Why I Like Programming in C. 

Just look at the windows world and their msvc and you know how the rest of the world would be like

mingw though!

@@hansdampf2284Installing Visual Studio was enough for me to realize that Microsoft sucks actually with development tooling. No wonder WSL exists.

@@hansdampf2284 What would it be like?

C++ gives you the option to write in any way, you can even write plain C in it. Rust doesn't at all, Rust is not about giving you the "option" to do anything. The whole point is to do it exactly like the compiler wants you to do it. No thanks.

@@Leonhart_93 Sort of. Afaik the compiler forces you to write memory safe code whether you like it or not, You can use unsafe rust if you don't like this.

Nice! It's hard to describe how smooth that transition is--from the computer's internal operation to C. If you want to jump to the bottom you could try designing your own CPU. NAND2Tetris is a great resource for that (from what I remember of it). It's a big jump but *does* grant a lot of...perspective.

​@@FranciscoFox Wow, thanks! I'll take a look.

Binary is harder than you think, learn how to use microcontrollers first to get a gist of it.

Good for you, and good luck developing the resilience against people telling you that you're doing this programming thing wrong. Check out Peter Cordes on Stack Overflow. If you're going to learn Assembly you'll likely bump into him sooner or later - the guy is a goldmine.

@@Anriuko ahahaha great advice. I was already working on an Assembly project, learning more stuff every day. I'll take a look at Peter Cordes too. Thx

yes C is "simple" aka needing unreadable unmaintainable unsafe 200 LOC for something that could be done in another language in 50 simple lines of code. That's why I just use Nim. Can do anything low and high level at C speed with Python syntax and optional garbage collection

@@afjelidfjssaf Well, I personally would look more in a direction of Zig than Nim. But thanks for the suggestion. I am not sure how 'unreadable, unmaintainable and unsafe' my C code is. I certainly do make small mistakes from time to time that can result in pretty interesting memory accesses (which can cause crashes). But things run pretty robust after I fix those. On the other hand I can use unions to overlay multiple structs into one, and thusly pack them continuously in memory (instead of pretty much having to scatter them on the heap). I like to play with memory layout of things and with how allocations are done. Part of that process is also designing data structures and functions in such a way where it's hard to make mistakes. I suppose our dichotomy can be summarized as "it can be pretty good if you are careful / I don't want a language where I need to be careful". If you would be curious to see some pretty good programs written in C, I would suggest Eskil Steenberg (RU-vid channel). (To mirror your mention of Nim.)

@@danilafoxpro2603 i agree with most of what you said but I feel like its pretty hard to consistently write more robust, safe and performant code than some other languages compiler creating safe optimized C code

@@afjelidfjssaf Mayhaps. Might depend on the person as well. Some people might just not be interested in C, and be pretty content with the language of their choice, be it compiled or interpreted. Whatever works for whoever, I suppose. So far C seems to work for me. Maybe at some point an epiphany will hit me and I'd exclaim "oh what I fool I was for using C all these years!" But that hasn't happened yet. :D

Try Go if you haven’t because to me, I really like C and go feels like writing a better C

C Interfaces and Implementations: Techniques for Creating Reusable Software Understanding and Using C Pointers: Core Techniques for Memory Management Expert C Programming: Deep C Secrets C Programming: A Modern Approach Algorithms in C (Sedgewick) Numerical Recipes in C: The Art of Scientific Computing The Standard C Library (Plauger) The Art of Computer Programming (not C per se, but at this point you don't care)

c may surprise even experts from time to time, but it doesnt take a lifetime to get competent at it

​@@not_herobrine3752ikr. It's such a tiny language. You could learn everything about C in no time.

Use a sanitizer.

rust's documentation is pretty great wdym? It even has a section for general programming concepts, which is something you don't see often

"C is great but the big number of hobbists with skill issue is bad" Ah yes, the floor is made of floor. I'm going to go up going upward and I'm going to go down going downward. Also, the sky is blue.

@@tiranito2834 ok

@@ariseyhun2085 indeed

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There are many analyzers though, linters and other tooling which prevents these issues. And while yes, rust will always be "safer" than C, it doesn't mean that C isn't safe enough.

PHP is a dynamic language built on top of a c-compiler (PHP-C)….its a black box on top of a black box and not very good either

@@webnplay and what IS very good in your opinion? Stuff Like zig Go or Rust or Haskell Clojure or Elixir?

PHP is an awesome language and a great tool for server side scripting. Its not meant to do the same things as C. You would never build parts of an OS in PHP. And the only time you really want to think of using C for returning web content is in the case of an embedded device.