@@gamingtime468 Grievous is an opponent no ordinary YV warrior could face. He'd have to face a Warmaster like Lah if not the Supreme overlord himself. But then the question arises, how intimidated would said Vong get.
@@gamingtime468 No, no it doesn't. Grievous would destroy the Vong. He ate jedi for fun. Yes Jedi struggled against the Vong, but they still won. 99% of Jedi are weaker then Grievous 1v1. Grievous I would say can take 5 jedi on with slight struggle. Vong would probably be 10-20 at a time? Maybe more?
In my Star Wars tabletop, I had a General Grievous as a cameo. He killed some Jedi NPCs, and then chased players in a speeder like a metal cocroach from Hell. Then he shot at heroes Star Courier, using TWO missile launchers at once. His statblock included, that he "deals 1d4 Jedi of damage". Grievous is like Adam Smasher (in tabletop). You don't fight him. You survive to tell the tale.
You're not clever for aping the "Cthulhu eats 1d4 investigators per turn" thing and passing it off as your own btw (though I'm sure the sessions with Grievous were dope, just don't steal cute little jokes like that)
The theme of a machine replicating the motions but not the essence of an art- of a machine replacing a deeply human enterprise- has stronger resonance nowadays than it did twenty years ago, when Grievous was created as a character.
The description of what machine replication lacks, goes even deeper. The issue with machine replication, is that it cannot access the subtle connection to everything a human experiences and can share with others. The art. That spontaneous thing that is a literal connection to other humans. It can estimate that, and reduce a false connection, but never the true thing. Why? Simple. It is not a valid portion of the lineage. I do not necessarily me literal lineage. Genetic. Blood and bone. Adoptive even. I mean more like the Abrahamic lineage. He’s considered a father in faith. A lineage of belief. Well such is any group of people connected by life and work. Which can and is a cohesive force. A machine cannot either produce a legitimate connection to it, only an estimation of what was and has been. But it cannot produce what constitutes a proper evolution of that lineage. Worse. That lineage is a feedback. That art is a feedback. If you introduce falsity and do not differentiate, you create unpredictable feedback. Which is not only going to destroy your model for faking it. It’s going to begin to destroy the feedback of motion to art that constitutes a lineage of thought it’s attempting to replicate. The antidote is looking for true good. And good truth. Truth is what is most true at the most levels. Good is the things worthy to stand the longest. They can be used to measure off of each other. The peak is your aim.
I had a giant lego of General Grievous when I was little, and he was a major comfort for me during some dark periods of my life. I still have that lego now as an adult, and I'm never going to sell it. During those dark times, General Grievous was my hero
@TheHorsemanOfTheApocalypse yeah, I suppose it is ironic lol. But hey, Grievous did some good things too, such as when he defended his people from the yamrii
Grievous's backstory is what made me fall in love with the character. Just adds a lot to his badass exterior. The backstory I refer to is the one where he got tricked into the cybernetics
My favorite Grievous Moment is actually in YOUR own written fanfiction from the Hypoori POV RU-vid Video you did here on Geetsly's! "I am… the future!" Still gives me chills! Because the lead up to this is so amazing and the moment itself is just classic grievous! Truly amazing work guys!
I like to think that Grievous is both the cartoon villain and the murderous psychopath. If you underestimate him you will reach a point in the fight where you realize you are deeply screwed and probably going to end up as a part of his collection.
"I'll never understand why you submitted yourself to the modifications" "IMPROVMENTS!!! I submit to nobody" He was a puppet for sure, but he already wanted to do alot of what the sith needed him for, and he'd probably still see it all as worth it to cause the jedi tofall
General Grievous is my favorite Star Wars character. Since his introduction back in 2003 I've been a fan. 20 years later and he's still my favorite character only slightly above Darth Vader.
Grievous does stack the odds in his favor, but understand this: the Jedi by nature have the odds stacked in their favor. It took over a millenium of hiding, scheming, plotting, and manipulating for the Sith to destroy the Jedi Order. And the Sith were closer to being the Jedi’s equals than any other being in the Galaxy. Few fights involving a Jedi are ever truly fair.
Grevious :"The weakness of the flesh disgusted me. I seek to embrace the strength and certainty of durasteel" *Happy adeptus mechanicus mechanical noises*
@@merafirewing6591 Or he would become friend with Necrons, since they too cannot feel anything anymore. Though Necrons seek to have flesh again, so perhaps Grevious won't like them.
Grievous is one of my favourite characters. It’s a shame he got limited spotlight in Revenge of the Sith and even the Clone Wars. I’d love to see more of him fighting and killing random Jedi, like what he did in Tales of the Empire, which was one of his coolest appearances especially with the new animated model.
Acolyte has helped make clear the Jedi often act swiftly and are willing at times at least willing to put getting a good result over doing what is right. They were willing to arrest Ashoka without any real proof cuz they were more concerned with being perceived as being in control
Yeah the acolyte did do some things right although those things still are controversial. Like the Jedi not being 100% good and righteous and instead sometimes being morally grey and questionable. And that one Senator who was questioning the Jedi was a great touch. Legends Grievous had a great reason to hate the Jedi because they did morally questionable actions at best, similar to the acolyte.
23:03 I hate to say it but, this fits nearly one to one with the current plague that is AI in the visual arts field. As an artist myself hearing what you and the resources describing that monstrosity that is Grievous, it truly is what is happening in the real world right now.
Grievous & Maul are my favorite characters in Star Wars. Which is my #1? Well it changes and depends on my mood. Watching this video Grievous is my favorite.
You can draw many parallels between Grievous and Vader. Both were cruel, great warriors, and relentless in their hunt for Jedi. As great as they were, neither fully was able to achieve their full potential. If Grievous were force sensitive, I feel he would be unstoppable. If Vader didn’t have a piece of Anakin, I feel he would be unstoppable.
Grievous has been my favorite character since I was 5 years old. I wish we could have gotten better depictions of his character in the movies or TV shows.
A new Geetsly video. This will make a fine addition to my collection. lol. Now that the joke is out of the way time for my attempt at an insightful comment. XD, 8:04-8:24: Hey now, just because his emotions might be artifical, doesn't mean there any less real, as Pixel from Lego Ninjago Season 12 once pointed out when it came to machines and their emotions. Milton Dire: But you're a robot. What you experience as emotion is merely a simulation of emotion. It's just code. Ones and zeros. Pixel: As are yours. They are electrical impulses in your brain. Also, much like you Geetsly, I try to defend the Jedi and I still greatly admire and like them, but them looking down at Grievous just because he turned himself into mostly a machine so he could beat them is very arrogant of them. The Force doesn't automatically make someone all powerful and unstoppable, the large amounts of dead Jedi and Sith can attest to that. Not everyone is lucky enough to be born Force Sensative, and even some that are aren't lucky enough to recieve proper training so they can properly perfect their gifts, as Luke once said, "Talent without training is meaningless." And Anakin prove that in Attack of the Clones when he fought Dooku. Anakin may be the most powerful Force User ever, but without knowing how to use that power properly or being up against someone faster and more manverable then all that power is meaningless as he'll never hit his opponent. The Jedi should be more respectful to those that choose to fight without the Force, if there all about fair and honor and stuff, since they disliked how Grievous would use four blades to gang up on a Jjedi using one, then they should respect what others have to do to fight against the Force without using the Force itself, like all the tricks and gadets Mandalorians devolved to fight Jedi. It's always impressive when someone without the Force can beat someone with it by simplying using their brain and skill. Again using brains and skill, as Cad Bane once pointed out any idiot can kill a Jedi with a sniper rifle it doesn't take much thought or skill, what's truly impressive is fighting a Jedi head on, being able to tank a Force Ppush or get back up from one and then retailaiting with you're own ways to fight without the Force and still win. Of course, Grievous did take it to an unhealthy extream and that is a legitmate reason for the Jedi to look down on him, but still.
End of the day, Grievous is like almost all major enemies the jedi face from their own galaxy. Forged, in large part, by the stupidity of the order that lost any semblance of balance millennia ago.
28:12 - 28:21 Wasn't there a Sith Lord who wanted to do this exact thing, but on a Galactic scale? I believe it was Tenebrous (Plagueis's master) if I recall correctly.
The death of Grievous was an inevitable, no matter how it may have come about. Despite all of his technological power and terror, he was never truly a match for a living soul from an organic being, or one who is connected to the Force. We all know the Force represents many things like community, but there’s one other that isn’t acknowledged as often: Spirit. There’s nothing wrong with technology or technological advancements, but to rely too much on technology means to sacrifice something machine can never hope to truly possess. There is a reason why Yoda said the mind is powerful and suggested to use it well in the first episode of the Clone Wars. We have all that we need, or at the very least that final piece of the puzzle, within us to overcome any obstacle or hardship we might face. And to use it to do so is a mere fraction of its potential - of our potential.
In my life when stress is at the highest points it can get I start getting sleep paralysis it’s no joke I don’t get scared anymore but man it sucks iv learned to lower my stress so it hasn’t happened in years
I've always had one serious issue with Grievous....being mostly machine, being not with the force, why can't the Jedi just throw him around? He has no abilities of the force! Why can't they just crush him, like what Windu had partially done to him? It makes no sense, he should be nothing to them in power! If he had some racial ability to resist the force or something, that's one thing. Maybe certain metals to resist the force, but that's never mentioned, either. So, it makes no sense to me.
He is made to overwhelm the Jedi's focus and limit their force abilities so that they can not push him around as they are too busy screaming in terror and blocking the flurry of saber strikes which allows grievous to make the killing blow. Does it make sense now
EXCEPT... IN Grievous's case the Cyborg warrior form WAS made to be a combat form of the highest an deadliest type available at the time. While ALSO being efficient, advanced with top notch systems available at the time for such a system, an even COMFORTABLE... Nothing to distract or detract from his abilities... NOT the case for Vader... Which was the EXACT POLAR OPPOSITE in about EVERY way while STILL being an effective Cyborg Form.. an being about the ONLY way to stay alive while being MADE to suffer for allowing himself to play out the events to make such measures a requirement anyways.. EVEN MORE insulting to Vader in the timeline where Grevious ALLOWS and even WANTS it .. Can see Vader enviously looking at that muttering "must be nice .."
Depends on the Multiversal iteration. Remember, any mook horror show involving the Batman works out as long as we're talking the DCAU, Burtonverse Nolanverse, and Arkhamverse Batmen, NOT the 1966 and Schumacherverse Batmen. Now, all we need is for certain works of fiction nowadays to openly pay homage more on Clone Wars 2003 and less on the Filoni stuff. Cultural victories matter a lot these days.
This may be the autism/adhd talking but the only reason I like star wars is because I am fixated on General Grievous. Thank you for still making grievous content to this day
As a star wars fan I wish We had crossover comics or something the Covenant and Tau Empire Would feet' so well in Star Wars. And there's so many scenarios they could do with it Could you imagine the UNSC Finding The rest of the galaxy😅 or Master Chief Being brought to the emperor, and i can Imagine the elites becoming vader new Fist And the tau Would be pretty interesting That's a third faction in the clone wars but I think would most likely lose in the end ( But I know the emperor would love the technology they have It will be very useful to him )
I've always had a HUGE problem with how the Jedi dealt with Grievous. It would be so mind-numbingly easy to destroy him with a simple telekinetic use of the force, that any average knight would be able to do so. The common counter-argument about not using the Force to attack is destroyed when you realize that, as this video states, the Jedi saw Grievous as an abomination, and not worthy of the respect that they would afford to a living being. They use the force on Droids endlessly in the Clone Wars, and this would be no different to them. It could even be argued as more justified and poetic to destroy Grievous with the very Force that he had turned his back on. The only conclusion that can be reached is that the Jedi were determined to beat Grievous in the arena that he had chosen, to prove that their skills still surpassed mechanical analysis and augmentation. Whether you see that as a righteous judgement, or as pride-fueled gatekeeping of their martial techniques, the fact remains that the Jedi CHOSE to allow Grievous to slaughter billions of innocents, when they could have stopped him at ANY time, if they truly wanted to.
There’s another reason: Grievous was often on the front lines and even more often had droids around him. It’s difficult for Jedi to focus and center themselves while under fire and knowing Grievous is near, and most were unprepared for the Clone Wars though focusing on defending blaster bolts more than lightsaber combat. There were few opportunities to confront Grievous alone. But you’re right in that the Jedi were hoping to beat him at his own game rather than let the Force flow through them
Wohh u said hes not all that complex . Hes extremely complex and unique a kashek warrior looked upnto by his clan hes a tactioun but runs when needs to better to survive than die his kashek heritage is complex . His family his feelings .NOW HE IS ABDARKSIDE HALF DROID BUILT BY THE POWER OF THE DARK SIDE HE IS A NON STOP KILLING MACHINE A CYBERNETIC NIGHTMARE WITH LIGHTSABERS AND ALL LIGHT SABER FORMS A HUSK HE FEELS NOTHING HE KILLS FOR JOY HE IS PAIN
If grievous had some parts of his body or if he was bio organic ( A mixture of machines and flash ) He would have been clapping the cheeks of every female jedi He gets his hands on , and surprisingly, that wouldn't be as dark as other things in Star Wars are ( General Grievous actually has a lot of children that are still alive, so there are many descendants of general grievous )