France recently announced that they would ban sales of The Apple iPhone 12 after it failed a safety test. So what exactly is wrong with the phone? And should people around the world continue using it?
I’m French and everybody is talking about that right now. It’s not that big of a deal but the amount of misinformation spreading about it is crazy 💀 my sister said that she heard we could get it replaced with a newer model by going to apple but that’s clearly not true lol
Apple has 2 weeks to introduce an update. As a french possessing an iPhone 12, Thank you for giving the correct information to strangers rather than doing shorts insulting one or the other party of the problem. Great video!
@TheErrorInBlack Je suis d’accord. Le gouvernement lui-même n’a pas réagi correctement. Avant même d’engager la discussion avec Apple, ils ont fait part de la possibilité de rappeler les iPhones 12. Pratique pour semer le chaos.
But Apple keeps turning it into sales. What are the biggest reasons to upgrade to the iPhone 15? "It has USB C" and "emits less radiation". Apple doesn't even have to change anything about their phone in any meaningful way, Europe is basically marketing for them. You know I'm starting to think the people that run Europe have stock in Apple.
But now it’s only in France and easier replaceable batteries are also coming for Apple and Samsung, that’s gonna be a huge issue for all manufacturers because they like using their glue on the batteries
@@TheRythimMan they made loss of switching to usb c otherwise they would’ve never switched because now they can’t charge companies for producing a proprietary cable and also they never advertised this „less radiation“ since it was only a problem with the iPhone 12, they fixed it with the iPhone 13 already
Mine would get hot but if you buy a hardy case for it that's thicker you can't feel it heat up. I was concerned at first but once I got my case for it I haven't had a problem with heat.
@@arm8636 I've been using a 12 mini since early 21 and it's never heated until very recently (seems to have happened after an ios 16 update a month ago). And it only heats up sometimes while playing videos on a very particular app.
Standing outside in the sun for literally seconds is considerably more dangerous than your phone could even theoretically be. The amount of complete misunderstanding of how the electromagnetic spectrum works by even mainstream publications is quite worrisome.
Exactly. Basic knowledge of the electromagnetic spectrum is key to understanding how ridiculous this is. I high wattage lightbulbs can give you heat stroke if you’re close to it from the heat radiating out of it. Not gonna hold my breath for the ban of lightbulbs ever.
@@quantuminfinity4260what’s sad is that it only takes basic knowledge to understand that this is all ridiculous, yet no one seems to understand it at all, which adds to the problem and worrisome of the public’s basic general knowledge. I’m not the smartest person by any means, but when I’m worrying about someone’s basic knowledge, then there’s a problem. The comments prove the need to worry and why I usually engage in conversation about this.
@@danielschmaderer I agree with this worry, I try some times. But some times it feels like an impossible battle when almost every single comment on some news videos covering it are like "Apple can adjust the radiation some ones phone puts out with an update?! This is very concerning!" I really do enjoy helping people understand things when they are unsure or misunderstand. But I feel badly because I literally can not take the time to address even a fraction of them.
my mom told me about this whole situation while i was watching mrwhosetheboss comparing the 15 pro max and s23 ultra and i was never this confused. i thought she just read another fake facebook post but after researching i found other proof but still didnt believe it. i am a fan of this channel since you explain everything very easily and is one of the most reliable sources to trust. love ur content man keep it up.
Every country has regulations about radiation exposure but this is not a health concern but instead it comes from regulations that forbid non authorized people to emit electromagnetic waves with more than a specified limit. Like you also are not allowed to boost a wifi signal beyond a specific amount of wattage
To add to what was said, all signals used are considered nonionizing radiation, so it’s not dangerous, won’t cause cancer, won’t hurt you in any way/shape/form, and it won’t heat you up from the inside as some people actually think. The heat mentioned is all from the chipset and the phone gets hot from heat dissipation. That’s it. Same thing happens to your computer, tablet, modern TV, etc. If you notice your phone getting hot form heavy use, the screen will dim to try and use less power to cool itself down. At that point, either shut your phone off, stop using the app that’s making it hot, or put it in front of a fan.
@@danielschmaderer phones could technically heat you up inside, but the amount is really miniscule. Probably the only way to have negative effects is when you infront if a 3000 watt antenna that is also focused on a small point on your body
@@soacespacestation8556 but it won’t damage your cells. It also depends on the frequency. A microwave, for example uses a frequency of 2.45 gigahertz because that’s the exact frequency that makes water molecules vibrate fast to the point of boiling and heating up food. Any other frequencies would render it useless. But, as you mentioned, microwave ovens also are at wattages as low as 700 watts and only go up from there, which can impact how quickly it can heat up. Regardless, it’s all still nonionizing, so it can’t hurt you on a molecular level. The battery itself has a higher chance of hurting you if it’s poorly constructed.
I remember seeing this on the news a week ago. In the same report they said "it dangerously doubles the amount of radiation numbers imposed by France" and "but there's no evidence of it causing any real harm".
@cjjk9142 No panicking is happening. I don't own an iPhone 12 either. I am merely curious, from a technical perspective, whether all 12 series models have this issue, or just the base model. So far, I have only seen the base 12 model mentioned.
I have the iPhone 12 and I am not going to upgrade it until iPhone 16 or 17. It works great and it is a perfect phone for my usage. It can get a bit warm sometimes but I am sure it has nothing to do with the radiation.
1:48 I wonder how many people using iPhone, clicked their screen not realizing that that pop-up message for an update installation was a part of the video and not a part of their iPhone
France never took science class seriously, bc RF radiation is not ionizing radiation. Clowns going to start selling 200 euros paints to block “wifi” lol
The FDA’s doctors, scientists and engineers are uniquely qualified to interpret scientific studies and public health data regarding exposure to RF energy from cell phones. Make an informed decision.
@@iphone8fan1a basic understanding of the electromagnetic spectrum and a general knowledge of physics shows it’s perfectly safe at the power levels used.
@@iphone8fan1 strong username to post related content. Also, your phone isn't Chernobyl. IDK wtf France version of "FDA" is smoking, but it must be strong
I wonder if the same sort of news will come out about the 13 line of models. Maybe France were unable to make this news public for a few years due to some contract. Maybe we’ll see the iPhone 13 face the same fate at the 12 in a couple weeks time… 🤔
I’m in the US. I had so many issues with my iPhone 12 getting extremely hot, like, burning the skin hot. I brought it to the Apple Store and tried to demonstrate, and when the employee felt it she basically called me a wuss by saying heat is “subjective”. Like… what??? No honey I don’t think my phone should be this hot just from charging normally… but ok
@@BobBark you should be able to charge your phone normally and not get burned when you touch it. You should also be able to charge your phone normally without it overheating in a normal environment. This was not the case with iPhone 12, which would regularly pause charging or completely stop working because it was too hot. The Apple Store employee just wasn’t buying it.
@@QBQ98 I don’t understand why you are being contrarian in this discussion; I stated my experience and I have a pretty firm grasp on reality in this situation, because it happened, and this video is backing up what I experienced. So, what are you trying to say exactly?
The solution for overheating phone is by putting a case into it which the case would insulate some amount of heat. Depenting on what type of case you are putting it on👍
Phones get hotter with a case on. The only heat exchange that can happen is with some of the phone’s frame or back being exposed to air. Contain it in a case and temperatures will be much higher. It’s actually the same issue you end up with when putting a hardshell case on a macbook
I called apple (store) when I discovered and they literally said nah thats just France that makes very weird tests... I was like okay but its still over the legal limit?!
Even if this is a joke, I agree. I think a bit of pushback can keep Apple’s products in check, such as the “user replaceable battery”. I think many of these can bring good to Apple customers, although some may not.
Also, the frequencies of the electromagnetic signals the iPhone 12 is designed to be capable of receiving are several orders of magnitude lower than the PHz+ range of UVA and above. In an alternate history of the iPhone, in addition to being much easier for the end user to fix themselves, _all_ iPhone devices are also designed to be capable of receiving electromagnetic signals that are several orders of magnitude lower in frequency still than the GHz range of the 4G LTE/5G cellular and Wi-Fi networks they are able to connect to. Of course, these signals are at 64-108 and 162-163 MHz and correspond to FM and NOAA weather radio.
Why this is appended in mid 2023? When iPhone 12 was launched in 2020 it wasn’t any issue related to this… 🤔 I have an iPhone SE 2016 and I think that sometimes when on charge or when on a App that demands lots of power of battery, the phone burns the hands! Way that the France authorities don’t see any problem with the iPhone SE? Maybe because is classified by Apple “vintage”? 🤔
it happened in 2023, because france test a few hundred phones at random each year- and ironically enough, included 0 iphone 12s in previous years- instead accepting Apple's documentation on how high its SAR was. as to "how the difference happened"- Apple tests, in such a way that it assumes you don't have anything in contact with your Iphone, France tests phones assuming you have them in your hand or pocket... in both cases, it came up at near twice their legal limit.
Yeah iPhones have some of the highest radiation exposure of any phone. Yet a lot of people still get them. I believe Samsung phones have some of the lowest amounts which is good. Google pixels also have a very high amount like iPhone. Surprisingly iphone and pixels also have some of the most stock OS.
Microwave ovens can burn, but for the same reason that a heat lamp or high-powered laser burns - intensity, not wavelength. To be afraid of all microwave-range radio waves is like being afraid of the color red.
Typical of the French to make up a rule, and then look for violations just for the heck of it! I’ve had an iPhone 12 since it came out, and it is no warmer than any other one, but what really intrigues me is that this issue is brought up three years after the fact on this channel!!! Do you know the iPhone 15 just came out? Time to move on!😅
Maybe Apple can improve on this, and implement a brain-fry function when you get mugged by those new doctors or engineers everyone keeps talking about nowadays.
I've loved my iPhone 12 for the past years since release but these new updates seem to heat up my phone worse overtime. Nowadays I am being burnt by my own personal assistant over its own rages. My iPhone just be throwing fit even when it's off.
Ok I am French and I will clarify a little more. Yes, the legal limit in France is indeed 4.0W per kg. YEs, the iPhone 12 has 5.74W per kg. BUT : All the tests we have done have only succeeded in proving that at 40W per kg, it heats organic tissues (like the skin of mice on which we have carried out tests). Several studies have tried to show a danger of 40W per kg, without succeeding in having scientific proof. The only scientific proof we have is that it heats up very (very very) slightly. Knowing that at 40W per kg, this had effects ; the organizations responsible in France have decided to set a limit 10 times lower than this dose which has effects on skin (just a little heat lol) so they say that they need to say under 4w per kg.
Not an expert or anything but this is probably due to the iPhone 12 having a strong 5G capable modem along with the fact that it is actually thinner than the iPhone 11 and the iPhones 13-15.
Some people freak out over 5G, not realizing how safe it actually is. Too many conspiracy theorists adding fuel to the fire of something that doesn’t need to be worried about and the French government is falling for it.
I mean.. uv radiation is extremely bad for you. But yet again most of the time it’s safe since people aren’t outside for longer than 20 minutes. People have their phones RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR FACE FOR 3 HOURS OR MORE
@@soacespacestation8556 the fact that when people do develop brain tumors, it correlates with the side that favored cell phone use. Studies are there and they were reported on in the media in the past. Bluetooth has lower incidence rates, but it’s not totally safe either. The recommendation has always been to hold the phone slightly away from the ear or to use the speaker function.
dude, literally everything heats brain tissue. Going out to the sun for 2 seconds literally causes more harm than the phone, UV radiation dumbass. We evolved to survive that, now we're gonna die to a fucking metal brick?
i don't care about that radiation shit, but you really should be thankful you waited... the 13s are much better in all aspects while not costing that much more. i own iphone 12 and im kinda regretting i didn't save for 13
@@sladkyhermelin3756 Advice: Leave it immediately so that you do not get waves and affect your brain cells or get cancer. After a while, you will feel like you cannot understand words when someone asks you something. Advice: Leave it immediately and get the iPhone 15 Pro. It may be much better than the iPhone 12.
I don't understand EU regulations sometimes. The heat produced by microwave will be nothing compared to and will definitely be surpassed by the heat produced by the CPU and display under normal usage.
I don't believe anything Apple says. There is something wrong with this phone. Mine heats up so hot I have to put it down. I never had a phone do this. I will be selling this phone and going back to Android.
same. i have had my iphone 12 replaced 3 times and it still is the same issue very hot and battery dies fast and burns fingers to touch. i am done with apple
This is a click bait unfortunately. The fact is France tests SAR differently to others, which is why it failed only there. This video should be about the difference(s) in the way France tests SAR.
@@Ducktility just because they get some things right doesn't mean the solution to these problems is government overregulation. U just admitted the cookie thing was a mistake. what if they make a bigger mistake in the future. what is something better than type C comes along. Using the government to force products into uniform standards is not a good way to do business and it doesn't help innovation it stifles it
@@Ducktility Lightning was a huge improvement over 30-pin and USB Micro B in 2012. What if governments had mandated that. Maybe USB C wouldn't even exist. Overregulation will create stagnation and prevent newer and better technology from appearing
