Why I haven't been skiing in Gore-Tex lately 

Even more now with the audience he's growing on RU-vid haha but totally deserves it

Ha and I did so bad working at that cell phone shop in high school. Who would’ve thought😅

Good rant though haha. Appreciate you taking the time to watch

Mainstream in terms of redbull & monster media is getting Views. Consciesness and high quality live aparently doesn't get the clicks. In my opinion he's the best contemporary skier. I did extreme skiing myself, grew Up in a steep alpine area, but by far not what and how he does it... he's Just amayzing!!!

Thanks to Tirol! I miss riding there

oh soon man. So soon.

Thanks!

Thanks Chloé!

Those are exactly the kind of conditions you need gore-tex for, agreee🙌

Definitely!

Ive had a raincoat from outdoor research with a polyurethane waterproof membrane, completely wet thru on me over 2 hours of rain :/ so not every one performs as well as gore-tex tho

Happy you were into it!

Yay! Keep shredding Steve and Dewa👊

You sound like fool…

Far too kind!

Exactly!

Thanks!

thats why there are 3 layers of wear...most of time when we ascend we dont use hard shell and walk only in mid layer...using hardshell only when riding

That's a good setup👊

Lyngen is for when I’m around home. I spend anywhere from 2-5 months on the road through the winter :)

i think the issue is that the company's name is gore and their membranes/textiles all share the name goretex. Some of the other fabrics/membranes in the pieces mentioned are made by gore yes, but they aren't the "traditional" waterproof breathable membrane that is typically being referred to when people say "goretex".

Yes. Joel nailed it. Idunno. It was more of a description of my journey from 3L Gore-Tex every day to seeing the potential in other setups too.

I have a pair on order actually. I do think I’ll stick to the old version for most days though! I like them snug and stiff. Seems very good for the longer more toury and less sendy days though

I haven’t noticed any wear. The face fabric is fairly heavy duty. That being said, one of the downsides of the whole pro athlete thing as that I rarely wear gear more than a season, so I don’t get the best feel for the long term durability.

Heyhey, I talk about how I use the atris in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5t3yWmcCk9Q.html

I think you can mix and match, I'm using Tamok pants zipped to a Lofoten jacket, as long as the sizes match somewhat, zippers should be all the same. The thin, finetoothed zipper kind, smaller teeth than the main jacket zipper.

@@JakkeJakobsen I wrote Norrona as well, they said it does not fit. So a quick comment of Niko would be nice, since he is wearing it this way as far as I can tell ;-)

Hi there! They don’t fit 100%, as your zipper won’t zip all the way up, but it still works fairly well. You just have a little flap of excess fabric that hasn’t been zipped all the way up.

@@Nikolai_Schirmer Thanks a lot Niko!

I'm selling my goretex because its too cold

@@ef3345 I like goretex for rainy days during the late summer and mid autumn. Its just not that good as its marketed, especially breathability.

Goretex is windproof. If you feel air coming in could be something in the jacket's design (pockets, zippers...). It could also be just a feeling: if the wind is strong it pushes the jacket on your body, and without layers, you are just feeling the cold. ​ @E F Goretex gives protection from water and wind, 0 insulation properties!

Yes, I would! It’ll last you a decade (my dad’s still in the first stuff I got in 2011), and then if you want more fair weather pieces later you can slowly add those :) If you sign up for the loyalty program (a newsletter basically) you get a 7 year warranty on whatever you buy

Just as a heads up, if you are younger than 18 and still growing multiple cms a year. I would just go with an all in one winterjacket. They are just so much cheaper an it would be a shame if you would outgrow your 500.- goretex setup after two seasons. Same goes for skis, if you use them for less than 5 weeks a year, I would just rent them.

Don’t know actually. This is just an AirBnB haha. Thanks!

Hi there, I’m 187 and prefer XL in the shells and L in everything else

I think I have done a poor job of communicating here :) I too use wool as a baselayer, not a shell

One to do it all? Maybe Falketind as a jacket (my favorite) and Lyngen pants? I came back from the swiss alps yesterday and out of 25 days of ski touring, climbing and general alpinism i used my Lofoten set 2 out of 25 days. The rest i used Falketind GTX jacket, falketind down jacket, and Fjørå Flex1 pants. The main reason i went with that setup was the practicality when wearing climbing harness, ropes and other gear having clothes that sits a bit closer to the body is a big plus in my mind, have to add that weather was rather sunny and dri as well Fjørå is not windproof nor waterproof just chill to wear doesn´t really fit over the boots either but i think Lyngen pants would be perfect. Lofoten series (had it for 7 years) is great when ski touring and freeriding but not my favorite when you add alpinism on top. But i guess that's a preference thingy, and that Nikolai probably has some good advices on the topic

Åsmund has good input! But yeah, if you want the most versatile jacket don’t get the insulated version. You’ll regret it in warmer temps. And you can always add a layer beneath your shell when it’s colder.

Think he answered that somewhere else. I think NO because they had failed him multiple times. Or something

@@carlerikkopseng7172 Thank you!

I got one now, and wear it now and then. Depending on the trip :-)

Better looking at it than looking for it.

I don’t know the accurate numbers, but from what I’ve been told the margin on the high end gore-tex and similar aren’t that good actually. Compared to what you’ll find in fashion (jeans/t-shirts/..). There’s of course a huge difference in what a Norwegian worker and a Chinese worker is paid, and that’s a big part of the reason manufacturing isn’t done here. I don’t think the way the world works like that is super cool. Norrøna does third party checks on all production though, to make sure they have certain workplace standards in place.

​@@Nikolai_Schirmer Thanks Nikolai, I appreciate the response. I can imagine a significant chunk goes back into the costs of design and creating products in the first place. I can also imagine that if you try to create top end technical clothing, the choice is either mass production in Asia, or not making products at all, particularly if the margins are so low and you still have to compete. It does seem like the outdoor industry is poor considering the environment they operate in. If you take a look at goodonyou.eco it rates companies including major outdoor wear. Some do well in 'planet' and 'animals', but all are poor in 'people', i.e. paying a fair wage. Patagonia and event TNF have better tracking than Norrona, but all need to do better, as you mentioned. I'm just happy you're supporting givedirectly, I feel like this and your partnerships with low carbon initiatives might be offsetting some of the damage caused by the companies we rely on to actually venture into the mountains in the first place. Thanks again Nikolai.

Hey man! I would check out the Norrøna Falketind collection. It works great for all activities year round. Whiteout, which is a sub-brand of Norrøna, is also great for that purpose. It's a little cheaper because of a different business model, but the same quality.

@@Nikolai_Schirmer thank you!

Snow falling on you will melt and sip through, even if it's below 0C.

Early season, late season, lower lattitude coastal mountains with 0 to -5 snow melting as it hits you, lower mountain raining... I spent my early years on snow SOAKED.

It's a little small. Works though! I'm in a Hyunday Kona now. It's still a little small, but works for 3-4 skiers on a day trip with the roof box.

For rando ville jeg gått for lyngen🙌 om du går mest på feller, og gjør mindre alpinisme-missions mdd klyving på stein. Takk!

They're called verts. Not sure if that's the brand Nikolai uses, but you'll find similar ones on google.

I've used the verts (but lost them now sadly). They're not on the market yet, but this season I've been on the auftriib. half the weight and they have crampons.

Tentacle sync, and tascam dr-10l. We record pretty much everything

You’re right :) Bad language use from me. It’s a material with holes in it.

It is 100% happening.

It's a swiss brand called "Auftriib". But they are not for sale yet but the owner is giving some of them to athletes and video producers to gain the viewers attention :)

@@seblukasser thnx for replay, a saw them only in his videos and didnt have clue what they are :D

Correct!

@@Nikolai_Schirmer thanx for replay!

think it will ruin the warranty

Its to prevent snow coming in youre pants when plowing through deep snow.. if you need mre breathability, try opening youre pockets ad even the front zipper.

I’d go for it if you want more venting :)

You are 100% correct

I get into it a little bit here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5t3yWmcCk9Q.html

Hi there, I’m wearing XL and I’m 187 86kg

Ski tour more?

@@vitaminb4869 I agree that is one solution. Before ski touring this winter, I was running 100K plus per month and working an active job. I was wondering if Nikolai has a pre-winter training regime. To add in his last video, he did mention that the skier with long hair will go to the gym to train his muscles...

@@lifeinvader2039 no one really trains for "ski touring". You can run as much as you want, but different sports usually use a different set of muscles that don't always carry over from one to another. It's normal to be extra sore after the first few times doing a new activity or workout/exercise.

@@vitaminb4869 Ok thanks.

Well during running you are fairly light because your shoes are lighter than skis and you do not have to carry heavy equipment. Therefore running is good for ascending on skis but the downhill is more strength dependent because there are greater forces occuring in shorter time . You should include some strength training. Basic squats ( and squat variations) and nordic curls will do the trick.

i think the issue is that the company's name is gore and their membranes/textiles all share the name goretex. Some of the other fabrics/membranes in the pieces mentioned are made by gore yes, but they aren't the "traditional" waterproof breathable membrane that is typically being referred to when people say "goretex".

They’re: auftriib.com

All DWRs are not the same. You’re concerned about the PFCs right? Gore eliminated all of the toxic PFCs from their DWR many years ago. After which the products were actually less waterproof for a while, before they were able to develop new ones that did the same job without the harm PFCs cause. Or is there a different part of the DWR you mean?

@@Nikolai_Schirmer Unfortunately, we are finding that no PFC is non-toxic (not just PFOA/PFOS) (a quick google scholar search will reveal this and I'm currently starting a research project in this area). Gore does produce some non-PFC DWR textiles, so they are on the right path! I did the technology survey for a Patagonia case competition on DWRs a few years ago and it is great to see how much the industry has been exploring alternative DWR chemistry. There was nothing commercially available even 5 years ago! The part that holds up many companies moving away from PFCs is the oil repellency and that consumers have to do a bit more work to keep their garments waterproof. The Outdoor Research non-PFC goretex jacket I have requires periodic dryer time to refresh the waterproof qualities. A small price to pay for a non-PFC DWR in my opinion, but OR has been terrible at communicating this to their customers!

I thought DWR makes the fabric hydrorepellent, but even without it goretex would still be waterproof. Am I wrong? I've seen my shell without DWR, wet outside, dry inside.

I wear wool underwear under, and then I have down knickers I put on if I’m camping or staying still somewhere

That is hard. A baselayer with a windbreaker up top has done the trick for me

Like niokolai, I've found a windbreaker is a crucial piece in the winter! Most days, even down to -15C I'm touring in a base layer + windbreaker or a fleece + windbreaker.

Yes!

Yeah or I mean that kind of quality will cost you about that no matter what brand you go for (arcteryx, patagonia, high end north face). You have a 7 year warranty and a lifetime of repairs, so it’s a long term investment. I meet people running around the mountain in 90s Norrøna gear still.

@@Nikolai_Schirmer If it's good enough for you, it's good enough for me. Love the channel, you are living the dream my man.

@@irishman3375 thanks!

Hi there Patrick, Actually plenty of brands are doing better than Patagonia in that area, they’re just not as good at the marketing. Norrøna ranks above them for example on the textile exchange leaderboards for use of earth friendly materials. Lots of momentum in the outerwear category. The hardware side is moving a bit slower from what I can tell. I’m of course sponsored by Norrøna snd have been for a decade, so I know their story the best, but yeah! I’m hopeful seeing the changes all over the industry

I think Gore-Tex Pro still beats Futurelight in every category…

@@DavidGoliath1 except breathability which is the most important category for high output activities where you aren't going to be rained on like skiing. goretex infinium is much better than pro for skiing

Pertex is slightly less breathable than the best Gore-Tex laminates (more breathable than the old and lower end stuff) while having less waterproofing. It is also heavier than shake-dry, its primary competitor. It is primarily good if you want a less expensive alternative to high end Gore-Tex products.

I have no experience with Pertex. Thanks for sharing Ruff!

Lofoten mid weight merino: www.norrona.com/nb-NO/produkter/lofoten/lofoten-mid-weight-merino-sokker-lange/?color=1280&size=34-36&countryCode=NO&gclid=Cj0KCQiAs5eCBhCBARIsAEhk4r5oUPU_sk5lkbToYWW_azDs8UZu78SQCFvfo1ebjzFHfzOBq1fbBK4aArvCEALw_wcB

The textile industry is super dirty (second only behind oil I think), and Brad and the rest of the team at Norrøna are working really hard at making it less so

@@Nikolai_Schirmer the easiest way for you to make change would be to not promote anything with PFCs.

You sir are 100% correct

No quality outerwear brand designed to fit and work well for life in the outdoors will be. They spend millions on research and development and design of their products, from fabric technology, to design and fit, eco friendly manufacturing, it all costs a ton. That being said, this level of quality usually comes with some sort of guarantee, and a lot of the products if maintained properly will last 10 years or more, unlike most fashionable clothing.

@@acadiamusic514 but it is a little bit to much money for me to use on outdoor clotes you can buy a jacket for under 100 usd and a Lofoten jacket from norrona costs 800+ usd

Yep yep. Not sure how that footprint compares to synthetics.

@@Nikolai_Schirmer Toxic chemicals are often used to preserve wool, and these chemicals often pollute the waterways, affecting communities living along the banks. Tbh I have no idea what's worse, I just don't like the idea of using animals for pleasure...