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Why football shirt numbers are different by country.
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Shirt numbers were first used in European football on August 25th, 1928 in matches between Sheffield Wednesday and Arsenal, and Chelsea and Swansea Town. These fixtures began the convention of numbering players right to left, back to front, based on pitch location.
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@splodgethekangaroo
@splodgethekangaroo 4 года назад
"The number 10 symbolises attacking ability, flair, and creativity" William Gallas: "Hold my beer"
@atlante4368
@atlante4368 4 года назад
Lassana Diarra: hey, hold MY beer!
@DarkshadeMusic
@DarkshadeMusic 4 года назад
Khalid Boulahrouz wore a 9 at Chelsea. LOL.
@TonySpike
@TonySpike 4 года назад
*Quick Google to find Heskeys squad numbers*
@Tjoan24
@Tjoan24 4 года назад
Rui Patricio 😂
@KartikBharadwaj
@KartikBharadwaj 4 года назад
Gallas wearing a number 10 for us has to be one of the biggest mistakes by the club.
@ramshacklealex7772
@ramshacklealex7772 4 года назад
The way Joe says "shirt numbers" at the beginning makes it sound like he's shocked that such a thing could exist. Shirt numbers?!
@cowboycatss
@cowboycatss 4 года назад
Shirt numbers? The fuck are those?
@MrFilbert28
@MrFilbert28 4 года назад
Joe is too old school for shirt numbers
@therecklessengineer5796
@therecklessengineer5796 4 года назад
I thought he said shit thumpers
@nigefal
@nigefal 4 года назад
Yeah he has a funny tone about him. Would make a great children's tv presenter - a missed calling!?
@ThreeLeftOverCrest
@ThreeLeftOverCrest 4 года назад
Yeah man, wtf is going on with those crazy shirt numbers
@terretetetito
@terretetetito 4 года назад
In Argentina it's so clear what positions the shirt numbers 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 9 represent that a lot of times when we talk about a position we don't even say the name, we say the number. For example: saying "número 5" or "el cinco" is waaay more common than saying "mediocampista defensivo", "el volante de contención", etc.
@TonySpike
@TonySpike 4 года назад
For a second their I thought you were going to say "because the only number that matters is 10" lol
@Ivanmaradonaaa
@Ivanmaradonaaa 4 года назад
@@TonySpike I agree and I'm Mexican
@maximilianklein9045
@maximilianklein9045 4 года назад
In Germany we don't say the numbers except for 6,8,9,10. Because other numbers don't sound well. For example we say "Zehner", "Sechser", "Achter", "Neuner". Any other number sounds kinda stupid in my opinion xD
@denersouza8125
@denersouza8125 4 года назад
Same in Brazil, except for number 5, that position is always a volante, number 9 is so strong with that role that in teams that use any other role for that striker he's not considered a 9, even if he wears the number. Also, something funny happened when Daniel Alves signed with São Paulo and they gave him the number 10, people started making jokes about it, saying "my 2 wears the 10" even if he was going to play in the midfield at this point of his career.
@andrespatrone8641
@andrespatrone8641 4 года назад
Si, y está bien explicada la diferencia con Uruguay. Para nosotros el lateral izquierdo es el 6, pero para ustedes el 3. Bien hecho el video.
@BeachPleased
@BeachPleased 4 года назад
I always notice only England use no.4 as DMF... but never questions why, Javiet Zanneti the noticeable RB wear no 4, while Roberto Carlos wear no 6 as LB great video as always
@samuelyee4017
@samuelyee4017 4 года назад
Roberto Carlos wore number 3 in real Madrid while his national team Jersey number was number 6
@thomasschaafstra4780
@thomasschaafstra4780 4 года назад
Every team has a different numbering, the cb’s at England have the numbers 5 and 6 where the Netherlands has 3 and 4
@GhostHPM
@GhostHPM 4 года назад
@HerrNilssonTheMonkey not sure, but I think 6 was Hierro's shirt
@alonsobruni8131
@alonsobruni8131 4 года назад
When Bristol City signed Adam Nagy from Bologna, he switched from 8 to 4, so he gave respect to England :)
@nelsonpenaherrera1769
@nelsonpenaherrera1769 4 года назад
V-Factor the Dutch Italians and the Spaniards also used no. 4 as DMF. E.g. Pep Guardiola at Barça and Frank Rijkaard at Ajax and Albertini at AC Milan
@ozeirGD
@ozeirGD 4 года назад
"11 is tricky, pacey wingers..." Rui Patricio: hold my hands
@samuelyee4017
@samuelyee4017 4 года назад
ozeir suhaimi rui patricio did not take number 1 from Carl Ikeme as he respected a player who was forced to retired due to the terminal disease that he got
@stephenmcc05
@stephenmcc05 4 года назад
Ihwanul Alim the most overrated player to ever grace a football pitch
@ozeirGD
@ozeirGD 4 года назад
@@samuelyee4017 is just a joke buddy
@ozeirGD
@ozeirGD 4 года назад
@Ihwanul Alim hell yeah and Gareth Bale aswell and Neymar when he was at Barcelona
@stephenmcc05
@stephenmcc05 4 года назад
Kelvin he was overrated because of his trophies, despite scoring less than 10 goals a season.
@AliBaba-vv3rb
@AliBaba-vv3rb 4 года назад
I moved to England last year, and when people ask me where I play on the pitch I'm used to replying I'm a 6. I was kinda surprised to see it doesn't have the same significance and is not as self-explanatory as it is in France.
@MakedonskoChojek
@MakedonskoChojek 2 года назад
Weird, because people in Australia refer to the CDM position as a 6 also Would’ve assumed we got it from England but I guess not
@MrFilbert28
@MrFilbert28 4 года назад
Dutch football: 3 for RCB 5 for LB 6 for DM 14 for Johan Cruyff
@christopheralegria71
@christopheralegria71 4 года назад
I see what you did there. 👍
@frederikbrandt424
@frederikbrandt424 4 года назад
You forgot 0 for the number major tournaments participated in since 2014!
@MrFilbert28
@MrFilbert28 4 года назад
@@frederikbrandt424 and qualified for the next one so you can just shut up
@frederikbrandt424
@frederikbrandt424 4 года назад
MrFilbert28 Ahahahahaha still crying little guy? Facts are facts...
@chiiv999
@chiiv999 4 года назад
Frederik Brandt 2-4
@ferhathebbache923
@ferhathebbache923 4 года назад
that explains why the Left Back Roberto Carlos wore number 6
@erastomtima8260
@erastomtima8260 4 года назад
Tit me the same
@stormmeansnowork
@stormmeansnowork 4 года назад
Traditionally the Brazilian LB is 6 and 16, while on the right hand side, 2 and 13 / 14. And then 3, 4, 5 are surely defensive players (where 3 and 4 are almost certainly CBs), but the 5 mostly DMF, or CB, in rare cases like 2002. Unlike many other countries, the 8 (as characterised by Dunga and Gilberto Silva in the modern days) is usually a defensive mid-fielder, but it also see more offensive roles in the 2006 Kaka or a more central role in Paulinho and more recently Arthur. Little needs to be said of 9 and 10, except a notable exception in the 1994 number 9, Zinho, being a MF. 7 and 11 are the more flexible ones in Brazil, where 11 have seen a DMF in Ze Roberto to OMF in Ronaldinho, Oscar and later on LWF Robinho and Neymar (in his earlier years). 7 is likewise, Emerson (prior to withdrawal from the 2002 team) as a DMF to the more recent Douglas Costa as a RWF. But the most famous exception to the 7 and 11 is of course the baby rocking pair of the 1994 team. Beyond that, if there can still be a pattern, it must be that 12 is almost always the reserve GK (except the 2018 Marcelo), the aforementioned 13, 14, 16 and then the 20 21 being attackers.
@atlante4368
@atlante4368 4 года назад
Roberto Carlos's 3 in Real Madrid was iconic, IMO. As much as Zidane's 5.
@stormmeansnowork
@stormmeansnowork 4 года назад
@@atlante4368 They are, but this video focuses on the national team.
@ferhathebbache923
@ferhathebbache923 4 года назад
@@atlante4368 Watch again the video when he was speaking about brazil numbers, the left back traditionally was number 6 the number of Roerto Carlos with Brazil.
@h4vehart
@h4vehart 4 года назад
I'm a squad number enthusiast and I can not describe how much I enjoyed this video. Thank you for this!
@thorneukranz
@thorneukranz 4 года назад
me too! I really liked it. they choose a "ferroviario-mt" tshirt! It is a 3th division team, even brazilians fans didn't know them yet. awesome job!
@BadDayLp
@BadDayLp 4 года назад
In germany we go even further than just the "Sechser" The defensiv midfielders are called (like in the video) "Sechser" (coming from Sechs = six). Our central midfielders are called "Achter" (coming from Acht = eight) and our offensive midfielders are the "Zehner" (Coming from Zehn = ten) Additionally some numbers have a sweet spots on some positions: 1 is obviously the Goalkeeper 12 is banned from most germany teams, because the Fans are the " twelfth" man on the pitch. 9 and 11 are almost everytime strikers 7 is def. a winger 2, 3, 4 are almost always defenders 5 is either a defender or a deep lying midfielder And sometimes, but i think this happens outside of Germany as well, we give the number 10 not to the OM, but to the best player of the squad
@kyoshiroma
@kyoshiroma 4 года назад
Pretty similar in most part of Latin America.
@tymonwojcik6523
@tymonwojcik6523 4 года назад
How about 88
@gdefinition551
@gdefinition551 4 года назад
@@tymonwojcik6523 How about to stfu?
@SlowBrakes
@SlowBrakes 4 года назад
"Number 5 like Lucas Biglia" proceeds to use drawing of him wearing number 6
@TheFrede2300
@TheFrede2300 4 года назад
I can't explain how much it annoys me when a player wears a number that just doesn't fit their position or play style. Probably not the only one that feels this way
@arifssaid
@arifssaid 4 года назад
Zidane's no 5, Lassana Diarra's 10 and Ivan Cordoba's 3 always bugged me but thanks to this video now I understand why
@stevetheiii477
@stevetheiii477 4 года назад
@@arifssaid and messi wearing no.10 is an absolute joke as well
@enzoli23
@enzoli23 4 года назад
yeah, me too :D but only sometimes... Asamoah Gyan's #3 or Rui Patrício's #11 bugs me, while Sebastien Corchia's #2 not :O
@victoralbano97
@victoralbano97 4 года назад
@@stevetheiii477 why?
@victoralbano97
@victoralbano97 4 года назад
messi is the typical number 10
@waex3344
@waex3344 4 года назад
Thanks for clearing up why Brazilian always have a number 6 left back. Learned so much.
@arunjaswal3091
@arunjaswal3091 4 года назад
GK: 1 RB: 2 CB: 4 CB: 5 LB: 3 CM/CDM: 6 CM/CAM/CDM: 8 RW: 11 CAM: 10 LW: 7 ST: 9 That's how I see it
@hauntingpuns
@hauntingpuns 4 года назад
Agree with all except RW 7 LW 11
@chrismascarenhas1059
@chrismascarenhas1059 4 года назад
Pin-Tsun Huang they are interchangeable Neymar used to be number 11 left wing where Ronaldo is a left wing 7 dembele is a rw with number 11 and mbappe is rw number 7
@bunchifybunch
@bunchifybunch 4 года назад
@@hauntingpuns I'd say 7 and 11 are kind of interchangable, but I do associate 7 more with right-sided players. Probably because I grew up in the Beckham era.
@rikkj1910
@rikkj1910 4 года назад
In Italy we use: GK: 1 RB: 2 CB: 5 CB: 6 LB: 3 CDM: 4 CM: 8 RW: 7 LW: 11 CAM: 10 ST: 9
@valen5567
@valen5567 4 года назад
argentinian version: gk: 1 rb: 4 cb: 2 cb: 6 lb: 3 cdm: 5 cm: 8 Rw: 7 cam: 10 lw: 11 st: 9
@sharvagya
@sharvagya 4 года назад
This video went over my head
@Ese96Agoaye
@Ese96Agoaye 4 года назад
Speaking of which, I do recall an Inter Milan player wearing “1+8” as another player was already 9. Also, I recall more recently William Gallas wearing 10 despite the number being odd for a defender.
@samuelyee4017
@samuelyee4017 4 года назад
Players who desire for number 9 jersey when they unable to choose number 9 will choose alternative number such as Balotelli 45, Ilicic 72
@atlante4368
@atlante4368 4 года назад
Ivan Zamorano used "1+8" if I recall correctly. Patrick Cutrone uses the number 63 because 6+3=9. Ugly number. At least do as Klinsmann and use the 18.
@mmw4990
@mmw4990 4 года назад
Rui Patricio wears number 11 despite being a goalkeeper. Etoo was number 4 at Everton
@mickybricks1113
@mickybricks1113 4 года назад
Yes Ivan zamarano wore 1+8 at inter. He did intially wear his preferred 9 but when inter signed Roberto baggio he took the number 10 shirt from Ronaldo who was assigned 9 instead. I think this pissed zamarano off because he wasn't consulted so he demanded the 1+8 as a sort of retaliation. That's the story I remember hearing as a kid anyway.
@ryanking2155
@ryanking2155 4 года назад
Micky Bricks heard the exact same story 👍
@ryanking2155
@ryanking2155 4 года назад
Who remembers these out-of-place numbers: Mihajlovic 11 Dempsey 2 Asamoah Gyan 3 Baros 5 😂 😂 😂
@youravgcomment
@youravgcomment 4 года назад
Dont the legendary no 10, Gallas
@RafaelSetiawanRS16
@RafaelSetiawanRS16 4 года назад
umm, paul scharner, no 7? to be fair he's not entirely a CB, can come as attacking midfielder at times
@m.rizalarvandy4510
@m.rizalarvandy4510 4 года назад
Ardiles #1 because of numbering based on surname alphabetical order lol
@ejaaz7260
@ejaaz7260 4 года назад
Phil Jones once wore no 7 for England
@ms_0317
@ms_0317 4 года назад
Rui Patricio nr 11
@stormmeansnowork
@stormmeansnowork 4 года назад
The Italian and Argentina teams in the 1980s and 1994 (only Italy) also see some interesting patterns. Argentina in those years assigned numbering (except Maradona) by alphabetical orders of surnames, which saw their GK assigned a single digit number other than 1, and 1 given to a MF. This could not happen anymore since FIFA mandated 1 to be assigned exclusively to the GK in recent decades. Italy back then was similar - but with a slightly different principle. With the exception of the GKs, all its 1982 players were numbered with the DFs taking the smaller numbers, then the MFs and then the FWs, whereas in their 1994 team, with the exception of the GKs, Baresi and R. Baggio, everyone else are numbered in the same principle, and then probably by the alphabetical order of their surnames.
@BOABModels
@BOABModels 3 года назад
I really like the traditional use of shirt numbers - I used to wear my favourite number, 2 and I was a right back. I heard that Steven Gerrard didn't want to wear 10 for England, preferring number 4 as that's what he saw as his role.
@12thMandalorian
@12thMandalorian 4 года назад
Always known the back four to have 2 and 3 as full backs, 4 and 5 as Centre backs
@mahirrughani2485
@mahirrughani2485 4 года назад
ThatRedHairedDude i was waiting for this the whole video. Was shocked when it wasn’t England. Looks like we somehow got the German system ingrained in our heads.
@filipeantunes8848
@filipeantunes8848 4 года назад
In Portugal 2 and 5 are full backs 3 and 4 centre backs Its fun to see the differences
2 года назад
Pretty much 2,3,4,5 are the Defenders
@EderBernardo11
@EderBernardo11 4 года назад
Great video. In Santos Futebol Clube, we are the only brazilian club that have a tradition like the Argentina's number, with 2 and 6 Central Back.
@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS
@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS 4 года назад
This explains why Redondo was number 5... and a few other Argentinian holding midfielders too 👏⚽️
@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS
@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS 4 года назад
Ha I wrote this comment before it mentioned Redondo 🤦‍♂️
@franciscosebastianfloresze3781
@franciscosebastianfloresze3781 4 года назад
Great video as always. All my life i tought this was a worldwide conventional system but the fact that it was adapted in each country by how they change their tactics it's just amazing. And love the inclusion of Riquelme in the higlighted number 10s.
@ndjk2821
@ndjk2821 4 года назад
This is the content I subscribe to Tifo for. I learned something completely new.
@thiagomonteiro8045
@thiagomonteiro8045 4 года назад
E esse uniforme do Operário-MT aí no final hein
@julioteodoro7018
@julioteodoro7018 4 года назад
vim correndo ver se alguém tinha reconhecido, tinha muita cara de uniforme brasileiro
@Mondragora99
@Mondragora99 2 года назад
Eu parei o vídeo e pensei "mas esse é o uniforme do Op... não é possível que eles colocaram a camisa do Operário no vídeo O_O" xD.
@bruhguy3770
@bruhguy3770 4 года назад
Nobody: Tifo: Posts at 11:00 PM Me: Sacrifices must be made
@3dsaulgoodman43
@3dsaulgoodman43 4 года назад
Where are you from? It's 2 pm at my place.
@starganstar2016
@starganstar2016 4 года назад
Perry The Platypus currently 2:34 for me. Eastern US
@jd-uz1ln
@jd-uz1ln 4 года назад
Casual 8:00 am upload no problem in Europe
@ramshacklealex7772
@ramshacklealex7772 4 года назад
West coast (of Canada or the States) presumably
@Bella1899
@Bella1899 4 года назад
... implying you have anything to do in the morning 🤔
@anant1462
@anant1462 4 года назад
"Rio Ferdinand thought he was playing in Argentina" - Joe Devine, 2019 Context: Alex says #5 in Argentina means a defensive midfielder. Joe puts on a goofy voice and accent and says that. Alex gets confused and annoyed. I thought it was a hilarious interaction. It's at 40:00 in Sensible Transfers: Answering your questions
@danielalejandrofernandez5907
@danielalejandrofernandez5907 4 года назад
What's the context of the comment?
@anant1462
@anant1462 4 года назад
@@danielalejandrofernandez5907 My bad, I'll add the context now.
@anant1462
@anant1462 4 года назад
@@danielalejandrofernandez5907 I just added the timestamp and video title, so it's easy/possible to find.
@bryangitsham
@bryangitsham 4 года назад
I was always interested by the Italian trend of wearing high numbers
@johnnythemachine6949
@johnnythemachine6949 4 года назад
yeah I like that too. Every player should wear the number he likes most, be it high or low, unless it's taken
@anirs8198
@anirs8198 4 года назад
Can you make a video on How Bartemeo is ruining Barcelona! Thanks for the video
@nishantak911
@nishantak911 4 года назад
Keep up the good work! This is keeping my football needs sated
@TokenBlackman7
@TokenBlackman7 4 года назад
I guess that means you're not playing FIFA during the quarantine?
@nishantak911
@nishantak911 4 года назад
@@TokenBlackman7 nope... Only have a switch and God knows that port is not worth wasting time on
@LeonardSynyster
@LeonardSynyster 4 года назад
"Numbering conventions are all largely based on the transition that countries made tactically" Bixente Lizarazu: Laughs in 69
@EricErs22
@EricErs22 4 года назад
4:46 Biglia is wearing a shirt with the number 6, while it's told that in Uruguay it is normally the 5.
@nithishprabhu1259
@nithishprabhu1259 4 года назад
He played in no.5 position
@jimsmith9731
@jimsmith9731 4 года назад
Biglia is Argentinian unfortunately...
@googleforcedhandle
@googleforcedhandle 4 года назад
It's not common for players in the 6 position to actually use that shirt number, so it's usually free for cdms if the 5 is used by someone else (still the player is referred as a 6 player no matter what number he uses in the matches)
@bens4602
@bens4602 4 года назад
"in his excellent series on shirt numbers in The Athletic". Man's gotta keep his owners happy
@JCoyle9
@JCoyle9 4 года назад
I have an obsession with squad numbers, weird
@SoccerThatMakesSense
@SoccerThatMakesSense 4 года назад
This is a fascinating topic! I love learning about how different countries label different numbers in the formations. That’s awesome
@Y2Jmarco1
@Y2Jmarco1 4 года назад
This video: exists Facchetti 52 years ago, Euro ‘68: Yeah let’s wear no. 10 just to confuse everyone that i’m an offensive player and not a left back...
@mchanson9332
@mchanson9332 3 года назад
In Germany you usually call the deepest midfielder "Sechser" (nr.6), the one ahead "Achter" (nr.8) and if there´s a third one that´s even more attacking you´d call that one "Zehner" (nr.10) to the extent that some people get confused once you say "attacking midfielder" instead of "Zehner".
@Milofly
@Milofly 4 года назад
Great video! I took a lot of pleasure going through the articles on the Athletic and this video is a great way to review them in a short amount of time, thanks a lot!
@rooneye
@rooneye 4 года назад
I asked for this and I got it. Thank you!
@gabrielmartino7358
@gabrielmartino7358 4 года назад
Fun fact: Santos is probably the only Brazilian club who uses the 4-2-6-3 backline. This happens since Pele days when the club addopted a 3 defenders as a alternative to 4-2-4. And then the cdm (number 6) became a center back and the wingers started using 3 and 4, but when Santos swap to a 4 backline again they were the fullbacks. Nowadays when the club signs a starter fullback they still gave him the number 3 or 4
@Reggaeshark.
@Reggaeshark. 4 года назад
WE NEED A TIFO ON T&T GETTING TO 2006 WORLD CUP. So much has been made, and rightly so, of Iceland being a small nation at the World Cup but T&T previously held that title. It is an amazing story including a white Brit that scored an important goal in our playoff against Bahrain to qualify. Legendary player Dwight Yorke was the Captain. This story is a must!!!
@cianaylward6181
@cianaylward6181 4 года назад
I didn't know I needed to know this information, but now I'm glad I do
@pauloviniciustarmamade1635
@pauloviniciustarmamade1635 4 года назад
Brazil version (national squad) GK - 1 RB - 2 CB - 4 CB - 3 LB - 6 CDM - 5 CM - 8 CAM - 10 RW / LW - 11 / 7 ST - 9 Obs* - CAM / LW / RW tend to vary a lot with Neymar using the 10
@alistairs3934
@alistairs3934 4 года назад
This was so interesting, always a topic I’d wanted to know more about
@smanslam1
@smanslam1 4 года назад
Hmm, this revealed a lot. Why J. Zanetti wore 4. Why R. Carlos wore 6. etc.
@Huge17cat
@Huge17cat 4 года назад
Not long after watching this video, I saw the whole of the Crystal Palace-Liverpool 1990 FA Cup semi-final (Palace put it up on RU-vid), so I was interested to see if the shirt numbers matched English convention. So obviously, as the video says, both sides started with 1-11, but: Palace's wide men (certainly during the first half) were John Salako and Andy Gray, wearing 10 and 4 respectively. Phil Barber was wearing 7 but probably playing in the number 10 role. Alan Pardew was wearing 11 but seemed to be in central midfield. For Liverpool, John Barnes wearing 10 but ostensibly playing down the left, and Peter Beardsley 7 but more centrally, but as they seemed to swapping positions fairly freely, that actually made sort of sense.
@samwright1892
@samwright1892 3 года назад
3:07 I think the Doncaster manager joined a band after this...😂
@c4b-bage
@c4b-bage 4 года назад
World cup winning 1982 italian national side is worth noting here. Their shirt number system was fairly odd, with Goalkeepers wearing 1/12/22 (that's standard), defenders wearing shirts 2 to 8, midfielders wearing shirts 9 to 14 (10 being a substitute player and never played a game in the whole cup if i recall correctly) and attacking players wearing shirts 15 to 21. I always found that really odd, although i probably can't fully understand because i wasn't alive in 1982.
@EduardoRodriguez-xl9jy
@EduardoRodriguez-xl9jy 4 года назад
There's a living custom in Argentinian radio broadcasts, the commentators refers situations like "Tevez has the ball in 7 zone position" which means he's carrying the ball where the wingers are suppossed to be, out wide near the sideline and forward, they assume we the listeners know what numbers goes with what positions, and certainly everyone knows. I hope my sloppy English makes some sense.
@hoimunyee
@hoimunyee 4 года назад
Some of the odd numbers I remember are Gallas wearing 10, Boulahrouz 9, Dempsey 2at Spurs, Asamoah Gyan 3, and Kolarov 11 at City
@TheEvapiiShow
@TheEvapiiShow 4 года назад
Bixente Lizarazu #69 at Bayern, Sandro Wagner #2 at Bayern, Claudio Pizarro #4 at Bremen, Javi Martinez #8 at Bayern, Edgar Davis #1 at Barnet, Nicklas Bendtner #3 at Wolfsburg, Ramires and Kante #7 at Chelsea... the list goes on
@brunogripp
@brunogripp Год назад
Funny story about Brazil. Here, the numbering depends on the local adaptation of the WM in the so called diagonal system. It basically depended on which half back dropped to the line and was kept more offensively . Usually it was the left half back, but occasionally it was the right half back, in which case the number of the right back was 4 and not 2, reading 6, 3, 2, 4. Just like the Argentinian case. Some Brazilian clubs, like Corinthians and Fluminense, held to this tradition right up to the '90's.
@danpreston564
@danpreston564 4 года назад
As a kid I was fascinated by the dominant Liverpool team's numbering. A second striker wearing 7 (Keegan / Dalglish), central defender wearing 6 (Hansen), central midfielder wearing 8 (Sammy Lee, Jimmy Case) goal scoring midfielder wearing 5 (Ray Kennedy, Ronnie Whelan), left wingers wearing 9 (Steve Highway), main strikers wearing 10 (David Johnson). It gave them an air of mystery, of them somehow playing a different game to everyone else.
@frankmachin5438
@frankmachin5438 4 года назад
Dan Preston yes that was very interesting to me too but conventional English numbering was centre halves wearing 5 and 6 (so Nothing unusual about Hanson) but the rest were really weird I agree - I was always fascinated by Heighway wearing 9) but later Rush wore 9 if I’m not mistaken. Good observation, I wonder if that was their thinking. Leeds in the 70’s on the other hand completely conventional text book numbering.
@danpreston564
@danpreston564 4 года назад
@@frankmachin5438 In my head the back four was always 3/4/5/2, 6 and 10 in central midfield, 7 and 11 on the flanks and 8 and 9 up top. Maybe that's just what my team wore so it's what i thought was normal.
@frankmachin5438
@frankmachin5438 4 года назад
Dan Preston I think he explains it in the video if I’m not mistaken - 4 (originally ‘left half’ ) became one of the CMF’s - like I say, Leeds were completely conventional and Billy Bremner wore 4 in CMF next to Johnny Giles 10, Lorimer and Gray on the wings wore 7 and 11, Clarke and Jones as CF’s wore 8 and 9, and the back 4 were left to right 3, 5, 6, 2. Who wore 4 in that Liverpool, side? Souness?
@danpreston564
@danpreston564 4 года назад
Frank Machin in 77 6 and 4 were the central defenders, 5, 8, 9, 11 midfield.
@danpreston564
@danpreston564 4 года назад
By 81 they were 2,4,6,3 across the back, 7,9 up front. Souness always wore 11 I think.
@lukewinchester3108
@lukewinchester3108 4 года назад
Superb video guys, I do just have one question though... Why is it that a Dutch back line is numbered as follows... 2 , DR 3, DRC 4, DLC 5, DL
@joshbaines
@joshbaines 4 года назад
Just going in order probably
@lukewinchester3108
@lukewinchester3108 4 года назад
Josh Baines That was my initial thoughts too Josh but you’d expect that if this was the case the numbering in order would continue into midfield but it doesn’t.
@joshbaines
@joshbaines 4 года назад
@@lukewinchester3108 oh. No clue then.
@TheTamaJustice
@TheTamaJustice 4 года назад
Luke Winchester Has to do with them usually preferring to have a “solid 3, 4 and 6” in the centre, since Dutch sides tend to expect the roles of their wingers to be dynamic. So when it comes down to it numbers 2 and 5 will almost always be used for wingers, just like numbers 7 and 11.
@dienederlanden
@dienederlanden 4 года назад
@@lukewinchester3108 Indeed, it doesn't. The CDM is 6, which is in order, but then the box to box CM is 8, the CAM 10 and the wingers 7/11 with the striker being 9. So it's 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,10,7,9,11
@ahnafdrubo9727
@ahnafdrubo9727 4 года назад
I have a shirt number OCD. To me numbers would always be as follows: GK: 1 RB: 2 LB: 3 RCB: 4 LCB: 5 DM: 6 RW: 7 B2B: 8 LW: 11 CAM: 10 ST: 9
@NicolasPA10
@NicolasPA10 4 года назад
This is a really good video, congratulations! You describe very good the defensive numbers, but not to much the fowards. N9 use to be the central foward, 8 a creative player similar than N10 (or at least in Argentina)
@michaelc.1710
@michaelc.1710 4 года назад
This idea that players choose squad numbers out of a sense of romance for the past. Is it not also quite a lot to do with the fact that 1 to 11 shirts still exist in youth football/sub-elite football? So if you’ve played on the right in a number 7 shirt since you were six years old for amateur club, school and your pro academy, you’re quite attached to it already and then add in the weight of history, past players etc on top?
@davidsaldivia8552
@davidsaldivia8552 4 года назад
In Chile the defensive midfielder is number 6. Defensive line is 4-5-3-2 (I think I didn't see that combination in the video). I've always wondered why we use different numbers than Argentina, considering that our football is strongly influenced by them.
@theraphman2.0
@theraphman2.0 4 года назад
In Italy, squad numbers are pretty much irrelevant, but here's what they would do. 3-5-2 formation GK: 1 (obviously) CBs: 3,5, and 2 (from left to right) DMs: 4 and 6 (alternatively 6 could be a regista) CAM: 8 LM: 11 RM: 7 STs: 9 and 10 (9 is the pure striker and 10 could be either a striker or a CF)
@mmgaldiz
@mmgaldiz 3 года назад
lol this explains a lot of the confusion we had playing in an international school with lads from all over... had a great german defensive guy that played as '6' which, me playing goalkeeper and being from Argentina, meant that he should stayed in the defensive....and the guy just keep going back to the midfield while I screamed at him savagely to get back down....20 years later, now I know why
@kingpak1325
@kingpak1325 4 года назад
Bendtler chose 3 in Wolfsburg 😂
@lawrenceporter8389
@lawrenceporter8389 2 года назад
It’s interesting to compare with Rugby Union where the sport abandoned a brief flirtation with squad numbers in the 90s and has stuck rigidly to a position based 1-15 system ever since. Even though the positions and their numbers are not formally defined in the rules of either sport the numbers and their positions are the same worldwide in rugby union even if the names of the positions are not always the same. Tinkering with the numbers and their positions is frowned upon. Whereas even when football was 1-11 playing a number in the ‘wrong’ position was common. I remember a Nottingham Forest match where Brian Clough played his son Nigel at right back but Nigel wore 9 because that was his normal number.
@julianoperez9199
@julianoperez9199 2 года назад
Fantastic video. You are absolutly right about the numbers in Brazil. I’m brazilian. Congratulations
@ViscaBarcaInter
@ViscaBarcaInter 4 года назад
Fascinating stuff. You see why guys like Zanetti and R.Carlos pick their shirt numbers.
@thegreatcalvinio
@thegreatcalvinio 4 года назад
Xavi and Iniesta both liked the #8, but Iniesta got #8 for Barcelona, while they swapped numbers for Spain.
@jamiemckell34
@jamiemckell34 4 года назад
Would like to see a video about squad numbers past 11... 13 is interesting as a sub GK in the UK, but it is 16 in France... 13 is a RB number in Brazil, many Brazilian full backs take it as a squad number. I like how france 98 squad numbers were kinda honoured too... Thierry Henry always wore 12 for France after that... So many interesting facts... Maybe make a video of squad number facts by number.. 1 to 30 with perhaps a mention of other numbers that warrant it (like 99)... Get a script going TIFO!
@Snookbone
@Snookbone 4 года назад
13 as a sub GK simply came about because in English football when substitutes were introduced, they only allowed 1, so that man wore 12, and the reserve GK simply took the next number.
@jamiemckell34
@jamiemckell34 4 года назад
@@Snookbone Thanks!! Didn't know that
@diegwunwankwor2818
@diegwunwankwor2818 4 года назад
great pierce. I really enjoyed it. Well done
@MussoiSka
@MussoiSka 4 года назад
In Italy I'd say we tend to use the english numbering system, at least it was the case in my former club. So I've always been a 5 when playing CB, or a 4 when playing as DM. Then I moved to Germany, and it took me a while to understand I was a sechser here... Puzzling
@gogorecords89
@gogorecords89 4 года назад
In the 70s squads like France and Argentina in World Cups wore their numbers alphabetically, for example goalkeeper could wear n.5 . On the other hand, Italy gave the numbers this way: 1,12,22 Goalkeepers Alphabetically, 2-8 deffenders alphabetically, 9-15 midfielders alphabetically, 16-21 attackers alphabetically for example Rossi n20(1982), Baggio n.15 - Maldini n.7(1990)
@jackback70
@jackback70 4 года назад
wait they were using a 2-3-5? I never knew that and I hope you make a video on evolution of formations in football if you dont already have
@87crimson
@87crimson 4 года назад
Argentina's numbering in WC 78 was given by alphabetical order so Number one was Alonso (Attacking Midfielder), number 5 Filliol (GK) Passarella (Captain and Starting CB) number 19. Kempes out of sheer luck wore the iconic N10.
@hernang6006
@hernang6006 4 года назад
Argentina did the same also in WC74, except the GKs, that use the traditional 1-12-21.
@jopalm3649
@jopalm3649 4 года назад
Another fun fact: At world cup 74, the Dutch team had the numbers on the basis of the order of their last names in the alphabet, so their keeper Jan Joengblod wore the number 8 (Cruyff was the only exception) . Maybe they did that because they played "voetball total," where everybody can play every position.
@AJWalkincoma
@AJWalkincoma 4 года назад
Please follow this up with a squad numbers video. Things like (and have already been mentioned): Why some leagues have such high squad numbers (Italian leagues) When players couldn't get their usual number (beckham. Zamorano) 12/13 being the sub keeper's number etc.
@h0ckeyd
@h0ckeyd 4 года назад
Definitely right there; being in Southampton, number 7 shouts Le Tissier or Keegan to me.
@MetallicStains
@MetallicStains 4 года назад
Thanks for producing this video. It's super fascinating!
@saddammall3894
@saddammall3894 3 года назад
Strikers with attitude issues #45, winger converted to CM #31, winger /Striker #14, a year to late but still great propper soccer intelligence, thank you tifo, Joe devine?
@Afrito98
@Afrito98 4 года назад
Great video! Here in Argentina, César Luis Menotti, in the 1978 World Cup, decided that the numbers of the players must be in alphabetical orden, instead the normal way. He thought that changing the numbering system will confuse the rivals, that's why Ubaldo Matildo Fillol, the goalkeeper, wore the number 5, for example. I think that the estrategy came out really well! It was our first world cup.
@hernang6006
@hernang6006 4 года назад
Argentina did the same in 1974...except the Gks (1-12-21)
@coachhbosoccer
@coachhbosoccer 4 года назад
I remember when Coaches would say, you're a # 8 today or play #7 today, not 11. To be fair the numbers aren't as relevant today. Gyan, a top fwd for Ghana used to wear 3.
@darththaurer
@darththaurer 4 года назад
6 - CDM 8- box to box 2 and 4 - CB 3 - fullback 7 and 11 - wingers 10 - the magician 9 - finisher 5- can be anything That's how I see the numbers
@elanabrahams6761
@elanabrahams6761 4 года назад
I will never understand why people dislike Tifo footballs videos.. 😂😂😂I mean..are u disagreeing with facts
@Bambino_60
@Bambino_60 6 месяцев назад
Finally I understand. Thank you 🙏🏻
@BigPurp9
@BigPurp9 4 года назад
Such a fascinating topic, never even noticed this until now hahaha. Always wondered as a kid why Gerrard was a 4 for England but some countries had the full back as a 4
@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS
@EnglishforFOOTBALLFANS 4 года назад
Don skeng I think Gerrard chose number 4 firstly because number 8 was taken (he liked 8 because it was Gazza’s number) and secondly, because it was Vinny Jones’ number :)
@ryanking2155
@ryanking2155 4 года назад
English for FOOTBALL FANS yeah, he was coming through about the same time as Lampard and Scholes so there was a lot of competition for No.8 (even tonight Scholes wore 18 for Man U). I think Paul Ince also took the 4 as the 8 was occupied too
@GhostHPM
@GhostHPM 4 года назад
@@ryanking2155 I remember Lampard wearing 11 when Scholes was still in the England team. Though I don't remember which of the three was shifted to the left, normally that player would have the 11 shirt.
@ryanking2155
@ryanking2155 4 года назад
Henrique Yes! I remember that too. He had a stint on the left. But I feel like I remember Scholes having a crack at that too. And Heskey for that matter. I think half the premier league figured out that if they could fill that left midfield role they’d be picked for every game 😂
@BadDayLp
@BadDayLp 4 года назад
I never wondered at shirt numbers, i always assumed the players choose them at will and according to their childhood heros (for example a technical gifted midfielder wants the No. 10 because he looked up to Maradona as a child).
@jq7352
@jq7352 4 года назад
Tbh I feel comfortable if: starting gk wears 1; defenders doesn't take numbers between 7-11; 9 is worn by a striker and 10 is worn by a midfielder/winger. Otherwise I am cool with
@AdzSONLINE
@AdzSONLINE 4 года назад
I always thought if you redid the numbering system with squad numbers the last digit should be the position you play. So it goes 1-10 and starts again. You could have the strikers as numbers in the 90s. So 4-3-3 would go GK 1 RB 2 CB 3 and 5 LB 6 DM 4 CM 7 and 8 RW 9 LW 10 ST 99 Then it would go again 11-20 with the last digit being those positions, with the striker being 98. Would really confuse people though
@BRNakamura
@BRNakamura 3 года назад
5:58 a wild Operário Várzea-Grandense appears.
@willster8759
@willster8759 4 года назад
I had no idea numbers were used by national teams like this. Now I know.
@makhnolelong177
@makhnolelong177 4 года назад
very interesting topic, thank you!
@joaoguimaraes31
@joaoguimaraes31 4 года назад
Regarding the brazilian defensive line, usually it is a 6, 4 , 3 and 2. The right defender is 3 and left 4, opposite to what the video says.
@yadisfhaddad722
@yadisfhaddad722 3 года назад
Funny how the first formation, 2-3-5, is very similar to what teams look like nowadays when in attack. History has come full circle
@jgv2699
@jgv2699 4 года назад
I remember when a croatian player requested the number 69 in Germany, but the German Fereration of Football didn't allow it, lol.
@TheEvapiiShow
@TheEvapiiShow 4 года назад
May I point to Bixente Lizarazu
@jgv2699
@jgv2699 4 года назад
@@TheEvapiiShow But Lizarazu didn't implied that te chosed the number because of the sexual innuendo. (That i know of).
@SammyEsq
@SammyEsq 4 года назад
Can we get a video sometime on retired shirt numbers at specific clubs?
@PoucoHabilidoso
@PoucoHabilidoso 4 года назад
The number mark thing often happened in Brazil ... managers would have the budget to scout other teams, and man-marking was common back then, so they would ask to man mark the number 10... but some managers of unknown teams would swap them around to surprise their opponent 😂
@paulhill4382
@paulhill4382 4 года назад
So how did the 2nd striker end up with no. 11 in a 4-4-2?
@Snookbone
@Snookbone 4 года назад
Are there many examples of that being standard? I've always known them as 9 and 10 with the 11 being an outside midfielder
@GVike
@GVike 4 года назад
Interesting no mention of how backup goalie numbers changed by country in the old system. Spain used 13, France used 16, Italy 12, and USA 18!
@TonyMshana
@TonyMshana 4 года назад
This guys voice is amazing! If he slowed down, and softened the tone, he'd be such a good narrator for sleep stories on the Calm app! He could recount legendary footballing tails or facts based? 🤔
@apalakbhattacharyya1681
@apalakbhattacharyya1681 4 года назад
Great Video....carry on ..TIFO
@leoneldelgado271
@leoneldelgado271 4 года назад
Not in all south america the "destroyer" is number 5, in Perú its call 6 as position, i don't know why but that's how it is, eather way is great information you got there......👍🏻🇵🇪 ⚽️🏆🏆🥈
@matiasescribano4812
@matiasescribano4812 3 года назад
a lovely piece of history
@youtubetroll1083
@youtubetroll1083 4 года назад
Next episode please do why kit colors are different for each club team
@Lily-zo3mg
@Lily-zo3mg 4 года назад
love this history series soo much
@rezaarmeynaldo7372
@rezaarmeynaldo7372 4 года назад
So that's why Gallas use no. 10 shirt at Arsenal
@Ese96Agoaye
@Ese96Agoaye 4 года назад
Reza Armeynaldo Arsene Wenger said something along the lines of not giving that number to a forward so as to not draw comparisons to Denis Bergkamp.
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