Why I Sold Battlestar Galactica 

The real question is, why didn't you sell it to me?

I sold my yugioh collection to help fund those expansions , glad to see that investment returned dividends in cash hahaha -Daniel

I like that you state the most tense part of the game is keeping from being forced to do very little gameplay when accused or discovered, and also that the enjoyment of a game should fall more on the game's nature rather than group interaction.

RIP to an era. I'll miss seeing BSG featured prominently in all your stereotype videos.

The points you raise are absolutely valid. However I enjoy playing BSG so much. We have a fixed group of five people, that know the rules and tactics and all watched the show. That beeing said there can be games that are not super interesting, e.g. when the humans get crushed hard just by bad luck without cylons even doing much. With the group beeing very experienced with the game it is also true that it is very hard to do something as an unrevealed cylon without getting caught which often diminishes the social deduction part of the game. Ultimately it is probably more fun to be human because of the crisis management and optimizing turns part.

All of your reasons make sense. I have similar feelings with old favorites. My tastes change over the years, and especially as a content creator it's hard to get all the games I used to love played. Which makes calling games favorites feel weird too, if we don't play them anymore! But those memories are still favorites.

Back in the day I used to play it every week in a board game club I used to go to. While yes, usually Cylons would win, over time we learned to give them a hard time as humans. You have to check all the cards in a skill check, you never give an executive order to someone that will be going right after you, you scout early and often, you race through your jumps to make sure Cylons don't get too much leeway and so on and so on. It is possible to win as humans and the more effort you put in it gets even easier. Personally I found that even if you get revealed early as a Cylon you can still enjoy messing with the other players, although yeah, your role gets way more passive unfortunately. I really enjoyed the game back when I was able to play it regularly. It was very nice and thematic, captured the spirit of the show pretty well! Maybe one day I'll be able to play it more...

I had my two gaming buddies over. They'd played before once, I've played a out 25ish times. Had 2 new to 'not Monopoly' board games. Explained the game and that humans almost always lose regardless. One of the new guys drew the "you are a cylon card" but decided he didn't want to be one so played full human goals the entire time.

Yep understand this feeling I still have my copies of Axis and Allies that probably will never get played ever again but love the memories.

This was almost the only game we played 2010-2014. Then Walking Dead happened and it was much easier to play Dead of Winter over BSG. I played a BSG game with all new players right before the pandemic and it was a little slow... I still play the workarounds we did to address BSG's issues. We found humans usually lost by losing morale so we swapped in crisis cards from Exodus and Daybreak that targeted food and damaged Galactica more. We also had better agendas for Cylons that offered more freedom and made 6-7 players more fun. And we added house rules for characters to address balance issues. I still love the game, personally, but it is hard to get new players to fall in love with it.

I totally understand where you're coming from. I used to be a boardgame reviewer on a French channel; I had to sell some games (although I really liked them) just because I needed some space for the potential newcomers that were most of the time a shot in the dark. I couldn't play my favorite games as much as I want, or rediscover forgotten classics from before. And I think that is the most fun part about having quit the media world. I get to play whatever I want, whenever I want. I don't care to please an audience or to cover the last new game; I am not in a hurry to play the next one on my shelf. I can just sit down, play a game as much as I want, then get to one of my favs of all time, then go to a new game I just got... or not. I believe it's a shame though that you sold it. But you surely have played it much more than I did. And your reasons are understandable. I just hope that you still will hold some love for it and stay true and authentic to your taste without being tainted by the hype train or the FOMO. Love your content btw! Cheers friend.

Who you play a game with is far more important then the game it self. As you pointed out this game requires several people with equal skills in a certain area. Games like this are just getting the the table less and less. Although you had incredible moments with the game, it was 25% at best. 50% was good and the last 25% was ugly. And there is a point where the $$$ value of a game you just do not play is too good to ignore. Send it to someone who wants to play it rather than letting it rot on the shelf. Been there done that.

Man I feel this so hard. BSG was the first board game I bought, my most played game, and still my favourite. Will I bring it out in 2021 and onwards though? Unlikely. When you said '5' I instantly knew that was player count, because it's really the only player count for the game. While you don't need to have seen the show to get into it, it REALLY helps to explain stuff if they know the show. I've taught this to non-gamers and their 60+ year old parents who loved it and got into board gaming because of it, but now it sits on my shelf like a sad memento that I'm not sure I'll ever get to the table again.

Omg the ending legit made me so sad... but I guess that’s growing up - knowing when to let go!

For new gamers you will teach Avalon/Resistance first... then Bang the dice game and only when those are OK, then you move to BSG....

Very much looking forward to your review of Unfathomable.

"You did what?!?!" In all seriousness, I can't fault your reasoning. Even though I love my memories of playing the game, I cannot be sure that my next play would hold up to them. That and the time commitment are the main reasons I've never bought it when I've seen it for sale. I've always enjoyed seeing it in the background in your videos though. End of an era.

I sold my base game and expansions a few years ago after the price had gone up. My first BSG game was perfect with a great teacher, a fantastic group new to the game, and a human win with the perfect “Stand Up” die roll to end it. I got the game from this and played it multiple times, but it never re-captured that original magic. A pattern of the game running long, feeling long and then us rushing the second half of the game emerged and took the wind out of our sails. I sold it promptly after one such session and never looked back.

Do you know Dark Moon? It was developped as BSG express, which is a social deduction smewhere between Resistance and BSG.

Now I can enjoy your videos without having my nose rubbed in it by BSG making a cameo in every second video. I don’t have to watch another one of your videos and say to myself…”there goes the man who is living the dream”! That being said, I’m very interested in FFG’s UNFATHOMABLE in September 2021. It’s apparently BSG Next Gen’. Although I prefer BSG’s IP, UNFATHOMABLE (Arkham Horror universe) should scratch the itch.

Love that you covered this! Well done.

Does that mean Twilight Imperium 4 is your new #1 game? Hope you get to play it with the Prophecy of Kings expansion soon.

First of all, it's fine you sold and think there are better games to play. I started playing on Vassal with a group that has close to 2k games recorded. The winrate is pretty much 42/58% human/cylon winrate. For 6 players I think Cylon Leader is fine. I'm so happy I picked up the base game with all expansions for 80€ a couple of years back (lucky I know).

I had a similar experience with Root. Great game that I love that I sold.

You want two good social deduction games? Ankh Morpork and OathBreaker. Then again you detested Rising Sun, so not sure I can trust you with these hot tips!

I backed Human Punishment the Beginning because I'm hoping for a similar experience to BSG without so much of what you were criticizing.

I sold my copy of BSG with all the expansions to a friend back before the price skyrocketed. It just stopped getting played, largely down to the long (and highly variable!) playtime and the rigid player count.

Never had a good time with it. Every game I ever played, the cylon player won with no effort whatsoever. Just back to back to back to back fights that refused to ever let up for a second and the humans basically has no chance from the start. Unfathomable is a far superior game that's way more balanced while still keeping the tension up.

can you tell us how much you sold it for?

Now that Unfathomable is available you can buy the new version of Galactica.

Funny you mentioned Dead of Winter. I will never touch that game again. In my humble opinion it was SUCH a boring game.

take a look at Human Punishment: The Beggining. it looked to me like a game which evolves BSG kind of social deduction in clever and not convoluted ways. ofc it will take a half a year until KS is delivered to people and presumably half a year more to retail, it just might be able to scratch same itch without BSG drawbacks

Does that mean that your turnaround rate will increase (getting rid of old and getting new ones) ?

I have BSG and dawn expansion (not sure about the traslation) sitting in my shelf unplayed, its been over a year and I'm thinking I might never really play it because nobody knows the theme, and it's not well suited for a full new group

I would have liked to come in with pitchforks asking "How could you" but... yeah... that list, that is why I haven't played mine in 4-5 years.

Bro you made me sad for you. The end clips killed me.

Still found a shrinkwrapped copy for 10$ so its worth it to me i think.

Might sell traitor mechanic. It's just a super unbalanced social deduction game. Allows for a lot of players but its way too easy for the traitors to win and most of the time will cut a game short in the first 5 or 10 minutes. Anyone want it XD

Did you back the kickstart for the rethemed reprint?

From the outside, having yet to play it, it sounds like nemesis is the modern version of BSG

The end of am Era. Rip 2021

The real question is: are there people who have no idea about BSG? BTW, you can tell a man of character when the have Eric's Saltie Gymnopedie as a farewell theme.

Very legit points. Still like it though. In our group humans win 90% of the games.

But it makes totally sense to sell it, because chances are high they do a new version in the next years maybe even with Kickstarter, which would lower the value of your copy.

Reminds me of playing Age of Empires 1. Had a ton of fun with it as a hit, but after the nostalgia hit it just has some serious flaws and isn't good now.

But did you sell it to a friend that lives close by or does any of your friends own it? Then IMO you really didn't get rid of if you still have access to it and can play it.

Cylons doesn't win in BSG, it's game who is winning. BSG and this type of games are just Eldritch Horror with a traitor mechanic. So, i do not see a reason to play BSG when you can play EH and will be quicker. AND you can play it with less people or even by yourself.

Human lost every time with 5 players too… but is still fun. Olay no sympathizer official rules and will be 40% for hyman and 60% for tosters. Is amazing game…. Is just maybe not your cup of tea

So sad. I would love to hear what other games you have tried in your search for the killer. I saw dead of winter crashed. Resistance? Shadows over camelot? A bunch of newer stuff I am sure have come out.

The real question is: Would you still sell it if it wasn't for the inflated price?

Yo we have community playing bsg on reg basis with all expacs. Over 2k games under our belts and winratio is 45 v 55. If interested hmu.

They...have...a...plan!

Recently sold one too, never got it to the table so I used to money to buy war of the ring.

Don't worry, there will be a new themed version soon enough that everyone can afford.

This video makes me want to sell my copy of BSG, too. Problem is, I don't have a copy. Anyone in the comments want to volunteer theirs?

This is way late. But, I think what ruined BSG for you was the expansion bloat. Think on your review of Rise of Ix. Did the expansions help BSG? Or did it just make the game more inaccessible, much longer and more random? Try the base game again. My group is always looking for a fifth as well!

I don't think I'm a hoarder but I have regretted every time that I got rid of a game I liked. Minus my munchkin....

The tears

How dare you.

I disagree with almost everything in this video. 1) Time inefficient? Maybe you are playing with people with analysis paralysis? Our games always run fairly quickly: 4-players, two hours with a ten minute break at the halfway jump point. We don't jibber-jabber or overanalyze, though. We keep it moving and tense, just as the theme would dictate. 2) We taught our preteen sons in a matter of minutes. The first game only took 30 minutes longer than all subsequent games. 3) The whole premise of the BSG universe is constant suffering, hence the constant crisis cards. 4) We have only played 4-player, so can't speak to this. By playing with 4, EVERYONE is co-op until the halfway point. That works way better than possibly having a cylon from the beginning. The sleeper agent mechanic is so well-integrated. 5) We've only had the cylon win twice in ten games. The super-cooperative nature of the humans once the cylon is revealed speaks to the theme. 6) We showed the preteens one 5-minute BSG youtube synopsis of the show to get them into the theme. Capital battles, dogfighting, intrigue, constant misery? You don't even have to watch the whole show to get it. As for the mechanics, they love Among Us and ONU Werewolf, so we knew this would be a shoo-in for them. We put on the soundtrack in the background- those "tribal" drums thumping make it an intense experience every time. We do not own ANY other board game that gives us that video-game-anxiety feel like the pressure in this game does. But to each, their own. RIP your BSG

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The big deal with resistance, is it sucks and could be played with 52 cards as card replacement. There is no game, just figuring who is who vs bsg