Why I Haven't Stopped BUYING Games Workshop Stuff... YET 

Completely agree. Videos like this are why I love the channel: well iterated, not bombastic, no clickbait. Keep up the great work, Uncle Atom!

I haven't done a hard boycott of gw, it's just that when I look for models I can usually find what I want somewhere else for cheaper. My budget is tight, and mostly playing miniature agnostic games means I can forego gw unless they put out something I really, really like.

"The Corporation is not your friend" is a great line and one that as a consumer is forgotten. The Corporation is their to provide an organization to manage the selling and finances of the provision of a product. Their goal is to get a consumer to buy more for the companies interests. That is why there is a marketing department to put a spin on what is going on behind the scenes. Ultimately its a matter of not relying on a Corporation to provide what you want in a hobby. Its setting up your hobby in a fashion that does not require the Corporation to make any specific moves.

For me, the biggest threat to GW is that their games are not accessible to new Hobbyists. Too complicated, too many rules dispatched in many expensive books. The only simple game remaining is Warcry, and I am afraid of the next release.

I totally agreed with you about kill team at first, but im surprised that after a few games and a better understanding of how it all runs together I actually enjoyed the rules way more than kill team 1. that said I still do really miss the customization

I have to begrudgingly agree regarding the Washes. While they are expensive they still do their job. I buy my models second hand though. That being said, I have learned to love Oil Washes, yeah you work with very harsh chemicals to thin them. But the results are undeniably better than my go to Washes. Still GW prices are absurd, and I am dialing back my Warhammer purchases at least not directly to GW. I am diving into other mini games that aren't Warhammer, it's a tough decision but sometimes you have to let go of things you care about just to make a statement. I don't approve of GW's decisions as of late.

A very sensible and sober take. As consumers, we must beware of choosing sides and fighting the companies' battles for them. Games Workshop has enjoyed a hegemony over the hobby for nearly four decades now, but the tide is shifting. Their competitors are slowly but surely growing, and that is only a good thing for us hobbyists, because competition favors the consumer. There is no need for hobbyists to declare their allegiance, but instead they should enjoy the wealth of options at their fingertips, picking and choosing whatever games, models and supplies they find interesting, GW or otherwise. The label on the packaging doesn't actually mean anything, it's just marketing. It's the enjoyment at the table that matters.

You should do a video on picking minis that are fun to paint. Been doing that exclusively lately, totally changed my flow on things. Used to despise the hobby lol, now it's great.

I'm glad you did this video (actually, almost every video of yours I find useful/entertaining/enjoyable). I understand the frustrations others have (I have many of them myself)... I think that that and the fact you've been bringing up so many other companies (game-wise) is why they ask you. Many either having forgotten your hobby hero purpose of trying to help people get into the hobby... not GW. But you also recognize that GW is a major entry point. I appreciate that you let us know what you like and don't like about GW, their games, their paints and sculpts. I got into GW because I had heard of them as a non-tabletop gamer (of any type), had, luckily, good experiences at the GW stores I went to. But... after the last 2 years of getting into the hobby (your videos SERIOUSLY kept me motivated and in my right mind for it) and breaking out to try models from other companies... GW consistently puts out sculpts that grab my eye and I find fun to assemble, a few exceptions apply.

GW is the reason I got into the hobby back in the late 90s. Mainly, it was the lore/background, then the miniatures, then the distant promise of actually learning the rules and playing a game one day (I still haven't played a full game, 20+ years later...). I think it's a smart move on your part to keep covering GW, and I really appreciate your honest opinions about their products. I think they're going to be increasingly challenged in the miniature marketplace going forward, though, with the meteoric rise of 3D printing. People simply aren't going to be willing to part with $50 (or more) for a unit of five models, when they can 3D print some very respectable alternatives for a fraction of the cost. If GW are to survive going forward (and I really hope they do) then they need to be more responsive to fan feedback. For example, I love their regular acrylic paint line, but those pots are such an awful design that I now buy from other companies who use dropper bottles instead. And don't get me started on the constant rule changes, which make the codex or army book you just bought instantly obsolete. That stuff drives me nuts!

As much as Games Workshop May grab the attention of people, I feel like it does a lot to scare people away from the hobby too. I know a decent number of people who think that the hobby is incredibly overpriced just because of Games Workshop, so I have to reintroduce them to other companies. I'm okay with buying less and less from them because in my experience it makes the hobby more accessible

For the most part I have to agree (apart from the 'keeping up with GW' stuff, because I don't have a YT channel :D). Their non-standard paints/washes are nice (don't get me started how much I hate the base/layer paints system), their models, for the most part, are very cool, though honestly I think some of the character stuff overly complicated and overwrought. The pricing model is a bit annoying though, a single monopose (with limited options) plastic Commissar costs half as much as an entire multipart Mark III Space Marine squad... For the most part if I want a character model it's usually cheaper to kitbash one than it is to buy that specific model.

Those necromunda markets were an instant buy for my Star Wars Legion tatooine board. I've probably bought 90% of the necromunda for use in other games! I'm not buying as blindly as I was a few years back.

I still cannot wrap my head around where people get the games workshop make the highest quality models idea from. Years ago people would say the same thing and I could not understand how anyone even moderately invested in the miniature space would be able to completely ignore the terrible flaws in GW sculpts. Coming back from a long hiatus I gave GW the benefit of the doubt when people were saying how great the quality is but they unfortunately still have the same issues I had with the sculpts 10 years ago. The drafting angles and complete lack of problem solving in the sprue layout that often results in any detail along a certain plane of a sculpt is completely deleted is still unfortunately there. If what people actually mean is the art style I can agree and maybe it is just miscommunication but art style =/= quality or detail.

For as long as I have been gaming and hobbying, there have always been people who have felt the need to dump on GW for whatever reason, warranted or not, at every opportunity. They'll always tell you how much happier they are "boycotting" GW blah blah blah... and I've always asked myself who they were trying to convince. Play and buy what you like, GW or not.

Don't worry, Atom, we ALL get a bum (or bummer) model(s). For me, it was the Rogue Psykers from BSF. I filed and shaved and couldn't get them to fit flush in their pauldrons, a huge gap on each side. Finally just slathered the pauldrons in Liquid Green Stuff until the gaps were (mostly) filled, then painted them a dark metallic color that just absorbs a lot of light to (hopefully) take most of the attention away from the shoulder area. (This was before I learned of those wondrous homemade sprue glue.😆)

Thank you so much for everything you do for the community, Uncle Atom, oh mighty slayer of Krakalaka-Dingdongs! 😅 You presented excellent and relatable statements in this video. I am looking forward to seeing you contrast contrast paints. 😎👍 Dudes and dudettes be like: "I'll only ever buy from the G-Workshop again, if it snows in hell!" "What about rain in hell?" "Reign in Hell is an awesome game! Everyone and their mother should buy and play it!" 😁👍

I’m actually not a fan of gw models. The plastic is great, great detail level. But I find the bulk of their sculpts boring by large. To me they look too much like they are posing for a photo.

Certainly the costs rising prettily steadily since 1998 hasn't helped GW. It does make sense with the advances in technology etc but what used to cost $15 is now equivalently $98. That being said I am grateful for GW for getting me into the hobby at all in my youth. But even with my pull away from them I still use their shades etc also.

Most of us are in the same position for all GW’s faults they do produce some excellent stuff. I mostly buy from eBay but I’ll still buy directly from GW not everything they sell is a ripoff. I just purchased the “Battle in Balin’s Tomb”board game and am very pleased with it. I’d advise anyone to just be selective with your GW purchases

I like a variety of miniatures from different companies, but I do like that gw still make their miniatures in the UK. I have nothing against China or anywhere else for that matter, but I like that not everything is being outsourced to cheap labour and seeing jobs and skills being lost. I am prepared to pay a bit more to promote jobs and industry domestically. Most of their stuff is very good quality to be fair. I don't like everything they do, but generally it's of a very high standard.

Innsmouth! Wonder if Uncle Atom ever spent a night in the Gillman House? On another note... I have to agree that GWs models are nice, but sometimes that $40 price for one model is laughable. BUT that being said they have nice sets that I think are worth it like Blood Bowl, Warcry, and Necromunda. The new Outcasts gang set for Necromunda looks really cool and I can honestly see myself using it for many other games I own like Stargrave or This Is Not A Test. Plus GW tends to pack their sets with lots of options and for kitbashers out there that means you'll always have some usable bits to trick out a kitbash later on down the road.

Great video. My involvement in the hobby now boils down to watching your videos. It’s how I can vicariously enjoy a hobby I literally don’t have time for. I bought Nightvault because I thought Thorns of the Briar Queen were such amazing models. It’s sitting unopened on my shelf. I think there have been two new editions of that game since. Maybe one day I’ll find time to paint them. In the meantime I’ll continue following your channel and imaging I’m a war gamer.

The thing about minis games is that there are so, SO many of them out there and almost all of them have had more care and thought put into their rules then GW really has put into any game that isn’t necromunda or blood bowl. Been playing tabletop games since I was about 5 and 30 years later I just don’t understand why folks are willing to put up with their awful communication and terrible release cycle. It’s a shame because I like the worlds and they ARE one of the companies still putting out tabletop games where narrative has a good spotlight. What can ya do I guess.

As always - the what is right fro you might not always be right for others - pick the parts of anything that work best and enjoy :D Thanks Uncle Atom

Oil washes have totally stolen the show for me these last couple of weeks, you have got to try them if you haven't yet. Get yourself a high quality ivory black and a burnt umber to mix in and it absolutely blows agrax and nuln out of the water. The grim dankness is strong with oils.

yeah, i'm Super happy with Warcry, i've been playing it with my friend for a while now, and probably the main feature of the game that both me and by friend like is the fact there is only 3 books for the factions, choas, destruction, and order. this allows us to whenever we feel like, just play a different faction! because i 3D print a lot, it's very easy to grab some fantasy models, which there are a lot of proxies for AOS, I can print off a new army, have i painted, and ready to go by the end of a weekend.

Uncle Atom - anyone who accuses you of being a shill has never really watched your channel. Thank you for your content and contributions to the hobby.

I've had to stop buying from GW because of my health and financial situation, not going to stop me playing with my 2k point army. Keep up the great work 😃

You know I don't buy their paints or models but I have before. I definitely understand that you a RU-vidr and Twitch painter need to keep doing GW models because that's what gets the views. I can't lie I really want contrast paint but I'm relearning how to paint and I don't want to add contrast paints yet.

The karkadrak is most definitely one of the more difficult models I have had to put together. But I managed to make it work, and I'm looking forward to making him not gray anymore

You make a great point that you owe a company, Any company nothing and vice versa . However, if they produce things that you like at a reasonable price then you buy them. That’s it, nice and simple.

Some people can't help themselves and they need their fix..... no matter how many times the dealer pisses on their head. P..s. Warcry is probably the best skirmish game in GW's current lineup. I'm still waiting for Battlefleet Gothic., but after seeing how expensive Adeptus Titanicus was...

On the quality of their models, I agree for the -most- part and your bit on the Carin Wraiths reminded me of the horror that was building Lady Olynder. I find alot of their bigger models are a bit overdesigned and a pain to build, but to be fair they are older models usually. For bigger center pieces I'd love to see more push fit like that Killa Boss. One of my favorites and I don't even play kruleboyz. Warcry/Frostgrave are my favorite games and that got me into AOS with my buds and its been fun. I really just hope they don't ruin it and do what they did to Kill Team. I'd really like to see some of thr neglected armies get a boost. I sorta wish they'd have a come to their senses with some of their pricing, I know that's a dead horse, I just think they have to balance their value for some of their boxes. The disparity is nuts.

I'm in a similar position to you. I used to get lots of things from them, but i no longer even play their games. Still, i'm in for the models, so i'm still getting Necron stuff from them once in a while because i love my undead robot egyptians. But i don't feel compelled to keep choosing them, i only get some individual stuff because i like it, but it's been happening less and less.

New KT is best what GW released in many years. Regarding paints new Army Painter line of paints similar to Contrasts looks very interesting.

Ok, so I listen to You as a podcast while I'm working. And imagine how funny it was, when I've burst into laughter in the middle of my workshop when I've heard "krakalakadingdong". Thanks, Uncle, everyone looks at me funny now!

Being a GW fan feels like being in an abusive relationship - the only way to preserve your sanity is to walk away and go no contact. =| After the whole animator/content creator's legal debacle and the increasingly fan hostile marketing schemes, I've felt I had to scale down my spending on GW products, even though I like models. I mean, if we continue to enable their behavior by rewarding them with money, they won't change and the only way to send a message is to vote with our wallets, so yeah... I have absolutely no hope that it'll work, but at least I don't feel complicit in their shitty practices.

Looking forward to your compare of Contrast and Speed paints.

There are so many companies that deserve support besides Games Workshop . I haven't bought a GW product in years .

Chastlist with the new Battle tech and Battlefront with the new WW3 Team yankee are with in 10% the detail of GW but much cheaper... So to me a much better vaule... Which Battletech is what got me into table top lore, Warhammer 40K and their video games and Mini Wargaming like no one plays Battletech really on youtube not beck then now people are like Alpha strike do but still not alot... Also Shadow Run lore and the RPG show that started roll4it... So to me GW is not the best in lore, Barely in quality and alomst never in price. But I can see why you like them and as you've said not your only thing... Still can't really under stand how GW can over price all of there stuff so much though...

Personally, Its not just the models for me. There are tons of other companies out there making top notch models and Resin printing is now at the point where its quality is as good as GW aside from being made out of resin. However, I enjoy the background and the story of the GW models and when I am painting something from a story that I like, I imagine the model in the story and that helps me put more into my painting. Earlier this year I painted some non-GW models for someone else on commission. The models were fine. I did a good job on them and the client was happy. I hated the process. I felt like I was just going through the motions and when I was done, I didn't feel attached to the models despite spending so much time on them. Maybe it was because the models weren't mine, but maybe it was because I had no connection to the story behind the models.

Thanks for another interesting video. I really like that Fightin' Fishmen t-shirt.

I loved this video. For me, while I have been a bit dissatisfied with a lot of what GW has been doing of late (I do still enjoy AoS and what used to be called Specialist games), to me nowadays, a model is a model. if I like it, and I can fit it into one of the armies/factions/whatever I play in a given game (or can make something up to fit them in!) then I'll buy it. I use GW models in other games, and vice versa. No need to be tied to a company for anything. I'll use tools and paints I like from everyone and if I can make a cool thing smooshing together GW, 3rd party and 3d printed to order parts then I've got a cool toy to play with.

For odorless resin use Matter Hackers MH Build Series - 3D Printer Resin. It's epoxy free. You still should vent it for safety (I have mine in an outdoor attachment to the house and run a fan to blow it out the open window), but it doesn't smell bad AT ALL. It's amazing stuff. But is a pain to get to stick to the build plate. You need major texture for the plate. I hope someday they can change their formula just a bit to overcome this without sacrificing the odor-free part. But in terms of being odor-free the stuff is EXCELLENT. I can't use ANY other brand because the epoxy DESTROYS me at first whiff. But the matter hackers stuff is right as rain. No problems with my breathing or with the odors at all.

The only thing i've bought from GW since they killed Fantasy, has been my recent acquisition of Necromunda all of Necromunda (it's what got me in to the hobby to begin with in the first place back in '96) and paint, have no intention of buying anything else from GW, there are tons of other miniature companies that make miniatures of equal quality, they're just less well known.

GW shades are basically liquid talent. I don't think I'll ever stop using them either, even if I never buy another pot of regular paint again. Nuln Oil and Angrax Earthshade are basically staples of every hobby painter's arsenal.

I love Basilicanum Grey contrast from citadel. It’s replaced nuln to an extent and probably the last twenty models or so has featured it HEAVILY. I definitely couldn’t go without it going forward in this hobby. Anyway just wanted to put that out there

Hello from Japan. I love watching your videos. Great inspiration. You really seem to love skirmish games and mention several throughout your videos and Every Other Sunday shows but I rarely hear you mention Necromunda. Would be really interested in hearing your thoughts on that game vs. say Warcry or Kill Team. They all seem similar in size.

I do stopped buying GW stuff. I'll still buy some GW miniatures, sure, they're really good but I'll buy them second hand, not new. I'll stick with Vallejo and Green Stuff World because they're good quality and from my country. I can't wait to replace my contrast paints with Army Painter Speedpaints. About rulesets and books... I can't stand the GW politics about them, I'll not swap my books every X month, there're many agnostic games out there way better.

Loving the t-shirt!

I've personally stopped buying models and books from GW entirely. I do still buy Citadel products however, as I think they're actually high quality products, and I'm still giving them less money than if I buy models.

If you have the time to read this comment, then you have the time to go like and comment to appease the almighty algorithm 😁👍🏼❤️

I've tried some GW board games but all of them got bad rulles and wanted to take your money away. After plating different games like Malifaux, Infinity, Bolt action, Battletech and so on I cant understand why are all those people buying GW stuff. There are no game designers - there are only sales managers. Great thing that GW done are at old future - Mordheim, Blood Bowl and bunch of that 15-20+ years outdated games. But now they are worried only about one thing - your wallet. So nope, thanks, I will go and play Battletech with friends.

Just south of the cheddar curtain, I'd be game for some combat patrol....were around

how ironic, I am literally putting together a Chaos lord on Karkadrak, and just swore a bit -- then you said you HATED putting him together... i fee ya

This is basically the boat I'm in with gw as well. Time was, anything not gw was just not as good. Now? Not only are gw kits less repeatable in terms of the mono posing, and not only sre they an order of magnitude more expensive....the alternatives in the 3d printing space can hack it with them in terms of quality. And sometimes? Even if gws sculpts edge them out a little bit just the fact of variety means I won't be buying exclusively gw. My first five Blood Knights for my new soul blight army will be the new gw sculpts. The next 5 will be 3d printed- I've got some gorgeous multi part sculpts from Highlands Minis with an old school vibe, and some from Fleshcraft that are deliciously customizable.

I love the guilliman flesh contrast makes skin look so good.

How dare you have your own agency and collect the models you want 😏

It is good to throw public commentary out there like "I will not spend $40 on a 28mm model" and if there is a cheaper product out there you will buy that (very soon with Army Painter speed paint I am rather excited about) it may get them to adjust their pricing in a competitive market (maybe). The comment on 3D printing is a valid thing to mention, like you may want to supplement the Necromunda market with a futuristic cargo container food-stand I have seen out there. 40k is attractive with their huge universes they create. Withdrawing everything including fan-art behind a paywall could swiftly remove the one main advantage they have in the market. Almost all of their free advertising is gone which is a shame since mostly bitterness toward them is outside of Warhammer+. Even the new product reviews in RU-vid is drying up somewhat due to the various agreements and worries of GW interfering with content providers. I hope they come to their senses at some point. You carry on as you do, we all go where we think product is the most "shiny" and you stated your preferences rather clearly.

I have a massive WHFB collection (that is now a massive 9th age collection). I used to think GW had the absolute best models on the planet, but with the advent of 3d printing there are so many high quality, unique, models on the market that I can no longer justify the massive cost difference of GW. Plus they can't write a decent ruleset to save their life.

Ha, I fell into the same habit. I have quite a few armies for AoS and 40k.... but all I'm really playing now is Adeptus Titanicus and (every once in a blue moon) Warcry. Evolved my hobbying to include 3d printing. Adding tons of custom bits, terrain, etc. But I've just fallen out of love with their main games.

I'm in a very similar boat. Aside from not having a RU-vid channel and actually liking a huge amount of their paints, I've definitely slowed down on buying stuff from GW, but I don't think I'll ever completely stop. Their plastics are just too great and Necromunda will always hold a place in my heart. I've branched out a bit in terms of paint brands, but I've still got a serious appreciation for leadbelcher and the "shades triumvirate" 😂

People need to stop getting angry at content creators having an opinion, it's childish

I'm locked to GW cause of the lore, but on the actual buying models & paints side I tend to buy a boxset & paints every other year or so and tend to just develop skirmish size armies anyways, cause it feels right to me.

I agree - the transparent paints are great and the models too. Their washes are top notch, but since trying oil I'm never going to touch a pot of agrax or nuln oil again...

The only thing I still buy from GW anymore are the books. I just love them too much to stop though I’ve taken a hiatus in light of recent events. everything else I buy from third party’s where I can. Though I understand the appeal for the models and respect that people still want to just enjoy the hobby independently I’m one of those fan animation nuts and have joined the boycott going on until GW gets it’s very scattered crap together. The one thing I find hard to forgive above everything else is that GW has ruined the lively hood of many of my favorite Warhammer creators.

I'm not a tabletop gamer per se. I like to paint and collect the models. That's my jam! I have painted models from different companies but GW is still my favorite.

I agree totally on the point about Citadel Paints - I rely almost exclusively on Vallejo for the main (and their airbrush metallics, so thanks again for that little tip) colours. But I find that Citadel have more reliable shades and washes than companies like Army Painter, mainly because the former are matt and the latter always seem to be satin in finish.

Oil paints, 3d printers, matte medium to make contrast and washes. one page rules and osprey games for rules

I agree with most everything stated in the video. GW makes great models Buuut $40 USD for a single plastic 28mm figure as is becoming standard is a bit ridiculous. After initial manufacturing of the model they have what like maybee $.05 cents USD in the plastic and maybee another $ .50 cents in packaging. There are alot of other companies out there selling their models some are the same quality for around $ 10 - $ 15 USD which seems a reasonable price. The whole issue is with the official GW tournaments and their rules that you can only use their stuff. This prohibits alot of other great models from being used. I can remember in the early 1990's when I started you could mostly " Run what you brung " as their was not a very large selection of vehicles and such. So their was alot of substitution and scratch built creations being used and it did NOT matter as long as they were played by the rules. Example in the early days there were almost no Titan models and what few there were cost alot. So since ( I think it was Revell if I remember right) there were Robotec models that were almost the same exact scale they were substituted as being fairly inexpensive at that time. Everyone still had a good time. Which is the whole point of a wargame " Hobby " not the who can out spend the other guy.

I play older GW games and generally collect/paint older GW minis or use 3rd party minis these days. Gave up on new GW models (mostly) and games a few years ago - my budget is tiny (£50pcm) and there's too much nickel and diming going on, book for this, book for that etc. At least their older stuff is set in stone, and mostly available relatively inexpensively if you know where to look. I do like their paint "system" though - I started moving to Vallejo but struggle with matching colours to GW and working out which to use for highlights, so I mostly stick with GW paints...

About a year ago I stumbled across a battle report of ...someone playing WH40K and I was very interested looked into it and was set back by the prices...that and the fact that as a person interested in getting into the game I have to sacrifice a virgin to learn ANYTHING about it, and let me tell you, finding virgins nowadays is harder than finding a good deal from GW! AND I heard they are going to raise the sacrifice requirement to a "fair" virgin sometime in early-mid '22! Anyway, about 3 months ago i begrudgingly bought the elite edition start collecting box and just last night finished painting the last model. Although I am going to repaint several of them, I am not going further down the GW road. My other hobbies are bass fishing and RC trail trucks, so I'm not adverse to paying to play.But I just can't back these people and I found one page rules, through you I think!, and I will spend my $ elsewhere.

Honestly, warcry and reign in hell are my go to mini games right now

Corvus Cabal are the most annoying thing I have ever built. Dont feel bad about them being a pain.

11:38 The Karen Wraith wants to see the manager! 😅

Wargames Atlantic do some great minis for just about every system

I just got an Anycubic Photon Mono two weeks ago. I can't say I won't ever buy from GW again, but Maaaaaaan.... I love printing models and painting them with my 3D printer. Once you get yours set up I think you will love it. (10$ subscription to a creator like Artisan's Guild, Archvillan Games, or Titan Forge and you will eventually pay for your printer in savings over buying GW's plastic stuff.)

What helps here is that Games workshop is barely present in this country. What little is here is hard to find and overpriced. Vallejo paints are generally always available, in stock and reasonably priced. Miniatures, you're going to end up importing on sale stuff from the US for the most part. Could go for some reasonably priced earthshade though.

I feel vindicated by your difficulty to the Karkadrak Chaos Lord. I lost blood to that model trying to make the pieces snap together.

40K got me into the hobby but been trying more new stuff for years. Don't actually like anyone I played 40K with in the local area because that "Space Marines are the good guys!" mentality is paired with "fascism isn't all bad..." more often then most like to admit. But once things are more back to normal and I can game again, it'll be more stuff like Infinity or other low model count games. My box of hundreds of Orks will always be special to me, but I need to focus games that are lighter to carry around and quicker to play.

When I think of not supporting GW, I tend to think along the lines of never buying directly from the online store or thier retail stores. I never buy thier paints or accessories. If a kit interests me, I will buy it from a local store at a discount or online at discount. But I refuse to play thier games.

I don't think theres anything wrong with most GW products but I have bought the majority of my models recently second hand or in boxsets with a significant saving, when the market is saturated with second hand models for 1/3rd the price of new I'm buying second hand everytime.

Yep I'm down to the holy trinity and that's about it keen to hear your impression on contrast versus speed

The benefit of my pile of shame is that I don't need to shop for new models and try out new games! I'm being facetious of course, I'd actually love to try out new games, and I enjoy looking at alternate model lines, but as a parent with a full time job I have a very finite amount of time to play. My friends and I play GW games because its what we already own and what we've been enjoying. I've only recently (about a year ago now) gotten back into the hobby and previously I only played for a few months several years ago so while I can see why entrenched players get upset with GW it was still the easiest widest known option to get into when I got back in and I've really enjoyed the gameplay, granted my buddies and I play mostly crusade and mostly loose rules but I have to assume there's a lot of us out there and that seems to be be what GW is targeting with a lot of their new advertising and company direction. It works clearly or I wouldn't be here now talking about it. So I do feel bad for entrenched players (as an old magic the gathering player I get it) but I also feel like getting in as an adult in my late 30's almost 40's I care more about having fun with it 4 hours a week because that's all I have and less about what insane things the company is doing. Edit: I'm not saying it's smart to do that, just that's what I've been doing.

I'm honestly glad there's so much more hobby, if for no other reason than competition being healthy. I got into it a few months ago because I've loved the setting of Warhammer since I was a kid, so GW has really been all I've been looking at by default. I have shopped around and looked at other miniature games, but as a fan of Sisters of Battle and (recent) Drukhari stuff, GW sculpts have been my go-to, which can be crushing in the money department. On the other hand, a lot of third party stuff tends to be hyper sexualized for both of those factions and that's not my jam. But again, competition is super healthy, and I've been eyeing the Spire models from Conquest: Last Argument of Kings covetously. Hopefully more companies gain traction in this business so GW has to step their game up.

Their figure holder was like the best contribution to the paint side of the hobby. I am surprised they have not partnered with an airbrush company to make a kit. Guess brushes and pots are high margin and they don't want to cannibalize that.

Mantics new deadzone terrain has awnings and food markets.

When you play ME SBG there aren't a lot of alternatives. There are some, but not many.

Simply put, I just prefer the aesthetic of gw's older stuff. Sure, some of it is derpy... but those are the models I started with. My skills aren't good enough to paint many of the newer models... so I buy nearly everything secondhand. It's not even the pricing structure that's pushed me out. It's the design. I'd rather sit at a table and play a game of 3rd edition 40k (or gorkamorka) than the crap they put out now.

I know this is an older video but I have recently found your channel and subscribed. I am a returning painter / hobbyist my break has been around 30 years. My last models were lead to give you an idea. I love the return to painting and really enjoy your videos. The humor & the actual help is enjoyable and helpful. I’m hooked both for the channel and the hobby. Thanks

What he didn’t say: everything he buys he can use as a tax write off since he posts it or reviews it on the channel. So yes he’s paying for it, but after taxes and income revenue from his channel is all calculated, he pays WAY less than we do. Edit after the reply: I must give credit to where credit is due. Although I disagree that we should be actively expanding our armies while ,some would say, Games Workshop is taking advantage of its consumers with its monopoly on Warhammer and other tabletop games. I now, more than ever, support Tabletop Minions integrity and honesty in his reviews and videos.

The necromunda's market is quality

Well said uncle Atom...well done!!!👍👍👍

You can get odorless resin.

I did decide that when I eventually buy cultists for my csm collection, I'm going for other heroic scale infantry instead (looking at Bolt Action right now, they have those big 40 guys plastic infantry for Winter Sovjets that look relly cool). I love warcry too. I'm kinda substituting warcry with new Kill Team though. I looked into one page rules, but they're leaning on the same mechanica s old kt, and I don't like that style of rules. I like how new kt went closer to warcry, and the fact is that Wahapedia isn't covering Warcry as of yet, so I don't have access to Warcry while I do have access to Kill Team. I'd love to find another game to get invested in, but the fact is that with no non-gw, non-hasboro games gets participants. I either play Warhammer, Magic, and Dungeons and Dragons, or I sit at home being disappointed that I nobody showed up for game night.

I just purchased some Conquest by Para Bellum games. The models are amazing....warcry is a blast. very fun.

Being a hobbyist in both the painting and the 3d modeling and printing space, you come across some wild claims for both for and against. There's the "I'm sticking it to the man" argument for printing. People don't want to pay a thousand bucks for an army of plastic, when we know it can be printed out with less than two hundred euros worth of resin. I can see that, I've copied plenty of their stuff because I don't want to pay their prices (see my channel for making of series on both the Silent king and Kroak in Blender). I've made myself some silly Marines on mopeds. I have a squad of old terminators with Blood Angel insignia on em. Are we hurting the GW bottom line? I sure as shit am not. I have the Kroak now because I made it, but the model is so insanely expensive I would have never bought that thing just to have it on my shelf. The people that print out entire armies are also the people who've bought the Titans from Forge World. I know one modeler who bought two different FW resin titans so they could replicate them and print out a third and fourth. These people more often than not are the people who've spent more money on Games Workshop as is, and then they're branching out or testing some unique models/poses/kitbashing, or just printing out a killteam for fun. They're the people GW would want in their corner, because while they do print out their own stuff, they also spend the most on GW stuff. And even if they play with nothing but printed models, you still can't prove that GW lost money. They're active in the gaming space, they're filling tables at the tournament. They're posting pictures and getting others excited too. No one on the fence about playing Warhammer is going to go out and buy a printer FIRST thing. No one is going to play a game where there's no one in their area playing it. Then there are the adamant "pro-gw quality" guys. All I have to say to that is that GW themselves posted on their own webpage a painted print, thinking they were pictures of the official product. Printers can produce quality good enough that you won't notice unless told or specifically looking for it, the layer lines are small enough on resin that it won't impede painting, and details can be printed as good in quality as casts. Most printer hobbyist won't because of time constraints, but it is possible. I buy GW stuff still. In some cases, their models still are worth the price, and even the best bang for your buck. Tyranids for practicing organic shapes and carapace painting? Can't be beat. Per model costs for something like the new AoS starter box with kruel bois and the sigmarines? Really solid quality, lots of variety, all that stuff. For printing you'll still need to troubleshoot a lot of stuff, tweak settings and go through some hassle to get your models to look good. On one hand, there might not be any assembly required, but on the other, removing or even adding supports is still a bit of a hassle. Of course all of these are cheaper printed, but the army needs to be at around 2k points before you start turning a "profit" from the investment to a printer, liquids, PPE, etc. (unless you get a tiny printer, in which case it might take you a year to print out an army, but it might be cheaper sooner). For a painter who doesn't game, GW is not the end all of models. They have a unique style that appeals to a lot of people, but at this point I've started looking to kickstarted boardgames for cheaper models. A few companies have figured out some really good detail on previously unusable rubbery plastics, and others are inching towards a similarly printable, durable plastics that GW uses. I see it only a matter of time before other companies catch up to them in terms of quality. Will GW be in trouble then? No they won't. They're the manufacturers of the biggest and most recognizable table gaming franchise, known even to people who have no idea about the game. Their profit margins might take a hit if they keep inching their prices higher while other companies just keep going the other way, but seeing how they've made record profits for years, they're not going to starve anytime soon.

New player: has it always been like this? Uncle Atom, rises from stool and dons *the Fez*: well, let me tell you that in my experience from the before times and this fez...

Nice video. Keep up the good work.