Me too. I’ve heard that sentiment many times before and look how all that’s working out. I think anyone who’s getting hypefest on 2024. We need to red flag that session right here right now. Far up the red flags everyone back to the pits race over.
Having to start a career every year just to get updated, driver grids and tracks gets tiresome. Why can't these games just put new liveries and drivers behind a dlc pay wall for $20?? It'd be nice to keep my stats or carry them over to the next year
F1 2016 was not the first F1 game to introduce classic cars. that honour goes to F1 97 with the 60s mode. Then the studio liverpool games had classic cars in most of their games and the codemasters era was F1 2013 before bringing them back in F1 2017
I’d like to add EA’s NHL series to that…same problem. Worst part is, every time they introduce anything new it absolutely demolishes the game’s stability and introduces new bugs that stick around for years
@@eebiki remembered a lot also that NHL 15 ON PS4/5 and Xbox One and Series X REMOVED 120! YES! 120 FEATURES THAT WERE ALL IN OLDER NHL GAMES! EVEN THE SEASON MODE WAS REMOVED!
@@guilhermes.pereira1671 well there’s thousands, but they essentially all narrow down to that it’s essentially a yearly release with no actual updates between games. Even the micro transaction complaints started before EA came along.
@@purwantiallan5089 no f1 22 was when the podium pass was started. We had micro transactions, preorder bonuses and different editions of the game giving stuff like exclusive liveries, tracks, race suits, helmets, podium celebrations, race scenarios e.t.c. for years prior to that.
Imagine a AAA Bethesda game having less bugs than a simcade racing game. Broken multiplayer for years, buggy races, rife cheating problems but then they gave us some sofas and sunglasses and wanted us to kiss their feet for it
@@commandmax3931LoveLive SIF2 MIRACLE LIVE also WAY WORSE than Starfield due to 50.000 bugs even after launch. It also closed down forever on Japan in March 31st 2024!
I played these games religiously since what... F1 2015... then I bought a gaming PC and installed Assetto Corsa F1 mods. Never, ever looked back. The driving feel, tyre grip, force feedback is not even on the same planet on these games. Pretty packages... hollow inside. It's a shame, really as these look wonderful.
@@stevebuscemi3622 I have made F1 full seasons with full version of AC content manager. They have amazingly realistic results because you can tune every single detail on these mods. Sure it takes a lot of tweaking but it's worth it. Check my channel. Cheers man.
@@13breno13 yes you can with mods. the biggest downside of AC is the ai tho. On many tracks they are very unbalanced. Also no career mode which is why i dont stick to it. I prefer racing over hotlapping..
I played this game since F1 2012 until F1 22 where I stopped playing this game. There's no incentive for me to play this game because there's nothing to do aside play career mode and this career mode is so stale beyond words.
Instead of bringing back classic cars for quick races, bring back classic as a career mode. There should make a career mode set in the past. Or maybe two career modes. One for modern and one for classic career from the like the. 4 season classic career mode with commentary and all saying the names of the drivers and car tuning that fully simulates f1 of the era. Make it feel like the classic is the modern. With dirty replay camera and poor or no radio depending on the era. Track layouts of the era like the classic monza or classic spa francochamp or Monaco. Also a longer pitstop with refueling and the possibility of making a mistake of leaving early before refueling, which can cause fire that hurts your pit crew, affecting your race rewards greatly. It should be set from like 1970 to 1974 or 1975. Then the next game will have classic career from 1975 to 1980 or something. Next game 1980 to 1985, etc. It'd be amazing to compete classic drivers like Alan prost, senna, Michael and Ralph Schumacher, etc.
I returned to F1 2020, and man, I love it. It's actually fun to drive, we have great classic cars, and if I'm not in the mood for a full season, I can always say that "It's Covid", and play a shorter season :D
True. F1 2020 even four years after release still the GOAT. F1 2021 still perfect though especially the main theme by Ian Livingstone that is as amazing as Colorful Dreams Colorful Smiles.
F1 2021 didn't have worse handling. Didn't you know that in the real life 2021 season the cars had a reduction in downforce from the 2020 season. Codemasters replicated the downforce reduction for the 2021 game. So that's right on that part.
I'm well aware of the fact that the 2021 cars were slower, but I'm talking about the handling model, not the speed of the cars. Myself and many others experienced random traction loss in high speed corners without TC, which doesn't make any sense considering the downforce in these situations. Besides, the cars in F1 2020 felt generally nicer to drive and were more fun in my opinion.
@@AshleighKinsellaWell, they for sure didn't do it on purpose, but it was still worse in my opinion. The driving felt more inconsistent, but still way better than 22
I think what codies and ea did was first fuck up the handling in f1 2021, which was saved by f1 cars running top aero at the time and just copy it over to 22, which was shit because the cars were now running ground effect and produced downforce differently.
F1 2020 is still a very fun game for me. Been doing TT on every track with classic cars recently and it’s so much fun, especially when you top the leaderboard on multiple tracks 😂🙌🏼
So I just wanna add that the braking point story wasn’t removed for F1 22 it was never gonna be in the game same with F1 24 we are not getting a braking point story this year and that is because codemasters have split their development team in 2 groups. One team works on braking point basically and the other one does career modes essentially. And I totally agree with you it’s basically the same game every year.
Thats why assetto corsa is the best in my oppinion driving wise, you will get bored of f1 cars at some point, so you can go very different car on any track
Loved this video. Career mode has been lacking for literal years, just like the game engine. F1 2020 and F1 2013 were epic as both had some awesome classic cars. I also feel like better replays are needed, but not many people really talk about that, so maybe it's just a "me" issue!
The main issue for me with those games is that something always seems to be off. In 2021 and 2022 it was the handling and in 2023 the terribly balanced AI. In 2020 I had to do one short qualifying on each track to know the exact AI level that suits me there and the best part is that the time gained per AI percentage was exactly 0.100 seconds and 0.200 seconds on ultimate level. That gap got more inconsistent and therefore harder to calculate and the AI got even more inconsistent, now even between sessions and game modes. If I have to fiddle around with such settings and have to restart a quali and then a race for 4 or 5 times just to find out the right AI level then the game is already trash.
It's been a while since I want a career mode where you can choose what year you play and can play the 2000 car's and with 10 years in your career you get the 2010 and so on (and also have your player get older)
same... imagine in F1 24 you could start up in 2014 for example. And all regulations etc. would be aplied there too. But adding random driver moves etc to make it feel special. I would love to see that but... since its EA i would expect this to be feature like... buy every game to play those years in new F1
Coming from someone who has worked as a coach/manager for one of the pro series teams, this is exactly how I feel and what wained my motivation to get back into the game because I managed as well one of the biggest PC leagues and since about 2 years I haven't had the motivation to even touch F1 23 and instead I've moved onto other sims. Its ashame as I love playing with everyone and meeting other community members as I've made a lot of friends from doing it as I miss being apart of a pro series team but just with how stuff is seat up it doesn't even provide a stable job platform and that can be attributed to just the general development of the games since F1 21.
Now I'm not a F1 fan, but I am a NASCAR fan. And I know how it feels. The general conception is that NASCAR gaming, at least for consoles, peaked with NASCAR Thunder 2004 and/or Chase For The Cup, which came out in 2005. Ever since then, it's just been downhill. EA, who made those games, eventually gave up trying by NASCAR 09. Then we had Eutecnyx for 5 games, only one of which being fondly remembered, that being Inside Line in 2012. Then in 2016, 704 Games took over and we got the NASCAR Heat series. Which is easily the most hated. We got four games with them from 2016-2019, all of which being received mostly negatively or mixed reception. Then in 2020, Motorsport Games took over after buying 704. They first released NASCAR Heat 5, and I bring this up only because it's currently the last game that got fairly positive reception. Then in 2021, Motorsport Games released NASCAR 21 Ignition. And the game was fucking horrendous. Just to put it bluntly, the game was completely unfinished. Tons of glitches, the spotter never shutting up, and the game would crash very regularly. All of these problems despite the game supposedly being in production for 2 years. After Ignition, Motorsport Games spent the next 2 years using the NASCAR license basically as a tax write-off. They released a rushed Nintendo game in 2022. And didn't release anything in 2023. They kept announcing delays to both the next actual NASCAR game and the Indycar game they were "working on." So i know a lot about falling titans in racing games.
This It's so funny. Tons of these videos out there and these addicted dudes don't want to realize that they're not only part of the problem, but essentially make it possible in the first place. Mindless Consumers
I mean it sure sounds promising given the forum they released, secret team meetings. Revamped acclaim type system that goes hand in hand with team rnd. So currently cautiously optimistic
"My peak goal is 100 subscribers" Me thinking you said 100k, but realising you forgot the "thousand" part: "Wait... Lemme check... 101 SUBSCRIBERS?! I THOUGHT YOU HAD LIKE 70k"
Personal opinion, I think they should add a classic career mode Based around the 2007, season to the 2009 season I think that would be better because then you could experience the cars from 2009 The drivers in the atmosphere But Considering EA Is in charge that’s never gonna happen. They’re going to try to turn this game into a FIFA clone where micro transactions are everywhere. I actually now worried about the new Career Mode. Yeah that’s now super concerning
What gets me is the loss of detail over time. The attention to detail was much greater in 2018 compared to later games. There are videos made comparing the textures that backs this. The immersion factor has dropped over time with the loss of this attention to detail
1 year simply isn’t enough to make significant improvements, but they still have to release games because of ea and f1 contracts. Only way to have anything significant change would be to sacrifice 1-2 games where it’s just the last one with small updates for the new season. That’s what they did for f1 2014. That game was shit, but next one was on new engine
Or make a game with subscription service like iracing for 60-70$ per year and improve this game bit by bit. Just add every new season to the game. Would be much better in my opinion.
After hearing everything about the beta my hopes are 6ft under right now. A worse handling model that feels like F1 22, the same game engine STILL since 2015, a battery that burns faster than a forest fire, same track models that for most are very unrealistic and ai that once again have significantly more straight line speed than the player. I think we can all collectively say it’s time for another developer to take control like KUNOS (that made Assetto corsa and ACC)
Formula One 2001 (PS2), F1 Championship Edition (PS3), F1 2012 (PC/Steam), F1 2013 (PS3), F1 2017 (PC/Steam), F1 2018 (PC/Steam) all these games I currently own and more fun then F1 2023.
Honestly, surprised EA Sports hasn't gotten Moto GP at this point since they are getting every popular sport available. To think Moto GP is the only one they haven't is surprising.
I'd been obsessed with F1 games since I was old enough to hold a controller - the mid nineties. I remember going out at midnight to get F1 2015 as it was the first one on PS4 and I couldn't wait for the new graphics...2020 was the last one I bought. Thankfully I haven't wasted my time and money since. Lazy cash grabs.
honestly they should just have one game that they keep adding to, it would increase the replay value of the game and to have consistent handling over the whole game, and i do know that ea and codemasters will loose lots of money
I wanted a real-life F1 sim so I tried F1 23 a few weeks ago. I got a clear run on Stroll and he put me in the wall at 300kmh without him even looking. Seems pretty realistic to me.
For me F1 21 was the peak (my first F1 game) still partially dealing with the Pandamic we had a online friend group of about 7/10 people online on a regular basis to race each other, now where down to 3 people. We made so many great and fun memories on that game and Sochi was my favorite circuit 😢
Id enjoy it more if online actually gave penalties to the people who purposely crash into you, or hard break on a straight because they don't want to be passed for their lack of driving skills.
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New Star GP is such a great F1 game! Yeah, it's completely arcade but it's so cool. Also Assetto Corsa with F1 mods.
Swap the top arrow in the thumbnail with 2017 and the bottom one with 2020 and it would reflect the consensus in 2020. The F1 Game franchise is fine. The 2024 game looks like it's gonna be a miss, but it's good to see they're taking a year to experiment with the handling a bit so the 2025 game will be better.
the best f1 car right now is the AMS2 2024 formula ultimate gen2 with 1.6 tyre model! the sensation from the ffb u getting feeling the down force underneath the car is almost holy🤙
That´s true, but it seems that they still make enough money with this strategy, considering they don´t see the point in really improving anything. If the players would kind of boycott the series, EA would be forced to please the community again... Anyway, thanks for watching🧡
Codasters was on the same mentality as EA before being acquired. It was a perfect marriage. Codies had already been copy pasting games for years (12/13/14 for example), introducing features and removing others just to bring them back (see interviews). Also, F1 2013 was the first to introduce classic cars, but people forget this because CM removed them literally one year later. They have 0 interest in making a proper F1 game, mostly because they would just need to update it yearly with the new models. Blimey, they could even allow you to have a career mode progressing from one year to the other by buying the new models once ready (see F1 challenge 99). People were discussing for years in the hope of codies letting other companies takeover the brand. Let’s stop sanctifying Codemasters, shall we?
Because the novelty has worn off that’s all, the games have improved but it isn’t fun anymore because they are just a normal occurrence. You don’t need even four minutes to explain it. Clickbaiter.
And I have more fun playing F1 Challenge 99-02 with or without mods, also I can drive in and out of pit manually without using AI, and you can play this old game with keyboard so no need to use overpriced wheel setup
codemasters never made great f1 games, because it was made for esport and multiplayers in mind, not for single player, the AI is poorly designed, especially in full lenght race with all penalties enabled. AI never use its tyres, never make a single mistake, never DNF. this just sucks.
Maybe I'm being negative but My Team in 2020 didn't blow me away. It was fun developing the car by collecting points for it during free practice but I really missed the on-track influence as an owner. You have a team mate who's usually shit at completing tasks to get dev points and you have absolutely no control over them. I would have loved to see and change their strategy for example or have any control over their role as a team member. I played one team but I stopped after season 3 because development got really broken and suddenly everyone else got like a second faster than me and my competitors' car suddenly got way better than mine even though I was the constructor champion with a shitload of points to develop.
I think the F1 games tend to go through better and worse phases over time. F1 2015 was a disappointment but 2016 saw numerous improvements. The classic cars were great but lacked authenticity compared to simulators and it definitely needed classic tracks like 2013. I think the handling is much better and less trigger happy compared to 2022 and the AI is more of a challenge/less harsh. Red flags have been in/out of the game over the years too. Braking Point is good, but should be a 3-part story to keep it interesting. Career mode definitely needs something new.
We need a hardcore Sim with a real and visible damage model. Not that crap one like today. They have the money to convince the car manufacturers to allow damages to their holy cars
It’s funny how everyone hates because it’s not EA … since 2022 we final received track updates which basically never happened with Codemasters … we got Silverstone Austria Catalunya Texas etc
the handling and physics of 2023 are way better than the previous games, so i wouldnt rate it low. But i do miss additional tracks, individual calendar, Career and MyTeam improvements + historic cars
*I can't believe the title of this video!* 🤯🤨🤔 0:20 So what? It's never the same game: other physics & car handling, other liveries and other "upgrades" in career mode. And slightly different UI and graphics, including ray-tracing! 1:29 = *NOT TRUE!!! I have F1 2013 and it has Classic Cars...BEFORE F1 2016 was developed!!!*
I quite liked the Braking Point story mode on the F1 games, the problem is that they did not script it to be a continuous series, like a Netflix show. Also, F1 23 being my first F1 game, I haven't experienced the Classic Cars in F1 2020, and I cannot download it on my Series S Xbox because they dropped support for it, stupidly. I really don't want to go into Asseto Corsa because I do not have a proper sim setup or wheel (I use a foldable table and a Thrustmaster Ferrari 458 wheel which leaves a lot to be desired).
Grinding to get elite on f1 23 was fun nowadays I got no reason to play it, I don’t even like career mode tbh I don’t like racing against AI but real people
maybe its time to realize that game development in general has hit a bit of a plateau. ai in f1 games arent perfect but theyre pretty damn good and we really cant ask much more from the graphics. inherently until something like 2026 comes along nothing much about f1 is going to change fundamentally, in an ideal world we would get a new title only once every 2-3 years to maximize development but of course ea and codies need a constant cash flow (tens of thousands of people buying a new game each year). its not a good situation but the only way i see the f1 games being good again is having them not be yearly releases
As easy as it is to join the hate… let’s be real… there’s no other game that gives you the immersive F1 experience. If you enjoy it for what it is, and not hate it for what you want it to be, you might enjoy it a little more. We are lucky these games are half decent these days compared to F1 games 10-20 years ago. If you truly want sim, you know this isn’t the game.
Imagine this: You are addicted to the same yearly released game for like 5 years and you slowly can't stand it anymore. But you blame the game & devs for your goddman addiction, rather than realizing the problem is you, not the game (as they just want to make more and more money, who would've thought😒)
Without watching the video, I can answer the title to your video. It's simple: because of ea sports. Codemasters were delivering hit after hit. F1 22 was the last fun f1 and that's also when ea stepped in. F1 23 sucks. F1 24 looks like the continuation of 23
They could just make a single IP and keep developing that, add things like Formula E F2, F3 and of course classic cars. foster a fanbase for it and monetise it in a sensible way (not that id trust EA to do that tbh) you'd be suprised how profitable a well liked and popular game is
wish all of F1 game got F1 23 treatment with precision drive like 2020 21 22 theres weird ass delay on controller where steering goes left to right right to left you cant even catch oversteer in these old game. 23 handling in controller is more like Skill based and risk to you drive the car, simply you can catch oversteer coming out lower gear more effectively while sacrificing your tyres this never happens in 2020 you'd better use flashback then anything else
Even before watching the video, I'd simply answer that it's because these games are just a buggy lazy mess with close to no additions for every iteration. They're just recycling stuff and put a full price tag on them
every simulator car i ve played has lack of grip on front tires , when i drive with my old skoda 100 km /h and do sharp turns there is no lose of grip car turns instantly , but when i go in rfactor f1 iracing and try to turn or countersteer in a drift sims like car is flying on water and they are racing cars should have much more grip than my old fabia
@@W4LK3RR that won't solve anything . I d say release a game after season or before the season and this time allow us to play season as any f1 driver we want. Separate 8 campaigns for all f1 drivers
Imagine it was like Minecraft, you buy it once and you have it for life. It would have updates when needed, the player base would be way higher so online gaming would be more active
When will all the suckers realise that ALL yearly release games are a con & $ grab. F1 games should be era racing, 50's, 90's, etc, AND current season. They could do this quite easily but it would drop their profit from suckers. Keep buying them, they will keep making them. F1 games could be a great franchise if the idea was for quality & content, not just $ from fools.
I got f1 2023 from ps plus this month. I was exited because i used to play a lot of f1 2019 and 2020 back in the days. I Even was top 5000 at one point on ps4 which for me, as a casual player, was pretty damn good. I hated f1 2023. The driving physics didnt get better, actually it felt worse and more unrealistic than ever. Most Tracks are the same or new ones that just suck. The car settings are basically the same but suddenly behave completely different. And the graphics are underwhelming at least. For a AAA EA-Game it looks like a modded Indie Game.
