Every 4WD ute owner that tows or carries heavy loads should run a rear sway bar - in this video Graham Cahill shows you how to install one easily at home. #4wdaction #swaybar #swaybars 4WD 24/7
A rear sway bar is going to help a lot with body roll if you have a heavy canopy, extra weight in the back or you're towing. Yes - it will reduce rear wheel articulation. That said - Graham has been running one in the D-MAX for some time and is still able to drive the tough tracks! Any further questions put them below and the experts at Fulcrum will answer them!
Pretty much every comment on Facebook and here. For anyone who reads this comment. Keep in mind Grahams D-max runs SuperPro 4x4 sway bars and he has taken that thing all over Australia with no issue. The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
More vids like this please I’m trying to do fix all of my suspension work myself and these vids help so slick thanks mate YOU ARE A BLODDY LIVING LEGEND 👍🤙✌️🙏
Fitting a larger sway bar, particularly in the rear of a 4WD, has two main effects, vehicle balance in terms of understeer or oversteer and increased roll resistance. Both of these effects can provide increased overall handling and safety benefits in a 4WD vehicle. If you are looking for increased stability on the road or when towing, sway bars are a great upgrade option. As most factory vehicles are partial towards understeer, fitting of a larger rear sway bar, or the addition of a sway bar, helps in providing a more neutral characteristic in the handling. This is due to the increase in roll stiffness at the rear, which changes the loading of the rear wheels under conditions of increased cornering load. SuperPro offers a great range of aftermarket sway bars engineered for many off-road applications, also offering many adjustable kits to best suit your 4WD build. The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
4WD action im looking forward to the next episodes you bring out his year. by the way when is the episode from tassie guys wanna watch it and see what you guys get up to. and graham i love what you have done with the D-max it looks beast. keep up the good work guys and im super looking forward to the new episodes coming out soon. all the best guys.
I've removed the one on my samurai and couldn't be happier. Lots of extra articulation, with almost no difference in driving. But, I've tried a pajero (IFS) without one and it is undrivable.
How much does it interfere with your off road performance? It limits wheel travel, now if it comes with a quick disconnect system for track driving, then it's a winner.
It doesn't interfere with you off road performance at all. A sway bar should not be seen as a negative. Aftermarket companies wouldn't put so many engineering hours or manufacturing time into a product if it was to have a negative affect on performance. If you have a legal suspension setup and install a SuperPro sway bar you will have little to no loss of articulation or flex. Fitting a larger sway bar, particularly in the rear of a 4WD, has two main effects, vehicle balance in terms of understeer or oversteer and increased roll resistance. Both of these effects can provide increased overall handling and safety benefits in a 4WD vehicle. If you are looking for increased stability on the road or when towing, sway bars are a great upgrade option. As most factory vehicles are partial towards understeer, fitting of a larger rear sway bar, or the addition of a sway bar, helps in providing a more neutral characteristic in the handling. This is due to the increase in roll stiffness at the rear, which changes the loading of the rear wheels under conditions of increased cornering load. SuperPro offers a great range of aftermarket sway bars engineered for many off-road applications, also offering many adjustable kits to best suit your 4WD build. The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
I was honestly surprised that some modern 4WD vehicles don't have rear sway bars! I thought this was a safety announcement about people that remove them for "max flex bruh" :-D
What's your thoughts for installing a rear sway bar in an IRS wagon. Doesn't see a whole lot of towing and has little articulation to start with. Is it worth it or not?
Get a sway bar then a sway bar disconnect kit. then when you want you can pull a pin and have full flex, or put it back on and be ready for rally on the road without tipping side to side. stronger sway bar less tip....
I'm surprised you didn't install quick-disconnect end links with it. A rear sway bar limits axle articulation (flex) off road. On wheelers the first thing we do is chuck the stock rear sway bar in the scrap bin. The increase in trail performance is HUGE. Many vehicles gain 100 points(!) on an RTI ramp just by disconnecting the rear sway bar.
The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
Obviously you're here to sell sway bars. Anything that reduces body roll reduces flex. When the axle articulates the more weight you can keep on the drooped side tire the more traction you will have and the further you will go. All sway bars take weight off the drooped side tire, that's how they work. Push up on one tire and the sway bar pushes up on the opposite side, reducing the amount of weight on the drooped side tire. Good flex isn't just about how much travel you have and how far you can hang a tire, it's about keeping as much weight as possible on that drooped tire through as much travel as possible.
@ Fulcrum Suspensions ... quick question for you. I just installed a full OME suspension kit on my 2004 Toyota 4dr 4wd. I carry constant heavy loads in the vehichle so I went with the Dakar leafs with an add a leaf. Great kit! But... the very first thing I noticed was the truck now seems 'wobbly' and unstable or top heavy and wanting to lean and roll more in the rear. Sounds like a rear sway would be the solution to a safer ride. Is this correct?
Unfortunately we do not offer a rear sway bar kit for the pre 05 models of hilux. I would be checking if the rear shocks are controlling/rated correctly to control the heavy loads. You may need a heavier duty option.
Hi, ive got an 80 series landcruiser with stock suspension. im looking at getting a fulcrum 2 inch lift.what is the comfort and wheel travel like with this lift as im after a bit more comfort and a deccent amount of travel
Its hard to describe in words, but the comfort is great. Between the shocks and springs we provide it will feel like you are on a cloud compared to factory. Keep in mind you have to get the right spring setup in order to ensure you have the best experience. Feel free to message our team through our website and they can give you more specifications.
The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
I am actually very surprised that the Isuzu didn't have any Sway Bar mounts manufactured into it's Chassis. Although It does seem like a pretty easy job to do on a weekend, I would bet that some other vehicle makes are a little more complicated due to other under-Chassis features and equipment. However, this seems pretty straight forward and something that most people should consider and is dependant on their vehicle and their intentions first up. Like Graham said, he had it fit due to the equipment he is carrying as this affects the vehicles handling on and off road. Of note, I would have also thought that Isuzu had Sway Bars as a standard feature ... I do have a question, Can you show the different Sway Bar mounts of the 4x4's you are currently filming with? I believe this will give people an idea, myself included, of how different each manufacturer is and the options available. Cheers for the video :-)
How does this sway bar differ from a stock one when it comes to articulation? I haven't run a sway-bar in years but I'd love a rear sway bar if it doesn't interfere with my rear articulation the way the stock does.
A SuperPro 4x4 rear sway bar does not interfere with articulation at all. I am planning to do a video to prove this :) The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
@@FulcrumSuspensions1976 Nice. I have a Nissan Xterra (N50, based on the same platform as the D40 but with spring under axle instead of spring over) and the stock sway bay limits the rear suspension an enormous amount, I don't have it installed but I do tow and I don't like towing with such a short wheel-base and no sway-bar. I'd love to try your swaybar out.
Gday I've got a hj61 Sahara and it's a little top heavy, I'm looking to get the sway out of it. It already has a rear sway bar in it. I was just wondering what I could do to rectify the sway and if a aftermarket sway bar maybe the answer?
Nathan Dwight not unless you adjust the trailing arms. As the leafs have a centre pin to the diff mounts, they will always be true. The benefits of a solid diff.
@@Dudesunperfect ya the sway bar link slides on a large pin replacing a bolt in the sway bar and is held in with a small lock pin then you just pull it apart to go wheel but when your on the road you will have ten times better control and ability to turn without your rig tipping side to side
Fitting a larger sway bar, particularly in the rear of a 4WD, has two main effects, vehicle balance in terms of understeer or oversteer and increased roll resistance. Both of these effects can provide increased overall handling and safety benefits in a 4WD vehicle. If you are looking for increased stability on the road or when towing, sway bars are a great upgrade option. As most factory vehicles are partial towards understeer, fitting of a larger rear sway bar, or the addition of a sway bar, helps in providing a more neutral characteristic in the handling. This is due to the increase in roll stiffness at the rear, which changes the loading of the rear wheels under conditions of increased cornering load. SuperPro offers a great range of aftermarket sway bars engineered for many off-road applications, also offering many adjustable kits to best suit your 4WD build. The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
A mix of reasons, the main one being dual cabs are not meant to be loaded up. Which is where you see most of the body roll issues with 4WDs. There are no real disadvantages other then you either run airbags or sway bars, you cannot run both. The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
@@marioflack5140 Sorry ignore my last comment, I was confused with vehicles. For dual cabs like the Hilux in this video. You can only have either an airbag or sway bar, not both.
They do everywhere else in the world. it's not possible to buy a new car or truck in North America without one on each axle. mind you our rigs are twice the size but it's also why a bunch of stuff you guys have isnt aloud to be sold over here. next time your doing 110 wiggle the wheel back and forth if that sounds like a bad idea then you need a sway bar
@@donaldliverance2597 that's probably because a lot of the trucks/utes over there have coil sprung rear axles, due to leafs being much stiffer than coil springs in most cases they don't need swaybar.
So the biggest question is really; Why don’t manufacturers supply the vehicles with a rear sway bar automatically from the factory. If they are that good? There must be a reason they don’t include them??
The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
This is incorrect, sway bars should not be seen as a negative. SuperPro 4x4 sway bars are designed to improve vehicle performance off road and on road and when installed correctly for the right application you will see minimal or no loss of articulation loss.
The SuperPro 4x4 engineering team tested and designed many sway bar sizes when creating their product range. They found that the sway bar thickness they stuck with offered the most benefits.
I agree with the improvement in handling as I have added rear sway bars to old cars that didn't have them but as a 4wd, wouldn't this reduce articulation?
Brad Robinson yes and no depending on how good your suspension set up is but not really a must for 4wding more for people carrying very heavy loads and towing ect
The biggest resistance to the fitment of bigger 4x4 sway bar to 4WD vehicles is the flawed concept of the loss of articulation in the suspension. If the replacement sway bars are designed correctly and the sway bar links are lengthened, replacement sway bars can be fitted with minimal or no loss of articulation. However, the improvements to stability, safety and driveability will far outweigh any loss of articulation. So without reducing comfort or articulation, a sway bar will make the suspension system and tyres perform better, making the vehicle more responsive while neutralising understeer. Fitting a sway bar offers all round improvements in handling, tyre wear, comfort, safety and load carrying. It is one of the best handling improvements you can make.
