Why Have You Forsaken Me?: Ultimately with R.C. Sproul 

It absolutely breaks and amazes me how GOD ALLMIGHTY planned and carried out everything that the wonderous, precious, HOLY cross entails...for me..the chief of sinners. ❤ 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤😭😭😭😭😭❤

In order for the debt to of our sins to be paid, Jesus had to suffer the full wrath of God. I would suspect that when Jesus, the night before, was sweating blood, it was over the prospect of being forsaken which would be more punishing than the betrayal, injustice, mockery and physical torture combined.

Koine Greek Understanding of With-ness: 1. Syn -> Example: together in a room with s/o 2. Meta -> Example: along side someone 3. Pros -> Example: Face-to-face; most intimate way Profound usage describes Jesus with the Father “In the beginning was the Word and the Word was pros (with) God …”

"withness"... A deep yet easily oversighted word in the categories of scripture. The word of God is rich with wisdom and transforming truth. We have a reliable word in and from God.

Thanks for sharing this biblical message by the late Dr R.C. Sproul. ❤

Reference to Psalm 22, which is prophecy., so is Psalm 2, he's coming back to bring judgment Psalm 22: 1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, from the words of my groaning? Psalm 22: 6 But I am a worm and not a man, scorned by mankind and despised by the people. 7 All who see me mock me; they make mouths at me; they wag their heads; 8 “He trusts in the Lord; let him deliver him ;let him rescue him, for he delights in him!” Psalm 22: 16 For dogs encompass me; a company of evildoers encircles me; they have pierced my hands and feet- 17 I can count all my bones-they stare and gloat over me; 18 they divide my garments among them, and for my clothing they cast lots. All fulfilled at the cross. Psalm 2:8: Ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage, and the ends of the earth your possession. 9 You shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.” 10 Now therefore, O kings, be wise; be warned, O rulers of the earth. 11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling. 12 Kiss the Son,lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, for his wrath is quickly kindled. Blessed are all who take refuge in him. He came first as the Lamb, He comes again as the Lion.

The separation Jesus experienced makes sense when you consider this: None of us can follow the law without breaking it. Therefore, we were cursed by the law. We were separated from God because of this curse. Jesus willingly took the curse upon Himself and paid the price of the curse, which is death and separation from God. So, as He took our punishment upon Himself, He had to endure the worst suffering, which is separation from God.

Very cool Its great to learn the Greek and Hebrew amazing

Thank you kindly! Best Regards,

Because He Jesus was innocent! He committed no sin nor was their any deceit found in His mouth. He only went about doing good and healing people.

Thank you ligonier again 🇹🇹

Jesus was talking to us.

I have not yet had anyone explain those words that Christ spoke to my satisfaction? For one thing Christ would not have to ask “why” have you forsaken me? Christ should have, would have had a complete understanding of what was going to happen by virtue of who he was and what the end of his ministry was to be from the beginning.

It seems to be that Christ was surprised that God turned his back at this moment. Otherwise wouldn’t he have said…. Something different.

I still dont get it

When I think about it, like that, I think how... Wrong it is, and how it utterly contradicts the revelation of the Triune God... Thanks for sharing, but this understanding of the forsaking of the Son by the Father is... At best, a blessed inconsistency, as R.C. loved to say. So that's my thoughts on it. My question would be, how can we as Trinitarians not contradict ourselves when talking about the Matthew passage?

Moses said to God Show me your Face

I don't often disagree with R C Sproul, but I believe Psalm 22 teaches that Christ wasn't forsaken by the father.

Why Have You Forsaken Me? Because Jesus Christ was the sacrifice of Cain. 1. The sacrificial animal had to clean and unblemished. Jesus Christ was whipped before his death, thus blemishing him. 2. The people presenting the sacrifice were supposed to be repented and/or humble and grateful. The Romans who killed Jesus Christ didn't care about the God of the Jews, and the Jews who wanted Jesus dead were angry and thought Jesus to be a blasphemer who deserved to die. 3. The Levite priests were supposed to perform the sacrifice, but before that, they to go through a purification ritual themselves. The Romans who killed Jesus were unclean and unfaithful to the God of the Jews. This is irrefutable evidence that the God of the Jews rejected Jesus Christ as a sacrifice. Jesus was unclean and blemished, and so were the people who killed him. This made Jesus Christ the sacrifice of Cain, which God previously rejected.

There's a reason I don't listen to men like this and their 'knowledge' about the scriptures. While it all sounds impressive, it's all based upon human wisdom and reasoning and theological knowledge, not true biblical truth. Jesus wasn't forsaken by God, neither did God turn His back on Jesus. God doesn't forsake a righteous man, that's biblical truth. Jesus said these words, that were very familiar to the Jews to point to the work God was doing. Read the whole psalms and it's very clear what Jesus meant and what the purpose of his words on the cross were. God didn't abandon Jesus, but Jesus was showing why he was on the cross and what truly was happening. How through the cross salvation would come to the entire world. God never forsakes a righteous man and if anyone was righteous, Jesus was. Neither does God abandon us, not even when we sin. He doesn't turn His back on us, because we are the righteousness of God in Christ. That's the truth that should be proclaimed, not these confusing teachings that don't reflect the goodness of God.