It has more noise if you’re comparing it at 100% to something like an A7iii at 100%, but that’s not a fair comparison, since you’re viewing the A1 file at a much larger size. When you scale them to the same resolution, like you would in every real world scenario for print or digital, the noise is compressed, so the noise performance is typically as good or better than lower resolution cameras. And like you mentioned, the extra detail gives you more headroom for noise reduction while retaining detail.
Sony a1 has the most dynamic range of all hybrid cams. This makes it the closesr to a cinema camera. So for filming there is no better dlsr style camera and its a perfect photo camera also. The a1 is worth its money
The noise is manageable if you stick to the parameters that the camera performs best at. ISO 100 and 500 on the A1 give the most dynamic range lowest noise. The difference between 400 and 500 is huge.
I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others. Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. The af alone is far more superior and now with the new af and steady firmware update I'd say its extremely hard to beat. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. Even in most literature and real world reviews sony af among other things keep coming up on top. With unbiased reviewers ofcourse. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. Plus with it's compact size it's more versatile so you can use it with most gimbals. If we're talking about serious videography that's huge plus. You dont have to spend more money for a larger gimbal plus all the add-ons you would use with a cage. This compact size would help keep the weight down which people dont realize how cumbersome these all that can be. So that compact body is perfect.The Sony a1 body alone is extremely versatile. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras including Nikon. So where would Nikon be without Sony tech. As for working in the dark i don't need gimmicks to get the job done. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. Nikon to call this it's flagship i think is a huge error considering the z8 is rumored to come out.I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo. Although you can't go wrong with either in the end.
I have to wonder about the credibility of someone who pays $7k for a body and the main reason for dumping it is the lack of a flip out selfie screen ... just sayin'
your content quality seems like it comes from channels with hundreds of thousands of subscribers. i was a bit shocked i was off by 3 digits. clearly, you know a thing or two about making good and interesting content. now let's just hope the lord of algorithm bless on you and give you the subscribers you deserve. subbed!
Just remember, it's not a vlogging camera. Flip out is for vlogging. If you need a flip out screen so you can see if you are in frame then get a mirror connected to your hot shoe or something so you can see if you are in frame. It's cheap and requires no power. Just connect it and you are good to go. I use one with my iPhone. A camera looking handle to hold the camera and on the front is a mirror I can flip around when not needed so I can use my good camera for vlogging instead of the front crappy camera. So a mirror for vlogging should be an easy thing to adapt. That is all a reversed screen is anyway. An electronic mirror.
Definitely get that about grain in higher MP cameras. I have the a7riv and it is really unforgiving - the a7riii is much cleaner. Would you like to see Sony use the more robust body of the a1/a7siii/a7riv with the a7iv.
Between sony a1 and sony a7rv which you would choose ? I want a hybrid camera, most time gonna be used for video, sometimes for photo, i dont take photos of birds, animals, things that require a high fps but i'm with this question on my mind
I use an A7IV and a Z8 for photography. I also have an A7SIII, but it's gotta go for very green reasons. The Z8 is a little noisier than the A7IV if that means anything to you. It doesn't really change how I use the Z8 much. The image quality of the Z8 for both video and photography make me want to always reach for the Z8 first, selling the A7SIII soon. I can do almost anything with the A7IV,, so I'm very torn on trading both Sony's up for a single A1. I kind of don't want more noise though, so I'm wondering if I'm ok where I'm at, especially if you're saying that the color science of the A1 is the same as the A7IV.@@luisedtr07
as for on/off switch, certain cameras may have an issue with a flex cable inside, that can wear off by simply on/off switch movements, that's why I prefer on/off buttons in different places, but I guess quality standards in flagships are much better (I hope)
The flip out screen was a deal breaker for me too, I was choosing between the A7IV and the A1. I couldn't see myself spending that much without a flip out screen!
I hate the flip out screen on my a7siii and a7iv. Way too time consuming to just tilt the damn screen up. The a7siii should have a flip out screen but the higher end photo cameras absolutely shouldn’t.
I'm officially turned off from getting the a1 now. I was so sure about it until this video because our shots great video. Nah...I'm still getting it as a C-cam to my a7S3 and a74.
Thanks Abdi! Thanks for commenting and I really appreciate the compliment, means a lot. Just checked out your channel as well, awesome stuff and I just subscribed :)
The amount of noise caught me off guard with the Sony A7R4, I knew noise levels would be higher with so many megapixel's but I didn't realise just how much noise until I started using it. The camera defiantly came with a learning curve when it comes to shooting and editing to minimize the noise.
I wonder what’s the method to the madness to not having a flip out screen…. Cause it’s low key ridiculous to spend $7,000 on a camera with no front facing
External 7 or 5 inch screen. That is my "whatever you come up with comment." Seems so obvious to me Why do you not at least comment about what you all tried and why that could not make up for it to you - in Your video... I think an external monitor might even quadruple quality and pleasure without being clunky. later..:Ok i see now that you dont feel like it on any setup so I guess you must be (why not) knowingly "allergic to additional monitors ? Thanks for your video. It does make a lot of sens - also im relation to your thoughts to the A7-4
I donno why Sony didn't give all the tricks in their sleeves to the flagship model A1 like flipout screen and focus breathing compensation...the way they separate their product line is getting quite annoying these days.
1. File sizes (you knew it before buying) 2. Noise & Grain (you knew it before) 3. System Errors (unable to set you camera correctly. 4. Flipout screen (you knew it before) You are the perfect example of an amateuer buying a pro camera and cant handle it.
let's dig in...There are no sides,it's a camera..Period..ALL cameras over $700 can be used professionally, and having a grip means NOTHING to quality of images. Next, there's no logic in buying a camera over 36 MP and not first considering the files sizes. That means that anyone would have to have enough space to keep and archive files with redundancy. I went straight from 16 MP APS-C to 36 MP full frame, yet logically I already had extra computers, bought multiple SD cards, and got a slew of portable hard drives. All the nonsense about color science is a scam when people are going to redo and fix the pictures/video in software anyway. It's not as if you have to walk around inside the computer doing the work, like some sort of skilled craftsman. MOST people do not know nor care about brands, formats, noise, bokeh, nor most of this crap ONLY spoken about on RU-vid. RU-vid is the land of complaining, crying, and comparing, just because people can, while the REAL world uses cellphone cameras.
@@joeneely9970 yeah I was like huh??? So in the first 14-30 days you could have sent the camera back,there was no 'noise'?It took a YEAR to figure out the files sizes were big?Joe,I thought i was losing my mind for a second, then i saw your comment and I figured it aint us,its him..this deserves a resounding DUHHHHHHHHHH...
@@Mr.scoopoly All of lot of TRASH. My Pentax ROCKS in low light and keeps me from using anything to take a picture when it's dark, YOU might not need it,yet i dont care. When you put files into a computer to edit,you can change just about anything as far as color. You would not know one camera from the other after it's been through software..duhh...I dont have the Sony A3 either and i damn sure didnt like that little toddler camera body. You have the Canon EasyBake Oven and you're comparing it with color science and lowlight? How would you know when the camera spends most of the time making bread ,cakes and pies while it's melting?
@@Mr.scoopoly ok,so when it starts melting I need to make me some biscuits, maybe some eggs and steak. I have cameras that have no recording limits and do live streaming. I guess you should have the R5's back since you spent your money on it.It means nothing to me that you didnt love the Sony A7iii because I never bothered with it.
@@Mr.scoopoly Are you slow or something that you keep moaning back and forth about your Sony? Ok, MOST cameras in that price range and level make excellent stills,so that's a given.You can buy what you want,yet i am not spending MY money on any camera that shuts off after 30 minutes and shuts down.I dont care who makes it.On top of everything,i fail to see how you people buy cameras,have issues with it,and dont take it back within the given refund period. It makes NO sense to keep something that you don't LOVE to use,all the time.Go cry to Sony about it and maybe they will cry with you.I have a LOT of gear,from photography, to IT, to audio,to actual studio gear,and I can not think of one thing except this one desktop I dont like that's still here...period..and i will probably give that away..
Can you do a full breakdown on how you shoot your videos with the A7iv? From settings all the way to post production and color grading, I just got it and I’m trying to figure out how to use slog 3 to its full potential lol
Lol I’m not a watch guy. I prefer to buy cameras. But my business partner encouraged me to buy at least get one nice watch since he’s into watches. It’s a Montblanc.
Color science actually has more to do with the lens rather than the camera itself, I've owned 3 systems throughout the years...really tough to quantify, but the lens will define the tones
I wish they would bring a A9iii with all the specs of the photo side of the A1, very downsized video specs, but the new screen please, ah and 3.3k,end of story
Thanks for the content. I agree, the A7IV really does it all. I have a D850 for wildlife, A7IV as backup and streaming, A7SIII for video and slo and the A7RIV for when I have bright conditions for wildlife photography. So a bit of a mish mash, but good enough. Thanks for the vlog.
@@petersuvara A7IV. The A7SIII has really excellent rolling shutter. I should have elaborated. I was commenting on the A7IV "doing it all" as it were. Sorry about that!
For the first one, well yea file sizes are massive when you shoot 50mp, but you do have the option to lower it to a lower resolution in raw so the file sizes could be smaller, but if you’re just going to shoot at lower resolution, then it would just make more sense to get the A7IV. Personally don’t have that issue since I have tens of terabytes of available storage but I get that some people don’t have that option. And for the noise performance, well personally I was quite impressed, we all I have different expectations and the A1 certainly met mine. I have very stable hands so sometimes I can even get away with 1/8 shutter handheld with effectively no motion blur though a lot of times that’s not possible so sometimes it is kind of bad, especially low light video compared to the A7SIII. And for system error, well I’ve actually gotten those error messages or any system errors really, I guess I just got lucky there. And for the flip out screen, well year I agree with you, I also would’ve preferred a flip out screen. Also one thing that impressed me was how strong the shutter is, once I accidentally pushed my finger on the shutter pretty hard and I thought the shutter definitely broke because it’s often the most fragile part of a camera and somehow, the shutter continued to work perfectly fine so that’s something else I’m quite impressed with
Canon R5 is a really attractive camera now that they removed overheating and IBIS wobbling issues with the latest firmware update. Hopefully third party lens support to come soon
IDK man I was watching the vid from PM and I could still see the wobble. IDK that's just me. I owned it for a few months and I had to sell it due to the overheating and wobble. I almost bought the R5C, place the pre-order but then decided to cancel.
@@luisedtr07 I almost went with the R5C as well but the battery life is what stopped me. Glad I stuck with the R5. Wobble isn’t 100% fixed but no camera with IBIS is free from that issue. Also, the overheating issue is 95% fixed. Haven’t had any issues since the newest update!
the flip out screen for photo I get it, it's totally a preference. Personally - We still use the a7iii and a7iv because you can use both for photo during like a wedding and sometimes I don't like the flip out screen. overall nice review thanks for sharing your experience!
Appreciate you breaking it down for us. It’s been on my list of camera options. I’ve owned the A7S iii, FX3, A7IV, A7 iii, FX9. Currently I have two A7IV’s. I’ve thought about selling both and getting the A7R V or A1 to get 8k video. So far the A7IV is my favorite camera I’ve owned for my job. I need equal ability to shoot photos and video for real estate marketing.
I hate RU-vidrs like you that be nonchalant about the camera gear like oh yeah I got that............. Meanwhile I treat my a7siii like it's God Like, or the way A ultra Maga member would love a autograph picture of Donald Trump or a trekkie loving his Star Trek ships or a wrestling fan with a wrestling belt replica.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 yes I am so jelly... But for real awesome video man thank you for making this..
@@luisedtr07 Fuji XT4 - cause you gotta have the flip out screen. With Sony, your gonna lack something, not in terms of tech but in terms of soul. With Sony your gonna try to justify your hard money spent, but at the end of the day your gonna be left empty. You'll figure this out after spending thousands of dollars. Then enters Fujifilm...The day everything changes.
I’m the opposite. I sold my a9 and a7r4 and bought the a1. I couldn’t care less about the screen but I really need the extra dial at the top. I didn’t like the space the photos take up so I use APS-C lenses. They are lighter and very clear. Stick a 55 on the a1 and I can use it for street photography. I’ve never had it freeze on me. What I like best about it is that it compensates for ME. If I forget to take it off 2000 shutter when I enter a darkened temple, my dear a1 still snaps good photos. It is by far the best camera I’ve ever used!
@@luisedtr07 When a person's hand is bigger than the grip, they tilt their wrist up to hold the camera. When the grip is bigger than the hand, as with the vertical grip, they hold their wrist straight, reducing the strain on it. In addition, the hold can be more relaxed when the grip is used. Consider the brackets holding up a shelf. If they are small, the shelf can support a limited weight. But with a larger bracket, it will support more weight. Or, with the larger bracket, less stress will be applied for the same weight. That is happening with the grip. To test this, it is important to have the index finger on the shutter, because that also shifts the wrist position. It also removes the index finger from holding the camera. Both increase the gripping requirement of the other fingers and the strain on the wrist.
"The system errors: I got that weird error message, I didnt really know which" ?? I´m using the A1 for a long time now. When buying a 7300$ camera I´m making sure, that I know what was the error and not just say its a system error and I dont know which... You use it as a point, but youre also saying they will fix it. That all sounds a bit weird to me... And youre selling youre 60MP camera, because the files are too big? I mean - what did you expect? What about compressed RAW? Weird.
Hi Francis, thanks for asking! It's on FB marketplace: facebook.com/groups/1392447727659434/permalink/3314607262110128/?sale_post_id=3314607262110128 😁
Question: with a top-of-the-line expensive camera like this, have they not figured out how to send the camera live view to your mobile/tablet (with accompanying camera setting editing) ?? DJI drones have been doing this for years on hugely less expensive products. There really is no excuse if this App camera control functionality isn't in the A1 !!
I will not sell my A1 for now , the fact that I can take pictures using a flash on electronic shutter makes it worth it. 4k 120fps is very important for me .
since i did my update 1.31 on my A1 my WIFI connection stopped working it shows a permanent freeze anyone know about this issue that Sony refuses to fix after saying its a bug software ?
Main reason is they don't want to cannabilize the sales of the A1! If you had the same autofocus/tracking and improved menu and color science with 24 or 33 meglixels and say 6K video instead of 8K for $4500 instead of the $6500 of the A1 then Sony would lose money.
@@gregorybeale a9iii is still needed to compete with R3. New menu, picture profile, oversampled 6k60p shouldn't be too much to ask for a sub-flagship to be priced around $5k.
System error is a real problem. Mine started this switching on and off loop with system error message. Retailer told me it’s a motherboard issue and they will replace it. I’m waiting for the camera, I hope this thing will get fixed. Thankfully mine was still under warranty otherwise it would have cost me a lot I guess
I only went to sony now with the launch of the sony a7iv, and I really like it a lot, the camera body, quality of photos and videos, auto focus, variety of lenses with a fair price, but it's a shame a camera as expensive as the A1 does not have a flip screen.
probably something to do with weather sealing. Canon R3 doesn't have a flip out screen either. NIkon's Z9 does. I think we'll see a mark Ii version of the A1 in around 16 months and it'll feature the same LCD screen as the A7R V imho. Probably a few more mp too.
Hell yea man. As far as lenses it depends on your budget. But I would recommend the 12-24mm GM, the 14mm GM or the 16-35mm GM. If you can’t afford the GM then find one that’s more affordable but you can’t go wrong with those focal ranges.
Why Sony A1 seems to have better color science or more noise : AA fiter , not BSI Since the camera shoot faster it will have less time to process the image so they needed to put this AA filter Canon lovers will love the A1 color science and image rendering however that does not make it better image quality than other models using BSI and no AA. Viewing the a7IV which now has BSI, we can see how they improved the color science even with a BSI sensor, and I think that's one of the reasons they take so long to launch the A7RV, because they are trying to make good color out of the camera with BSI and no AA filter in high res. We can all see how sharp looks the images from sony cameras having BSI and no AA filter (they lack the punchy colors). And that's one of the reason fuji x cameras makes great images, they use no AA and now start to make BSI sensors, but with a secret ingredient : the x-trans sensors which does need less processing for colors. In fact we have to compensate the lack of colorful rendering when removing AA filter IMO
Nice promotion for Sony. Brand Ambassador?! I use Sony TV, they are nice though Samsung is catching up. For photography purposes, I use camera manufacturers' products. For videos, dedicated video cameras.
I just bought an A1 to replace my A7IV. The A7IV isn't anywhere near fast enough for surfing photography and I want more megapixels. I'll probably sell my A7IV and get the A7RV as a back up.
Lol i guess you didnt do the firmware update. The new update allows you to choose the file sizes. The noise and grain was also improved. Try to shoot with a flip out screen during an event. If you need that then you're a video shooter. Tbh you had GAS that's why you got the A1
Agree regarding the flip out screen and event photography/any fast moving situation. Way too clumsy and time consuming. And you’ll have to fold it back in before hanging it back down on the strap otherwise it will absolutely get smashed off.
You spoke more about the pros than the cons which lends me to say keep it as a back up because you never know when you might need it especially when the specs calls for it.
@@delanescott7872 it's about being sensible for a specific application whereas a $7,000 camera may be a bit much for general-purpose photography. I still own the A7r2 and the S2 and they came in handy when I needed a multi-cam setup. Besides, if I'm going to work hard to obtain an A1 you bet I'm going to keep it for a long while.
How can you afford some much gear? Looking at your subscribers, you're probably not making a living outta RU-vid. Any advice to be able to buy all these expensive gears?
Lol nah I just started posting on YT and I use it as a platform to create and publish :).. I’ve had my own business since I was 21. And after a decade of being broke and sleeping under my desk I was finally able to.. not be broke 😂
Never watched this channel before but this person speaks a ton . What was this video about? . He loves the camera , loves the video it shoots , it’s so fast takes great bird photos.Then why are you selling it . He should keep it and then he almost has the entire range of Alpha cameras .
I think it really comes down to preference and how close you want the camera to you. But my favorite is the 24mm GM and the 20mm g. I like how I look with these lenses.
