Joe-X recently did a video on some Cold Steel machetes, they are no longer made in South Africa from high carbon steel, they're now made in China from some Chinese crap steel. I guess I will have to find a new source for my machetes.
Totally agree! When i learned about the buyout i went and spent 400$ quickly grabbing the blades ive wanted and was waiting for saving and the right day.. i heard lyn sold to a global company, went and bought 3 xl's and 2 recon 1s
I am with you 100%. They should have stood tall before the man and replaced it!! I had a custom built last year, and as soon as I used it chopping, it got a chip in the edge. It's built to chop. I talked to the bladesmith, and he automatically said he would replace the blade with no questions asked. That's custom service, and that guy is a little guy compared to Cold Steel.
Im with you dude. I had huge chunks break off the front of the blade on my spartan i bought 5 to 6 years ago. It wasnt chips it was huge chunks from batoning some pine wood.
its not supposed to do that.... Unless you talk to a fanboi. Then you'll find out its some kind of purposeful pattern break. Haha
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I have a Warrior Wakizashi and a 1917 Frontier Bowie and both are excellent, although I bought them many years ago when CS was still a name. I was surprised by recent reviews of CS products until I learned that the company was sold. Usually, in any business, selling a company means a huge decrease in product quality, because the new owners just want to suck as much money as they can from it and then sell it further. So they keep the high price tag, but move to cheaper materials and cheaper workforce to keep their profit margin high. It's sad, but this is how the world works unfortunately.
I bought a Leatherneck SF and it have very loose handle that just wiggle around. I did not do anything about, because I was a Cold Steel fanboy and I assumed if Cold Steel made it this was it has to be like that... I feel your pain and I see it too. No one is criticizing Cold Steel and everyone just tell how awesome it is. That's just bad.
I had a similar experience with my SRK in SK5 steel. was doing some light throwing that it should have been more than capable of handling. Turns out the tang broke inside the handle. Wouldn't entertain a warranty at all without a receipt. Absolutely crazy. I guarantee the tang was not tempered properly and was too brittle.
Cold Steel hasn't been the same since Lynn Thompson sold the company. I stopped following it. They now sell knockoff knives of the original designs. I got a Taipan at a pretty decent price but I knew something was off when I recieved it. The "san-mai" steel was ground unequally. I wanted one of these for years and now regret waiting.
Sad to see that happen to such a great company. Between the poor heat treatment causing the bends and breaks and not standing by the product, those are deal breakers for me. You can't charge a premium if the quality and service don't back it up. Should I get more Cold Steel in the future, I'll look for the older models like the original Trail Master with the Carbon V blade and stag handle. That's a beaut!
Brother, I hope all is going well with you. Had some time to check out a couple of your Videos which is hard this time of year i'm so in the weeds with work it's driving me crazy. Lucky for me I don't own any Cold Steel I've just never been a fan but hey for those that are to each his own. ( Love Demko Knives) Anyway just wanted to stop by and say Hi. Take care Brother.
listen here, Donnie! The tip is supposed to bend for if you need a stab around the corner! Some are also designed to break so the tip breaks off in your enemy and gives him an infection! That’s just how bad ass cold steel is! That heat treat is totally on purpose! combat ready!! 😜😂
I think in the end peole will find out the old AUS 8A is a better more robust steel than the current steels they are using. Circa when they slammed a cold steel espada over and over through a truck hood.
The mayhem is made in Taiwan. All of my cold steels are made in Taiwan. I have been telling folks for years now, made in Taiwan = no heat treat, same with Italian made knifes. The only exception is Taiwan made Spydercos.
@@rickk4990 I own a few Italian folders and their m390s and magnacuts are soft. They are notoriously known for having inconsistent heat treat and fit and finish in the knife community.
Hey Donnie, I found and saw the video where you threw this knife and the tip bent... Years ago, I threw my CS Scimitar that also has AUS8A steel, at about the same distance into about the same kind of tree and the tip bent in a similar fashion! I just bent it back and touched it up so that it was as close to original as possible and continued to carry it... I haven't had to deal with GSM's customer service and by the looks of it, I probably won't even consider it. I have a few CS knives that I certainly cannot complain about as they do the job very well and have for a long time. But, I did recently pickup one of the Master Hunters in 3V and am not sure what I think about it in that steel just yet! I didn't need it, I have other hunting knives for processing bear and deer but I wanted to try out one of these new powdered steel blades. I think that AUS8A steel is either going to be soft or brittle at the tip and will either bend or snap, but that's just my opinion and I don't have anything but my opinion to offer in that regard. My experience with knives is with hunting knives, pocket knives and knives to carry for general field use in the woods. I appreciate your thoughts and comments on CS knives, but I'm not ready to boycott CS because of the issue with AUS8A knife steel bending at the thin tip... My Scimitar continues to perform as its designed to and I still carry it although I now have other knives that I carry in its place as well. God Bless my friend, Stay Frosty in these troubling times...
@@DonnieBAllDay I get that and it would aggravate me to no end to! The BEST customer service that I have ever received came from Eureka Tents! I bought a 6 man mountaineering tent from them in 1982 and the main door zipper went out in 2019! I called them and after a very nice conversation, they actually sent me an entire sack containing 20 YKK metal zipper slides just to make sure that I got the right one! I did and my tent lives on! :)
@@rt66rc86 between comments here and on my video, "boycotting Cold Steel Knives", there are some people who have had issues and people who haven't. If you get one without issues, you're good. If you get one with issues, good luck with their customer service. They just don't care
Try the cold steel FM-1. Very good & the best atlus lock knife they’ve made imo. It’s really good. I haven’t cut anything with my mayhem S35VN. I hope it’s not junky
Good to see you again, donnie. If you get the time, I'd greatly appreciate your opinion on this brand of knives I've discovered called Old Ram. Their knives run for pretty cheap and amazon sells some of their knives. There's one in particular I'd like tested that I bought for around 40 bucks total. I can provide a link if need be to show which one I'm referring to.
@@DonnieBAllDay Let me see if I can post it here. If not, I'll do a small video and tag you in it so I can provide the link in my description. One second.
@@shellum ok, so i'M NOT SURE IF THEY MAKE THESE, OR PARTNER WITH OTHER GROUPS. iT LOOKS LIKE 440 OR LESS STAINLESS, POSSIBLY MADE IN pAKISTAN and of course I accidentally hit caps lock! My bad. Haha! This is why they're budget. BUT! it reminds me of Frost Cutlery and their partners or Szco/Rite Edge. People can say whatever they want, if it knifes, its a knife
Cold Steel has always been hit or miss. Been buying CS for over 35 yrs. Some of my CS knives are still trucking along and others didn’t make 2 or 3 yrs.
Man that hurts my butt. Cold Steel is one of the iconic brands that I still hadn't picked up a model from. Seems now like I've missed my opportunity to get a reliable piece from them. Lame. Maybe I'll have to find a used CS knife made before the merger.
I am with you dude. I can say that I like some of Cold Steel designs, but I am not going to go off in the comments just like the fan boys would. Let's say if I bought a Natchez or Laredo bowie today, would those blades bend? Just curious and I wanted your opinion.
Sorry that they won’t swap out for new knife, little brother. And I too have sworn off Cold Steel. The next thing my broke ass will be purchasing is your Trench Knife and if I hit the lottery, the giant War Bowie w/ the D guard. Cold Steel will leave a hole in my heart but buyers need a reason to be loyal and they haven’t been giving one for a while….
A couple of years ago, a RU-vidr named Concerned Aussie had a bent tip problem with the Preacher knife from Kukri House. When he asked them about it, they explained that they deliberately did a shitty heat treat so that the tip would bend instead of breaking, and thats how it was supposed to be. Reckon you should boycott them too?
@@chattanoogachop5154 if you you actially knew what hou were talking about, you might be right. They didnt claim one heat treat then back out of their claim. The heat treat also didnt differ from one part to another. The dont fully heat treat a blade. Its an edge treatment like theyve done for hundreds of years. The point is to reduce chipping. Thats why they use a convex edge. Also why they provide the service to make them very sharp but dont recommend it because that might happen. He stabbed into a steel barrel with a "very sharp" edge. What happened was exactly what they said would happen. Next time do your homework.
@DonnieBAllDay I do want to say that I respect that you responded instead of deleting the comment. As far as not knowing what I'm talking about...well, I certainly don't possess your blade community bonafides, but I have put dozens and dozens of different kinds of blades through 400+ different targets (conventional and unconventional) and have a good idea of what a knife can and cant do . As far as doing my homework, here's a link to CA explaining his communication with KHHI and them explaining they leave the tip soft, so it will bend instead of snapping off. (Skip to 9:00 min. in, video link below).While I can't imagine why someone would want to own a knife with that kind of heat treatment, they do say it's deliberate. So back to my original point: is leaving the tip deliberately soft good when KHHI does it, but bad if CS does it? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gwhbask_Us8.htmlsi=X3rh7Xq06UzazBHu
@@chattanoogachop5154 Spring steel has always been, bend don't break, heat treated. Always. The longer they get, the more they're made that way. The Romans and the Brits were masters at it. On battle fields the blades were made to come in contact with both wood and metal armor/shields. A bent blade in combat could easily be straightened, but there was no fixing a broken blade, hence the Viking Seax. A knife design created from a broken sword. These heat treatment practices have been used for thousands of years and are still used today. KHHI wasn't a Bowie making knife maker. For years the only blades made in Nepal were the kukri. They employed the same heat treatments as they have since the beginning of steel weaponry. Now they make different kinds of weapons. Many that were never made with the kind of differential heat treats they use. So the weapons are new, but the methodology remains the same. A knife that can be field repaired. This is why you won't measure any long blades at a 62 HRC. Cold Steel offer 61/62 HRC. They're supposed to snap before they'd bend. Simple science. Harder means brittle, softer means flexible. So when they sell a knife that was heat treated to 61 HRC, it shouldn't be 58 after the bevels are ground in. That means they screwed up. They carelessly allowed the tip to over heat and ruin the HRC. But that's not why I'M/ME/MYSELF am boycotting them. Its because they blatantly lied. The rep said it was IMPOSSIBLE to be transferred to a supervisor, then confessed that the supervisor was standing next to her. She claimed that the knife had to be purchased through a third party, which it wasn't. I paid with a card, she said it was IMPOSSIBLE to track my order. None of this happened with KHHI or ANY other company I've ever dealt with.
@@chattanoogachop5154 Sorry for being a bit snarky with you. A couple things you couldn't have known. 1) Concerned Aussie was my guy. I gave him a lot of shoutouts and we talked here a lot. He emailed me personally after he dropped the vid. KHHI offered to send him a new one, but I think he was too proud at first. They were willing to absolutely switch it out. CS wasn't.
For me there is nothing better than my Cold steel 4 Max Scout for the price. A beast almost as solid than some fixed blade. So for this reason I cannot see a reason to boycott them
Because you personally have a single knife that's acceptable your unable to understand that you have gotten lucky and the normal is low quality? Seems like a very closed off short sighted mindset. What if you lose it and literally every knife after that is trash? Still no reason to boycott?
I have been blessed to have the quality of knives, tomahawks i have ordered, i got stuff from knife makers, and cold steel everything is great, i havent bought anything from cold steel in years, anything anyone buys is a gamble life is a gamble, i was going to buy cold steel Natchez Bowie knife, i decided to buy your dbad old war Bowie knife, im thinking about getting the dbad big jim Bowie knife, If i asked could they make the knife handle from bufalo horn or ram horn just wondering God bless brother
Correct me if im wrong but the steel is not made in zTaiwan anymore. They've moved their operations to India. Dont know what kind of steel they use now.
They have been making some of their larger, less expensive blades and swords in India for years. But Tiawan is still the place most of their blades are made. They still use a variety of steels including CPM 20CV , 3V and Magnacut.
I heard they made there stuff in Japan, then switched to Taiwan then quality dropped. If they moved again then yeah I'd only imagine it's terrible now...
I just knew when Lynn sold The quality would go down I don’t know anything about the customer service because I always bought from third parties because it was better deal But one can’t deny Lynn had a real passion for blades unlike these new clowns
I recently heard that CS machetes that were supposedly made in South Africa according to their own site, actually come from Chaina. And also use a different, weaker type of steel. I think JoeX is currently testing this, and his vids will prove this. Always sad & angry when a previously great company now puts profit over people. I truly hope they get there sheit together, cause in the long run it's selfdestruction.
Donnieb..so you can get me the same exact adv tactical bow ie you had in drag brass with the ceremony blade EXACT ONE YOU HAD FOR $300 for me for $350 with tax shipping? Let me know I will buy!
The reason they couldn't transfer you to a supervisor is probably because it's an outsource business With people working at home. that has Zero to do with cold steel at all And most of them people have no training or trash training. And There might. Be one supervisor for one or two hundred people My Wife worked for a company that took for a bank and they were the same way.
How are you going to actually write this comment, and say that it has zero to do with Cold Steel?! I’m pretty sure he didn’t look up Spydercos number, and call them about their poorly heat treated Cold Steel Mayhem. That’s like saying it’s not the police departments fault that officers didn’t show up, just because the 911 dispatcher is actually shitty and working from home. Come on man
Completely wrong. I called CS's contact us number on their website. Not only that, but the manager was standing near her as she claimed she just asking him because he was standing next to her. They lied. I have no idea how someone can try and defend that.
Let me start by saying this, I used to be a cold steel fan boy. The more I began to forge my own blades the less I liked them. Cold steel is over priced mall ninja junk. They do have some good knives. I don’t know what I saw in them. I hate them more than ever now.
Sorry dude, but you really need to re consider throwing your folder. The forces that accompany an impact after a throw are simply too great. Especially in a heavy folder like that. Stabbing something full force doesn't even come close to the forces that come into play with a throw. The heat treat thing is odd though. Although CS is certainly not the only company having issues with that...yeah I'm looking at you ZT ;)
@@Darksjeik how does that explain every other big folder eating multiple throws with no issues? When one out of 500 does something different, its safe to blame the one
I agree that cold steel are hit or miss but with customer service, I think the representative you spoke to just happened to be incompetent and ignorant based on what you've said. I work in customer service myself and folks (especially new guys) can do very stupid things. I do also agree that they should've transferred you to a supervisor but again it could be that it's a one-time case where supervisor just wasn't available or the guy was just being an asshole.
My coworker borrowed my American Lawman, he liked and bought one. After 3 days it got dull. We use them hard mine needs sharpening every 7 days his needs it every 3 days. Mine is 2020, his is 2024 and it's junk.
Unfortunately CS isn’t the same company they once were. That new lock is not even close to the triad. I have had a few and let me tell you they ALL had bladeplay. Never had blade play with triad.
You're not alone, mate 😉👍 Cold Steel fuckin' sucks! The ONLY Cold Steel I genuinely wish I had, is the Safe Maker II, but I live in Australia, land of the fun stoppers!
58-61hrc is sufficient! The hardness is perfectly fine sir. Shout out to Billy! Dont throw folding slasher knives. Why? Well because they're the most likely to be damaged when thrown & that is the lesson people need to learn from this! 💯 #ColdSteelfanboi 💋
@@CGBP02 So you aren't going to mention a heat treat, isn't fluid Isn't good? You are going to completely avoid the topic on the customer service? It doesn't matter to you at all that a longer skinny clippoint. In the extra large espada has been thrown many times without issue?
Exactly what I thought happened as well. Cold steel sadly has gone to shit. Like I said would happen when he sold the company. Your best off buying elsewhere
I know it that this knife was crap for what you pay this video is confirm me ,if i say it write i had the feeling it is not good all byers sould test the hardness for gsm blades its not difficult.for me if i go to my lockal store that is only sell cs it cost 600euros or dollars it must be perfect
@@rushgush facts. Ive thrown 1000 dollar folders. All survived. If you commit the same act with a thousand knives and only one has an issue, then it's a pretty good chance you can blame the one.
@@daveyjones5702 two separate density measuring rods close in on a piece of steel. As long as each side has flat contact, the readings are really good. Unlike you, I actually do know and thats why I'm not the one who had to ask
@DonnieBAllDay my Chinese sk 5 cold steels have held up great over at least 12 years......regular carbon steel isn't that expensive, it's sheer corporate greed..CS is going the sad way Gerber and shrade did
