basically my story. As a shareholder, I was also livid that the stock price would crash. And now after the paycheck hit the bank yesterday, I even went ahead increased my position ;)
more like over 150 years old at least. Ever since the first person hacked off the back of the Model T to put a flatbed in, it has looked the same with minimal change because there must be a box in the front to house the engine, a taller box in the middle for people to sit in and see over the engine and the rear flatbed, all sitting on top of a load-bearing skeleton frame.
Tesla should look into have a battery back inside your trailer, utilizing the battery pack in the trailer as well to get your full 500 miles while towing
If you’re in it for the longevity, 200k miles in a truck at 18mpg and $3 a gallon is $33k. Assuming the cybertruck has a 200kwh pack it will costs $8k to go the same distance at $0.10 per kWh. Making it $25k cheaper per 200k miles. Putting the Tri-motor price at $45k when comparing to an ICE truck. Not including oil changes, brakes, and all other maintenance.
I do see a Tesla truck already on the road pulling their own cars down I-5. That’s enough proof for me to know what they claim and then deliver like Elon has before.
Matthew Barrick lol “knife bad build quality large panel gap, cheap materials and plastic”..... kinda sounds like every vehicle made right now, stupid paints cost extra, plastics and buttons, and center consoles, and pressed aluminum tin cans surrounding engines design to fall out under you in a crash. All vehicles made today are tin trash cans.
Unfortunately everything on the truck is over the top for daily use. Stainless steel for example. Have you ever tried to keep a stainless steel fridge clean? Now imagine it being outside in the weather. In addition the stainless steel is thick. In most cases it's undesirable to have thick body panels. They are not repairable is slightly dented, and in a severe accident thick steel will shear rather than crumple. What happens when a hood doesn't crumple? The flat steel is pushed through the windshield and injures the occupant. The bed sides are way too tall. Anything in the bed you want to grab or secure you will have to crawl into the bed to do so rather than reach over the side. In addition the high sides will make for a huge blind spot when driving. It has air bag suspension. Do you know how often air bag suspensions on light duty trucks Fail? A lot. And they are expensive to repair. It's new and it's flashy though, and that will distract a lot of people from its huge flaws
Matthew Barrick I appreciate your insight. Still a win for me though. It’s replacing the Titan and the work I do with it. I’m a filmmaker and I get hired to tow car rigs and move my camera and grip equipment. Even with the loss in range from towing I won’t be as stressed as I am with my Titan in terms of expenses. And for road trips I’m keeping my 2008 Kia Rhondo. It’s a fun car and really reliable. Thanks again for your insights. All good points.
Matthew Barrick again I appreciate your insight and research. But for filmmakers? It’s a huge win. For my market which is very niche this truck is very beneficial. Audio setups and noise is decreases so better capture on set versus extensive costly post production work. The bed is about the same kind of. More mounting points for camera and crew accommodations. It’s a go for me. Thanks again for your insight.
The best thing about this video is that it is essentially an ad for Tesla that was paid for by Ford..... I saw 2 F-150 commercials pop up while watching it. Brilliant!!
Until you get into maintanence at $175 hour as Tesla won't sell you parts. Pads and rotors all around will cost you over a grand. Just the power control unit is $3800, not counting labor. Out of warrany costs are huge. Resale is awful.
@@ColoradoHiker ROFL, stating maintenance as a negative for an EV is pretty silly. Lemme tell ya the yearly cost to fuel and maintain a Hemi RAM. Moron.
@@stopmojim A Hemi Ram is a totally different animal than a battery run car. Have you seen maintainence numbers on repairs on an out of warranty Tesla? Ask a tow truck driver in Cali who he tows most often. I know one, he loves Teslas for business. $175 an hour minimum to work on a Tesla. First couple of years great for EV. I know a dude that bought a model S used. Originally $120k, he paid $45k with 15k miles. You will lose waaaay more in resale on an EV. I wouldn't rule one out on the cheaper models. I would never buy a CT. With a tri motor and 500 mile range it will weigh well north of 7000 pounds. If i get an EV weight will be a BIG consideration as 7000+ pounds is very inefficient to run on batteries. And productivity is out pacing infrastructure build. You seen the half mile long lines at spots in Cali to charge a Tesla?
ColoradoHiker7002 have you seen how much it cost to change the oil in this trucks And I’m just talking the oil in his Dodge Ram. In the ballpark of $150.. and that’s just oil. Wait till something breaks. And most of that is oil an other parts not labor so doing it yourself isn’t gonna save you much money.
@@treymiller5736 Dodge Hemi holds 7 quarts, my friends uses 5w-30. You can get the Mobile one synthetic 5 quarts for $25 bucks at wal mart. $45 with filter DIY... using synthetic. Where do you buy oil at over $20 a quart?
Great coverage. I also ordered my Tri-motor CT. By the way, I'm making sure I don't sit next to you when you talk with all the flaying arms, I might get smacked or Karate chop by one or both of them. LOL
When more of the Mega chargers are out there it will become easier for you. They are designed for the Tesla Semi so it should fit the truck and trailer just fine.
the base version cost slightly more than my jeep. And the cybertruck is made out of the material SpaceX is using on it's rockets to mars. I'm definitely upgrading in a few years to the Cybertruck. When new things come out people are always shocked, like they were for the buggy, the hummer, the minivan, etc. This is the future people!
It's simple: The typical person who would want to buy a truck is called a Dude. A Dude is in'erested in buying a truck 'cos he wants it to be tough and doesn't really care about the scratches. When you pull into a builder's yard you know what will happen. A beam of timber topples from the rack. A sheet of metal catches on the wind. Apparently metal balls are worse than sledgehammers. The higher it rides the better it is. Same for speed. A Dude wants as much cabin space as possible, all neat and tidy. A Dude also wants a covered theft proof high bed with easy access. Gotta get the bike up easy, Dude. Now the Dude wants a Tesla. The Guy wanted to get a Rivian 'cos he had the cash. He knows it makes sense to go electric . But his deep down primal urge for a big truck always gnawed voraciously at his conscience. How can you justify a Hummer? A Range Rover? Aha, look at this finally a Rivian! SALVATION! But before Rivian gets their product out Tesla pips them to the post with a smackdown 0 - 60 and everything else with ONLY THREE MOTORS!!! Now the Guy wants a Tesla. It out Bollingers the Bollinger! The Man wants a Tesla because it is just so goddamned cool! A woman wants a Tesla because once you are inside there ain't no shit that's gonna happen to you! The child inside me wants a Tesla because I drew one in History class in the third grade. I always knew I wanted one...
Bill Ridge The extra weight would be great in the snow. No need for sandbags in the box. For cold weather, battery temperature management systems have been getting more and more advanced. The Porsche Taycan was tested extensively in -30c weather. Elon being the the competitor he is will most likely one up it by the time it comes out. The weight might hinder it in deep mud passed the 16” ground clearance. Crash tests will be interesting. I definitely wouldn’t want to be the guy being hit by one.
@Mike Wong I wouldn't be as abusive as ol' Douggie here but seeing as the Cybertruck hasn't reached the crash test stage no one knows what will happen in the unfortunate event of an accident; either to someone else or the occupants, least of all you, Mr. Wong! Nevertheless, acknowledging the basic physics of airbags and a stainless steel 3mm thick exoskeleton, I would imagine the Cybertruck might just be the optimal vehicle in which to crash, if only from the driver and passenger's perspective and unlikely willingness to do so.
Great job...glad to hear u are already dreaming it. As for me, within the first 2 minutes of seeing this 'Earth Rover', I knew I was looking at my new dream car. Kool thing is that starting price makes it more obtainable for me (yes...ordered it the next day). When was the last time we were allowed to ordered a concept/concept looking vehicle?? Tesla makes such things possible & if the competition can't keep up....well. Great work on all ya videos. Now use every info u currently have & make a video about how this truck could fit in a regular (Brandon) truck owner's life.....like price, practicality, adventure, FUN, durability, customisation + more. Keep it fun & entertaining.
@@coliimusic Atrocious to who? You? Looks are subjective. I think it looks badass. We've been institutionalized for decades on the look of a truck. 1 look. One boring look. Something new comes out that doesn't look like the old and it takes time for people to process it. That's why you see people saying they like it much more today than when they first saw it. To me, all other trucks look terrible now. But that's just me...
@bigpigslapper Oink Maybe on a long road trip...today, but you wont be able to make that argument in the near future. Battery and charging times are currently at its infancy stage. Even at this stage, it's good, but it'll get much much better moving forward. Furthermore, while you're driving your 600 miles, you're paying 3 times more money in gas than an electric car is in electricity. The electric motor is much more efficient than a combustible engine. The gas car had a good 115 year run but there's not much more it can improve on. The new era of electric cars has begun whether anyone likes it or not. The legacy car manufacturers has currently invested 225 billion dollars to transition from gas cars to electric cars. They're not spending that money for shit and giggles.
@bigpigslapper Oink Terribly wrong logic. It's actually called fallacy logic. If the grid, power, storm, emp etc goes down, YOU and your gas car are in the same situation as any other VEHICLE. There is no power. With no power, the gas pumps don't work. Duh. At least with an electric car you can have solar and a fighting chance if the zombies come...which sounds to me is the type of person you are. You can have your old ass 1971 50 year old piece of crap car. Who the hell wants a 50 year old car? What's worse is you acting like it's better than a Tesla. You have serious mental issues if you believe that non sense. By the way, 90% of your car's life is done by daily driving 30-40 miles a day. Only 10% is done for road trips or long distance driving. This means 90% of the time I'm actually "filling up my tank" faster than you since I have a charger at home and not waiting. You on the other hand will be standing outside filling up your tank once or twice a week while spending 3 times more money. You wouldn't have a gas station in your garage would you? Didn't think so.
@bigpigslapper Oink As I stated, you can have your shitty little 50 year old car. Good for you. I wouldn't bat an eye if I saw your car. Actually, I would in the sense of thinking what a piece of shit it is. Sorry, just being honest. You repubes crack me up. No wonder your logic is of a 5th grader since you worship a 5th grader in dotard Trump. But hey, even idiots have the right to their own opinions so I'll leave it at that. In the meantime, try not to let Tesla and all the other electric cars bum you out too much. You may not like it but guess what? There isn't a damn thing you can do to stop the EV movement. So suck it up buttercup. You moaning and complaining about it is music to my ears.
Yeah, I'm already kind of sad, thinking selling my 2016 Ram 1500 crew cab. I always said if Tesla ir whoever made an affordable electric truck thats worth it, I'd get it
I am a truck owner, and a love vehicles. Personally I dislike the design of the Tesla truck, it should be great if your only plan is to bumper pull trailers, but otherwise I find the design very limiting. Because of the full unibody design you cannot replace the bed with a flatbed, which removes a decent portion of usability in the work force, as you said it will be extremely difficult to pull a fifth wheel trailer. Because the box design has very high side walls, it will prevent the use of extra cabs that can typically fit in a box such as a field med station because most of them will rest overtop of the side of the truck, and because of the slanted nature of the walls on the bed it will not allow for items such as a sled deck to be installed. Personally I do look forward to what this truck can bring and the capability that it will bring to the market and push other companies to follow, but in my opinion a truck is meant to be function over forum, where this truck feels very much life it was designed for forum over function. Where when you want something to look pretty and go fast that is why we made cars, but we made trucks to be used for work. Also in general I find the design very ugly.
Appreciate this well thought out comment. Good points! Though it seems many of your complaints are focusing on its utility features for companies where I believe the main market Tesla is going for personal use, though of course many people would like those same benefits for personal use as well
@@GizmoSlip Yeah, I do have to say that most of my points are for sure for utility use, for me a truck has always been for work and getting things done, where my car is to have fun, drive fast, and have it be cool looking. I really do see Tesla doing some really good things with this truck and I feel it will work out pretty well for the consumers that they are aiming it at. And thanks for the response, have been a viewer since the iPhone 6s days.
One thing that I'm thinking of when I buy my first electric pick is the possibility of putting an additional (EV) battery on the trailer being towed. So the trailer's EV battery can be charged and ready to go before you start a trip, and can be connected to the electric vehicle in some fashion and extend the range of the EV/pick up. Then add to this regenerative braking on the trailer, so the trailer can recharge the EV battery it has. I'm guessing in the next 5-10 years we will see shops offering a "Retrofit" option to different trailers being towed. Where they will attach an EV battery to the trailer and some fashion of regenerative braking to the axle(s).
These Ram trucks are known for having problems if it is a 1500 but if the Ram had a Cummins engine in it (which is a reliable engine that is put in the 2500s, 3500s, and above)
@Sjors Everyone keeps going on about the 40k one but they fail to think, that cheap one is single motor and just rear wheel drive and a rear wheel drive only truck is utterly useless because the second you go onto a muddy work site or offroad you will get stuck and people will just laugh at you.
I am switching brands as well. Good job on pulling me away from the stereo typical brands I have been loyal to Elon and team. The possibilities of this platform, the company, and the sort time that its taken to rattle the world are awesome!
Sebastian 0113 ohh really the cyber truck doesn’t make pollution? Then what is one of the big issues with electric cars. What are we supposed to do with the batteries ?
It should be noted that self-driving is different than self-driving while towing. It would take additional training for the car to be able to tow autonomously.
@Lon Denard Muskrat never said if it is in regular driving mode. I also don't beleave this specs. It would not be the first time Musk lies out of his teeths. Remember the Hyperloop or comertial rocket flights, the Mars base project, stellar travel to Saturns moons. Solar roads and so on?
@@shepherdsknoll8 You would be highly likely wrong. Especially on the highway. You have to realize that the 500-mile range takes into account energy from re-gen braking. There isn't any of that at a constant speed. Plus you have to factor in a safety 10% buffer. Plus in reality, you may not charge to 100%. In reality, you will probably end up stopping every 150-170 miles at 60-65 mph. Your 30-foot trailer appears to be about 7000-8000 pounds online. You should view the video on towing by engineering explained on youtube. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S4W-P5aCWJs.html But this may still be enough from you if there are level 3 stations near your campsite. Of course, even with a supercharger, you are looking at 1-2 hours to charge a 200kwh battery all the way up depending on the level 3 charger.
We ordered the same truck! I hope when it’s available approximately three years from now he will also offer a cyber Van. If not I’ll pick up my truck and possibly buy a small airstream. Happy trails!
There is something called States laws and it is when you could be using autonomous driving and in one state and the second you pass into another state it could be illegal
I am hoping Tesla will create a trailer that has a battery pack to extend range while towing, The trailer can also have regen braking to help charge on downhill slopes, maybe mount a powerwall or 2 in the trailer.
Out of all the videos I've watched on this truck you've made the most valid points and they make sense. Of course everyone has their own opinions and you can not please every single person. That being said I too have opted to switch from a RAM, also because I pull a 34' travel trailer it just makes sense to have something like this. Plus the potential option for a solar panel tonneau cover makes this thing even more appealing. I do believe not having the ability to to pull a gooseneck is a pretty big downside, but at the same time I've never need one so the chances of needing one will be slim. Looks aside, this thing has too much to offer then a traditional truck not to consider.
Assuming with all the new EVs coming out you can just pull into a spot. You are probably committed to certain stations on planned trips. What if 50 other vehicles are committed to the same 12 bay station? We could be looking at 2 hour stops. In Canada when it is cold i have heard of people waiting 5 hours because it takes so long to charge. Plugged into their homes in the dead of winter it calculated 5 days to charge the batteries.
There is a model X video that shows them calculating numbers. It was around 280 miles.... then went to 110 miles towing. 269 watt hours to around 900 watt hours. They were towing to a camping event and had to turn around when they calculated they wouldn't make it.
@@ColoradoHiker definitely not going to be the same battery as the model X has, tesla is probably going to announce million mile battery in next 2 years, and cybertruck may just get it, attleast 2023 models. look into "solid state batteries" before you make assumptions.
@@darkorbitpro1 I would love to see a million mile battery. I have seen solid state presentations, interesting. A bigger near term problem is the article i just read on zero hedge about the half mile line at one of the charging stations in California. Its a compounding problem as there is finite energy available there. the more cars that hook up the slower they charge.
A 3500 is way overkill for your trailer if a Model X can pull something bigger than what you have. Sounds like you could get away with a mid-size, let alone any other half ton truck. This would solve a few of the problems or cons you laid out.
When it first came out I though it kinda looked ridiculous but now that ive seen it so many times I think it looks SOO much better than any other truck. It makes sense to make it like this, and i wouldnt have to even worry about the structure because it's made out of rocket material. It pretty much only has pros. IT'S THE PERFECT TRUCK
I tow a trailer with my Model X. This is how I'd tow with the CT. Leave in the morning with a full charge. Drive 250 miles. Eat & Supercharge. Drive 250 miles to the RV park. Plug the CT into the 50 amp service and the trailer into the 30 amp service for the night. Repeat. Only need to unhitch once per day to charge.
I drove with NOA from Missouri to California while towing a 5x8 enclosed trailer. Worked fine. Unless u have experience, u shouldn’t make definitive comments.
To answer your question about running your RV AC off the cybertruck outlet. Think of it this way, I know for a fact people can run their home AC off a Tesla power wall for a few hours. And the battery pack in the truck is the equivalent of a few powerwalls, so you should have no problem running an RV AC unit all day.
I've been envisioning a Tesla travel trailer platform with trailer electric motor and battery pack. Charge at the same chargers and use all the same solar ect.
Getting this thing especially if you tow isnt worth the hassle. Id rather top off in 5-10 mins and continue on my trip instead of wasting time charging. TFL Turck did a towing test on a model x and it was horrible at towing a small trailer and i bet the same results will transfer to this. I certainly wouldn't trade in my 2017 F-450 Lariat for this especially since i usually get around 400 miles range towing my 14k lb goose neck rv.
@@jimbobjimbob8275 Not all are pull through, but most of them are situated sideways at the end of a parking lot, so you have room to pull up next to it like a gas pump... Hopefully they either give the chargers longer cords, or they put a few farther away from the rest so that people do block the others... I only have seen them in Michigan, Indiana and Illinois, so I cant vouch for the entire country however
Fuel consumption also depends on terrain, towing and everything else. Manufacturers of vehicles with ICE also demonstrate fuel efficiency in ideal conditions!
First will be of them calculation 180 mile range towing and them pulling into a charging station number 3 in line as charging stations are already getting crowded in places. Sitting at a recharge station an hour and a half or 2 hours gonna get old quick.
Best of luck getting very far pulling that trailer , you will be lucky to get 100 miles per charge . The rest of us will already be at the lake enjoying our 2 mile per gallon boats ..
What's interesting is that nobody has really ever towed anything heavy with an electric vehicle. It will be interesting to see how the battery life and range is, when going over a mountain pass in the summer or winter, which is a pretty standard thing in the Pacific Northwest.
I am getting the tripple motor with full self driving to save money. And i will be savond money when towing. Are you even hearing what you are saying😝😝😝
Fully autonomous, able to withstand high impact such as rock debris kicked up in very powerful winds, a perfect shape to keep it grounded in high winds plus dust would just fall off, massive amount of room that could easily take kitted out astronauts, solar rechargeable battery, body is one piece and cuts down on weight, a space built into the front of it that can take an oxygen cylinder, high ground clearance. That thing with a few more tweaks is a Mars mission vehicle.
About Charging with your RV, if they want to sell the Semi, they need to build at truckstops anyway, I am sure the Semi comes earlier, means when you have your Truck it will be ready for you I am sure of that.
Great video. I wouldn't be concerned, for several reasons. 1. I expect the Cybertruck to support CCS charging so you can charge at non Tesla charging stations like Electrify America, which in 3 years will have numerous thoughtout the US. 2. Do people really drive such long distances without at least a toilet break ? Charging speeds will be much faster in 3 years, so I predict you can charge in around 10-15 mins. 3. Gas prices may significantly rise in 3 years so cost of ownership will be vastly cheaper for a Cybertruck, with the added solar panel or solar wing, you also get free energy with the Cybertruck. In time, I predict it will be more and more obvious to people that a Cybertruck is a clear winner.
Possibly! But it’d have to be really windy. Also, airstreams are fairly short and very aerodynamic compared to box shaped RV, so wind isn’t as big of a deal
Divide the weight of the truck by the sum of weights of the truck and the airstream. Multiply this to your trucks range, and you’ll get the upper end of your towing range.
I think the cybertruck can go further with your air stream (if I heard right) because it has REGEN. So the weight you are pulling, will recharge your batteries while breaking downhill etc etc...
