps but it's pushing temps of 75c-80c and loaded up eve online other day omg it was pushing 85c i was okay it's time to upgrade if i can't play eve online so my question to you is is this worth it for me to upgrade my income is well few dollars a day doing surveys and second life stuff cashing out to paypal so i'm very tight budget but i'll get there will my processor hold me back a ton ? if so if i get this card should i just upgrad eto a ryzen 5 and will my board support this card and ryzen 5?
@SeminarChauffeur
@SeminarChauffeur Год назад
Crazy question Zach, have you tried it on a Gen 2 PCIE system just for the lols? I have an old gen 2 system myself and am tight on budget right now, if I buy this card it will be a few months before I can recover enough funds to upgrade my system to a PCIE Gen 4; I want to get this GPU first because prices in my country are quite unstable recently. If its performance in 2.0 is still not as bad as in 3.0 I am fine with its downsides until I can upgrade to a modern Gen 4 system. Thanks!
@storyanaksekolah2
@storyanaksekolah2 2 года назад
the limited support for video encoding is deal breaker for me. i want a budget gpu to play game and editing. if you just want is for gaming purposez this card should be good for the price
@rodrigoa1990
@rodrigoa1990 2 года назад
Yes, it's the budget card that people have been asking for. However, it is worth it tho? I'd say no. At 200 USD that AMD claimed to be MSRP initially, yes.. But at 300-350 USD, it's a hard pass for me. I'd rather save some more money and buy a better one
@benjamin7563
@benjamin7563 2 года назад
It is 200 tho
@user-db4lk7yg3o
@user-db4lk7yg3o 2 года назад
there were actually consumer end cards for 199 dollars, and they were in stock for a little bit, but they are now out of stock
@evacody1249
@evacody1249 2 года назад
Them blame ASUS, MSI, Powercolor, etc for that one.
@kyledenio1258
@kyledenio1258 2 года назад
Literally bought one this morning for 199
@sh0dn
@sh0dn 2 года назад
See them selling in Russia with MSRP +5% maybe price. Since all other stuff cost way higher (even 1050ti was priced 30% higher) I think this is pretty much great deal. And that's why it was sold rly fast.
@flp900
@flp900 2 года назад
Eu entendo o seu ponto. Mas mesmo assim a amd deveria ter lançado com 8gb de vram, mesmo que isso custasse mais caro. Boa parte dos problemas seriam amenizados. Amd tinha muitas opções: pcie 3.0 8x, não dar suporte a ray tracing, 8 gb de ram, etc....
@nolimit4853
@nolimit4853 2 года назад
First review I saw with some fps results in Apex legends , Call of duty Vanguard/warzone and Helo infinity(the only 3 games I play on pc) with my 950 oc edition still..I must say the card don't disappoint me..110fps on high settings and 1080p in apex would be around 140fps on competitive settings that's not bad for a card of that price . Specially if you know I reach only between 50 and 70 fps on my gtx950oc.. Warzone/vanguard , a nice 80fps isn't to bad and helo above 60 is the less but still a decent playable fps , I can't even run hello with my 2gb card right now, so for me personally with the high prices on the market I think it would be a nice upgrade till the prices go down a bit again..
@spektrumB
@spektrumB 2 года назад
I play F1 2021. This card can do 95fps for high settings and 110fps for medium. So for $200, it isn't a bad deal for me.
@brianfairbank6178
@brianfairbank6178 Год назад
Well, 8 months later the card is still a viable choice. I just bought 10 off AMZ to build a 10 station computer lab for a private residential community, for $170/ea.. For casual use they are great, but still have enough performance to bang out modern game titles and stream at 1080p.
@Qassu78
@Qassu78 2 года назад
Absolute horendous and stupid card even for an entry level card.
@DM-20XX
@DM-20XX 2 года назад
Since this have been tested with a CPU with integrated Radeon Vega Graphics, Can you game in this GPU and stream using the Integrated Graphics for encoding video? Or in general, use the encoders / decoders of the iGPU to workaround the cutdown GPU card? (In the middle of this shortage, any idea that works...)
@sgr777
@sgr777 2 года назад
I really liked your point that budget gamers don't really play at ultra settings. They just need budget card. And luckily in my country it is available around MSRP (200-220). I was waiting for a card just to play some games don't mind medium or high. 3050 is around 500 here so if 3050 doesn't go below 400, then I'll buy that 6500xt for the time being. ( I'm not a hardcore gamer but a casual gamer). Thanks for your honest review.
@SilVaFx
@SilVaFx 2 года назад
I got an RX 6500XT and honestly I'm actually glad. I had a GT 1030 (2020 revision) and it was super crap. My rig can run the x264 encoder for streaming off of the cpu with no issues, so that's also not a big deal, and the 3D renders I need for work come out super fast with really high resolution And for gaming, it handled everything I want at 144fps So yeah, the rx is not a bad card, even if it is PCi x8, it's pretty good with thise 2.8GHz of clock speed Summarizing, i recommend the RX 6500XT for those who need a newer card. It's not the best but it does it's job very well + it's not as expensive since "no one" wants it.
@7Dope
@7Dope 2 года назад
Same people see this card and think bad of it I have the RX 6500 XT pcie 4 and u run good graphics on apex, Val, fn, cod and they all run amazing in terms of fps and graphics video recording is smooth but definitely get pcie4 if ur going to get the card
@ChrisD__
@ChrisD__ 2 года назад
Wait does it work with Cycles in Blender 3.1?
@xzoner1x955
@xzoner1x955 2 года назад
@@7Dope what’s your pc build? Sorry I want to build my own pc and I want to start with this graphics card. I herd it’s bad and it’s good and idk what to do lmao
@xzoner1x955
@xzoner1x955 2 года назад
what’s your pc build? Sorry I want to build my own pc and I want to start with this graphics card. I herd it’s bad and it’s good and idk what to do lmao
@7Dope
@7Dope 2 года назад
@@xzoner1x955 look my build is a Ryzen 5 5600x RX 6500 xt 1 TB SSD and a b550-f wifi gaming motherboard but j suggest save some money because 8 GB gpus are going to go down in price since the 40 series are coming out
@IdeasAreBulletproof
@IdeasAreBulletproof 2 года назад
Even though I have my own opinions on the card by *It doesn't have to be cutting edge* I can't blame you for stating the good sides of the card ie: Placeholder or for someone who just wants to finish their gaming PC. But as an alternative If you are weary by the limitations your probably better off getting a 1650 super or a Rx 5500xt
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 2 года назад
"If you are weary by the limitations your probably better off getting a 1650 super or a Rx 5500xt" Of course, but getting a GTX 1650 Super or RX 5500 XT in good condition at a similar price to an RX 6500 XT is easier said than done.
@kavindudissanayaka798
@kavindudissanayaka798 2 года назад
6500xt on pcie 4 is better than 1660super
@christianolea2181
@christianolea2181 Месяц назад
Thanks for making videos that we budget ballers can relate too lol. Question, for around the same price range which would you recommend, the arc a580 or the 6500xt 8gb variant from asrock? I think PowerColor also makes a 8gb 6500xt. Both of these gpu’s are around $160-$180 on Newegg.
@IdeasAreBulletproof
@IdeasAreBulletproof 2 года назад
Plus You could get around the DP or HDMI splitter to have more monitors even though the bandwidth won't support 4k 144hz that probably ain't needed if your running more then 2 1080p 60 or 144/165hz monitors
@brianhermans9181
@brianhermans9181 2 года назад
Its already listed in the Netherlands for 399€ so 452 dollar and on a retailers website...
@ZFPAkula
@ZFPAkula 2 года назад
If all you got is a Ryzen APU then the 6500 XT is going to be a big jump in performance. The card is only an upgrade if you had no GFX card to begin with.
@dmugas4989
@dmugas4989 2 года назад
can you help me to decide, i’m planning to build my first rig i3 12th gen, b660m mobo, what gpu do you recommend a budget gpu, not expensive as 3050 and not cheap as 1050ti. my head aches to decide which i gonna buy if a gtx 1650 or this 6500xt?, thankyouu in advanced!
@hashbienazraynazariniebinm7262
@hashbienazraynazariniebinm7262 2 месяца назад
Rx580 or gtx1660 super, they're really cheap in the used market
@sublime2craig
@sublime2craig 2 года назад
Please people help me with some advice on my new build! So this is what I have, Asus Strix Rog B-550F with PCIE 4.0, Ryzen 5 5600 (not the g or X version), 16gb G Skill Rip Jaws V 3600 CL18 Ram, 1tb Sk Hynix Gold PCIE 3.0 NVME SSD, and a 600w EVGA BQ PSU. I need a GPU, due to my R9 280x having some VRAM errors and being added to the legacy graveyard 🪦. I am only gaming in 1080p and nothing higher than that for the foreseeable future, so is the 6500xt a good option for me or should I pay literally double for the 6600 non xt? The 6500xt is actually going for $20 over MSRP on Amazon right now and the 6600 is a about $100 over MSRP at this moment so I really want something in the meantime until mid to high tier GPU prices come back close to MSRP.
@bobmaxjohn1306
@bobmaxjohn1306 2 года назад
6500 xt is a option but it would probably be worth spending more on 6600 and getting one for $350 on Amazon
@sublime2craig
@sublime2craig 2 года назад
@@bobmaxjohn1306 Thanks for the advice, after looking a little harder for a 6600 on amazon I found an MSI MECH model for only $339! Only $10 over MSRP!!! Not bad for literally double the performance over the 6500xt...
@dexter2433
@dexter2433 2 года назад
ordered one for $199 off Newegg today sold and shipped by Newegg and I sold my 1650 4 gig on ebay last year for $300 and this card is on par with a 1660 in performance so yes for a actual $200 card you can buy today that in allot of games beat my 1070 8 gig at 1080p AMD did awesome and i am already seeing other cards drop in price because of it like the 1660s and such (this is a budget gaming only card )
@rosswrld1143
@rosswrld1143 2 года назад
Zach is definitely a glass half full type of guy. People don't want just a budget graphics card. People want a DECENT budget graphics card at a price that makes sense. This is not a solution to anything imo. Once artificial inflation hits this card (which it will in the current gpu market regardless of crypto performance due to overly high demand and limited supply), the price to performance will make absolutely no sense. This card gets outperformed by a 1650 super, and it will probably cost about $400 in retail stores. (The cheapest you can find a 6600 right now realistically is between $500 and $550, which is why i think the 6500xt will be inflated to $400). 1650 supers on the used market already exist at that $400 price, they just dont make sense to buy due to 4GB of vram and overall bad price to performance, which will make this card even less sensible to buy at that price. I do hope im wrong about the price, but i doubt it. There's absolutely no reason to be optimistic about the gpu market right now. The card would make sense for $200-250. I think you'd be making a mistake buying this card for around $400 which will likely be the price on it imo after inflation.
@pajamaphoebs939
@pajamaphoebs939 2 года назад
The thing is no one can buy a decent budget card nowadays without paying double. Unless you are talking about AMD direct buy but it's always OOS. This card is not for everyone yes, it's for those who want to buy brand new instead of used ones from Kijiji. If this card is decent then you will have to probably pay $400 for it which is insane.
@rosswrld1143
@rosswrld1143 2 года назад
@@pajamaphoebs939 there were aftermarket versions of the card sold for $370 on release day. It like every other gpu that has been released recently sold out in seconds. Also just based on what comparable 4GB cards are selling for on the used market (1650 supers, gtx 980s, rx 580s, etc.), it'll be artificially inflated to at least $400 retail and on the used market. That's what you can expect to pay barring some miracle that you actually were able to purchase it for its original retail price.
@jesusbarrera6916
@jesusbarrera6916 2 года назад
@@rosswrld1143 you can get this card for 270 at newegg right now.... it was hit much less than the rest of all GPUs
@rosswrld1143
@rosswrld1143 2 года назад
@@jesusbarrera6916 yeah im baffled that its staying in stock at its msrp. Hadn't seen a graphics card do that in a couple of years now. As i said in the original reply to the video, the card makes sense in todays market at its msrp. I just was almost certain that it would get artificially inflated. I was hoping to be wrong about the inflation, and im pleasantly surprised that I am.
@Midori_Ringo
@Midori_Ringo 2 года назад
@@rosswrld1143 easy explanation - Who actually wants this? miners don't want it. High end gamers don't want it, Mid range gamers don't want it. It's too expensive for low end gaming. Anyone who has a mid range card and higher from around 2 generations ago (maybe even 3) to present gen is almost 99.99% better off sticking with what they have. Scalpers are the only ones buying. I'm on a 1070 and I'm not touching this. PC Enthusiasts are desperate but they're not that stupid to throw money at a card that's worse in every way than a previous gen. The only ones that want this are new system builders and people who only buy new. That's not a big market. I shudder to think how awful the even more budget version of this - the 6400 is going to be.
@carlnauwelaerts4802
@carlnauwelaerts4802 2 года назад
Having no AV1 decode, what does that mean actually? Does it mean you won't be able to watch youtube or Netflix in the future? Or does it mean your CPU will have to do the work with software decode, so your pc will consume lot more power? I am trying to find out this: Say you're a consumer who does not need the encoding stuff because you don't record videos - is the missing AV1 decode actually a real problem? I guess Photoshop and Lightroom won' be using AV1 for photo-editing...
@artiistrefi5041
@artiistrefi5041 2 года назад
I have a question on a budget gpu can you recommend me one i was thinking of : 1050 Ti 4gb Rx 570 4gb 1060 3gb or maybe 6gb or if you have any other suggestions please recommend me my budget is 150-170$ max
@slayerem
@slayerem 2 года назад
my honest opinion (I am looking to build a new medium budget pc .. 1300 - 1500$), this card will gather dust on the shelves of any retailer who will sell over MSRP... it barely deserves the 200$ price tag, paying 350 - 400$ for it it's crazy to me, especially since there should be no miners buying it to inflate prices, this time, if it does go 50 or 100% over MSRP it's strictly because of retailers.
@spektrumB
@spektrumB 2 года назад
There are stupid models of 6500XT that charges $349. But you can easily find cheaper models that is $260, or sometimes at $200. I think if someone can get it for ~$200. It is acceptable for a budget build.
@PiaDoBan
@PiaDoBan 2 года назад
I get the point that it's a budget graphics card, but for me, there is a difference between Budget and entry level, a budget PC is not a super powerful machine, but also isn't a cheap machine that barely runs games from 8 years ago, a Budget PC is a machine with reasonable price that's able to perform well not just today, but a few years ahead, no one has money to pay 200 Dollars on graphics card today that in 6 months will need to upgraded wasting 350+ again, most people are still using gen 3 pcie, and for them to upgrade it just to be able to use the maximum power of that card is more expensive than the card it self, a graphics card that can't even use it's resources, why this card has Ray accelerator if it can't run ray tracing? Wouldn't be better to not use ray accelerators that just make it more expensive and increase the PCIe connection?
@BurningUp99
@BurningUp99 2 года назад
The 6500XT can play AC : Valhalla ...the bottom line is for under 300.00 bucks you can't be too picky. Unless you're willing to spend 600.00 - 900.00 bucks right up front you're going to be doing small upgrades over time regardless. I sold a Radeon 5700 8GB for almost $900.00. The question is when do you decide to enter the game and at what price point....then when do you decide to upgrade. The 6 month timeline is actually smart because 4GB cards are going to start to decline in value sooner rather than later. 6500XT is a safe purchase but I wouldn't hang on to it for longer than 6 months probably. Newer cards are easier to resell especially when you have the retail box and everything. A 6500XT will be easier to resell 6 months from now than some dude trying to sell some 8 year old card that looks beat up and doesn't come with any of the retail packaging.
@GExquizite
@GExquizite Год назад
Guys I need your advice. I'm planning on building my own Gaming/Productivity PC. I'm not a heavy gamer tho, I only play Valorant and Genshin Impact. Should i go with the 6500 XT? Or any 1660 Super?. BTW my CPU/Mobo combo is Ryzen 5600g/MSI B550M Pro VDH Wifi. Thanks!
@mattix3705
@mattix3705 2 года назад
the thing about companies like nvidia and amd that really makes me mad is dropping support for still not too bad cards during this time where prices are extreme. an r9 fury x gets 20 fps in halo infinite without modded drivers. and getting modded drivers on older cards may cause problems with anti cheat software in some games. there is still so much performance in unsupported cards but they drop support allthough no one is able to get a new card. and then they're giving us something like an rx 6500XT.
@TopHatCat1989
@TopHatCat1989 2 года назад
I think the RX 6500XT is more for the budget gamer, those that aren't willing to go onto the used GPU market. I bought the RX 570 8GB card back in 2019 because it was the best bang for the buck card I could find brand new locally at the time, and so far it's been a real workhorse for me. It's held up well over the last couple of years in my Linux build, and with proper TLC it's going to last me long enough to save up for a new PC build. I'm going to keep my current rig, the only reason I'd get this new card is if my current GPU broke.
@ajlainez1944
@ajlainez1944 2 года назад
I bought this on sale and it’s literally just for me to game on and upgrade from my rx460 I needed something a bit better this answered my prayers one day once I’m out of college and not on such a tight budget I’ll get a high end card but right now this is perfect just for a year or two till I have better cash for a good build this is a budget card yet everyone hates it for being a budget card it makes no sense.
@elianzxd37
@elianzxd37 2 года назад
exactly, this GPU isn't worth the money...
@koto483
@koto483 2 года назад
Problem is that the market its targeting are mostly people with pcie 3.0 boards which greatly hinders its performance
@anon2036
@anon2036 2 года назад
No one fully informed about tech and in their right mind would buy this over an Rx 480 at 100 - 200 dollars. Hell, it was 75 dollars at one point.
@Psychooable
@Psychooable 2 года назад
@@anon2036 Why would someone in their right mind pay 200 for a piece of tech that has been used for 6 years?
@05DonnieB
@05DonnieB 2 года назад
The problem with this card is that for the same price and 5 years ago you could get the same performance. The card it's replacing in the 5500XT is better and offered 8GB of Vram. Luckily I'm not in the market for any new pc parts as I bought mine at the very last time msrp existed in late 2020.
@brokeandtired
@brokeandtired 2 года назад
Its worse...my Series S has more CU's (20 vs 16) and I can get a WHOLE console that will last 6/7 years for the retail price of what this card will sell for...Really this card is for the desperate or people with dying GPU's as a replacement. Luckily for me I retro RTS game on my i5 3470 so I can cope with onboard GPU for that.
@jesusbarrera6916
@jesusbarrera6916 2 года назад
@@brokeandtired consoles have always been cheaper per price, that is no surprise
@AsianT0uch
@AsianT0uch 2 года назад
5 years ago was a different time..
@dexter2433
@dexter2433 2 года назад
actually this card is selling for $199 on Newegg just bought one and already seeing other cards sold by scalpers going down ....dose not look purity but I think it was a good move for AMD and budget gamers on a tight budget and for getting young kids up and running at 1080p when before they were stuck with IGPU
@the_wiki9408
@the_wiki9408 2 года назад
It's not 5 years ago. I could also get a better car for less money 5 years ago. I could buy a much bigger house for the same money 5 years ago. I don't like it either, but it's a different world.
@andystech101
@andystech101 2 года назад
What does the *testing done with gen3 mean is that all cards? It’s not clear? Is the 6600 on gen3? When there’s a * and no *next to anything it doesn’t make things clear?
@gustavocampos5226
@gustavocampos5226 2 года назад
Is it possible to do this GPU with a Ryzen 3 2200g and b550 motherboard? Or i need to upgrade the cpu in orther to use pcie 4 0?
@mrsxber1916
@mrsxber1916 2 года назад
Loved your take on this Zach. so many people are so worked up and picky about the fact that the card is not so powerful and feature-packed when they are forgetting the underlying problem.... WE DONT HAVE GRAPHICS CARDS......ANYWHERE!!!! for a decent price at least
@danielbarnes3406
@danielbarnes3406 2 года назад
That's the only real market for this card - people without one because they are building a new system or an old card died.
@ziggy2377
@ziggy2377 2 года назад
@@danielbarnes3406 Exactly the point to why we need this card..
@KimBoKastekniv47
@KimBoKastekniv47 2 года назад
You've made no compelling argument as to why everybody else is wrong. This and the GDDR4 GT 1030 is AMD/Nvidia testing the waters at anti-consumer business practices.
@shadow1021
@shadow1021 2 года назад
Did we watch the same video? he made many good points like : its the cheapest thing available, its in stock, its only $200, you cant even buy a 5 year old card for this cost, it uses 1/2 the power of rx580. its gen 3 speed is not as bad as its made out to be.
@davideloi9176
@davideloi9176 2 года назад
@@shadow1021 In Europe the price is above 300 €.
@DepthsOfHell98
@DepthsOfHell98 2 года назад
@@shadow1021 $200 in the fantasy land.
@shadow1021
@shadow1021 2 года назад
@@DepthsOfHell98 I bought 5 for $255 tax and shipping included.
@justgamer4785
@justgamer4785 Год назад
@@shadow1021 gtx 1070 ti can be had for 170 which is much faster
@indomieforlife
@indomieforlife Год назад
Got this card in October 2022 for around 155 USD, Can't be any more happier!, paired with my several gen older 3200g it runs everything pretty well, it'll run any game I throw at it until the point I realized I need to upgrade my CPU because it's no longer keeping up with the 6500xt 😂 people are hating because they got spoiled with higher end gpus and not realizing where this card sits and the needs of its buyers, I know that if it has the video encoder it'll be in a much better position but even without it, the 6500xt still brings very good performance to the table. *planning to upgrade to an i3 12100/f because it seems to be a good path *even now (early november 2022) rtx 3050s are still about twice the price of the 6500xt if not more (in my country)
@danytoob
@danytoob 2 года назад
So I woke up this morning and just wanted to see if any were available, checked the Egg first and the Powercolor version was still listed ($279) so I actually bought one, arrives tomorrow. But after all the universally pretty poor reviews I likely won't even open the box. I do need to upgrade (wasn't looking to try to turn a profit) and was truly hoping this would be better... but likely will just list it ... and probably just about break even after ebay/paypal fees. Sigh. Crazy times.
@RichardBrooklyn
@RichardBrooklyn 2 года назад
Play button where Zach actually gets to the point: Never... I gave up waiting for him to actually make his point 🙄
@NuggetsXInfinite
@NuggetsXInfinite 2 года назад
like 4 minutes in he says it's a budget card you can get without resorting to the used market. That's pretty much it
@lfc1903
@lfc1903 2 года назад
He literally makes his point in the first sentence of the review, are you that impatient? Or did unit watch it?
@RichardBrooklyn
@RichardBrooklyn 2 года назад
@@lfc1903 No, he doesn't. He literally doesn't: "There's just so many reasons I'm happy about this graphics card and honestly, people are just looking at this the completely wrong way". That was the first sentence in the video. He then spends the next few minutes bleating on about his sponsors, and then just re-hashing the news that this card *exists* and just keeps saying he "likes it" without telling us WHY. The WHY is the point. The video's title is (as time of writing) "Why everyone is WRONG about the RX6500XT". I waited for several minutes to him to answer the "why". After that I gave up and made my comment after he constantly repeated himself and rehashed existing news. There is a reason this video was stretched to 10 minutes: It's clickbait and he needs it to be 10+ minutes otherwise the RU-vid algorithm doesn't promote his video. He could have literally made this 2 minutes long and been informative, but instead he decided to trick the audience so he can make more money. I have nothing against Zach earning a living, but not like this and I refuse to be a part of it. The more we reward BS and clickbait like this, the more it will spread. This was the first time I've ever watched Zach's content, and it will be the last. I don't like being "tricked" into wasting my time on a empty video and there are plenty of other tech RU-vidrs who will treat their audience with more respect than this. So maybe, instead of leaving passive aggressive comments to complete strangers, maybe consider that my point was actually accurate and I had a valid criticism, even if don't you agree with it.
@tquanbland1219
@tquanbland1219 2 года назад
@@RichardBrooklyn factsss
@Keepit10011
@Keepit10011 2 года назад
So an actual tech channel that's fighting for real consumers and looking at things analytically instead of being an emotional baby? Cudos. 👏
@youronlybro9708
@youronlybro9708 2 года назад
If he was fighting for consumers he wouldn't recommend this card....
@sultanalzabin6247
@sultanalzabin6247 2 года назад
budget is not getting a card for 250 dollar with similar performance to a 5 years old card. no matter how you try to justify it, this card is worth 150 dollars, 165 to be fair. people should not buy anything right now.
@Carrier-06
@Carrier-06 2 года назад
How does the 6500 XT compare to the RX 580 4gb Armor? I want to upgrade or atleast sidegrade.
@ilyasg2108
@ilyasg2108 2 года назад
Just picked one up yesterday for $200 exactly from micro center. I could not be more happy with it.
@spektrumB
@spektrumB 2 года назад
Same here. It's a solid 1080p medium setting cards. For $200 it isn't a bad deal.
@miker8205
@miker8205 2 года назад
1. sick build you've got there. really digging that AIO and now i'm going to spend an hour trying to find it. 2. I'll give you points for the click bait title. 3. Still a dumb graphics card and not worth it. Someone else said at $200 it's worth it, but i'll push back on that just a bit. At $150 I'll bite as a decent low to low-medium setting graphic card that gets people up and running. At $200 I expect a hell of a lot better performance than what I've seen so far from some of the charts. I'm not surprised that those games have high frame rates, this card is equivalent to a card that was made when they came out. For a card that came out in 2022, I don't expect to see 2015 performance. Not at $200 msrp and actual price at $300
@HolyDznzz
@HolyDznzz 2 года назад
I'm thinking of getting this card. It's a bit better in fps than a gtx 1650 but I just want to know is it good? Is it worth it? Or should I buy a different cheap card?
@camdengregory4423
@camdengregory4423 2 года назад
So I’m running an xfx 260 with a ryzen 7 5800x (I just got the processor in March) I’m wondering if it would be smart to buy this, or save for a 3060 or 3070? I was also looking at used 2070s, I’m looking to run warzone at 120+ fps btw
@travis-ic4kc
@travis-ic4kc 2 года назад
Consider looking at the 5500xt 8gb or 5600xt, better performance and none of the 6500xt drawbacks for the same price
@M.P.C.S
@M.P.C.S Год назад
Save for the rtx cards
@ashwinkoshti9991
@ashwinkoshti9991 2 года назад
so happy to se that my 4 yr old RX 570 can stream, well and can perform almost on par with 6500xt a 2022 card.
@amogusamogus8490
@amogusamogus8490 2 года назад
That should sadden you
@BurningUp99
@BurningUp99 2 года назад
They made the 6500XT because gamers wanted a card you could buy new in store for under 300.00. The RX 570 came out before video card prices skyrocketed
@mennootjeh4642
@mennootjeh4642 2 года назад
@Al fym?
@onioncontrol
@onioncontrol 2 года назад
I'm happy amd is making low end gpus again, but this thing is $200. I wish they'd just use gddr5 and made it more compatible with old processors at an msrp of $150-180.
@thebasicmaterialsproject1892
@thebasicmaterialsproject1892 2 года назад
hello from London - i absolutely agree with your review - in short the 4k encodes - but that's about it - i think you can put a 4k video capture card into the system and you will have the 4k encode - the difference i suppose is if you are using for adobe creative cloud and could do with a specialist 4k encode. Is the monitor amd freesync - I noticed that games like doom 5 out perform on the unit
@Gherkin8936
@Gherkin8936 2 года назад
I am running a music studio, no gaming at all, need dual monitor support, will this card do the job? Moreover will this card handle high quality wide monitors? My experience with PC components is worse than a noob
@martanek1082
@martanek1082 2 года назад
Finally someone who understand why this card come out 🥰😊
@Amarushaya92
@Amarushaya92 2 года назад
So basicly you say it's fine because it is cheap? It's the most expensive card in the 200-700 € range ( retail) in perspective on cost per frame. Why would you call that great? If i sell you a "budget" card for 50 bucks, but it can only run 10 fps would you still call that good ? Or what people have needed in this market ? Alot of people are waiting on a Upgrade in the budget market. But amd managed to Release a card wich gets demolished by budget Tier cards Form the last 3-5years and is still more expensive. But that is expected behaviour of some RU-vidr. Comin in like " jada jada jada , i want to have a controversial opinion, because of clicks jada jada jada, i dont care that literally everyone and thier mum came to a different conclusion "
@flushfire
@flushfire 2 года назад
In my country the only card you can buy for $200 is a 1050 ti. A 1650 is $280. 5500 xt and 1650 super are nowhere in stock. Let me ask you, if you really had to choose and both this and a 1050 ti were in stock for $200 which would you buy?
@Amarushaya92
@Amarushaya92 2 года назад
@@flushfire your doesn't matter, since it is not possible in this market. if a had to choose and would not already have one , i'd buy a 3080 for 700 bucks
@flushfire
@flushfire 2 года назад
@@Amarushaya92 See? dodged the question. Nothing more needs to be said.
@Amarushaya92
@Amarushaya92 2 года назад
@@flushfire even for 200 bucks on pcie 3.0 this is one of the most expensive cards on cost per frame . So no, you should not buy it. The 1050ti is literally the only card which is worse. Anything in else is better value. Specially on the used market. Also he benchmarked the 6500xt against the 6600 wich was terrible value to begin with . Everything he did was to make the card Look good to be able to have a different oppinion on the topic for clicks. the reason why i did not answer your question is, because we dont live in fantasyland and there is no 6500xt at 200 bucks to begin with.
@evacody1249
@evacody1249 2 года назад
@@Amarushaya92 🤦 I would get the 3080 to. Point is not everyone does those builds. I have a high end PC 6700xt and Ryzen 7 3700x. No I would not buy the 6500xt. But if I was doing a budget build with a Ryzen 3 or an i3 yeah I would buy it.
@socksonfeet8125
@socksonfeet8125 2 года назад
Help me out folks. 2022 pricing has me in a bind.I'm only trying to upgrade one of my my old pc's to play a few recent games and get better performance out of all my older games. I have a fx6100/r9 270x and a phenom x4/r9 290x. My machines are old becuase i rarely game these days you see, So I can only spend so much o upgrades and do 1 upgrade on one pc or the other. I set a $300 max limit and can get a ryzen 5600x/mobo/ram OR get a 6500xt to swap into either one. Which of the two will get me better overall performance as an upgrade? I play mainly single player games and racing games.
@raiyaniqbal2374
@raiyaniqbal2374 2 года назад
I am using this card for a couple of days and facing a little problem, Every time i installed and ran a new game i gave me a decent FPS but after 1-2 days, i mean when i started to play that game day by day the FPS gradually decreased... Can anyone explain it??
@krxs15
@krxs15 2 года назад
in australia, u can get the 6500xt for the same price as the gtx 1650, even though it is 28% more powerful than it according to GPU user benchmark, and the card is in stock as well bc it seems like everyone doesn't want it, but for low budget gamers, its a steal coming in at AUD $390 which is approx USD $275.
@JustAGuy85
@JustAGuy85 2 года назад
I think it might be worth looking at IF you have pci-e 4.0. Otherwise, it's a hard pass. It's an x4 card, so if you have a pci-e 3.0 motherboard, it's going to run at 3.0 x4. That actually makes it slower than a 580 8GB in most games. In some games, it's a lot slower. But, yeah, if you have 4.0 and need something to tide you over until better GPU prices come, it may be worth looking into.
@willibrahmantyo9939
@willibrahmantyo9939 2 года назад
@@JustAGuy85 I think even for a guy like me with pci-e 3.0 motherboard, I'd still pick 6500xt over rx 580. Because the rx580 price is almost double the 6500xt here
@krxs15
@krxs15 2 года назад
@@willibrahmantyo9939 lmao in australia all the new rx 580s are AUD 1100 which is like 900 usd, complete ripoff so thats when the 6500xt will be a viable option
@vividyon
@vividyon 2 года назад
kinda annoyed that the powercolor doesnt have a backplate considering it’s literally $279….
@ZachsTechTurf
@ZachsTechTurf 2 года назад
Meh there's EVGA RTX 3060's out there without a backplate these days lol
@samuelking1347
@samuelking1347 2 года назад
Is this card any good for productivity, am a designer and animator, I do some video editing as well. I'd like to know.
@Stefan.Stefanov
@Stefan.Stefanov 2 года назад
Can you test it on i7-2600K because I'm not sure how good or bad is running on PCI-e 2.0 x4? 2600K is a cheap budget 2nd hand CPU but supports PCI-e 2.0 only.
@lc744
@lc744 2 года назад
The biggest problem I have with this card is that it will have no resell value so even if I get it at $350 I cant say its money I'll recover and get something better when the gpu market goes back to normal.
@dadflap1278
@dadflap1278 2 года назад
This market is the new normal brother.
@spektrumB
@spektrumB 2 года назад
You can find this card for $200, not $350.
@18matts
@18matts 2 года назад
Honestly I'm hyped for any gpus being available! I'm feeling happy 😃 edit I just watch gamers nexus and this card is not good... I'm not happy 😕
@ZachsTechTurf
@ZachsTechTurf 2 года назад
Form your own opinions.
@sKumbag70
@sKumbag70 2 года назад
Yeah some games at PCIE 3.0 it only just beats a 1050ti...
@Stavroization
@Stavroization 2 года назад
@@ZachsTechTurf you presume he didn't?
@wolfshanze5980
@wolfshanze5980 2 года назад
@@ZachsTechTurf He watched your video, he watched Gamers Nexus video... he formed his own opinion, it just wasn't YOUR opinion.
@arkplaysgame3826
@arkplaysgame3826 2 года назад
@@wolfshanze5980 i dont think he can comprehend that cos this video doesnt even have a single point that say this gpu is good.
@FtloneClips.
@FtloneClips. 2 года назад
Is an RX needed for a mother board, or can I use it without ??
@ryzenbiel4145
@ryzenbiel4145 Год назад
is this great for Adobe lightroom cc 1080p? and dota 2??
@Snacksu
@Snacksu 2 года назад
would be okay if this was $150. The problem with this card is that the RTX 3050 is way worth the $50 increase when it releases.
@Psychooable
@Psychooable 2 года назад
The problem is you will most likely have to pay 200$ more not 50$
@ocha-time
@ocha-time 2 года назад
What does that matter if you can't actually buy an RTX 3050? Why base opinions on cards' values on theoretical releases that realistically can't actually be had anyways? You can get a 6500XT because it sucks for mining. That's pretty important. And in this fantasy land where the 3050's available, what do you think the market value's going to actually be? $350? $450? $550? Probably $550. And I bet this will be comparable in performance.
@lfc1903
@lfc1903 2 года назад
Brought this for my sons pc as there is nothing on the market for £199 (what I paid) and it will play almost all games at over 60fps at high setting and 1080P.. he only has a 60hz monitor so paying over £400 for rx6600 is not worth it, and it looks as though the 3050’s are going to be £300-£400 in the UK.. so it’s the only option at the moment for a cheap build.. btw I have a rx6600 and I’m very happy with it on a 1440P monitor.
@spektrumB
@spektrumB 2 года назад
@@ocha-time I see one(only SKU I can find) in stock, a Gigabyte Gaming RTX 3050 for €549. The inflated price is as terrible as expected.
@tiagopires8672
@tiagopires8672 2 года назад
325€ IS NOT CHEAP
@azo5s574
@azo5s574 Год назад
Real
@barney2.1254
@barney2.1254 2 года назад
Please I'm just building a new pc for blender,, is it wise to buy this card?, I'm a beginner and my budget is tight, and I'll be pairing it will Ryzen 2600x
@gilangzulkarnaen9777
@gilangzulkarnaen9777 2 года назад
may i ask something?, rn im using asus a320m-k as mobo, can i run it whith rx 6500xt? thanks.
@zvikomboreromugwara5265
@zvikomboreromugwara5265 2 года назад
I was looking to upgrade my rx 560 2G with a 1650 non super. This is a valid option for me especially since its much faster than, and the same price as the 1650 in my country. What hurts is that if these were normal times, this carf would've been $100
@TsunaXZ
@TsunaXZ 2 года назад
I use an RX 460 and it seems like I need to wait a little bit more to see the new 3050 if its worth it. Otherwise, I'm going for old used GTX cards.
@notcraig255
@notcraig255 2 года назад
this card would've not been 100$ because it would have been much more different in a normal market. It would've been a desktop card made for desktops rather than a laptop card made for desktops.
@03chrisv
@03chrisv 2 года назад
For $350 I rather buy a Xbox Series S with 3 months of Gamepass Ultimate as its super easy to find at MSRP. The 6500xt is a curious oddity and the Power Color version meant for ITX cases (single cooling fan version) is interesting if it can be bought for MSRP at $199. However once you hit the $300 mark it's just not a good value proposition.
@modables
@modables 2 года назад
I found a power color for 199.. it has been in stock for a while too
@maithepai2761
@maithepai2761 Год назад
Is it worth getting this over my nvidia 1660 6 gb or should I save for a RX 6600XT
@mostafa21shafik
@mostafa21shafik 2 года назад
which better b550 support pcie 4.0 for 4650g now and future update 5600x oc and 6500xt ??
@ETM288
@ETM288 2 года назад
I bought this graphics card as I’m going for a budget pc and this is my first pc ever also in Australia this actually at a good price compared to others
@Beary98
@Beary98 2 года назад
If I buy an rx 580, 480, a gtx 1060 3gb or a 1650. I'm getting a relatively low range card by today's standards. I might be worried about the gpu bottlenecking my cpu. But at least om not worried about the gpu bottlenecking itself. As I said in another comment, products like this are akin to the hp stream laptops. I had a special ultra cut down image built for then in university because so many people brought them in when windows tried to update and couldn't. 32gb of flash storage made them basically inoperable as a windows laptop. They were were cheap laptop, they sort of functioned, they sort of sort of did computer things... but they didn't help the cheap laptop market they made it worse. They didn't make computing cheap, they made it a horrible experience. Hp sold e waste to the uniformed. That's this card, it doesn't make gaming cheap. It makes cheap gaming worse.
@skashax777x
@skashax777x 2 года назад
My rig has a R9 3900x 32 GB Ram and a 1660 Ti as a place holder, I have a bottle neck lol My 1660 Ti out preforms this RX 6500xt my old rig still works but currently needs rebuilding I am waiting for a deal to either find a new GPU for my old rig or and upgrade to this rig to pass down the 1660ti sadly this RX 6500xt is not worth it for my old rig as it has the key features of AV1 and H264 encoding missing, as I want to turn on old rig in to a media and back up NAS and as a screen capture machine too, this is a frustrating launch
@subject204ghost3
@subject204ghost3 2 года назад
@@skashax777x thos card isnt for people like you. Its for people who WANTED a 1650 or 1660 but cant afford them because theyre so gosh dang expensive. People who are running integrated graphics and need something thats affordable and works.
@mdo
@mdo 2 года назад
You sir take the cake. I love your comment and that last sentence should be added to the dictionary next to an image of this card.
@armed_but_blind2768
@armed_but_blind2768 2 года назад
I didn't think about the GPU bottlenecking itself 😂
@LukeHimself
@LukeHimself 2 года назад
The GPU is SUPPOSED TO BE the bottleneck in your graphics performance.. ffs.. An old 2011 X5650 6 core/12 thread stock clocked Xeon doesn't bottleneck the RX 580 8GB at 1430/2100mhz, 99% of the time. I bought a Ryzen 1700 8/16 motherboard-16GB ram-CPU combo (200 bucks woo!), at stock clocks it has the same performance. There are moments, when the CPU is being slammed, the 1700 allows the performance to stay a single digit FPS higher than with the X5650, but that's probably less than 1% of time in a game. GPU is supposed to be the graphics bottleneck, if anything else is, you've underbuilt your rig or used an overpowered card for the build.
@TechDudeTerry
@TechDudeTerry 2 года назад
thanks for the video. i just installed this graphics card into my machine. for me i do not care about the benchmarks or frame rates. i care about the process of playing and be able to play games at ease with a less expensive of the card. i know the 6600 is a bit more expensive but i will use this one till it craps out. when ever that will be. so far i like the card.
@Soplox
@Soplox 2 года назад
Clean transition to the sponsor ad lol
@InsaneWayne355
@InsaneWayne355 2 года назад
I think you nailed it. I recently upgraded my rig to a B550 w/Ryzen 5700G (stuck with on-board graphics for budget reasons). So most of those "concerns" people bring up are irrelevant ... PCI x4: non-isuue, I have gen4 No encoders: non-issue, I don't stream 4GB VRAM: no so good, but still better than shared system RAM 2 outputs: non-issue, I don't steam I just want something to get away from onboard video, and this seems perfect.
@danielbarnes3406
@danielbarnes3406 2 года назад
Your experience checks out, but as Zach mentioned, you are in the single-digit percentage of the users this card targets (those with PCIe 4.0). For 90% of their target market, this isn't a compelling upgrade, and that's why it doesn't make sense. I have a 970/4790 system and even with something that old, this isn't even close to practical.
@amogusamogus8490
@amogusamogus8490 2 года назад
the 5700g only has gen 3
@Time4House
@Time4House 2 года назад
the pole riding in this video is EPIC.
@ZachsTechTurf
@ZachsTechTurf 2 года назад
Thanks, I've been practicing.
@TheRealGamer727
@TheRealGamer727 Год назад
Well i wan to record too with this gpu so can I use my old gt710 as a video encoder?
@brt_matt6503
@brt_matt6503 7 месяцев назад
mine always fails i will be playing and then my screen will go black i can hear everything still and it will stay black i have to completely shut down my pc for it start working again and sometimes after this my driver will fail
@jakobe_bryantgaming5580
@jakobe_bryantgaming5580 2 года назад
This card seems like it was only intended to be an in stock budget gpu. Otherwise, it seems like its worse than a 5500xt lol.
@GabrielNica1
@GabrielNica1 2 года назад
I remember when many youtubers had a bad opinion when the GTX 1650 was launched and now that card looks rather good. It will probably happen with this card in 1-2 years as well.
@PistolShrimpPimp
@PistolShrimpPimp 2 года назад
The 1650 carries many of the regular family features and even allows you to enable rtx without even having the hardware for it. Not to say it will work well if at all but it's the point that it's not a locked down crappy card It's not that it's just a slow GPU, it lacks many things slow GPUs have without reducing the cost more.
@Stavroization
@Stavroization 2 года назад
Right? People have the shortest memories...
@Vermilicious
@Vermilicious 2 года назад
At the moment, where I live, the 6600 is some 60% more expensive than the 6500 XT, and the 6600 XT over 100% more expensive. Aside from the fact that all gpus are overpriced, I find the price differences here doesn't justify the purchase, even considering the lack of future proofing. You can save some money now and upgrade in a year or two when, hopefully, the price situation has improved.
@njegosh8007
@njegosh8007 Год назад
After a year I check this video and give us the update should we go for this card right now or not?
@JavanVandeSlunt
@JavanVandeSlunt 2 года назад
Would be less of a disappointment if it wasn't a downgrade from the 5500XT in many games, even when running Gen 4. This card would be better received as just a 5500 XT 4GB refresh. Which as you stated, isn't ALL bad, supply is supply. Having more budget cards in the market is a net positive even if they aren't any better than their predecessors. That said, it is a big letdown from the impressive performance of the rest of the 6000 series, and puts a stain/bad taste on an otherwise really good series of cards.
@JavanVandeSlunt
@JavanVandeSlunt 2 года назад
RX 6400, that’s the ticket.
@gluttenglutten
@gluttenglutten 2 года назад
Well, I dont think it should be sold as a refresh since its a new design and alot more efficient than the old generation. When did people stop care about power draw/performance? And as in the video, you get a new product. yes you can buy a 5500xt used and hope that it works when you get it. But i wouldnt.
@eazen
@eazen 2 года назад
Someone didn't understand the video.
@JavanVandeSlunt
@JavanVandeSlunt 2 года назад
@@gluttenglutten Yeah that's where I think calling it a 6400 comes into play instead. It's worse than the 5500 XT, but it does have 6000 series tech. Selling it as a RX 6500 XT is just embarrassing to AMD. I think it is a good value at MSRP, it's just VERY poorly marketed. In terms of your efficiency comment, how is 107W a notable improvement over the 115W of the 5500 XT?
@JavanVandeSlunt
@JavanVandeSlunt 2 года назад
@@eazen Care to explain? I don't think you understood the purpose of my comment. I AGREE with the premise of the video, I am just noting why I believe the card is getting such bad press... Which is because people rightly expect to see improvements in products from one generation to the next. So if AMD's marketing department had removed the expectation that it should be an improvement over the 5500 XT by calling it something else (like a 6400), done. Problem solved.
@robb5828
@robb5828 2 года назад
6500XT doing 63 FPS on Forza Horizon where my old RX 570 does in between 75-85 fps most of the time........Im not so sure on this 6500XT.......We get you Zach,about the fact that we need more budget cards.....but still.... 300 cojones is 300 cojones,this card ain't worth that
@ZachsTechTurf
@ZachsTechTurf 2 года назад
Well run the built in benchmark, it produces like 20-30 FPS less than what you get in a real gaming situation.
@robb5828
@robb5828 2 года назад
@@ZachsTechTurf ill try it out
@robb5828
@robb5828 2 года назад
@@ZachsTechTurf 62 FPS in Benchmark mode,you were right. I still feel like this GPU should be around 170 MSRP. If you can grab a hold of a 570 or 580 and do a comparison :) would love to see it
@robb5828
@robb5828 2 года назад
@@CandyMan2001 you can't ,last time i could find one in the shop was last year.Second hand you might be looking at 250$
@ForceGMs
@ForceGMs 2 года назад
Can someone help here i'm looking to upgrade my GTX 1060 will this gpu beat my gpu on modern games?(RX 6500XT) couse right now all this games can be play at low settings (GTX1060)
@j.lietka9406
@j.lietka9406 2 года назад
Is there an MSI version? Thanks not worried about a lot of games, but how well it can handle 3D modeling - nothing high end - but say, unreal engine for 3D drawing, some messing with animation, & regular programs
@jamespickell3915
@jamespickell3915 2 года назад
Since we’re still in the shortage, it’s great if you can get your hands on it at a decent price
@ZachsTechTurf
@ZachsTechTurf 2 года назад
For sure, I agree.
@redmibaabu1958
@redmibaabu1958 2 года назад
Does the shortage will end by the year? Or should buy this card as I'm using ryzen 5 2400g apu
@Mbb2220
@Mbb2220 2 года назад
@@redmibaabu1958 you should buy the card
@rogerharsh
@rogerharsh 2 года назад
If it's under 250$
@rogerharsh
@rogerharsh 2 года назад
@@redmibaabu1958 me too man. I am waiting for GPUs from many months .. 2400g preety runs every game but it needs more vram for latest games like forza 5.. but prices for 6500zt which perform is lower than 1650 is 300$+
@darthwiizius
@darthwiizius 2 года назад
If you've got gen 4 it's OK but if you're in the majority it isn't. Having said that it'll probably age OK with gen 5 standardising though the 4GB and 64 Bit memory restriction will likely stop it "aging like fine wine". For most folks a 1650S is a better choice right now and at(in the UK) a current new price of £20 more than a 6500XT makes it a no brainer. I really don't understand gimping the card with 4 communication lanes while Nvidia cards maintain the full interface width, I mean the electronic components to make this card open literally cost a couple of quid(if that)(I am a professional electronics buyer by trade BTW). It's one thing to remove functions but it's another to strangle the card.
@andrewmcewan9145
@andrewmcewan9145 2 года назад
I feel like its a uarch thing The 6600 and 5500 where 128bit and only had x8 where this card is 64 bit and has x4. And by this i mean i think the die is not capable of using more than 4 lanes. Its probably a gcn to rdna change. But i dont have design documents so its just speculation. In laptops its fine and 12th gen is getting pritty cheep to get on to. With the i3 being $120 and all. Anybody with a 6c6t chip could probably upgrade for nothing out of pocket.
@darthwiizius
@darthwiizius 2 года назад
@@andrewmcewan9145 It may well be to do with architecture but it's worth noting that the PS5 SOC happily runs 8 DDR6 memory chips. And I do agree with your comment on CPU's, we've moved to the odd position where Intel are delivering the goods in the "budget" sector right now with some great performance in their i3 100 and i5 400&600 chips, as far as CPUs go I can't remember a time when we've been better served, maybe back in the 90s when Athlon and 64 bit Athlon chips shook up the market? Even then if we went back and tried to tell ourselves about the levels of performance we have easily available now we might not believe ourselves.
@evacody1249
@evacody1249 2 года назад
@@darthwiizius 🤦 a console is not the same as a PC. You can't compare the two sets of hardware like that. The GPU and CPU are limited to what they can do in a console graphics wise.
@Magjee
@Magjee 2 года назад
@@evacody1249 with a console I can play games, watch videos and do some browsing. A computer can be used for hundreds of things
@faiyazgaming2891
@faiyazgaming2891 2 года назад
only if that card was available in some countries. in mine it sells for more than 270+ dollars. people are actually over exaggerating on the fact that its previous version was cheaper and better. im telling u now show me a rx 5600 xt in 200 dollars. fuck it even 2060 is being sold at 300+ dollars. and this trend is not stopping any time now. its like those years when buying ram was like buying a diamond
@cabonk3273
@cabonk3273 2 года назад
is it better than gtx 1650 using pcie 3.0 ? or should i go with gtx 1650 ?
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