Why He Won't Propose Marriage 

That was so sweet on his side I feel like he would have proposed on the spot if she had said she wanted to

It really solidifies the fact that Ben loves Cristine and wants to spend his life with her. He just knows he doesn't have to prove that love with a fancy public party.

That was literally THE best statement he could have made. I absolutely love their relationship with eachother.

I wish my long term bf had that view, he just 'doesn't believe in it' :/

Ben is her slave I thought

This is true. I am married but that paper means nothing (we got married for tax reasons but dated for 5 yrs). The love for one another keeps the relationship going.

Yes

2000th like ayyy

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No sometimes it is xd

omg i miss seeing them together

ak güvercin me too

miracle stewart PLOT TWIST

And Cristine is married to DavidsTea

Oop

My husband and I aren't legally married anymore because our oldest child has autism and we can't afford her treatment unless I'm legally a single mother. Marriage is irrelevant if the relationship is strong. Some life situations are different and because married and single people don't have the same rights and privileges under the government it depends on what you need out of it. Its a government document and honestly the legality of marriage kind of hurts a lot of people both ways. If you love eachother just love eachother. There is way way too much hanging on that document in my opinion.

I’m learning a lot from the both of you about your views on marriage it’s fascinating thank you for sharing it an outlook in life I never considered i personally don’t wish to be married but my fiancé proposed to me, but he and I have been engaged for 6 yrs and we don’t plan to get married because in our country I would belong to my husband as well as my earnings being deducted and if I wish to go to another country without my husband I will not be allowed to exit the country or enter it without him (and I am a pilot so that rule is plain stupid that means I need his permission every time I WORK 🤦🏻‍♀️)and he was opposed to that and that’s how I know I’ll stay with this man and he will stay with me even without the contract of marriage (he is an attorney so he deals with cases marital problems and issues that deals with this exact problem that’s why he is more open about equality in a marriage (tho I also find it funny that he is a “marriage doctor” but doesn’t want marriage >^

Now that's love. 💖💖💖

So unfair...

@@earthstar7534 that prove the institution of marriage is ridiculous lots of hugs to your little one

Hi Katie! I quoted this post your name in a comment on this video. The comment says "I honestly understand that fully. Marriage honestly doesn't matter. If you genuinely wanted to tie the knot but avoid the party situation, you could just go and get married without the party. You can just head over and sign the papers, but at the end of the day, it isn't necessary. Taylor's Higginbotham's comment says "Marriage is just 'I love you so much I wanna get the government involved' and betting half your crap that you'll love them forever." And I wholeheartedly agree with that statement. I also like Katie Hasset's comment stating, 'Who needs marriage when 2 people love each other. It causes so many people to be stressed.' " Edit: If you don't like your name being mentioned or your comment quoted, I can edit the comment above. Thanks for reading!

It isn’t that important. But it can make things like finances and taxes easier. And in the US it can be important for medical issues. Idk how it can be for other countries, but if your partner is on their death bed in hospital and you’re not married, you can be denied visitation and have no say over what happens at all.

@@MiuXiu you're right. This is one of the main reasons people get married anyway. I don't think it matters on a love basis. I just think it matters financially and having responsibility

Omg there's so many likes thank you guys xx

Katie Hassett ehhh.... why do that

This is different state by state too so its even more annoying

Mirian V why can’t they get it together and just make all the laws the same, so things are easier? like I don’t get why they make it hard on themselves??

Rachel Rodriguez because state power is important in the states, that's how some states can have medicinal marijuana, and how the north didn't have slaves while the south did. It was how the United States was made.

True, Also If you're not planning to marry, better write your will now itself, If you die your property and money you've gained probably with help from your S/O will be going to their parents or (most probably) bitchy sisters and brothers

In my state, common law does not exist. And honestly, the "tax benefits" is bs. When we claimed taxes at the end of the year, while "single" we both would get $2k or more. He has a son & we have a son together. He would claim his & I would claim ours. One year bc we had shitty jobs, got $10k back combined. After getting married, we're lucky to get $2k. We got married primarily my jobs insurance was going to charge me $2k/yr for "domestic partner" coverage. While I love the fact that my husband can speak for me if i need him to, i regret getting married bc honestly, if we mess up anything, we're both at fault.

Jennifer Marie my boyfriend of 5 years and I are planning something like this. We’re in no rush to get married at all but when we do, it won’t be a wedding, we’re just gonna go on an amazing vacation and do something small and local there. (:

We rented a cottage in the highlands, brought 6 friends, and didn't have any plan for dinner or actually even the exact spot we'd marry. The registrar met us at some mountains we liked and we walked until we found a nice spot. We made it to the only pub in the area for last call on food, then had a bonfire behind our cabin. No stress, no 100 people to kiss and greet, no structured speeches. It was fun, and easy, and a year later I'm still so happy we did it the way we did. 😊 So I feel you!! I think more couples should remember it's about you and your love!

My husband and I got married on a mountain by one of his close friends. Then afterwards we went out to eat at our favorite restaurant and ordered everything on the menu 😂

True they described a wedding not a marriage

yeah if i get married i’ll definitely elope

Ikr 💖💖🥴

That impact❤

I was looking for this comment!

Same!!

Where does he said it?

Thank you for pointing that out, because I think it really highlights that people with different goals for marriage and kids can still be really good friends.

@@mikkurzhal7390 Your welcome! I just thought that since they are the 3 "ladies of RU-vid" and they are all friends, I would make a joke about it.

Wait..saf and Tyler want kids?I didn't know that

@@denarisfeilda2678 they mentioned it in passing I believe?

Lol, love it. I’ll take a Corrine and Rob please! ☝️😝😂

True tho

Hi Taylor! I quoted this post and your name in a comment on this video. The comment says "I honestly understand that fully. Marriage honestly doesn't matter. If you genuinely wanted to tie the knot but avoid the party situation, you could just go and get married without the party. You can just head over and sign the papers, but at the end of the day, it isn't necessary. Taylor's Higginbotham's comment says "Marriage is just 'I love you so much I wanna get the government involved' and betting half your crap that you'll love them forever." And I wholeheartedly agree with that statement. I also like Katie Hasset's comment stating, "Who needs marriage when 2 people love each other. It causes so many people to be stressed." " Ps. If you don't like your name being mentioned or your comment being quoted, I can edit this comment. Thanks for reading!

@@isabelladgriff hey thank you for asking, I dont mind at all!

Taylor Higginbotham Your welcome! Thanks for letting me use it. I honestly hate being told I’m unoriginal or seeing that my comment got copied, so I like to tell them if I can that I posted the comment and to include their name.

Don't see anything wrong with that. It's wanting to have your relationship acknowledged by your government.

Same. I love going to parties but not a party celebrating me, I don't like being the center of attention.

If I ever get married I want immediate family only. Have a bbq potluck with hamburgers and hotdogs....super low key and relaxed and my cats will be there too...people can drift out as they like no need to stay for hours

I love this

EXACTLY! honestly id still probably elope but id literally just do it bc it's legal now & to spite the government

as you shouldddd

That's a horrible idea. Marrying someone just because you can vs because they will make a good life partner is terribly flawed.

@@tiredtears4177 if we don't get along we can just divorce again 😂

Maddy Stidham it cost my husband and I $5 to get married lmao.

Hope Locke how

i mean don’t they want to make it legal? i get why but what about in documents don’t they want to be legally together but can scratch the label of husband/wife (do they call each other gf/bf or like partner?) but no hate though! just curious i don’t know anyone of this situation also weddings/marriages doesn’t need to be expensive there are just people who like to make it expensively special

Hope Locke not everyone is like that

S we got married in Oklahoma. Marriage licenses are $5 if you get premarital counseling. We got eloped in our pastors backyard!

Vanessa Lewis so did my husband 💞

Mine did too! 🥰

In Spain we have what I'd call "promise rings", they're silver bands that both partners wear to show that they're in a serious committed relationship, and when you get married you start using a gold band instead of the silver. (it's kinda traditional and not everybody does it anymore, but it's still common)

true, my fiancée is wearing the engagement ring in my place cause he likes it more 😂

@@anelecky I'm Spanish and I've never heard of that wtf 😅

@@ckdmdkdmsldm100 I just spelled her name wrong :/ I only ever really just hear her say it and maybe I just forgot

@@wonderstruckaj lemme guess.. Someone came for you for spelling her name wrong and now they chickened out and deleted their comment

@@marieantoinettepaddelboot3149 I didn't even realize they deleted their comment until you replied😂 But yeah...

@@wonderstruckaj how very mature of them...

Why do people get so uptight if you make a mistake. "Uh- it is spelled this way" who cares?

midnight Lilly animations that’s my dream 😂

RIGHT?!

Samantha Myers I want to get married but don’t want to throw a big wedding or have kids lol. I’m not sure a lot of people have a similar opinion as me as most either don’t want to get married at all or have marriage but also kids.

I just recently got married and I did the whole big princess wedding and I didn’t regret a moment nor a dime spent. But I’ve always been the person to enjoy big parties like that. But I wanted to comment on the whole asking the father and being given away. My fiancé didn’t ask anybody, he more so told them and instead of being given away I was walked down the isle by both my parents and at the end of the isle my in-laws and fiancé waited for us. We used the moment as a joining of 2 families as opposed to me leaving one to be apart of another.

Samantha Myers my Brother and his husband got married without telling anyone at a courthouse wedding. The only reason we figured out is because my cousin told me that my brother was referring to his fiancé as his husband on Twitter!

I got married in feb, we went to the registry office (court house for US) with 10 of us, and went for tea and scones 😅. Best day ever, even being heavily pregnant, on crutches due to pelvic pain and with a giant swollen purple leg due to a blood clot

My aunt and uncle eloped, and my aunt's dad version of "giving her away" was high fiving her and handing her the car keys. I think it's the funniest thing

That's what my husband and I did! And then we went to the zoo after lunch.

Love this idea! I walked down the aisle by myself 😂 by choice. I've always been very independent. Both my parents were present, but we were told by our officiant in the rehearsal that its actually no longer a common practice to use the whole "who gives this woman away" thing. We live in Canada lol

My cousin did that. If I get married, I'd love them both to walk me, or just my little brother for the fun of it

They've already made a commitment to each other. They don't seem to think badly of marriage; they're just explaining why it's not for them because people ask them a lot.

Because they are in a common law relationship, they have actually made a commitment both legally and financially and emotionally

I just dont see the point against getting married if you are already going to commit to someone longer than most marriages. Its the 21st century, you can get a prenup if thats the issue, otherwise it just seems very noncommittal either way not to considering a ring and wedding are not even a requirement of getting married.

@@xxnekonekox It's not a point *against* getting married. They're just not doing it. They're not saying anyone else shouldn't.

@@xxnekonekox You shouldn't need a point against it. You should need a point for. It's literally just a piece of paper. If you want to get married because it means something to you then that's fine. Personally, I don't really care. I don't need a piece of paper to prove I love someone. We already know. Prenups aren't the issue. It just isn't needed unless you get benefits for it like tax. If you don't, then why bother with the hassle?

Lara I guess it’s different all over Germany because I live there too and all engaged men around me don‘t have an engagement ring and the women have separate wedding rings 😬

@@usch5271 that could be. I mean every region has their different tradition but I thought this was a thing in whole Germany. I live in Baden Württemberg so I just know what we do here

In Croatia man and woman walk together in church, dad giving away daughter is against the whole “this is my decition”

@@Pepa14pig same here, i like it more like that

@@holladiew4ldfee nope, I live in BW too and a friend of mine got engaged and she wears the ring. She wants to other one during/after the marriage

I don't think it's rare these days...depends on the country a bit, of course. In the US, it might be rare, because Christianity and the patriarchal background is very alive and well, so a lot of people still grow up to believe that you have to get married and have kids like God indended, etc.

in the region that i live in Germany, is actually rare to see married young couples ( most who are married are older generation )

@@Futu06 Even in the US I've been seeing it more and more. Like example off the top of my head: RU-vid. Threadbanger doesn't want kids. Markiplier has said he doesn't want kids, and he and Amy honestly don't seem in too much of a hurry to get married either, when they've been dating for like 6 years now. Captainsparklez tried to keep it really on the downlow, but a twitch friend revealed he got a vasectomy--so he doesn't want kids. Like it's still pretty rare, but more and more in the US I'm seeing people--especially people with positions of influence over the younger generation--openly not wanting kids or marriage.

@@Futu06 it’s not rare

Family yes, children no.

Theres actually a bill in the US that’s trying to add pet custody to divorce proceedings

@@erinwells7782 This is something my husband and I have talked about. It stresses me out to think we would have to split our pets (a nightmare for me).

@@erinwells7782 ok no. Because if something belongs to partner one, and partner two gets everything, that's not okay. If it's your item, especially before you got married or even met, and we are just as emotionally attached to it pets as we are children, but still. And a split custody is already stressful for kids, but it would be even worse for an animal that doesn't understand what's going on. I'm not sorry that I'm ranting, but it's just a lot.

silentj624 r/woooosh

I agree about dropping money on a party for others. That's why our wedding was like a massive Xmas party. People were so confused, but I thought fuck it, I love Christmas and I'd rather spend money making me happy than my guests happy 😂 (it's also why we got married in December, which everyone moaned about coz they were cold)

Ashabriel Nadiva Candialmeera I’m glad someone gets it because that exchange left me confused... the whole narrative was pretty anti marriage but then he admitted that he would have proposed if she wanted to get married but a second later he backtracked when pressed on the statement. I really thought he was going to say he never considered it because it’s not what he wants, either. Hmm

@@alic6419 the thing is, he said "IF it did matter I would..." . He then explain that if it would've matter to them and had a different concept of it then yes sure. But they don't. He didn't backtracked, just stated a hypothetical situation. Hope I explained it well 😋

I don’t want to get married, I don’t see a point in it, my views are the same as Cristine. BUT if my boyfriend really wanted to, if it was his dream, if it made him happy, I would consider it. Of course. It’s not like having children. I mean, it’s just a paper. So I totally get what Ben meant. :)

@@alic6419 Basically "I love you and want to spend my life with you, just like a married couple does, but we are not married because neither of us feel the need to prove our love with a fancy public party." He's saying that neither of them value marriage as proof of lifelong commitment, but if they were in an alternate universe where they DID value it, they would have been married YEARS ago.

I’ve always thought of marriage as a way to officially announce to the world “ I want to spend the rest of my life with this person” and show physically at least how much in love with the person you are and that to me has weirdly always put a warm feeling in my heart lol. But I do see your point because in ye olden days marriage wasn’t for love- it was basically selling off women to gain more land or power. It’s interesting to me how much that has changed from a means to an end to a declaration of love. Also side note- if you choose to not get married to your partner, I am not saying you don’t love that person, merely that you love that person but don’t feel the need to announce it to the rest of the world by getting married.

lo l I literally only explained why people get married and why it’s fine if you don’t want to get married. If you don’t want to get married it’s fine, just don’t shit on people who do get married cuz it’s none of your business or money 🙄

Ella Soloveichik in ye olden days they very rarely loved each other lol

@@DoodleDoo2 I get what you're saying. Memory is precious, so moments like that can make you smile when you grow old. However, you aren't obligated to announce that to the world. Your relationship only includes you and your partner. You dont need anyone's validation, because you're the one that loves him and not your parents, or your friend. So marriage is not mandatory, and is only for those that likes to celebrate it with their family and friends.

Elena Ravenwood i never said you had to. I only explained why people who get married might want to get married.

In any relationship tbh. Marriage doesn't make a relationship last. Communication and trust does.

Exactly this for us! We're married young only because of the benefits we get with that paperwork in the military

Yep, my mother's cousin had to get married after 20 years of living together with kids because her husband was in dire conditions and discovered that if he died she and their kids would end up homeless, since on the paper only he was paying for the house and thus only he had rights on it

Not sure where you live, since it can be different in different countries, but I believe here in Canada after two people live together for a certain number of years they are automatically in a common law marriage. They can also go through some other legal papers, maybe alter their wills, etc., but I don’t think the emergency situation would be an issue under common law

Also, as they said in the vid, insurance is quite different here as well so it’s not necessary for couples to get married in almost all cases

@@lindsay4254 that's the point, in CANADA it works like this but it's the exception to the rule, in most places of the world you might have lived together and even had kids for decades, if there's no legal paper confirming you are a stable couple, you are complete strangers in front of the law.

@@KyrieFortune Are you American by any chance? Because that honestly just sounds screwed up In the UK next of kin is far looser and you can elect someone who isn't related to you - even a best friend. Obviously cohabiting couples also count within this. It's actually very common. There are some financial tax benefits to being married, but there also aren't any detriments to not being married either. I know your circumstances probably aren't unusual in places where a lot of emphasis is put on marriage such as asia or very religious countries, however for socially developed countries it just does not seem right.

no...? they aren’t?...

@@cora8298 woosh

pluviophile 93 do you mean r/woosh

Cora Rolfes common law marriage

Well.. no. Common-law partnerships are not the same as a marriage, as you don't need a license or witnesses or anything like that to become common-law. You just default to being a common-law couple in the eyes of the law if you have lived together for a certain number of years (depending on the province). Common-law is essentially a form of legal protection for couples who chose to not marry.

Yep.. it's basically a "It's yours now. My job here is done" thing

that’s why they call it “giving the bride away”!

Oh honey, no. Weddings were a business transaction, women were property, and it's also to make sure the bride can't run away. Why do you think women had a dowry? It's to make her more appealing. She didn't own her dowry, it was part and parcel of marrying her.

You should spend some time researching wedding traditions. It’s almost all patriarchal and icky.

In ancient Chinese culture they wouldn't even give a baby girl her own name cause she would become other people's property anyway

What do you mean with family meant marriage?

that’s really nice!!

Nerddom Square - yeah, I suppose as my parents were relatively old when they got married (50s) and had been together for over 20 years they knew they wouldn't get a divorce

They are in mine and I have politely started to skip them. As it is half have ended in divorce. These big weddings are so boring, all the same format. The only nice part is hanging out with family I have not seen for a while.

PeLu414 or better yet a sponsorship by David’s Tea

and cristine could wear her sweatpants and holo jacket

That would be fun to watch!!

More like banana and tea exchange, but i like the idea 🤣🤣

@@breatheinpoetry 'without the jewelry' = No ring

Louisa Jay I cant really speak for myself 3 weeks ago but I must’ve missed that 😂

@@breatheinpoetry I figured 😆. I realised after i posted it that the comment wasn't recent and immediately regretted saying anything

Louisa Jay I still appreciate it! I made myself look really dumb 🤣

I’m happy for you. That’s what I want