Why I Don't Talk About Dark Magician Anymore 

No, dzeeff, it is you who does not understand. You see, he's the *ultimate* wizard in terms of attack and defense.

You have to draw very specific cards, in a very specific order, at a very specific moment. This archetipe was made for yugi.

Commenters don't understand why Dzeef doesn't talk about Dark Magician anymore

Red-eyes Fanbase be like, we used to it

The reason why Blue-Eyes decks are so much better than any Dark Magician builds is because it benefits from so many generics Dragon support cards that aren't nessacarily Blue-Eyes cards. Return of the Dragon Lords, Dragon Shrine, Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon, Guardragons, etc. Where with Dark Magician there's not that many good generic spellcaster cards that work with the Dark Magician deck forcing you to mostly play cards that list ''Dark Magician'' in their text. The fact that Eye of Timaeus isn't searchable is a prime example of why the deck doesn't fully work.

it feels like Konami is too afraid to make dark magician good, maybe because they don't want that people hate the deck, still it is kinda lame compared to the crazy cards we have out here.

What you fail to realize. Dark Magician deck works if you believe in heart of the cards and if you cheat.

First Rule of Yugioh Club: Don't talk about Dark Magician

I was just asking myself a few days ago, "Why doesn't dzeeff talk about Dark Magician anymore?" and then the third finger on the monkey paw closed and this video appeared shortly thereafter.

People who play Dark Magician decks are truly the protagonist of their own lives. Much love and respect to all you beautiful people out there

My favorite pack opening channel just uploaded a video roasting another favorite monster. Ah shit here we go again

"...just to special summon a guy." 10/10

Alternate title: "Why nobody has made 'why nobody plays Dark Magician'"

Step 1 of how to "fix" Dark Magician decks: Make Eye of Timaeus searchable by Circle/Rod/Inheritance/etc.

Dark _Magician_ , the ultimate _Wizard_ who is also a _Spellcaster_ and with age.. will become a _Sage_

If Dark Magician wasn't Yugi's ace monster, DARK Spellcaster decks would have been using "Cosmo Queen" instead.

In my honest opinion, Dark Magician needs not only a better extra deck but also better circulation. I’ve found that Blue Eyes decks-as you said-make good use of Blue eyes. Dark magician seems to demand so much just to get DM himself in the field. He should be easier to summon.

*"With no monsters on the field, I summon Dark Magician and attack directly!"*

Maybe, this was the power level intended for both dark magician and blue eyes : not competitif for top table, but just good enough to fight at lower tables. This is why : both decks are good enough to make people want to come back to yugioh. But once they want to be really competitivee, they buy a second deck.

i played dark magician when i came back to yugioh around a year ago. this video does a great job explaining dank magicians flaws. its a shame the first protags ace card and its deck is so low tier. blue eyes got its time to shine, how about dark magician? im going to write a strongly worded letter to konami.

Dark Magician sadly has way too many moving parts. It should be a control deck based around spells, and it sort of, kind of, pulls this off. The issue is, is that all of its support is just straight weaker than Blue Eyes and Red Eyes for...no reason. I could live with the extra costs to the spells if they had more power than a similar spell but most of the times its either the same or just weaker. Take Dark Magic Curtain, its worse than Magician's Veil in pretty much every way except its searchable, and that is the singular reason why people use it. I still use Veil as it lets me summon other stuff when necessary. Another one is Magician of Dark Illusion. Why doesn't it count as Dark Magician in the GY too? Konami knew that that was a good thing because Dragon Spirit of White was great and that was one of the reasons. All in all Dark Magician has been shafted...just cuz. And its sad because it would be a lot of fun to play.

I always thought that the flavour texts for Dark Magician, despite its importance in the Yugioh lore, is somewhat lacklustre. It wouldn’t change anything about the competitive aspect of Dark Magician, but this new flavour texts would do his legacy better justice: *“A Magician who is known as the Eternal and Faithful Servant of the Pharaoh. Among Spellcasters he is referred as one of the most important Founders of the Magical Arts.”*

But your tone is the same when you are joking and talking seriously

If you manage to catch your opponent with no monsters on the field, you can special summon Dark Magician and attack for game. I don't see any other archetype that has the ability to do that.

I was a little cynical about you, dzeeff, before watching this video. I used to think that you made these critical videos as a way to laugh at bad players. However, I recognise now that you actually really love this game and you're trying to teach people what is wrong with the decks or cards that they play which are hindering them from developing. Congrats on the 100k man!

*Yami Yugi/Atem starts typing*

Dzeeff doesn't understand that the Dark Magician archetype requires a true belief in the heart of the cards. Hence why only Yugi has topped with it.

I have the best Dark Magician deck. It is so good that I'm not allowed to take it to any tournaments because they know it will finish at 1st place. Here's the deck list: Main Deck 3x Dark Magicians Side Deck 10x White Bordered Islands 37x Islands

now do Red-Eyes and put an end to this "uhhhhh potential" bs once and for all

I always run into at least one Dark Magician deck whenever I go to my locals (even played against one in the last one I went to). thankfully none of the players that used them have been jerks the last one even helped me get my Salmangreat deck off the ground.

I think Eternal Soul is just like that for flavour. When the tablet is destroyed, the monster summoned from is also destroyed, or something like that. Not really sure why it destroys all your monsters though.

I always wanted you to talk about Dark Magician, because I really like that card! Even though it wasn't what I wanted or expected, I still enjoyed the video a lot and am grateful for that and your content in general

DM: I’m the ultimate wizard Endymion: Hold my counter

Dark Magician is the only card in the game that you can summon with no cards on the board and swing for game

Let me make a discussion about Dark Magician so I can discuss why I never discuss Dark Magician

Yo dzeef I'm glad that you're even talking about dark magician because you have some pull in the community and maybe Konami will see this and give our boys something. I'd love to see blue eyes and dark magician topping again

Talk about Dragunities please. Id like to hear your opinions on them. From their start over their glory time to today.

Dark Magician cards look awesome. I'm not saying that just because they're in the anime; they look badass. That doesn't make them good gameplay-wise. I think a lot of people need to realize that.

Congrats on 100k by the way. Been watching since 50kish, will keep doing so.

Been watching your videos for awhile even after taking some breaks from the game. Thank you for your insight on the game and interesting videos. Congrats on 100K subs, well deserved

Not a pack opening channel An open roast for yugioh channel

Because we all know dark magician needs to be banned, so there is no reason to talk about it

Did you draw Rod? Search Circle. Activate Circle. Pray you get Navigation or Soul off Circle. Did you draw Apprentice/DM/Summoner's Art/Illusion Magic? Search DM. Set Navigation/Soul. Do all of this while dodging Ash/Droll/Veiler/Impermanence/Ogre. Pass turn. Draw, standby, opponent activates Twin Twisters/MST/Ogre on your Soul. Extend handshake.

100K!!! Way to go dzeef!

Banned Galaxy Tomahawk was the final nail on the coffin of me playing DM, even fucking around on Percy, as that was the best card in the deck. Rip.

Because the Endymion, mighty master of magic is the Chad of the spellcasters

Love the video! Good job bro!

Lol I love the funny text on Eternal Soul. 😂 Great video, keep up the awesome content.

Then could you talk more about our missing Volcanic support? Day 75 of waiting for the fire nation to bring more Volcanic support

*reads flavor text on Dark Magician* Endymion(TMMM/FSS): *snorts laughing all the way into his Citadel*

So I see recent responses, which is cool because it means you're still active in these old videos! I just thought I'd add the "Introducing... The Scrub" from David Sirlin (you can find it on his blog) as a really good read about the kind of players you encounter in the comments (you brush up against the same concept in this video). They're in every. Single. Competitive. Community. I used to be one, sadly. I don't know if you have any more videos talking about this mindset (specific to the Yu-Gi-Oh community), but I love seeing high level players talking about how these mindsets hold people back.

Magician soul is great dark magician card but even better outside of it so did It really help dm or did it help other decks more?

hey you should do a series where you take 1 card from a pack every day until you build a deck, then take that deck to a tourny

Dark Magician is literally Zombie World with more steps.

Congrats for 100k, been here since 20k

I'm interested on your take on the archetypes that rely on Tributes or running some kind of Tribute engine as part of their main strategy, like the "-lswarm" and "Hieratic" decks

"As long as they don't misinform themselves and think that deck is more competitive than it actually is" - Well, here I sit building the Krawler deck to end all decks xD

You know our boi dzeeff doesn't care about Dark Magician anymore when he makes a video specifically about not caring about Dark Magician.

Congrats on 100k subs dzeeff

Eternal soul + Dragon Knight is pretty strong but the summoning Dragon Knight is a pain. Eye of Timaeus not being searchable is one of the things that hurts this deck. Made a DM deck when I got back into yugioh earlier this year thought it was good, started playing more consistent rouge decks and you really do start to see all the short comings of DM decks.

My build of Dark Magician is obviously the best. I don't have a Dark Magician deck.

"Dark Magician Debunked" was a funny video -- still holds up.

What do you think of dm pendulum? Gives a lot more summoning power and the hard pendulum summon can make circle more active on banishing, as well as the rank 7 pool giving negations more easily by pendulum/odd eyes engine

What do you think about Oriana from the Nordic deck

At least Dark Magician is competitive in Duel Links..

Dark Magician fan boi here,guys just admit it,Dark Magician is bad, nothing wrong with playing it casually, it's just bad competitively :)

You are great Dzeeff and I love you. :)

What's up with the dark magician around 5:40 that says it can't be used in a duel?

Bad dark magician jokes- *Dark Magician? More like Dank Magicians! HARHARHARHAR! *Magicians of black cannabis *My dealer is named skilled Green magician I loved dark magician back in the day but i even know as a casual player its not competitive 2 tributes without an effect. 2500 atk beatstick. It does have decent support tho.

Your video on blue eyes ultimate dragon the other day triggered a bunch of people in a blue eyes group I'm in.

this video came out on my birthday, neat!

I use a combo of dark magican the dragon knight w/ eternal soul and mist body what u think about the combo

Those who play Dark Magicians are there for the fun, not the toxicity.

LOL I actually just built a Dark Magician deck just to spice things up at my locals. I don't expect to wreck everyone there, but with my side deck built to resist the meta, I hope to cheese a few wins :p

You can easily fix the deck just give us some actual support like Spell that searches and activates circle or soul from deck when activated. fusion summon a monster that uses dark magican, using material from deck Field spell that has to be popped before your opponent can target or destory your back row. Once during either player turn when a spellcaster(s) leaves the field apply this effects depending on amount of spellcaster in either graveyard combine 4:Special summon a level 7 or below spellcaster from the grave or deck. They gain the attack of all spellcaster that left the field 7: Banish opponent cards they control equal to the number of spellcaster that left the field 10:Special summon a xyz spellcaster from your extra deck. Attach spellcaster(s) that left the field to it 16:Special summon up to 3 level 7 dark spellcasters from gy, hand and deck A level 4 monster that is a considered a "dark magican" on the field or gy And a decent link monster

The Dark Magician deck needs a lot of draw power and it seems to do well with flood gate / board wipe tech strategy. Another way to speed up the Dark Magician Deck is to combine it with Pendulum Magicians / Supreme King cards. This particular mash up gives you a stronger first turn board presence and allows for more flexible and layered counter strategies. The ebb and flow of the deck can be off putting, but very fun to play.

This is very unrelated, but I was browsing my old collection of Pokemon cards, I found a spheal, and I yelled your name to the heavens. Because i found a Spheal instead of what i was looking for.

I actually really enjoyed dark magician debunked I thought it was funny

Hey, dzeeff! Non-competitive Dark Magician player here. I lurk on your videos frequently. As a non-competitive, I like that your videos show me why my Fun Decks don't really work in tournaments. I played at locals back in the Xyz era, and got whupped most of the time. I still don't very much like that I can't do well with all my favorite archetypes, but videos like yours help me understand why that is. Love the content; please keep doing what you're doing. As for my DM build? I chose to supplement the OG with the Pendulum Magicians. It still loses quite frequently to my buddy's more-meta Blue-Eyes, if you were wondering. I beat him more often with Krawlers.

Congrats on 100k

Konami just hates dark magician the support are average or plain bad compared to blue eyes and eternal soul is just a personal middle finger from konami

Not competitive? You do realise you can use the Dark magician and Time wizard to summon the Dark sage right?

Congratulations on 100k been here for two years

Can you talk about your opinion on the rival ace cards

I think that it’s to slow to get started if the traps were spells that would make them much better still play them but understand it’s not good for comp

But @DZeeff, you're forgetting about the heart of the cards

hey is ingnoble knight of high laundsallyn any good?

I agree 100% with everything you say, I had a dark magician deck with all the mentioned cards, and I faced all the problems you mentioned. I like the deck, because it's fun and the dark magician is nostalgic for me, but that's it, it's just fun. Not a competitive deck I learned the hard way 😭

They say they spend more time to build there deck, but dark magician is very easy to build and play.

You really have to stop caring about what people think.

Can you make a video over the abc and xyz archetype?

Dzeef can you do a video on why no one plays kuribandit? It seems good if you like to discard monsters like in darkworld or if you play a spell and trap heavy deck so why doesn't anyone use it?

Dark magician can't be good cause his hat is stupid.

How good would Chaos Max be if it was searchable with preprep?

Ok I see your point... But what about D/D/D or Fluffals? Are they any good?

Something I'd like to see you talk about is decks that want to go second vs decks that want to go first. The reason I ask is that I play a deck that generally likes to go second. Now I know WHY it wants to go second, and that's not what I'm wondering. I'm just wondering if you know of any evidence that says that decks that want to go first are inherently (or even just generally) better or worse than decks that want to go second. Again, I hope to hear your thoughts on this. I don't expect a full video, but even if you just reply with a comment, I'd really appreciate it.

Can you do an e hero video?

How do you feel about Lightsworns in the current meta?

Im not much of a competitive tcg player, my background is more from duel links. One of my favorite decks from there were aromages and I was wondering how viable they are in the tcg since they have a lot more support there

I personally like dark magician and there a lot of cards to has to do with him but I’d prefer Dark magician Chaos since it’s a bit more reliable and leaves more room for cards instead of cards that has to do with dark magician