I'm not upset. This series is awesome. I'm just starting episode 6 and it's been great. Episodes 1 and 2 were epic. It's been pretty faithful to the cartoon. Obviously they can't be 100% faithfull as somethings just don't translate well but all in all its been great. I've got my Avatar Last airbender Complete series blueray ready to watch again after i finish the netflix
I agree with most of what you said except the part about "diversity" "Asia" isn't just East Asia. Water Tribe culture was based on the Inuits....but they're not real Inuits. They had brown skin and blue eyes. Which is not like any real life ethnicity. If we say the Water Tribe are Inuits, we might as well say the Fremen in the fantasy world of Dune are Bedouin Arabs. Which they're obviously not according to the description of the characters.
It's not that bad, more like 6.5-7.5 maximum. For me, it would be better if they went for a shot to shot remake. They made their own changes and at the same time they didn't know enough about the lore for me and what's important not to miss in it... Some changes worked and some didn't. At this rate, they will definitely make some change in those 3 seasons that will be over the line, which will piss off a lot of people. Even now there have been a few such changes, but for now I can be more benevolent and give them a chance to fix the mistakes in season 2, although I don't think they will fix everything. I don't believe they will make a change in the number of episodes. It would need at least 12-15 episodes per season even if with a smaller budget per episode and not skip things and not have such a fast pace.
Aang goofing off and being fun is very important because it reminds the audience that he is a CHILD and this burden is on a child. So he can’t be expected to deal with everything as well as an adult would.
There was that scene in episode 1 where Aang was monologuing about knowing "who he is and that he likes to play airball and goofing off with his friends". Instead of letting Aang tell us that, why not show it at all???? Then it would drive home the point that Aang is still a kid and not ready for the responsibilities the role of being an Avatar brings. I hate Netflix.
@@Too2Cold It's not necessarily the acting, it's mostly the direction. A good director will make an actor look good even if they are not very good at acting
@@LuisSierra42 no that is a full blown lie. The director can make the direction but what’s direction without actually acting through it. That’s like saying I wish I had a million dollars but I don’t want to do anything to get it.
My issue is Azula. She was cold and ruthless and fearless in the original, but the live action makes her insecure, jealous, and immature, and the actress doesn't look the part or portray her well.
In my opinion, It's moreso she _was_ insecure and jealous, but that was hidden under a monolith of cold controlling facade. We see it break down and revealing those inner insecurities in the end when she went insane from paranoia. That's the problem of the show, it doesn't respect its audiene to be able to piece things together, it HAS to tell/show them...more often tell. And even with it fails every other time.
She looked fine. She's only 14 after all and in the animated series she looked 16 or even older. Everything else I agree with. Azula was confident and cruel, just like Ozai. Her insecurities in book 3 stem from her demeanor failing and her friends turning against her. Ozai doesn't play with her, he brainwashed her since she was born.
@@powerpuff_avenger I think the issues with Azula in the live action is her trying to win her father's approval and being emotional. Azula in the animated struggled as she was emotionless and cold shown on Ember Island. She also wasn't trying hard to win her father's approval because she already had it, Ozai loved Azula from birth she was the embodiment of perfection. Also, they are missing how she came off as in complete control of every situation she walked into (before her breakdown at least). She just doesn’t have that intimidation factor at all.
@@Halalrock oh I’d be so upset that the ORIGINAL CREATORS, changed stuff in there own show. That also be one less problem, among the plenty of other problems in this glorified cosplay show. Kim says. "That was a conscious decision to show people this is not the animated series." Go slice some cheese with that whine consumer goblins lmao
It’s like a typical Netflix show where they change everything to appeal to an audience that doesn’t exist and give middle finger to already existing audience who was very excited for it .
If you're going in expecting everything to be exactly like the cartoon, you're already setting it yourself to be a disappointment. I actually liked it being an avatar fan. Things that no one has said is how they gave subtle nods Iroh's way of keeping things casual without answer questions. For example, how in the neflix version he told Zuko that solders must of missed him during music night. It was like how the cartoon Iroh stopped zhao from getting a cheap shot at zuko. He said zuko was more honorable than him and said thanks for the jasmine tea that it was delicious. Zuko ask if he really meant it. And Iroh said, of course. Jasmine tea is his favorite. Both started with Agni Kai (oazi, zhao), zuko refuse to finish his opponent, uncle not really answering the question, zuko gaining a sense of honor( respect from solders, not tarnish his victory)
Hate what they did to Bumi. Also why is it a trend in the new show for adults to dunk down on a 12 years old for not being there for a 100 years? Seems like a very counterproductive way to motivate a child to save the world.
I hated the way Aang discovered who Bumi was as well. Also, Bumi's and Kyoshi's anger towards Aang for running away is made even weirder by the fact that Aang apparently *didn't* run away like he did in the original. He basically just took a ride on Appa with the intention of coming back, but ultimately wasn't able to due to the storm. So technically, it wasn't really HIS fault by there own logic. Netflix wanted to make Aang more likeable by removing any character flaws (like they did with Sokka) yet they doubled down on making him less likeable. I totally sympathized with 12-yr-old Aang in the original, but this adaptation made him less human.
Tbf,when i was i kid that was one of the things i didn't like about the show that hardly anyone asked Aang why was missing for 100 years. That is one of the negatives that of being an avatar that ATLA hardly touched upon but was very apparent in the LOK
@@jimmyliuwho He almost seemed like a villain almost. His mad genius didn't seem genuine. First he throws Aang a feast, then proceeds to throw a hissy fit. Also, the clothing he wears didn't reflect his crazy side, it seemed too polished.
@@powerpuff_avengerThat’s the point, this version was exploring a more cynical and jaded path Bumj could have and arguably more likely would have taken. After all he has dealt with a war with the Fire Nation for a century. It wasn’t done well, necessarily, but I got what was being communicated.
@@alexandrorocca7142 and it was flagrant. And that was for a 24 y.o playing a 17 y.o. Here it would be a 40y.o playing a 14 y.o Not the same gap to cross 😅
Uncle Iroh not being his carefree and joyful self in the beginning takes away the impact of finding out he was powerful warlord. To know he became such a caring and gentle man after decades of being a feared warrior is powerful. Also seeing everyone respects him and don't get me started with the arc where he's trapped in prison. It proves that he is really that dude. The show watered everyone's character down
Ofcourse they watered every one’s characters down, they had to put like 25 episodes in 8. They were always gonna leave out a lot of character building and focus more on plot. Understandable
While you were talking about Katara I think you missed that she didn’t train at all! Pakku never trained her, they just suddenly and randomly called her master Katara and she suddenly new waterbending out of nowhere. It defeats the point of the show in that Aang who has his past lives can also just know the other elements without training as well. No need for toph and zuko in the future.
Yeah. She doesn't fight him for the right to be trained by a master, she fights him to fight in the battle, it was silly. She has a literal line that she's her own master who only trained herself. Crazy
She learns the key to bending from Aang, and then learns fast. It's implied they have adventures off screen and Katara made up a water bending move from seeing an earth bender do it. I think Aang said that's a sign of a master(?) so maybe it's that she was learning a lot on the way up there but doubted her own abilities. She didn't know how good she was. And I mean in the original show how many days did she train to become a master, when she was already good? I think it was condensed for time but her learning it a little bit faster because she learned from Aang makes it make sense.
@@cutecats532 stop the cap. Her (one sentence) "learning" from Aang should only translate so far to her waterbending, even considering Aang is only strictly an Airbender, man didn't bend a single molecule of water. Her drive to be a good bender doesn't exist, her drive to want to learn from a waterbending master doesn't exist. Period.
@@cutecats532 I understand that they had time constraints which is why I think a training montage would have been a better suited alternative to "Oooh look, I'm a master now!" I think the entire first season showed adults in a poor light as if they are overbearing, unhelpful, toxic and unrealistic. There's little to no respect for experience, knowledge and guidance in adults (except Iroh) because of how the adult characters were written. I saw it in the past Avatars and the leadership of the various groups. When the Chief and Master Pakku simply turned away from Aang and said "he can't help us" I was flabbergasted. So, being fair to time constraints, they probably would have been better off showing us condensations of the original story that makes sense long term rather than slapping 'adults bad, own way good' on the series... I'm concerned about where the order of the White Lotus is even going to come from.
They made the mistake of thinking that adult oriented means grim, rather than intelligent. This ironically ends up painting a less emotionally heavy picture as when the goofy friendly kid is replaced with a focused and driven one you lose all the weight of him being genuinely conflicted about whether he can really hold on to those lighthearted values when the chips are down.
But still keep the bending-taking, IMO (w/ different source ofc), IMO. Aang defeating Ozai w/o killing him is very important climax for thim as Air monk and him killing Ozai means he failed as one.
I dont think you even need to remove anything or change any plot/character elements, just make it so death actually occurs in the show (which they did). The original never actually showed anyone lose their life. Just show it this time around and shit just got way more serious with nothing else being changed.
It just felt SO RUSHED. I don’t have time to even process any emotions they’re trying to hit. The animated series is filled with so many wise teachings too! But it’s so rushed in the netflix series that, even if they had a few lines that are wise……. I CAN’T HAVE A FEW SECONDS TO LET THAT SINK IN. UGHHHHHHH
The fact that they left to go to the north to learn water bending from the masters and now they're leaving without Aang learning to bend water when the first season is about the water element
I went in with an open mindset. I can forgive the costumes, I can forgive the less-than ideal actor/actress choices that didnt feel right, I can forgive the story changes, I can forgive the world-lore changes (like airbending flying), I can forgive the few 3d effects that were bad. For me what made the original show soo good was rich, but subtle world building; character development; intricate and reasonable plotlines, deeper themes; and the ability to blend humor with profound emotion and action. With an honest open mind, I don't see the show delivering on any of these points. from soul-less world building, to exposition dumps, to complete disregard for the themes that setup key moments in the plot... so far this is a big miss for me. Imagine if this money was instead put into delivering us another animated series with the backing of the original creators. sigh
Exactly they took a nice crisp fizzy refreshment and made it flat. Still better than he movie tho. Why won't the producers learn.. IF IT AINT BROKE DON'T FIX IT.
I hate that they basically removed Katara's personality. She's mostly just a blank slate in the live-action show. Her energy, passion, and rage are all practically gone. And it's even weirder that they gave Sokka some of Katara's personality traits like the scene when he tells Katara to grow up? Animated Katara basically raised that man, she's the more mature one. I also didn't like that the crew don't get to spend much time together, in all the middle episodes they are split up so they don't get a lot of time to develop as a team so it's hard to care about them as a team. *ALSO Azula was not Azulaing*
Something that I will never understand is why they decided to change Aang’s decision for running away with “temporarily going to clear his head”. Running away when things get hard is one of the most important aspects of Aang's character arc. He's the guy who avoids and evades. Refuses to face things head on. Retreats into denial when the genocide of his people is fairly obvious. Spends large quantities of the show doing ridiculous nonsense because he can't face the reality of how important his mission is. The Storm sets that flaw as his origin story, and it has ripples throughout the entirety of the show. God-forbid we make him cowardly and flawed, since people don’t like character flaws nowadays! Because growing and improving is something we do not have patience for.
The original cartoon had tons of moments where they simply showed you the characters so that you could feel alongside them. There wasn't a need for verbal explanation or expository dialogue. Confident fictions treat there audiences with the assumption of intelligence and trust you to feel on your own
@@yomamma.ismydaddy216 They're speed running the show... They're merging a lot of things together to give a deeper and more depth experience for the audience. This isn't retailing the cartoon, because the cartoon is great and never needed to change, but an adaptation
Two misses in my opinion was not having an agni-ki between Zuko and Zhao towards the beginning which really set the tone between the two and just how strong Zuko was and their hatred for each other. The other was not having the Jeong Jeong experience on fire bending, I feel this was a big miss not only on his path of learning the elements but also why Aang is so hesitant to learn fire bending down the road. My biggest dislikes were vindictive, angry Bumi, Zuko & Zhao working together and thus far pretty much everything about Azula.
For me the way they did the cave of the two lovers mean they got the legend of it how the tunnel were made but having sokka and katara didn’t make any sense but I was focusing more on the bending more specifically earth and fire bending
@@UncleTom854-bm5lvwhile I do agree that there is problems hope we realize it’s an adaptation not a remake and the original creators were going to change things too.
Azula is a psycho. This actress isn't giving. Zuko on the other hand was perfect. Yeah, he's missing a bit of edge but he has so much emotion that it works. Also, we got way too much Azula & the Fire Lord in Season 1. Like one maybe two scenes would have been plenty. Honestly my major issue with the show is the writing/story missed the entire point of what is important and made the animated series so good. Season 1 should have been more playful with Aang slowly realizing the gravity of his situation and what it means to be the Avatar in a world at war. King Bumi was written terribly. He's supposed to be a wise member of the Order of the White Lotus and forever youthful "Mad-Genius". Not the way they portrayed him in the Netflix series at all. Why was Aang the one teaching him lessons?! They didn't bring the spirit of the original to this one at all. AND I REALLY WANTED TO LOVE THIS because I like the cast and the visuals are so beautiful. Hopefully Season 2 will get it together (story/writing wise). Adults: They should have done what Harry Potter movies did, age with the audience. The first season should have been more fun. The second should be lessons learned with our Queen Toph. The third and final season can be much darker and mature. Like with the show. And IRL the actors will age so it makes sense to age the content with the actors over time.
yeah like him neglecting to learn waterbending would have been good if it could be attributed to him being more playful but it wasnt even so it was both overlooked and dumb.
My feeling is that a lot of the small unnecessary changes undermine the pacing & themes. Everyone goes around saying their innermost motivations, which hampers the unpeeling of these things; ends up feeling like Ember Island Players' read on the events
At this point i just accept that it is a whole other story and they are just other characters. Less interesting, sure. But that way they won t spit at the face of the originals.
Completely agree on the frustration of not seeing neither of them train in water bending. I'm like 'This is a show (in part) about training up your martial art to win a war! Where's the TRAINING!?'
Just shut up and enjoy. The show is very well done they put a lot of work all these people criticizing the show, work at Walmart. Don’t even have a career on nothing, and yet they talk about the show, like they were experts in casting, and put in a show together….
It just feels like across the board, everyone behind the show didn’t have an in depth understanding of the original. A prime example of that is Zuko as in the live action show, Zuko is focused on getting his throne back. Now, you might say that’s faithful to the original but the key difference is that while yes, Zuko wanted his throne back in the original, he was far more concerned with getting the love of his father and his honor back. Zuko only ever mentions getting his throne back like once or twice in the original, yet it is the main focus of his character in the remake. Having Zuko be more focused on the throne makes his character weaker because it seems like he’s more concerned with his inheritance rather than his own personal atonement, which was a far more engaging motivation for him. Now, it’s sorta understandable that the writers might make the mistake of having Zuko be more focused on his throne, but only if they don’t have an in depth understanding of the original. Make no mistake either, this misunderstanding of the original applies to pretty much every other character along with them clearly misunderstanding the events of the original story and the lore.
Perhaps characters don't always understand their own motivations, just like people in real life. Zuko may have been outwardly focused on regaining his throne, but his subconscious motivation was really to earn his father's love -- he just didn't allow himself to be aware of it. Perhaps then, in a future episode he will have an epiphany moment where he finally begins to understand himself. That would be good writing.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking this, from the original it was easy to tell Zuko was less concerned about actually being fire lord, but just wanted to be welcomed back into his homeland and family. The heavy focus on live Zuko wanting his throne instead of his Honor™️ back was a little jarring. It would be interesting to see how they address that without messing up the redemption arc lol
@@drea4195 M8 please. You're just doing mental gymnastics. In the real show what Zuko really wants is his father's love but interprets and masks it as his "honor" most of the time. This cosplay bootleg changing it to "throne" is absolutely not smart and deep. It's counterproductive. Besides with how much it has hated any subtlety so far it doesn't give any faith that it's going to be what you're making up for defense.
Yeah they totally missed zuko. Zuko is all about honor. Not entitlement about a throne. It shows when he fights with zhao, then during the storm, then when he goes after his uncle and finally when he tries to save Zhao from the water spirit... But they missed all characterisation. Aang didn t flee his responsabilities and doesn t have to deal with guilt. Sokka isn t stuck in his beliefs and challenged in his world views. Katara isn t the sole waterbender of the south, starving to find some teacher or any knowledge. Nor a fiery girl. Now she is just a meek girl who becomes a master with a couple old scroll from her grandma😅
Thank you for pointing out what bothered me the most - their lack of friendship. That’s what made the original so special. They supported each other through the good and bad.
Honor missing yea, but I was fortunate enough to watch an interview with the actor for Ozai before I saw much of his character with his kids and he said Ozai is a parent trying to prepare his kids for the world, but like most parents is failing and messing them up. It makes his character more interesting than just hating Zuko for being worse than his sister. He really believes he's doing the right thing and teaching his son about respect by banishing him, even if it's cruel and wrong.
I'm early on in the video, but I'm very quickly reminded of something I heard - if the acting is an issue across the board, then it often isn't an issue with the actors, but the directors.
A lot of those actors have proven themselves in other roles (be it iroh or katara, they did better elsewhere) So clearly, the issue here is the lack of direction. It also shows in all the fighting scenes. There was no direction, no choregraphy etc ...
Something about the way iroh dismisses the issues zukos crew has with him rubbed me the wrong way. And kind of made them both a little unlikable to me. I dont mind changes in general but the isolation that zuko feels is important to his growth, and so is dealing with the effects of his flaws and how he treats people. It would have worked better if Iroh talked to zuko about earning loyalty by being thoughtful leader.
They did the face stealer dirty IMO, it would have been so cool to see a live action aang have to be completely emotionless talking to that big ass monster, chucking in a few jump scares and it could have been a great scene
This is such a massive disappointment to me- Why should we be afraid of Ko now? Like seriously how is he even a threat at all if he can only steal the faces of people lost in the fog of souls 😵💫 I also think that introducing Avatar Kuruk was a big mistake, the way they slowly drop seeds in the original builds much more interest, it pays off more when you think back to Ko and realise it was Kuruk’s wife Ummi’s face that Ko took. If they wanted it to be more edgy and mature then Ko was a fantastic way to convey that but they watered him down so he’s pretty much no threat at all. Completely butchered everything to do with the spirit world honestly.
The original voice was so much more unsettling too. This koh is okayish. But the original was just scary, dangerous yet with this sirupy smooth calm voice...
With all critics aside, I still love how they did uncle Iroh's back story when his son died n have zuko gives hope to him, n with the Leaves from the vine instrumental played in the background, hands down gets my feels just like when uncle iroh celebrates his son's birthday in ba sing se.
The thing is, it works only because you know the original, are influenced by the pay off and character building of the original. If you haven t seen the original, it just comes out as a weird but okay scene and the music carries no signification. So on a media creation pov, it s a total failure, just living off the work of the original.
Now that you have said that, that makes sense n just shows how you need to be coming from the original source material first then to the live action "adaptation" to truly enjoy the show... Good point btw
Its even the other way round. They did that with a lot of things. The old switcheroo where it didn't make sense at all. Just to say: "Hey, see, what we did? We're so clever. Zuko seeing Appa and saying: Dont't worry! Zuko saying to Iroh: Luten would have been proud to be your son. (WHAT?) June being hot for Iroh. etc
Also in spirit episode Aang casually flies to the fire nation Roku temple. Meanwhile in anime Roku’s dragon takes Aang there in the spirit form. And later we discover how hard it is to get to the Roku temple in physical form guarded by the fire nation.
Not to speak of the inhuman exhaustion a non-stop flight there would represent. But everything is magic in this version. No respect for the orginal world building at all.
The notebook makes sense. Is very believable that Zuko would study and keep a dairy of everything he learn about the Avatar. Is not a ridiculous addition. 🙄
The loss of the original creators made this version feel like a high school stage play. A true testament to the soul the original show had and how it can't (and shouldn't be) replicated.
Huge fan of the original series. I agree the acting (and therefore the directing) was really green. It gave me the feelings I have going back and watching the first 2 Harry Potter movies when the main 3 characters were very obviously finding their acting chops. I was actually ok with the heaviness of the burden on Aang in the live action vs the animated. In the animated, you are watching a cartoon war and it grows in how serious it is as the show progresses. What I’m trying to get at is, it would have been more weird to watch real life human beings watch the avatar act like a kid and not be absolutely furious at the fact that he’s been gone 100 years and shows up and all he wants to do is goof off? They’ve been watching people die. He can’t go penguin sledding and ride the unagi in the live action without coming across as highly unlikeable. Some things play out well animated and don’t translate to real human beings.
Literally this. There was definitely some things wrong ofc, but people need to realize it is an adaptation that deals with real human beings and emotions. It’s meant to be a little different.
I agree. I think the show was actually good. Just needs some work acting wise and slightly with character building. Could have been way worse though. Could have been cheesy or canny as hell, Horrible effects, etc. But it wasn’t any if that tbf
I think there might be more nuance to how people would react to Aang’s goofiness/childlike behavior. Yeah most of the older folk would probably be bitter and reprimand him but I feel like a lot of people would be in disbelief/shock or even hopeful that the Avatar had returned, considering he is somewhat of a mythical figure at this point. I don’t think everyone would be pissed at him especially considering that it’s human nature to want to hold on to the positive and good things in life. I’ve met many people going through hardship or with traumatic upbringings who remain light in spirit.
I think bad writing was a much bigger problem than bad acting. Ex. They told us they were friends without showing us. There is a ridiculous amount of exposition and the pacing was wonky. The mutilation of katara’s character was the biggest blunder for me.
They took a great female character and made her a Mary Sue. They took physically fit characters who can preform incredible gymnastics and martial arts, and chose overweight actors who def can not preform any of those physical demands. They took the most loved Uncle on TV of all time and made him boring. They took storylines and just threw them out the window, or rushed through them. The fact they made Yue a knowledge seeking fox is completely ridiculous Wan Shi Ton should only be in the library. EVER
Even after all the many Big mistakes I still feel like they have the ability to make this work if there is a season 2 to this. If season two works well with toph and story changes blend in it would be cool to see
IMO - The Netflix live adaptation truly hits the mark, checking all the boxes for what makes a great live-action adaptation. While some reviews nitpick about missing scenes from the animated series, I believe it's a wise choice. Replicating every scene and dialogue line by line would eliminate the surprise factor, making it a mere copy-paste of the animated version and predictable. I appreciate the innovative touch, like the Earth Kingdom spy chase in the opening scene of episode 1, offering a fresh perspective for both animated series veterans and new viewers. For the pacing, appears they opted to streamline some scenes, omitting other the intricate details. This decision likely aimed to prioritize essential scenes and maintain a dynamic pace in the live-action adaptation, preventing the plot from becoming drawn out.
This is exactly how I would interpret the differences. If anything, it brings a more cinematic feel to see some sense of interconnection between the many different and essential plot lines that stem from the original show. There's simply not enough time! It really just feels like people don't appreciate innovations these days, which is something that baffles me 🙄
"It was so diverse!!! I was so happy with that!!!" (*2 seconds later*) "The acting needs SERIOUS work..." Yeah... no shit. That's what happens when you hire people based on looks and ethnicity and not on skill or talent. There's nothing wrong with hiring a very talented actor and putting them in costume or makeup to visually fit the look of the character. It's called ACTING for a reason. It's not meant to be taken as a serious offense. Otherwise... we'd want Leo Dicaprio's head on a plate for his role in Django. 👀
Saying Asian people can't be good actors is racist, saying a white person could've done it better is racist. If you think someone else could've done it better please give names of who you would've cast. And there is something wrong with dressing someone to look Asian to take an ethnic role, that's close to what black face was. This show had an all Asian cast which is a beautiful thing. These people were cast because they ARE good actors who also looked like the characters and had similar personality and chemistry, if you think the acting seems bad it's the director's fault for saying that's how they wanted it. Or the fans who think the acting is bad are just wrong and mad that Katata isn't more angry looking. It is an opinion after all. But some things don't translate to live action so they probably cut a lot of the animated expressions that probably would've looked bad. I believe in the people doing this show being fans and the blue spirit sequemce tells me if they could've kept details they cut they would have.
@@cutecats532 THIS. And even though it started with bad acting, I could see it improving by the end, some of them actually managed to channel the characters as they got used to it. Like some other commenter said, it's kinda like how they werent very credible in the first couple Harry Potters. Let the fresh blood get their grasp on the characters !
@@cutecats532the writing was horrendous, but don’t be telling these lies. The actors & actresses cast for this are horrible. Sokka actor is the probably best of him, Aang, & Katara. And he was mediocre at best. These kids are not seasoned actors and they all have multiple cringe dialogue scenes. Writing didn’t help, but this entire cast was not it. Honestly, only the Zuko actor nailed the role of the younger characters
@@cutecats532 something tells me your the racist one if you immediately take "These actors were bad at their roles" and turn it into "Asians are bad actors" could be just me but that feels pretty bad to insinuate
yeah the most disappointment i got from this are mai and azula cast, they were some of my childhood crush so i was hoping both of them to look sexy in dominating way, but atleast june looks pretty hot
Alot if people thought the original creators left the Netflix project because Netflix wanted to change it up but in reality the original creators wanted to change it up but Netflix didn't want to. The original creators have stated multiple times they don't like doing the same thing twice
The original creators leaving was the nail in the coffin for me. One piece respected Oda's views and because of that the audience loved it. Who would've thought that respecting the original story with an existing audience would do better than making a show changing the original story for an imaginary audience?
The problem is y’all tryna compare, “in the original, this that”… that’s why it will never be good to you!!! I’m glad they renewed it for season 2&3 🕺!
One of my biggest problems for the show was there was no "filler". People look down on filler because they think it distracts from the plot but you have a hour worth of an episode you can put aside 30 secs of these kids just being kids!
Netflix needs to stop hiring junior writers for such a big IP. HIRE PROFESSIONAL WRITERS. The only reason onepiece was so good was because the original writer was in it. The witcher was so bad because of the horrid and new writers.
There are alot of fans who loved it too. I'm one of them them. The Audience is 75% on Rotten Tomatos. Which tells me more people liked it than hated it.
Trusting critics is more reliable than the audience rating. Most audience members who can be traced to leave reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are either passionately for, or passionately against. The critic scores are a numerical aggregate of the ratings given by all the critics that have reviewed the film. You don't have to review the series to leave an audience rating. The audience score is an aggregate of all the people who have *chosen* to give the film a score on Rotten Tomatoes. People who choose to give a film a score on Rotten Tomatoes tend not to be on average representative of filmgoers in general, because most filmgoers don’t bother to give the film a score on Rotten Tomatoes. This means that it tends to be people who either *really* like a film, or *really don’t* like it, who bother to go to Rotten Tomatoes and register their like or dislike. Critics aren’t writing for Rotten Tomatoes, they’re writing for their own publications, or their own blogs, so they have to write about the film, because it’s their *job*, or because their blog will lack credibility if they don’t. So, I would be less inclined to trust the passionate partisanship of people leaving their one-sentence reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, and more inclined to trust the reviews of people who saw the film out of a sense of duty. The latter are… *… less nuts*
@@KayceWoo the critics are idiots and largely irrelevant, the audience is what actually matters, what pays for and consumes the media. And Rotten Tomatoes is like the buzzfeed of cinema ratings... Nobody takes it seriously
@rath979 professionals that do this for their own publications, or their own blogs, so they have to write about the film, because it’s their *job* are the idiots but not the randos that go make the review with zero qualification's 😂 Comon.
I loved it too... until you actually watch it for the story and not for the visual effects and for the fanservice, like future characters showing up that are irrelevant for the plot.
The thing is they only needed one more episode to reach the same run time of the original first season, these people had the formula and everything and still screwed it up. No wonder the original LAB writers left.
I really liked that they remixed all the episodes as someone who is seen the original more than six times. Because I already knew the plot it remained interesting to me to see how they’ve changed things up and what interesting combinations they came up with.
My thing with the notebook… the entire purpose originally for Zuko to catch the avatar was to reclaim his honor. But the notebook made him look like a closet fanboy. I will say, the scene when Aang complimented his penmanship, I found it wholesome. But also should only exist in a parallel universe aka fanfic.
To be fair. It s kind of understandable that he would compile any clues on the avatar to find him. But the penmanship conversation is just awful, because they did show the diary and his penmanship is on a toddler s level 😅 It d be like complimenting this adaptation for being a masterpiece.😅
Just want to add: the music for me was excelent! I play traditional asian instruments and I loved they used them. They even changed the sounds and instruments from culture to culture, which made the world building more detailed.
I don't understand why a live action Avatar is the hardest thing to make. Like they literally just need to do a 1 to 1 adaptation and people would love it. No one asked for a more serious Avatar, that's what Kora is for.
I think most of the backlash has come from hardcore fans and critics. The audience grade is in the 7.5-8 range and it seems to be very popular on Netflix rn
Trusting critics is more reliable than the audience rating. Most audience members who can be traced to leave reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are either passionately for, or passionately against. The critic scores are a numerical aggregate of the ratings given by all the critics that have reviewed the film. You don't have to review the series to leave an audience rating. The audience score is an aggregate of all the people who have *chosen* to give the film a score on Rotten Tomatoes. People who choose to give a film a score on Rotten Tomatoes tend not to be on average representative of filmgoers in general, because most filmgoers don’t bother to give the film a score on Rotten Tomatoes. This means that it tends to be people who either *really* like a film, or *really don’t* like it, who bother to go to Rotten Tomatoes and register their like or dislike. Critics aren’t writing for Rotten Tomatoes, they’re writing for their own publications, or their own blogs, so they have to write about the film, because it’s their *job*, or because their blog will lack credibility if they don’t. So, I would be less inclined to trust the passionate partisanship of people leaving their one-sentence reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, and more inclined to trust the reviews of people who saw the film out of a sense of duty. The latter are… *… less nuts*
@@KayceWooIf the critics had rated it high and audiences hated it, you would be saying the opposite, that critics are paid off, or something, and only trust audiences. You just want your views valudated.
Azusa really is too..uhmm….big.. I know it’s a little mean but she doesn’t look as athletic. Also she CAN NOT fire bend/lightning bend. She doesn’t know how to do it. Lightning bending doesn’t work like that. Also her Firebending isn’t blue :(
HAHAH thank you. I've been saying this everywhere. Since when do you electrocute yourself while lightning bending? Are we not respecting the original attention to detail, with well worked out choreography and a REAL martial arts master? .. Guess not! Let's do some corny movements instead, nobody will notice. Exactly what the orginal creators didn't want. It looking like Disney magic...
The show is very good. I think they did an excellent job adapting the story. With only eight episodes they were able to tell the story, brought in all the important characters, didn’t forget about details, and what they did change made sense. Fans need to relax and stop expecting adaptations to be identical. This was not as good as the show, but unlike the movie, this was a great show. The show also has more seasons and therefore opportunities to add things they may have missed. Overall the changes or misses didn’t ruined the experience of the show.
Dear Creators, yall doing a wonderful job, however, take y’all’s time. Don’t rush it. Follow the literal script of the anime version. Watch where this show goes. Guarantee it blows up
Are we expecting an exact copy of the series though? Im asking as a huge fan myself... like I was happy they changed it a bit... otherwise it would not be a surprise at all! Still missed the capture of Aang from Zuko though!
Zuko was almost helpless and portrayed as weak until nearing the last arc when he was finally able to redirect lightning. That makes his growth and arcs more appreciated but they took that away by letting him (almost) win Agni Kai had it not for his "hesitation" (which in the original was actually complete fear when he saw he was facing his dad, and that makes Ozai all the more something to be feared).
I think one thing they were definitely struggling with was understanding the perspective of the main audience/fandom that grew up watching this show as children. We all tend to remember certain things from the show through a lens of emotion and impact, at least moreso than the novelty of the world (tho that novelty is what grabbed our attention and made it all linger longer). For example, Koh was impactful BECAUSE we knew he might steal Aang's face, and we were all on the edge of our seats worried that Aang would mess up, and left wondering if WE could even pull it off. This made everything even scarier, with Koh's very distrubing design solidifying it as nightmare fuel to us kids. It also sneakily tought us a little bit more about how we all physically express our emotions. We didn't just enjoy the Koh story for the novelty of seeing a creepy spirit, we enjoyed it because it was so freaking intense and hype! Without the right vibe, its meaningless. Another aspect to consider is that most of us tuned into the show through TV re-runs, and so we didnt always know why a character was there or who they really were. The creators knew this would be the case, so to avoid too much confusion, they made almost every episode its own standalone story (though a piece of a bigger arc) and they simplified each character into a trope that was easy to understand. You tuned in and saw an angry, volatile guy with a scar shooting fire out of his body and you thought "Oh, so he's the villain! And it makes sense that he's a firebender too because he's so angry and mean! He's just like fire itself!" The impact of much of what we saw as kids can largely be boiled down to a few words per episode and a few words per character, which capture general vibes, tropes, or emotions surrounding these things. And the Netflix version failed to capture A TON of that nuance in this adaptation. They didn't bother to think about how these stories impacted us or their lessons, or how we understood certain characters growing up. Instead, they just focused on the existence of those individual things themselves, thus removing them of their emotional attachment.
I loved it. I thought it was really well done. The ONLY issue I have is the casting choices for Azula, Mai and Ty Lee. Outside of that I think people aren't giving this show enough credit. And I hope for a season 2.
I think a lot of these criticisms are simply stemming from the fact that they compressed an entire season's worth of narratives in to eight hours. That's a sacrifice natural to TV making, regardless of source material. Hopefully they take people's feedback to heart and perhaps take season 2 a little slower.
Maybe the whole not learning water bending for Aang is to stretch it out (more seasons - less episodes), which would make sense for the format. I kind of liked how Katara was portrayed as very independent with her learning, even though it was a little fast, and I'd sacrifice a little of the deeper development with Aang for that in season 1. With that said, I do think season two first couple of episodes need to really sell the bonding and friendship, otherwise the stakes don't really work (whenever they had to save each other this season it felt more like obligation/plot-points than that they actually cared). Edit: I do think this season could've benefited a lot from an extra episode. More journey/bonding oriented and with some training/goofing off. Kind of like a filler but just to make some relationships/skills fall into place and feel more natural.
I have to disagree about Zhao he went from being an ambitious cunning villain who planned things years in advance. To an ego driven goober who’s motivation is “nobody notices me” and has to have his big plan handed to him by the fire sage
Stop comparing the show to the anime, it will never meet your expectations. netflix only have 8 episodes this season, not 20+, so stuff will be cut out
7:07 my issue with it is Aang is practically teaching Katara FIREBENDING! firebending is about feeling the energy in the world around you while waterbending is finding a flow and adapting. Here's the quotes "Fire is the element of power. The people of the Fire Nation have desire and will, and the energy and drive to achieve what they want." and "Water is the element of change. The people of the Water Tribes are capable of adapting to many things. They have a sense of community and love that holds them together through anything."
I believe they took out Pakku finding the necklace for the same reasons they changed Sokka's sexism. They wanted to avoid making Katara being accepted as a waterbender of her own merit versus some old guy reminiscing about her grandma and letting her join. That Agni Kai was horrible. Missed the whole point of it. It was supposed to show Zuko refusing to fight, his father seeing the weakness, but instead he fights back? Defeats the entire purpose.
My main problem is how the series was SO GOOD at depicting the kinetic energy of bending. That was a HUGE part of the show. Earthbenders have to take a strong stance, put some Bravado in their moves to make earth move. Then in the opening scene of netflix avatar, a guy is just running while half-assedly waving his arms around to make earth move. I already knew it was going to be terrible.
the original ATLA was mature enough for the adult, idk why netflix bother to change that. Migh aswell add a sex scene, if they want to attract GoT audience lol
Their clothing was too clean. Its the same problem I had with Alladin in Disneys live action. The dirt, holes, snagged threads on the clothes actually helps to bring the characters to life and make them real. But everything was just looks too perfect. So it feels and looks like cosplay.
I didn't like how they made Aang scared of everything and speak as if he's always asking a question. In the original he's quite knowledgeable and brave.
I'll just say that I wish they would have let Stephen Chow make it instead. I think his creative talent for making live action animated comedy could have done it justice.
Around 10 minutes in you say a phrase that describes much of my reaction to the season: they missed the opportunity to make so much of a lot better. I have theories as to why they fell short, but won’t discuss them here. Overall, it wasn’t bad. It could have a lot worse, but should have been a lot better. I was hopeful going in, came out a bit disappointed. It’s like getting to play 7 minutes in heaven in junior high, then finding out it was with your ugly cousin…
The entire set/costumes made it feel like cosplay to me. Strictly because no one looked ever hot, cold, sweaty or out of place. Very controlled sets. (Which obviously make it easier to shoot and reset)
Based on the fact the people of the Northern Water Tribe live in a North Pole-like area, their clothes should have some abrasion of the surface due to their hunting routine, or some parts covered with frost or maybe hardened in the cold temperature. And shouldn't they breathe out fog whenever they open their mouth, especially talking? That's basic science. The Kyoshi Warriors should also have abrasion on their clothes, espacially on the joints and palms, some parts could also have patches or stitches, and even have parts of the fabric torn and ripped, it not only shows they are experienced fighters, but also tells the audience how tough they are.
In the first 2 episodes Aang looks SO SHORT compared to Katara. Like holy shit I was thinking "there is no way Katara would enter into a relationship with this toddler"
All i wanted was just Azula being both as similar to the character as in the animated series and also visually look like the one that was in the atla movie ending scene. And i got a soft jealous sister :/
I pretty much agree with all your points. I didn’t have many issues with the Spirit world stuff. Except for Wan Shi Tong. He had no narrative purpose whatsoever. Especially since they cut the Zhao finding the library. The Yue addition in the spirit world was ok. It’s odd they chose a Fox form considering the lore. I would have believed a fish instead. Maybe they just wanted to fake out the fans? But still I think it sets up her spiritual connection and her relationship with Sokka well. It’s nice that she is able to be engaged with her relationship with Sokka instead of constantly pushing away.
I was cautiously optimistic. Especially since the creators left. I knew it was going to be different, because it’s Netflix, but damn!!! The unnecessary changes they made….makes no sense. Learned no Water Bending, Aang can fly, Katara is a Masterless Waterbending Master and Sokka isn’t Sokka anymore.
The original creators of Avatar need to colab with Hulu or something. I hate the netflix version. Aang is so uptight in the show. Suki is made like shes got no social skills. Suki was made to be badass not shy
I studied adaptation theory as part of my graduating class in uni and so I have a lot of opinions on adaptations and where modern adaptions tend to fail which is exactly what happened here. Visuals can't save bad adaptation, a beautiful show is only going to be stained by not understanding the source and the reasoning behind pacing, themes, and characterization. Even more because this show does so much to understand conflicts that stem from war-- refugees, propaganda, torn families, and how everyone suffers in conflict. Filler episodes do just that, it highlights so much of the suffering others have and uses it to bring understanding to the characters, often teaching them lessons along the way that as kids they need to learn. It uses things like sexism to explore how cultures create those dynamics through Sokka and Pakku, it explores the concepts of what it means to be forced to grow up too young-- avatars aren't meant to be told until they are 16 for a reason and we see how that deeply effected Aang by trying to run and hold onto being a child, and how suffering shapes us in many ways-- Katara often being angry at her loss while Iroh's lost taught him nothing good comes from violence and war thus peaceful. etc. To be a serious show they should have understood through the humor and art it was already serious, because this is how children perceive the world. So much was lost because they didn't understand the fundamentals of the show before trying to adapt, rather wanting to focus on visuals which has been a standard in adaptions which has sadly continued to curse a medium that doesn't have to be bad!
The problem with dropping the “filler episodes” is that you need them for a show like this, where all the fans really love the characters. To me, none of the characters or their relationships had the same depth. And the only reason I felt anything for that funeral scene is because I know what I know from the original because that scene was not good and the writing was weird.
My main issues: -Katara: they could've chosen a more brown/darker tone female to play her role. And she's not at motherly/assertive as the original show. -Zuko: his rash and left eyebrow were annoying me. They could've added more damage and had his ear damaged aswell. They could've made that one piece about him more accurate. And it would've added more character if his "rash" was an actual burn. -Iroh:..... I think we all can agree, they should've told buddy who played him to learn how to speak like Iroh. Without the wise tone, he just doesn't seem believable. -Azula: Needless to say, they could've chosen a more edgy, stylish, and attractive female to play her role. Arguably, she should've been the hottest female character on the show due to the original styling, attitude, tone, and character design. They should've chosen someone else for the role with more defined facial features than the roundness of her face.
It's very sad that these so called modern creative types just seem to be incapable of understanding the original source material and why parts of it are so important and beloved to the Last Air Benders fans.
