To keep it simple, he was on steroids, but he has stopped taking them. Now, he uses this excuse to justify his upcoming muscle loss, likely because he feels the need to maintain an image for his audience and followers.
@@marcoacosta5981 In this industry, being satisfied with your appearance is important. There are fitness professionals who speculate about him using steroids. The best way for someone to transition off steroids is to focus on what is healthier for their body. If they revert to their old physique, people might comment on their past steroid use and their current size. Having lifted since I was 12, I can usually tell when someone has used steroids. There's nothing inherently wrong with it; it's just a fact.
Not too long after you added back carbs, I had to go back to carnivore for serious health reasons. You are clearly doing better with your goals with the addition of carbs and I am doing way better with mine with their removal and it was great to see your objective approach. I feel like a lot of people are far too polarised on the carnivore diet. It is neither panacea nor scam, it's not for everyone but it could be for anyone. And it's great to see you making progress and doing better.
@@garys6898 Why eat them though? If you like them sure, but even then, there's much tastier animal products than greens. So if you're gonna eat carbs, it should be in the form of fruit and honey, then second best, being white rice, and maybe some other starchy carbs like potatoes.
His real only problem is a calorie issue, which I was told by Dr. Mike Fraudaletel that would actually give one too many calories because of how many calories are in fat.
So I guess that's a myth. If anything like Lee said, it would cause way too slow of digestion, and not able to eat that many calories to put on weight or increase the pump.
I'd say immune stmystem disorder or if you're doing keto for seizures or some medical reason. A ok. But for bodybuilding or just lifestyle I wouldn't count on carnivor or keto.
From the puffiness on your face, it's very clear that the inflammation on your body is higher after adding the carbs. Just compare your face when you were carnivore with now, it's very visible.
@@stevebush5510 not good for a bulk. its a lifestyle thing. it plain makes me feel better but if youre into gaining mass or on any types of peds stick with the carbs. i roughly try to hit a 70/30 fat to protein ratio but at the end of the day it might be less fat than that. but thats not carnivore thats keto, very different
I’ve packed on fat now that I eat carbs everyday but, when I was 8 percent body fat, I ate only some protein waffles in the morning and the rest was just steaks and ground beef mixed with eggs everyday, and on Saturdays I would go to McDonald’s or wherever and just carb up once a week, and I had no problem staying lean like that.
Hey, I'm Jonathan Griffiths, a 29-year-old with a BSc in Human Nutrition from Bournemouth, Dorset. My journey as an amateur bodybuilder has been unique due to a fused spine from a rugby injury at 14 and my Autism. Despite these hurdles, I've found incredible success on the carnivore diet over the past four years, after other pain relief methods failed. I have since competed twice as a carnivore bodybuilder, with my recent showing on June 2nd 2024 where I placed first against an extremely competitive line-up. I am going to the British finals to try and earn my pro card in the open category in classic bodybuilding, as a disabled athlete. Meanwhile, I have had my spine fused in 2022, and various procedures to try and reduce the pain I am in. I am currently primarily a body composition coach in the carnivore community and have helped hundreds of people to reach their goals. The carnivore diet is my only option to try and thrive, and I love it! My diet mainly includes beef, salmon, chicken, eggs, cheese, milk, and butter. I avoid fruits, veggies, grains, nuts, seeds, oils, and sugars. I drink water, coffee, and bone broth. No calorie counting here, just focusing on around 350 grams of protein and fat each day for the past 4.5 years. In the beginning, I lost 5 pounds and felt a surge in energy, focus, and calmness. I woke up refreshed, with no cravings or GI issues. My workouts stayed strong, with better muscle pumps, vascularity, and faster recovery. The diet eased the pain and stiffness in my spine, giving me more freedom and comfort. It reduced my need for medications and improved my autism-related symptoms, like anxiety and mood swings. My social skills and communication also got better. Blood tests before and after the diet showed my liver and kidney damage from a virus had healed. My blood markers such as liver and kidney functions were normal, with no nutrient deficiencies or hormonal issues. This diet has been eye-opening, challenging many common dietary beliefs. I've learned that meat is highly nutritious and satisfying, and plants aren't essential or particularly beneficial for me. This is especially relevant given the genetic and metabolic traits seen in people with autism. I've stuck to the carnivore diet, with occasional treats like 'Hot Pot' and Korean BBQ, which I can cook myself at restaurants. On my RU-vid channel 'Carnivore Muscle,' I share my carnivore lifestyle, training tips, nutritional advice, and recipes, building a community of fellow carnivores and inspiring others to try this way of life. I fully recommend the carnivore diet to anyone looking to improve their health, fitness, and well-being, especially fellow bodybuilders and those with spinal conditions or autism. In my view, it's the best way to enhance both body and mind. 💪🥩🚀
Finally someone who is open and makes an honest review of somewhat controversial topic for others - even after ending the carnivore diet, acknowledging the cons and pros and potential benefits of carnivore diet with open eyes by their personal experience, and standing by their stance, that it is something worth exploring, and not just aimlessly disapproving it. Huge respect for your courage, and i wish you Lee all the best!
He is on steroids. How can any normal natural bodybuilder listen to anything he has to say ? As far as I know, steroids are not a part of a carnivore way of eating.
Since I started Carnivore 1 1/2 month ago my life has changed for the best, I feel like a Super human, I fast 16 to 24 hours a day, I naturally weigh over 200 pds,so it's easy, I only consume Carb B4 workouts Carnivore has given me a better life...
No problem, it is your choice. I have no problem with sleep while carnivore ( also I heard from some carnivores same thing)... also I cannot imagine how it is possible to overeat, maybe cause I am not a budibuilder, still I eat twice a day, and it is hard to binge on protein and fat since it is very satiation. Digestein - would be interesting to see what was wrong with it, since carnivore is easy to digest, becuase it does not has any fiber that can irritate our bowel. Anyway, interesting view, thanks.
i do carnivore diet when i want to prep for bodybuilding contest and when i need to cutting for below 10% fat percentage , otherwise my diet will be have some carb , veggies and diary from yogurt and raw milk
Mad respect how you consistently acknowledge how what you're saying was YOUR experience and may or may not be the case for other individuals. People have become so tribal to the point of not being helpful.
"Carb face" 😂 Yeah, you're goals to get monstrously large isn't conducive to a natural diet like carnivore. If you want to keep getting even bigger, carbs are likely the way to go. For me, size isn't a priority, mental clarity and longevity are.
@@elude3808 exactly. It's biohacking. You gotta trick your body into growing beyond what it naturally should, and strategic insulin spikes can do that.
@obriantomlinson2776 you're confusing my meaning. I'm not referring to any sort of performance enhancing drugs. I'm referring to the natural world. No animal in nature works themselves till failure for no other reason than to gain strength or mass. Gaining mass means more resources are required to survive, so it isn't something that happens in nature. It's purely biohacking for the sake of manipulating your biology. That means to get bigger than your body naturally would, you'll need an unnatural diet.
It’s super simple , the answer is why take so much red meat when I’m on steroids now lol. Sad to see that some many ppl are dumbfounded by some muscles
Lots of people on the carnivore diet do dairy which still has some, plus any excess protein you eat is converted to glucose via gluconeogenesis - this is fine though as your body does need a little glucose (you just don't need to consume it in your diet), and a small insulin bump is beneficial for retaining electrolytes. We actually don't need to be dogmatic with it either, you can get a lot of the health benefits by mostly eating meat, but outside some people with severe autoimmune issues many people do ok sometimes having some non-meat products. Even nitrogen isotope testing shows humans and hominids were about 90% carnivorous over the last few million years.
It's not zero carb, although I understand why people call it zero carb from a practical perspective. There are carbs in eggs, even more so on liver. I can tell you as a type 1 diabetic, after eating liver I even take _fast acting_ insulin. Ketogenic would be a better classification, but even that one has its pitfalls, because typically you go out of ketosis after a large protein rich meal (possibly more so than on a ketogenic diet).
I'm on carnivore right now because I have to lose 100 pounds but I believe in a good healthy diet and for me one of the best is keto. As soon as I lose the 100lb I will start adding some veggies to my diet.
Beaware, once your body get rid of plants toxine and you have more sense of your natural state, after that when you get those stuff back you will get clear sign from your body that is not the best choice to eat. Wish you luck.
Very good, very good explanation on why you quit. Most people on a carnivore diet is doing so because of health issues, they want to stay in a keto state to prevent diseases, it’s not because they want to be muscular.
No reason to eat carbs. Also no reason to go on full carnivore. What has worked well for me over the couple years is 80% meat and diary, 20% vegetables and fruits.
@@dekzzxand we can't digest vegetables. Personally i eat only meat fish, eggs , dairy, exetera but i have sometimes, olives, avocado and strawberry, raspberries too. I mix the berries with heavy cream so good😅
@@DeronFerguson24 he didnt say he tried dairy. He said he tried rendered fats. Thats the exact problem you get with rendered fats, rendered fats are as soon as they enter the stomach ready to be absorbed. He should have tried dairy or non rendered fats bec i cant handle rendered fats either. Dairy is the solution for if you have a hard time gaining weight on carnivore. Why? Bec dairy the sugar in it makes sure that your satiety signaling level is much higher.
i did keto for about 7 months and yeah I lost weight but felt awful. couldn't sleep at all. Ate a mango one night and slept like a baby. Balanced protein, fats, and carbs is when I've always felt best
It took me a year to adjust to carniovore. During the adaptation, I noticed that when I ate vegetables and animal-based foods at different meals, they digested well. The theory of combining foods also supports this. It's not natural to eat everything mixed up in one meal. Meat melts in acid and carbohydrates increase the alkalinity of the stomach if they are eaten at the same meal. Then the food does not have time to digest completely. For this reason, some meat food can rot inside us and undigested vegetables also end up in the drain. The theory of combining foods was studied at Harvard University in the 70s by Harvey Diamond, Professor of Nutrition.
Obviously there are other theories in the comment section but his explanation makes sense. I definitely have found that carbohydrates are a lot easier to use to pack in calories. Protein and fat is very satiating. Therefore if you want to maximise weight gain carbs make sense. I generally focus on health and fitness these days but I have contemplated that issue and speculated that carbs might be an advantage for rapid weight gain.
Just add dairy if you wanna gain weight, or some fruit man. Also their is a wide selction of food it definitely isnt limiting, you can make carnivore pasta with egg noodles
@@steviejrr its about carbs! One orange or banana has 22g carbs each. If you want to add dairy + fruits its no longer carnivore its "animal based diet" chexk for poul saladinos channel...
Dr. Shawn Baker states AT LEAST 5 times in his book that carnivore is NOT a fitness diet. Health is the primary focus. So yes, if you just want to gain/lose weight to LOOK a certain way, there are thousands of diets out there and you should probably avoid something as extreme as carnivore.
Young adult digestion is strong especially if they don’t take drugs or alcohol or have major allergies. I’m in my mid thirties now and have allergies now and it effects my dietary intake and my advice is stay healthy don’t abuse your gut take care of your stomach and body keep yourself strong
2 things,number 1,you were undereating which causes sleep problem on all diets not just carnivore and secondly,body building isn't healthy for longevity if you take gear.You need the right exercise, it's not about volume,it's all about quality in a short time.
@WilliamBTCWallace by eating more protein of course, it doesn't always have to be fat,the macros can be adjusted according to one's lifestyle.He's active and to build muscle you need protein.
@WilliamBTCWallace he was also eating organ meats which isn't ideal,perhaps a tiny amount would be fine but definitely not the quantity he was eating as I've seen in other videos
@@markosmerkouris9111 More protein than 230 grams at probably 160LBS? He needed more energy which he claims comes from either fat or carbs. Are you saying more protein would be an energy source?
@WilliamBTCWallace caviat, this is all in the context of taking his word and accepting his own anecdote. We don't actually know what his diet was as we weren't there to observe him.I have my doubts for this individual as I'm convinced that he's been on gear even when he was on the carnivore diet.
So basically he love carnivore diet but since he wanted to gain weight it was to hard for him with carnivore diet. by the end of the day he was to full and still ripped in carnivore diet.
For me its mainly the digestive issues of fiber. On a Carnivore diet, you don't even feel the food going through your digestion and because you absorb the overwhelming majority of Meat, u also don't have to go poo as often. meaning less time feeling bloated and gassy. VS fiber where you can feel gassy and bloated up to the point when you gottta go. This feeling inhibits my ability to go to the gym, i just feel more like sht. vs a carnivore diet when i feel so great.
Thanks for your thoughts. I'm glad you found something that works for you. Mine own experience with carnivore lead me to having fruit & honey periodically in my diet and that really made me feel better.
IMO you should scale back on your training. Its too much. I haven't worked out in a year. I did lose 60 lbs and then gained 30 back from stopping keto and going all back into a SAD diet. I've been doing carnivore for 6+ months and lost about 20+ pounds and lowered my body fat. The only fruit i have eaten is seasonal; watermelon. i don't eat veggies, oats, rice, other fruits or nuts. Weight training has very little to do with weight loss its mostly diet.
Mr Lee you should get bloodwork taken regularly and see how it's changed as you change your diet. I believe you'll be back on the carnivore diet soon enough especially after comparing your bloodwork. Your health is what's important not a youtube channel and building as much muscle as you possibly can. Wish you luck on the diet and new journey and stay clean no drugs
THE FACT THAT THIS WORKS FOR HIM DOES NOT MEAN THAT IS THE GOLDEN AND REAL RULE! THIS PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR "LIKES AND VIEWS", BESIDES, THEY ARE NOT SCIENTISTS.
I been following you for awhile tristan. Always hyped to see how you progress into other diets and trainging and give us a realistic perspective to think on. Keep up the videos and great work. Much respect 🙏🙏🙏
Bulking up is an excuse to eat what you know you’re not supposed to eat. *if you want to get bigger, increase your lean muscle mass, instead of gaining fat and tricking yourself into thinking it’s muscle.*
Exactly correct what you're saying about Carnivore! I've only been doing it a week, I've lost 7lb, I reckon could have lost more but fell off the wagon a couple of times as found it very monotonous & I skipped on meals so I was quite hungry & therefore snacked!! It is really easy but I've had a cooked breakfast every morning, skipped lunch as still full & sometimes evening, well I'd say most evenings & therefore just having one meal a day ....... I was allowing myself tinned tomatoes with the breakfast & I was going to allow some veg with other meals but had cut out breads, pasta, rice, potatoes & pastries so there was a balance but I just hadn't got round to eating evening meals, just one night actually where I had meatballs & a tin of tomato sauce again ........ Boring!! I'm thinking of allowing pasta & rice again but haven't decided yet?! I still have alot of weight too loose, I'm 16.5 stone which is about 230lb & 5 foot 11, im 52 years old ........
I agree with the commentors, as someone who does carnivore. It's understandable it didn't fit your current goals, and you didn't come out just bashing the lifestyle and blaming all the negatives on it.
“Why I quit the carnivore diet”, same reason steak and butter gal and Paul saldino did. “ hey I built up a large following now I can do what I really wanted to do all along”.
it sounds like you didn't watch the video ngl anyway that's just not even true? there are enough videos from paul saladino about actual reasons why he quit that you could make a feature-length movie out of clipping them together
Eats carbs, thinks he's getting bigger but really it's all just fat - myosteatosis, visceral and subcutaneous. Then when carb eating bbers diet they wonder where all their muscle has gone. It hasn't gone anywhere - it was just all the fat in your muscles making you think you'd put muscle on.
Its actually called muscle glycogen. carbohydrates and water shuttle to your muscles for fuel. the muscles fill with carbohydrates before "spillover" and fat gain happens. read a book bro
People raking him over the coals and spamming how good the carnivore diet is. Yes I am glad you lost 100 lbs but have you tried increasing weight while at 6 to 10% body fat? Are you even close to sub 10% body fat? Because if he is sub 10%, it is very difficult for him to increase his caloric intake and increase weight just from meat alone. And 240 grams of protein and 240 grams of fat within 1 day is freaking insane as it is. Heck the most optimal protein is literally 0.7 lbs to 1 lb of body weight. So a 200 lb person would only need 140 grams of protein, he is literally eating 100 grams more on top of that with the fats too. Heck even 0.7 is erring on the side of caution as you only need 1 gram of protein per 1 gram of LEAN body mass.
The only con for him is the fact he's been at a plateau and needed carbs to get bigger. If he added any more fat, he'd have GI issues. Carbs have so many health benefits and adding them back into his life have had no negative effect on his routine, only positives.
I’ve been a hard gainer my whole life. At my highest weight I was 5’9” 160lbs on the SAD diet. Went on the carnivore and 6 months later I’m 140lbs. I’ve seemed to have settled at this weight, not losing anymore but I cannot gain a pound. The thing about carnivore, you can’t over eat like on the SAD diet. I at least want to get back to 150lbs, any suggestions ??? Best of health to everyone out there.
Not being able to eat enough fat to get out of your deficit seems quite sketchy, I don't think anyone would find it difficult to add thousands of calories by just adding animal fats/avocados/ect to every cut of meat they eat... Adding clean carbs would be significantly harder
I really enjoyed this video and appreciate the insight into the effects of each diet, as well as the pros and cons for you specifically! Super helpful for me personally as I am still working on optimizing my own diet. On a side note, your face is not super round at all! It looks like you're using a relatively wide angle lens (judging by the very squat shaped door behind you), that is making your head look wider than it actually is. Try playing around with lenses with different focal lengths to dial in the field of view that best suits your content. Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks bro very helpful information I’m type 2 diabetic & the carnivore diet Keto diet helped me put my diabetes into remission. I’ve also been struggling with sleep so I’m going to increase my carbs to see if it helps me again thanks for the advice 🤙
I did keto and carnivore total of 1.5 years and felt great and slept really well. After I lost the extra weight I also had hard time to just eat enough and started to have trouble with sleep felt bit weak and low energy during exercise too. Unfortunately after adding carbs I did gain some weight back. :D It was my fault, I just got too exited and didn't really count macros at all.
My uncle ate nothing but red meat all his life, dead at age 53 from colon cancer .. Carnivore diet may have some short term benefits once you switch but it is not sustainable in the long run as your body needs other nutrients you get from eating veggies , nuts , salads and fruits ..
Not that it matters critically. It was just a distraction during the video. Air quotes are not being used properly. Stupid observation, just an FYI. Amazing journey youve been on, from such a young age & I personally appreciate you acknowledging how nothing is set in stone and that personal experience and adjustments are part of a personal progression for each of us. Later Gator.
Italian foods: It depends on what type of Italian foods you are referring to. There are also the typical Mediterranean Italian foods. Fish, Meat, Vegetables, Salads. Moderate amounts of bread (the old white, unsalted, flavorless bread). Some or moderate amounts of Pasta. Why only some Pasta? Because in Italy Pasta is a precursor or side dish only, not the main dish. No Pizza, please, eh. I'm not sure but I believe Pizza wasn't standard, and today's Pizzas are just topped up calorie bombs. This way it didn't exist in the early days. So, that's the classical Italian, Mediterranean food. What about sweets in the morning. Today Italians often eat (a lot) of sweats in the morning. Additionally, if done wrong: Lot of Pasta, Pizza, sweets, etc. This is a modern wrong way.
tbh most people dont do carnivore for just the weight loss / gain. Most people do it when they learn about mitochondria, and how a healthy mitochondria = insanely less chance of getting cancer and other diseases vs eating carbs and destroying your mitochondria.
to gain weight on carnivore you increase the protein not the fat excess protein will be converted by gluconeogenesis into glucose and the excess of that turns into body fat sorry to say but all your coaches / mentors and no one knew that , that is pathetic
I mostly live from a low carb diet (not zero, low) or the caveman diet. Vegetables, Salads, Fish, Meat, and Dairy, Eggs, sometimes some carbs from starch like potatoes, rice or even bread. I never did a pure carnivore diet. Maybe I'm going to try this, too. And just a side note, bread is not bread. Industrial produced breads are a detriment to health. The doughs get proven and baken only for short time and contain a lot of also artificially added gluten. I do quite a lot of sports, mostly endurance sports. I train for Triathlon, but also do general fitness, weightlifting etc. My experience is this. The low carb approach is something that fits very good to my preferences and gives me satisfaction and I believe, good health. But there is a caveat. For endurance sports I need carbs, especially if I want to perform high. Without carbs I lose power after 1 or latest 2 hours of endurance quite abruptly. Maybe this happens because I never switched to pure protein, fat diet and my body never switched to pure fat adoption (energy from fats to glucose). Or it may also be that the carnivorous diet in general never is able to give power over hours of endurance. I'm just speculating because I don't really know. Also, because I still (have to) eat fast carbs for endurance sports, even if I do lean on a proper Caveman diet, I often get cravings for carbs, after I do the proper caveman diet over more than 3 days, especially for sweets. It's crazy how strong the cravings can be. There was a time, before Triathlon, when I didn't eat any wheat products and sweets at all. When I walked past all the foods in the supermarkets, I didn't see them anymore. It just didn't exist for me and I didn't have cravings for it. So, I say, in general it's just best to cut all the modern and unhealthy food types for health and longevity. But to achieve special results, like more body mass or more endurance, it's a different thing.
Increased muscle mass is easily achieved on an animal base diet. I do powerlifting in my country, and quite successfully. I eat beef, egg yolks are the basis of the diet. I eat egg yolks raw. And I eat beef either fried steak blue or frozen and cut it on a slicer and eat it as carpaccio. Some superfoods: sea fish liver/ikra, ox heart - to cover vitamins and minerals. I consume it raw in thin slices too. I also make a rich broth from ox hooves, joints, tails. And definitely a soufflé of boiled pig skin. It's very important for the development of cheeks. As an anabolic I use Greek yoghurt as a high insulin index product, drink it after a workout before a meal. And at the end of each meal I have some chilled berries for dessert.
i love how fair this video is to the potential of the carnivore diet. anyone who watches this and feels betrayed because they're still a carnivore and you're not, needs to take a step back and look at themselves and think about what they love about themselves...and what they hate about vegans haha! there can't be a dogma in this community! it won't be sustainable if there is imo
