What matters at the end of the day is, what people feel when using the product. The wide screen touch display was it for the iPhone. The eye tracking and high-res display it is for the Vision Pro. Because of honest videos like this, I have decided to become a full-time visionOS developer. Thank you for inspiring me! 💙
Today is my last day to return my AVP as well and I have decided to keep it....I admit the main thing I am doing with it is watching 3D movies but I know more apps will come and I don't see an AVP 2 anytime within the next 2-3 years so might as well ride the AVP train for the next few years and see what comes!
@@FreFgr not likely….maybe a lower priced version will be available late next year but another pro won’t likely be released until 2026/2027. Its gonna take some time for Apple to improve the current pro model size/weight/design and it will probably ship with an M4 chip at that point 💯
Same here! The 3D movies are the killer app for now. And I agree, gonna stay on this train rather then return it and wait for the next version, which is probably first half of 2026 at the earliest. Warming up to video production on this too, plus I know we’ll have many new apps and software enhancements along the way. Very excited for where this is all going and can’t wait to see the next version!
Greg, seriously don’t doubt yourself. That self deprecating stuff at the end, no need for that. This video was AWESOME! You really conveyed why someone would want to buy and use this device better than anyone I have seen and I have seen a lot of reviews. I love that bit about losing track of time Like when you’re kid playing a new video game. That is a feel and really showed that this device is giving almost an emotional experience Bravo. Amazing review. Best on RU-vid. Please keep up the outstanding effort!
I'm glad you mentioned the article from The Verge as it shows just how jaded people can be when it comes to, well, anything. What's painfully ironic is that with all the talk of the lack of innovation in the industry, Apple enters a new market but because it's not absolute perfection it's deemed an abject failure. It's also easy to lose that sense of excitement when you have no skin in the game because you spent company money instead of your own as well as having access to any and every piece of technology you want. Good on you for hanging onto the Vision Pro.
I have another ten days. But I've already decided I'm keeping it. I own a quest 3 and there is definitely room in my life for both. But this thing is on another level.
This was one of your best videos. I like the unscripted natural ones, and you really get what spacial computing really means, unlike some others I could mention.
It never was a thought I’d return my AVP. It is indeed a magical piece of hardware, if David Blaine created a headset. Things run so thoughtfully you forget there’s strings being pulled by chips inches away from your face. Like the screen some how stays in place like there actual physical objects or the amount of AI behind the persona’s or the crazy good environments or the eye tracking and hand tracking 🤤. Something as simple a soft touch of your fingers together activates the cursor scroll wheel🤯
Nice down to earth reasoning. The product has been out for couple week, and like any product there will be issues, the best testers in the world are tech people, everyday people that accidently find a bug, discover a flaw etc.. its far to early for many to decide the fate of such a product, i believe many never had any intention of keep the AVP.
10:57 So everyone gets blurriness that you call a Lens Glare when it’s bright? I thought my lenses were just smudgy and I try to clean it over and over and nothing cleans it. So it’s normal? For me I have to watch movies in light, not a dark environment. The glare is worse when it’s in a dark environment.
One thing I learned is if you reduce the white point and use a daytime background the lens glare disappears. In a completely dark environment, I just reduce the white point further to dial back the glare. It is under accessibility settings for display.
Love to see you exited about that headset. I'm a bit jealous, but then I'm also very happy with my Quest 3. Have it since november and still every time I put it on my head, it's exciting. About the movies I have a similar feeling with my Quest3. I started a few years ago with VR headsets and always thought that watching movies with my beamer is better. Now with the Quest3 it is so good, that I haven't turned on my projector for a long while. Just pop my headset over my head and within a short time I'm watching movies (mostly in pass-through). With a resolution of the VP I can imagine that it's even more fun... So two things should happen simultanously: Apple should come out with a cheaper device or another company should come out with a device (for a lower consumer friendly price) that can do similar things (probably Meta with a Quest4).
Lot of people returning it, never had an intention of keeping it in the first place. Just bought it to do a review, complain about it, and then send it back to get their money back. I will likely be keeping mine.
I am keeping mine because of the screens but I like my quest more. AVP is supposed to be for productivity but how can you be productive if you have to take it off after an hour or 2 (weight, eye strain, general discomfort). Apple can do a lot of things but there is limited real world use case. Quest is meant for gaming and 2 hours is more than enough for that use case.
Also, of the light seal puts too much pressure on some of your face and not evenly distributed you should consider going to an Apple Store and getting a fitting for a better light seal. Made a night & day difference for me!
As I’ve gotten used to mine, I’m able to wear it longer (hours) without much discomfort. That sounds like damning with faint praise, but I find it well worth it, and time flies by when I’m using it.
Saw Apple sheep’s vid for y he is returning his and felt like I was crazy for keeping mine but like u said it’s truly a revolutionary product, it really only falls short when u want to share experiences with friends and family but for someone who spends most of their free time alone u can not have a better product
@@breeknowI have a Quest and an Index, and I can’t wait to get my hands on a Vision Pro. You don’t have to be an Apple fanboy to be a tech enthusiast. I just love tech, especially AR/VR tech.
I think this is actually one of your best videos and best takes on a product. Really really interesting. Normally, I rip you for returning something in this case, I’m equally going to compliment you for not returning it. Although, in your case, you really need this thing to produce content for the years to come, I still appreciate, when influencers recommend a product and keep it. I really enjoyed your point of view and opinions on it as well. Great video.
Here here. My thoughts exactly. I'm still enjoying my Vision Pro and I've got all the Meta Quest models. This blew me away and bought it on the spot following the demo. Excited to see how this product evolves
I LOVED this video. I envy you. I’m an Apple tech geek but I can’t afford a VP. But I had the OG Mac 5 years after it debuted. I waited till the iPhone 5 to get one. I waited until the iPad Air 2 made it viable to purchase. So I can wait on the Vision Pro, as long as there are great tech dudes like you that I can follow!
Great video. So true about some reviewers motivations. I’vr said before, returning it was ALWAYS the goal from the moment most of these smaller and even a few medium size RU-vidrs bought it. This was about CONTENT! Reviewers admitted that in the past, but now they’re “influencers” trying to catch a sponsor. Don’t fall for the “it’s not worth it” title when it should actually be “I can’t afford it” Who are we kidding? Most people can’t AFFORD a $4000 individual use, VR headset even if it were PERFECT and cooked them breakfast every morning. The AVP is not a mass consumer device. Sorry, cutting edge technology is NEVER released so broke people can be the early adopters. The high price set is normal business practice to reduce demand. The AVP is a supply constrained, 1st gen product, a buggy, imperfect, amazing piece of technology and it’s not for 99% of us.
Most of those returning (which has to be taken with a grain of salt because 1. Those that fill out polls may not actually have purchased one and 2. content begets content -- even if they're not returning it, just making a video about it (nobody will ever actually know if they did return it)) likely already had in mind to return it -- an extended trial even though the in-store demos are fantastic. And hey, Apple is a huge company -- they can use the returns as demo units when it expands to other countries, third-party when it expands to other retailers (if it ever does), or eventually refurb to resell to customers that want a bit of a discount. I appreciate and agree much of what you said, and glad you're keeping it. It's a new platform, a new paradigm, with new elements not seen since the iPhone introduction. All the products since then led to this, and it is an incredible start. (And those that complain Apple isn't innovative can sit down.) How the iPhone and subsequent products evolved does set a higher bar, so although some parts of AVP are odd they didn't develop for (Home Screen customization), the other technical achievements blow the competition out of the water. (Just ask Meta, whose execs are now going on the defensive of their own product, lol.) Looking forward to seeing what your longer-term review will result in, and discovering new ways to use it as developers really dig-in, along with OS updates, etc. AVP is very promising!
I am still considering whether to keep mine or not. Have a couple of days to make the decision. There are moments when I feel certain it is not worth the $4K and I should return it. And then there are other moments of awe or enjoyment in the headset where I think “why not just keep it and go along for the ride.” I do hate the glare issue and that might be the one thing that tips the scale towards a return for me.
You're going to get years of visionOS updates. There are going to be so many innovative apps and usecases for the VisionOS. Even the next iPhone, I'm SURE, is going to improve upon the Spatial Video aspect of the cameras. PLUS, I hear that Apple is really working on their AI implementation, and I KNOW that will add a ton of extra value to the AVP as well. Not saying you should or shouldn't keep it, but I'm convinced that this thing is going to get better and better and better.
Meh, I'm still not impressed by this product nor can i see myself having any meaningful use for this. I don't even like wearing my glasses. I'm glad you are finding it fun, Greg!
I also love the movie Hook, snap buddy! Your Vision Pro videos really make me want to get one, but I know it will be a couple of years, but at least it will be more affordable and just imagine the capability in two years
Great job, Greg, great review! I was really tired of youtubers returning the vision pro, mostly because they can't afford it, and I really appreciated your thoughts and general positivity about this groundbreaking tech, keep at it!
I'm glad that you decided to keep it. I know it sounds negative but I feel most people who are returning are the ones who really couldn't afford it and using the excuse that it was too heavy or the pass through is not clear enough is only to get their money back. Wouldn't you've known this within the first 7 days? I'm looking to see how much the refurbished versions will now cost.
I agree. I am looking into a 3d print to allow the use of a $29 BOBO band that I can also clip the battery to the back of. I did the same with the quest with a backup battery and it was a HUGE game changer to balance the weight even if it added more it felt like a lot less.
@@mikevio16 I did exactly what you describe, BoboVR M3 with adapter for the AVP, strapped the AVP battery to the back, and viola! Now it’s counterbalanced, no pressure at all on my face, all the weight evenly distributed on my head, feels great!
I'm getting the Xreal Air 2 Ultra with the Beam Pro in a few weeks. Wonder how the glasses and the new companion device will match up to the Vision Pro for a slightly less immersive experience but more realistically priced product that even works with the newer Apple devices that support USB-C. But it's this new Beam Pro product that is really going to completely put it into another ball park from the other AR glasses in this class. It has 6DoF also. Enabling hand & spacial, mesh depth tracking.. i think of the Beam Pro as a specially designed product as a spacial computer that can record in 3D and can be played back @90 fps using the Xreal Air 2 Ultra glasses. And the unique twin cameras. Up @120 fps for everything else. All with the Google play store with Zillions of games & apps instantly available.
$4,000 is a lot to spend on a device for a lot of potential. Software updates can’t make it lighter or more comfortable, or improve the field of view or pass through. I got motion sickness when walking around with the Vision Pro on. There is a lot of promise for future generations of this product, but for me there is nothing I enjoy doing more in the Vision Pro than my current devices.
My 1984 Apple McIntosh was a generation, and flawed product. It was the beginning of "The Mac". Feel that if I had nothing else at this time for content consumption as in normal I would look hard to purchase the Apple Vision Pro. FYI I only need one main screen. Apple Vision Pro it just might become my daily driver a few years down the road for content consumption when I replace my Apple M1 MacBook Air. I am impressed.
17:01 "Raw emotion, raw thoughts; jumbled, probably bad video, _but,_ a video that I wanted to make." This communicated some of the Vision Pro features that I hadn't seen others communicate, so I really appreciate this vid, actually.
I hate the Apple TV movie theater app. It doesn’t feel like a movie theater at all to me. There’s literally no chairs at all it’s just a black void or black room
Love your videos Greg, but one thing that concerns me with all these RU-vid videos in the lack of content around eye safety and just how your eye's respond once the headset is taken off after a while in the headset and you return to the real world, and if over time all will suffer the same problem that optometrist are concerned about - and that is the number of people that they see with regards to shortsightness in regards to phones, iPad etc. ( I include myself in this, by the way). Remember this is not a TV in which you sit a recommended distance from in relation to the size of the TV, you literally have 2 4k screens sitting inches away from each eyeball, that can't be good in the long run, anyway sounds like a revolutionary product and I'm glad you like it, though I have to say not for me, not because of what I have mentioned above, but I just would not have the workflow to justify the expense (I am from Australia, and the Vision Pro will retail around $5,300 Dollars by the time it is released in Australia, when that is is anyone's guess.) I Don't want to sound like a wet blanket, but I just wish RU-vidrs when reviewing gadget like this inform people of the Health risk associated with these product. Anyway Greg good review as always, keep up to good work, and this is just my opinion anyway. God Bless David
I definitely disagree with having the battery inside the headset being an improvement. It would just make it SUPER front heavy even more than people are saying it is. Having it be external is the best move here especially since if the battery dies you can always get another as opposed to getting another headset.
The best thing about VR/AR or Vision Pro product that is better than anything else is the wait for more apps/games to make real used of its capabilities and usecase. Is not about experiencing for the first time hardware in a beta stage with UI, that's not how you judge such product
12:41 Thanks for taking it inside a movie theater. Been waiting to see that. Would like to see it positioned over movie screens of various sizes before the lights go down (with real world measurements included). Then play the scene from the trailer on RU-vid simultaneously.
If you owned a Quest this would all be familiar. I don't understand why people are so slow to "get it" on this "spatial computing", it's just the obvious, it stores the state of each location so when you come back it's still there, why are people mind blown about that? I think people are slow. (And I've never used the apple device, but I know, just like I knew what to expect before I used the quest 3, and sure enough there were no surprises
@@motherofallemailsthere’s a difference between hearing about it and experiencing it. I have a Quest and an Index, and I’d love to get my hands on the Vision Pro. Some of us are just tech enthusiasts, and that’s okay.
I'm very new to these type of headsets. My first AR/VR expeeince was witht the vision pro. I'm so depressed cause i retuned it today . BUT at least i was able to order the META and hopefully i won't be as sad but i'm not betting on it LOL.
@@rangerkayla8824 thanks! I’m really looking forward to watching movies on this. Olay a few games here and there. I think a couple years from now we will pretty exciting things to choose from!
Most people returning it planned it before buying it or after realizing they needed the money for something else. It’s not because of the product. You know who you are!!!
This will sound odd, but the Vision Pro was so fun for me that, it killed me that I couldn’t be in the same environments with the people I love. So I did return it in hopeful anticipation that it won’t be so isolating in the future. Fingers crossed.
I loved my AVP. The whole experience is really phenomenal. I’m a VR veteran and never found the AVP uncomfortable or heavy, but I ended up returning mine because there just isn’t enough content currently to justify the price. This will certainly change in time and when it does, I will reinvest. Also, I do not own a Mac laptop, and you cannot mirror an iPad Pro Display. I miss my AVP already, it was some really beautiful tech- but the 1TB AVP w/ AppleCare was over $4700 after tax- which I can put to better use while I wait for the App Library to expand.
Good luck with that. Even as a power user I can't find a single use for them outside a monitor strapped to my head. No thanks. My head starts to ache after 30 minutes wearing full size headphones. It's more comfortable sitting at a desk with nothing strapped to my head and a place to lay my arms. I would never wear these in public. They will start to get stolen soon. I'm getting away from having my nose stuck in a device. That's why I got an Apple watch. This would be going in the complete opposite direction. Previously I was saying they could be used in a scientific or engineering environment but now I'm hearing Engineers are complaining about headaches and eye strain. Enjoy your $3500 head monitor.
Just when you begin to question Vision Pro, just remember RU-vid is now working on a native visionOS app after weeks of stating that they had no plans of developing one up until the release lol😉
The main thing it needs is better pass through both ways. The appearance of the ‘eyes’ to the outside world is probably more critical than AOD on an Apple Watch making it look like a watch! Seeing out needs to be clearer too and the Avatars for FT also should be more realistic and less ghostly. Finally shared VP experiences are a must for this thing to fly otherwise it risks being a prison for the user and dehumanising to the spectator!
Simply the best video I have seen yet explaining the Vision Pro. I am 40 years old and never did I expect to see something this surreal in my lifetime. Fantastic video, thank you.
The people that are returning the Vision Pro had no intention of keeping it. They wanted to review it to get RU-vid views and then make a return video for even more views.
Why would anyone return the most immersive and advanced piece of tech ever developed? You’re getting $50 billion worth of tech for less than a 16” MBP.
El AVP están personalizadas y al pasar de los años será imposible venderlo, la versión 2 posiblemente no exista la batería externa, sean más ligeros y es ahí cuando quizás si las comprare. Gracias a estos reviews me ahorre $3,500 dlls y la vdd no los necesitas, la tecnología avanza y este 2024 tenemos a: Rabbit R1 Monocle AR Humane Ai Pin Sora AI de OpenAI
I love this video! This puts it together so perfectly. The most flawed, and the most amazing device I have ever experienced. I’m just too excited to see where it all goes, I am willing to wait it all out. Let the software get updates overtime and then see where the new hardware goes in the future. Never considered for a second bringing it back and I am content to let them take the time to update the software, update the apps available and see how much better they can make it. Outstanding video!
I'm not sure why he's making such a big deal out of watching movies on a big screen in a virtual movie theatre. You can already do that very well on the $500 Quest 3.
If another VP comes out in 2025, the reseller value of the unboxed and used 1st gen with a weaker processor, worse Pass-through cameras and audio will tank.
Apple is notorious for give you not so good first generation products so they can upgrade the next middle just slightly to keep the market for it consistent and keep people buying them. They will never admite it, but it's solo obvious. Like they clearly knew the external battery was not a good idea. Yet, they slapped it on there because it's still so amazing people were going to buy it regardless for the unique tech experience it provides. Garuntee the new model won't have an external bat pack so they can get another 3k out of their cult like fans
They bought it with the intent of refunding it, they never meant to spend the money anyway. So pitiful, also most people not owning it having any opinions are envious people, like there is no reason to talk shit about a thing someone never own.
