Totally agree. I have 4 out of my 7 luxury watches that that were compleatly satisfying and the other 3 are meh! and you know, ok. The hunt was better than the acquisition.
Whoa whoa whoa...the Kermit has the date cyclops, the other one has no date- totally different watches! (Jk, I agree the lack of self-awareness is puzzling... he was literally wearing the Kermit throughout the entire video lol)
There are two watches I will never sell; my Sub and my Speedmaster Pro. There simply are no substitutes for these two. That Tudor is really nice, I'll admit. And I'm a Tudor guy too....love my Tiger Chrono, which used to be affordable. Nothing is affordable anymore unfortunately.
The Submariner is a spectacular watch and the most sought after watch in the world for a reason. The top contender for a one watch collection. It has lived up to the hype. For me and for many other owners of this icon.
It’s like nailing a fat girl from the club. You wake up in the morning and it just was it worth it. You realize you were better off not getting it in the first place - Brandon from a watch & unwind
He's got a kermit (with date) way cooler and much rarer... why would you go back for an overpriced slightly boring generic looking businessman watch? Shame he sold the Explorer 2 though... its a gorgeous watch and no longer available in 40mm.
Well, I sold my Submariner to purchase high-end replica that is basically identical to the original, just for 1\25 in price. Is there a difference? None.
Still lost on me as to what those reasons are, it's not high horology, its ubiquitous and its a timex in a world of pateks, it's not even exciting ..I thinks its has an aspiration to be iconic ...
As always Adrian you're spot on.....I love a lot of the Rolex range.... But I can't justify either the price on the used market (which is frankly fcking ridiculous for a mass produced machine finished watch) or the wait list and stupid games to try and get one! There are so many better watches out there
Sold my Rolex which was in the shop far too often and traded it for a 2017 Omega Seamaster (basic but more expensive and barely worn with box and papers). My Rolex was a 2003.
I have owned many watches, high dollar and low dollar, I have two Rolex currently, nothing and I mean nothing compares to my Black Bay 58 in terms of fit, finish, style and every day design and comfort. I am very happy it was highlighted in this video. The 58 is the best watch I have ever had and I have had many watches in 40 years of collecting.
I could not agree more - I m building my 3 watch collection and currently have a submariner and a BB58 black dial. I cannot stress enough how beautiful the BB58 is. It has practicality similar to the submariner, but with out all the flashy marketing of the Rolex brand. Funny enough I have never gotten anyone to say 'wow that's a Tudor', but I have certainly had people ask 'what kind of watch is that...' then followed by 'that is really nice' - which I think speaks volumes to the beauty of this time piece that does not require the common person to be hyped by the brand
I've wanted to be a "one watch guy" from the very beginning, but that's kind of the problem with our modern world. Nothing ever lives up to the hype, and we're constantly inundated with new shit that makes us question the value of our old shit. I am slowly starting to realize that the hunt for a new watch is infinitely more satisfying than any watch purchase I can ever make, and to be honest, I've been wearing my Casion F-91 more than anything else lately, and am considering selling off the rest. What's the point?
I think, if you can find that balancing point... where you're interested in watches and enjoy learning... but can still keep the watch in perspective as --- at the end of the day --- a tool to tell the time ... you'll be in good shape. In my opinion, the true beauty of the watch is as a tool that you "do life with."
How are the BB58 and SMP not going to be good looking in the far future? People love vintage Tudor Snowflakes, and this Seamaster design has been in Omega's catalogue for twenty years now with no sign that it's popularity has gone down.
@@danielplainview4778 I mean, that's your opinion. Others disagree heavily. The Submariner is certainly an icon, so it will obviousy still look good in fifty years, but to say the SMP and BB58 will not full stop, despite the massive fanbases surrounding them? It's just weird to make that claim. There's room for more than one iconic diver design.
We have hunter genes in our DNA…once we get our “prey” it is no longer interesting, but rather the next prey becomes our goal…it is like that with me and watches…I stalk my prey with great attention, but once it (the watch) arrives in the mail, I sometimes don’t even open the box for several days or even weeks because I am already focused on a new and more exciting hunt. I understand what you are saying…may the hunt never end…😉
Very Interesting video. Yes the wanting is exciting then the having soon wains. Try hiding your favourite watch and then finding it again in 2 months-good feeling. Ha!
I get this way with a lot of things. Including cars. You want want want, and then you get it. And the feeling is great. Then, after a while, you feel like, ok, it's just a watch, just a car, it was fun, been there done that. It's like, "i accomplished it". Now what? It doesn't need to be owned forever, but the achievement, the chase is what was exhilarating. Then, for me, if I need money, I'd probably sell my 10k USD watch, and keep all my others. Can still enjoy the rotation and other great looking pieces. Once you've done that, you feel like, "I did it once, and I can do it again if I want to". The hunger has been sated.
I am that way with watches and with cars I’ve owned 104 cars in forty years, but I bought a 2014 Porsche 911, and I absolutely love the car due to the flat six engine and the make of the car is solid. Everything is very high quality. As for watches I will continue to buy and sell.
This video makes no sense...so you sold a vintage Sub, b/c a new Tudor that looks vintage performs better...no shit??? Just admit you're an average watch nut that flips watches...
What would’ve made this video compelling was if you only had the one Sub no date and still sold it. You made it clear that “redundancy” in your collection and the lack of “wow” factor spurred you to sell the watch. Most watch guys don’t have two Subs, let alone one.
And very very overpriced for what it offers I detest Jordan’s and same with Rolex just can’t buy one to wear but only reason I get it at msrp and only for selling later same as I would with Jordan’s
I sold my Sub date year 2014 6 months ago!! Just feel…. Is time to sell it….. While it still carry good price…. And… just feel to let it go…. But if it is GMT.. I probably will keep it
Now that it has become overpriced unobtanium it is not as cool as it was when Steve McQueen was wearing one as his daily beater watch. Who cares about something you can't buy?
If I sold watch straps for a living, I would want a Submariner in my collection to help showcase my straps. It seems like the Submariner and Speedmaster are strap selling “cheat codes” for making the straps for sale look extra photogenic.
I’ve compared my late 90s omega smp 300 (2531) to mid 2000s subs and explorer 2s, and the omega’s build quality is far better despite being almost a decade older.
Everyone seems to forget that I think. The Bond seamaster was so much better built than the subs of the day. It’s only been a little over a decade ago that most of Rolex’s lineup moved away from stamped clasps, from Jubiliees with hollow centre links. Eg, in 2007 you could have had a decade old seamaster with solid and milled everything and Rolex was still putting out jangly tinny rubbish. They paid almost no attention to anything other than the watch head. The beads of rice on that seamaster was simply superb, with its mix of brush outer links and polished beads, with every element articulating, it is still one of the most comfortable bracelets I’ve ever worn.
Logic may also say: your Kermit is a Submariner so you don’t “need” two. Haha. Jokes aside, this is exactly why I don’t own a sub: I have a Black Bay and a Batman and the aesthetics of both are far too similar to a Sub, though adjacent, for my wallet to also purchase/own a Sub. Love the idea of owning a buttery smooth swivel-y stool, however.
I love what the purpose of the GMT function..but if they only had the glide lock as a submariner I'd agree you wouldn't need it..that difference is a huge one, but I think that's why rolex didnt add such a feature to the GMT..so it wouldnt be to identical to each other..I love them both though...
I had lusted for a no date sub and when the chance to buy one new via an AD came up I didn't hesitate. What I found myself more self conscious of after is the impression the Rolex leaves. Non watch people see Rolex and think another pretentious twit. Is it in my head, probably. Either way I find myself more thoughtful of when I wear it versus either of my Omega 300M (which totally fly under scrutiny).
Sold my GMT Batman and Submariner as it’s so sad that every man and his dog is trying to buy these models and Rolex have lost their exclusivity. Have bought Breitling, Tudor and Panerai. Won’t ever wear Rolex again.
@@jiggy734 The sad thing is, the majority of the people buying them aren’t buying them because they like them, they’re buying them to flip them for profit. The real consumer then doesn’t get a chance of buying something that they love. Rolex need to overproduce all of the Professional models to kill the grey market and to stop people who flip. It’s exactly the same with Patek Philippe Aquanaut and Nautilus models.
I dunno if it’s so much they lost their exclusivity it still cost a lot of money for a Rolex and you have to save that amount of money one way or another. It’s that they don’t give a hoot about their customers, intact I’d go as far as it say it seems like they actually dislike or look down on their potential customers
@@WatchUnwind They have definitely shot themselves in the foot this time. The fact the most authorised dealers have about 10 watches or less left in their stock rather than 150 to 200 means that there is an enormous exodus of potential Rolex customers to other brands. Many dealerships are now investing huge amounts into other luxury watch brands to make up the shortfall of revenue that Rolex have created. Many sales people within the retail watch sector have also had enough of the stream of people that walk in or phone every day looking for Professional models that they can flip , it is exceptionally boring and tedious for them and for that reason many of them now refuse to wear Rolex watches because of the association . It actually lowers the perception of exclusivity. When the new Rolex factory is completed next year, Rolex should make a point of overproducing Professional models to dampen the grey market and to stop people flipping for a quick profit. It will ensure that genuine purchasers get what they want rather than opportunist flippers who have their names down at multiple AD for a range of the same watches. Just my opinion ! Many people are buying into Breitling, Omega, Panerai, IWC, to name a few, rather than Rolex. Also Rolex have stipulated that AD’s now have to display any stock that has arrived, even it is already sold, so that displays don’t look empty ( there was nothing on display ), and this has lead to dealers displaying stainless steel Professional models in their windows , which are already spoken for. They then have 50 enquiries a day from prospective window shoppers for something they cannot sell. What is the point of that ? It just pisses people off .
Thanks for that video! Couldn't agree more! Around 10 years ago, you could buy the Rolex Sport Watches with appropriate discount and that was okay. Nobody wanted to spend more than about 5 to 5.5k Euros for a regular Sub or even a GMT or DJ. But was going on today is insane! The explosion of prices on the grey market are a result of stupid money in our young society and the hype on "social" channels. I don't want to be part of this anymore, because this doesn't have to do anything with my love to watches and my enthusiasm with that kind of hobby. Therefore, I fully understand your point in the video!
I have a Tudor Black Bay 58 and its by FAR the most excitement I have ever felt about a watch. I drove 2hrs to get it and it was such a rush almost like I couldn't get my hands on it fast enough. Its sitting on my wrist while typing this and I am still excited about it. To be honest the Daytona is the only Rolex I want but it retails for 15k (Unavailable) and I am exactly middle class so that would be crazy for me to even try to pull. I guess what I am saying is Rolex is not the only game in town anymore and to be honest some of their watches are ugly plain and simple . Find a watch that excites you and that's the direction to head in my opinion.
I agree. I find Rolexes are mostly a status symbol, and of course no bad quality, but you can get better quality for that money. I don’t need a status symbol.
Selling my 14060m 4 Liner while paying for home renovations is still one of my biggest regrets in life. I wish i just took on the debt. The 14060m 4 Liner is still my favorite watch of all time.
Loving your videos, but I find it unfair to compare a 20 year old sub with a brand new black bay. The modern sub has come a long way in the last 5-10 years, solid links, longer power reserve, better movement, new bezel…. I love my sub and personally would never consider changing it for anything. No other what in the world is a iconic and timeless, which is why I chose it. I recently added a 41 date just oyster with silver dial to my collection and feel at ease. Will I by Rolex in the future? Most likely not. My AD bought brand new date just cost even a bit more, then my sub date did when bought at an AD brand new 5 years ago. I love Rolex, but will not support their ride, trying eventually to price themselves, on level with Patek Philippe or AP, while trying to place Tudor at the current Rolex price level. I been blessed having had the chance to buy my dream Rolexes brand new from ADs with ease, but symphysis with the people struggling to buy their watch, due to shortages or difficulties connecting to a SA. Or with those trying to save up to buy a Rolex. With the speed the price goes up, my sub date new from AD today costs 30% more then 5 years ago, impossible for most to keep up with saving wise. Anyway, once again I’m a big fan of your program and work, so I’m no way form or shape unhappy, just felt I wanted to share my point of view. Keep up the good work!
I often think the only reason I want a Rolex is because I can't walk into a store and look at one. If I could pop in to my AD every couple of months and try on a Daytona or GMT I don't think I'd have such a strong desire to own one.
It also works the other way, I tried a BB58 on my wrist and it did nothing to me. Too small and hated the snowflake hand. So I got that desire out of my system and never looked back at one of those again.
Don’t think too much. Many things are obvious. People want Rolex because they want the path of least resistance in their life. Same thing as people want to go to Harvard. Not because they are good or bad but because they are proven path of least resistance.
It’a called FOMO. Fear Of Missing Out. And when spending so much money, you don’t want to lose anything after purchase. That’s what makes the Rolex desirable.
Nailed it with this one. In 2019 I had fully come to terms with spending nearly 7 grand on a 14060m, cash saved and all - before I tried the BB58. I looked for every possible reason that I should buy the Rolex, tried to convince myself for weeks, but once I'd worn the BB58 I literally couldn't bring myself to do it. I've had the BB58 on my wrist every day since with not a single regret 2 years later, I genuinely can't see me ever parting with it :)
@@juniorjohnson5961 I have it in black . It’s a great watch I wear all the time. I had originally wanted a Rolex and haven’t been sorry I bought the bb58 instead I also bought an Omega Seamaster and still had money left over.
Excellent choice, I too was looking for a no date Sub, but got the Tudor Black Bay Black after seeing it compared with the Ref.5510 Sub from the '50s, it's almost identical!
Adrian, you deny that money is the consideration but money is the consideration man. There are people that own collections of Rolex sub's, all variants. Rolex sub's are a decent investment in fact. They don't lose money like other watches. Are are trying to be a watch collector on a shoe string budget or you would own five Rolexes and five of everything else that matters in the watch world. You sold the sub because of money and no other reason. Nobody puts a cap on how many watches a person owns. The Sub you sold was beautiful. Some would 'vastly' prefer it to a Tudor BB58.
The truth must be said… Rolex is not always the best choice. Sure resale is awesome,but that is not the only reason to buy something. I prefer Tudor, even if money was no object. 😅 (uh oh… I’m on record saying this😳)
Same here. It has met all expectations of iconic design. I'm not scared to wear it, anywhere. These watches aren't for everybody, but if you can own the watch and not let the watch own you, you're golden.
The more I’m fooling around to build my watch collection, the more I think I will end up with a 3 watches collection, 3 Tudor: The BB58, the BB36 and the 1926. Period. 🤔😎 ... and I can’t agree more: Buying your Grail watch just kills the journey. 😩
Watches are just symbols of the personality of the person wearing them. If you think Tudor is a "better" watch than a Sub, whether it is or not is irrelevant. It just tells your philosophy to the stranger who sees it on your wrist without having to speak a word. This is why I can't wear my AP's anymore. Wouldn't want to look like a crypto trader/commercial real estate agent now, would I.
Looks like someone is having money problems.....first Adrian sold his soul and now he has sold his Rolex....and he thinks we are foolish enough to believe that Tudor is really better than Rolex ...... Hahahaha.....Jokes !!!!!!
I have a GMT II that I purchased in 1996. Back then I paid around $4.000 for it. Now it sells for over $10.000 and quite honestly it doesn't worth it. But, the biggest concern at this stage is that this kind of watch is now very often stolen through violent robberies and I really do not enjoy this feeling of fear when I wear it. So, overall I will not sell it because I don't need to and it's still a good memory, but I wear it not so frequently. Clearly, not so well known brands are better for me at this stage
This is exactly my issue with wearing an expensive watch. I can easily afford one but then if I wear it I become a robbery magnet. I don't need that kind of attention and to be honest I want to wear the watch that I like. It gives me pleasure to see it on my wrist vs in a display case. I buy them for me to enjoy and not as a pure investment.
As a watch enthusiast and collector, I feel that Rolex is ubiquitous. It’s not really high horology. One could argue that with price inflation on the secondary market, they’re quite overvalued. Undoubtedly, a great investment, however, it’s not only value retention or appreciation that ignite my passion for the hobby. My Grand Seikos, Nomos, Sinn and Zenith watches provide far more pleasure. My Rolex watches get far less wrist time. It’s a difficult concept to grasp if you’ve never owned a Rolex and it’s your aspirational timepiece.
Just my perception, but a Rolex is a "look at me" watch, while the others you mention (and, others, such as Glashutte Original), are about the watch itself.
@Nigel Molesworth Well… it was either this or being labeled as a jealous Rolex hater that can’t afford to buy one 😂 . FWIW I usually wear a Marathon or Damasko as a daily. Apologies for insulting your delicate sensibilities mate..😀
What a plonker for selling it, had my GMT Master II from 2010, wouldn't down grade it to an Omega or a packet of Tudor... Comparing a Tudor to a Rolex Submariner is like comparing a Porsche to a Ford Focus. Rolex quality is far superior, you don't know what you are talking about....
Rolex is overrated. Jaeger Lecoutre is such a superb watch maker and attainable. I don’t know how Rolex justify their pricing and the grey market. I will focus on JLC, IWC and Grand Seiko
Quite often there is an anti climax upon receiving the watch. Especially, so when one is buying from the web without having tried it on. Still, you bought and sold perfectly. There’s just way too much hype around it and while I still feel there is more growth to be had - this cannot and will not go forever. Indeed, timing the market would be a bad idea - if it’s not enjoyable - correct decision to cash in!
Then again, Adrian clearly does favor the shape and size of the old cases, as do I. But i guess it’s ok if you got them at retail back in the day but it’s a tough pill to swallow, if your paying current prices for an “inferior” watch. I too, am considering a 14060 or 16710 GMT, but i’m having trouble justifying either.
@@SaintWill70 i guess, I’ll find out how i feel about it if / when i get it. I ordered the green one, just after it’s release in 2021😃 i still feel that the older ones have more charm, but I’m not spending around 20k for an old Kermit. Suddently 13k for the 16710 GMT sounds a lot better😄
Just bought the Tudor BB58 blue version. I never liked Tudor because of the history of a younger brother or sister of Rolex, or "poor mans Rolex" I went and bought it at an AD, because they had one that came day before from Tudor. I tried it and it was love at first sight. Man this watch after some days on my wrist is a match made in heaven! It is an incredible watch and 39mm fits perfect for me. It is well build and the braclet is someting very special. I am more Omega guy, and own Omega speedmaster moonewatch and the seamaster 300. I still dream of completing my Watch collection with a rolex, but for now Tudor bb58 is not rushing me to buy a Rolex because its just perfect.
Sounds like you have a great collection Miki. You will get a roles when you get one. Omega is an awesome brand honestly stick with that if that’s what you like
Sold my Sub for a Brand New Snowflake plus a chunk of change, with which i purchased a New Omega Moon watch and had some cash left over! I do from time to time miss my Sub But then I slap on the Snowflake or the Omega and all that disappears. In reality the SUB is a $5-6,000 watch in quality. The Snowflake with the Springdrive is in my opinion a $10,000 watch for $5,800.
Just picked up my new sub (no date)…also owning a bb58 and there is no way the bb58 is far superior watch over the sub..you compare a vintage watch with a considerably brand new one with new features..first with the Tudor I can’t get the perfect fit bc of the lack of adjustment..that’s not the case with the sub 41 the finishing also on a different level..just my two cents
Instead of à used sub in aluminium bezel I would choose the équivalent seadweller: much much more personality and idéal size today (was big & thick in the 2000s but perfect today).
But is it worth taking into consideration that the sub you had was from 2004 and the omega and tudor are much newer so they will probably be better quality and more up to date. Sorry for a little disagreement, I got a sub date all black from 2014 last year in July and I absolutely love it, I think its such a beautiful watch , super clean and I wasn't bothered about the buying experience, I actually collected it from a guy who had it on ebay. (Don't worry its checked and fine) but its my favourite thing I own. I think its personal preference but I understand alot of "famous" people or social media influencers just by things , ie watches for the buying process and video unfortunately:(
Of course it’s all personal preference. I have a 2004 Sub (16610) I bought new, I tried on and had the chance to buy the next model (116610) but the proportions are all wrong, the lugs, shoulders and bracelet doesn’t flow. This is why the latest sub has had its lug to lug width increased, to reduce those shoulders.
Yes. That is why I sold my sub. The fat lugs and skinny bracelet was unacceptable to me, especially when the new model came out, which now I can't get it of course.
It’s interesting as I prefer the maxi case sub date ceramic to all the other subs because it is so proportionally different to the older and latest submariner. Feels unique and to my mind looks better for it. Each to their own, just interesting to hear other people’s views.
I'm agree with you Danza, You're very right! this are personal choices, I had a Sub 2005 and sell it, then, I missed so much. So I bought a 2013 Sub date, I couldn't be happier, stronger builded. Love it and wearing just right now. There's a huge difference on built between this 2 Subs, 5 or 6 number's reference.
A watch lover could agree but an investor will definitely not. Come back in 10 years and see what the value of your Sub will be by then. I am highlighting this because almost every single Rolex owner I meet nowadays is an investor and not a watch geek. 🤷🏻♂️ Such a pity..
Do we want a Rolex because we want other people to know we've made it or do we want a Rolex because of its horological significance? I know the Rolex is inferior to other watches half the price so maybe I want it to show others I've made it, and I suppose myself too. I know from buying other luxury or expensive items I feel a bit deflated after purchasing. I do know that if I bought the BB58 I would still want the Rolex and if I'm dropping a few grand on a watch I want people to know I did, which is also why I'll never buy a Twodoor, nobody knows what it is outside of watch enthusiast's.
I feel increasingly that this channel is producing short video essays on watch collecting, and I think it's offering something smart and different. It seems pretty influential too; Adrian really knows how to initiate a talking point. You see it ripple across RU-vid. And beyond: I went to my watch dealer the other day, and he's talking about watch companies and social media, playing over the talking points from the other week's video, and - when I went back - hiring photographers to do his social media. There's lots of other channels I go to to perv on watches; this is one of the best for thinking about watches and watch collecting. The Bark and Jack straps are top drawer too. Thanks and all the best.
I just love the way Adrian sticks to his inner gut principles. Tudor has caught up and making its mark in the world…👍 although a well made watch brand I can’t justify the hype and ridiculous premium grey market prices of rolex. Keep up the good work Adrian 👍
This is 100% true and no question about it: you are buying Tudor if you cannot afford Rolex. In the last 6 months I was 4 or 5 times at the different Tudor dealer to buy a watch, and each time I did not buy at glance i always reserved one for a day - came the other day and say no, this is pointless - I want to buy Rolex, beacuse (Tudor) is... to be true, a cheap counterfeit (eg. alu bezel, eta or breitling work no real history no real heritage, just a great pretender ). If you like Rolex never buy a Tudor. If you like Tudor buy an Omega. Of course you can always lie to yourself buying ...Tudor.
This video shows what happens when you dwell and think, and have too much time to think and rethink and think so more. To sell a 14060 for a Tudor.... come on. Buy a watch and wear the damned thing. So many people with this mentality or fretting and planning their 'collection' makes me hate watches sometimes.
You are not only a great reviewer but an intelligent buyer. Personally, I just don´t like the Rolex submariner anymore as a lot of well known brands like Seiko, Invicta and many others have come with similar watches making the submariner less appealing. I own a Tudor BB 58 and a GMT and will never..never swap them for a Rolex. Now, I´m still looking to replenish my stolen steel datejust which I miss but I know at some point the Rolex scarcity and hype will subdue and it will be as available as a swatch (hopefully).
I sold my Sub LV (Hulk) because I am an enthusiast! And it is not mainly worn by connoisseurs but by people who want to be recognized with the aura of the brand. I got fed up with everything around and with Rolex. I no longer recognize myself in it, and no longer wanted to be part of the herd. Whether we like it or not, we are identified as such. Thanks to the profit, it is appreciable it is true, I was able to have a VC, much less copied and recognized, and from a watchmaking point of view even higher level. Goodbye the crown, no regrets!
Cannot wait for Rolex “bubble” to burst... More sellers than those who want to buy this dated, deadbeat design, overvalued watch.... do not care for any Rolex watch - if I had one - would gladly trade for anything else.
People who say that about Tudor just want to justify getting robbed by Rolex with a high price tag when a better watch for much less exists 🤣. Like those Nato straps. What's the brand?
Not a bad decision since you already own the Kermit. If you didn't own it then I would have definitely held on to the Sub. I think the BB is nice, but it doesn't come close to replacing the Sub imo.
Great video. I have a BB41 heritage (larger wrist) inbound for just this reason. You could say I sidestepped your situation by never buying the Rolex in the first place. While I do like that older Sub model, I really would rather have my 3 Omegas and 2 Tudors than anything in Rolex's lineup.
Ok we’re talking a low end watch here but for me it was the Seiko Arnie. I’m a huge Arnie fan, I grew up watching his films as a child. When other kids were raving about The Lion King I was talking about how awesome Predator was! To a child he’s literally an action figure brought to life. Bought the Seiko Arnie without seeing it and boy was I shocked by how poor the build quality was. It wasn’t even worth keeping as a novelty piece of memorabilia, don’t see the point of having £400 sitting in the watch box for no reason.
It's just fun seeing your collection evolving and how your taste evolve together. I only own one watch I consider a true watch: SPB101J1. I love it, but I want more now.
I had the same feelings about my new 2021 Omega Speedmaster Moon Watch. I have wanted a Moon Watch since I was a kid, and with the new update, it seemed like the perfect time to finally pull the trigger. I liked it in the store, and I liked it at home, but something was missing. It took a few weeks until I realized that there was nothing wrong with the watch; it was exactly what I had always wanted, and even better. It was me that changed. My watch collection and preferences had changed over the years, and the Moon Watch no longer fit, with me. Great video
I love the omega Skywalker. I like and prefer omega over rolex. Haven't pulled the trigger on buying a omega yet. Since they are more expensive they'll have to wait. Right now im collecting Sinn and Dekla watches which imo are more practical and provides a good balance between luxury and usability.
I understand your view Adrian and it probably made 'sense' when you sold it, but in my humble opinion the 14060m is the perfect Rolex. You sold the perfect Rolex for a good Tudor and a Speedy. And your argument that Tudor has a far superior finish is complete BS, it's not far superior, it's simillar; the only thing far superior are the Rolex estetics. Also how come an 80's Rolex with a worse finish is worth more than a brand new one? Your arguments are complete shit and time will tell. For me the 14060m made me a one watch guy. I consider it the perfect ballance between herritage, size, quality, looks and price.
I love my no date sub, but I rarely wear it in public. Despite what people say, it does come with baggage, even if it’s mostly created in our own heads.
Another great video Adrian, I can relate to this also , the Rolex submariner had it , it did nothing for me, sold it & got the same two as you ages ago. Awesome watches . Keep up the good work. Wills
Back in about 2000, I thought I wanted a dive watch. I like the vintage style and traded for an early 80s Tudor Submariner with an acrylic crystal. It looked great, exactly the look I was striving for. I really like the look of a domed acrylic crystal. I bought a shark skin custom strap for it and then, I didn't wear it. It was too thick and bulky for me and didn't do anything for me emotionally. I was able to sell it quickly. Great watch, just not for me.
Great video. I wanted a five digit Sub for years but could not afford one when they were new. While I could afford a five digit Sub today, I chose to purchase a new Tudor BB58 black dial instead. To me, the Tudor feels more like the way a Submariner should look than the current six digit Sub. The only thing I disagree with you is I believe the Tudor is timeless and will still look spectacular in the future. And yes, for many people, the hunt is more fun than the watch itself. These watches get so hyped online that reality often has a difficult time keeping up with the hype. I do love the Tudor, though!
I agree with you that I think the BB58 will become a classic, It's such an elegant watch. I got myself the 925 with the open back. I bought it for two reasons, it was the style of dive watch i was after - not shiny having a brushed metal look and the exhibition case as i've never owned one. And then when i found out it was pure silver or 92.5% I was like WOW. I didn't know much about Tudor at the time but am beginning to realise that this is a brand that now stands in a league of it's own. I see it more as the bad boy of the Rolex family, doing things different in ways no one else would dare and pulls it off majestically.
As a longtime Seiko owner (still) I lusted after a Spring Drive Grand Seiko. I sold some limited edition pieces to finally get a SBGA083 and when I finally got it, I still wore my Tudor Black Bay 79220R far more often and the GS just sat in the box looking pretty. It never really did much for me and I ended up selling it.
Thank you for yet another great video! I think it’s an important point to be made, sadly a lot of collectors now a days focus more on brand and status rather than actual quality. Resell value has also taken point over actual, genuine enjoyment.
More and more RU-vidrs are releasing vids on why Rolex ISN’T the height of horology… It’s refreshing. I think Rolex make some fantastic watches but they’re a brand synonymous with snobbery and elitism which is a shame. Ignorance in the hobby has put the brand on a pedestal and having “watch enthusiasts” saying Tudor is a poor mans Rolex is exactly what is wrong with the watch world today. It’s becoming a brand that leaves a sour taste in the mouth, just like TAG and Hublot.
I fully agree. After waiting several years to buy a Rolex to commemorate special events in my life, I gave up and bought other brands. Hopefully your and my sentiments will continue to grow in the market place until it becomes a tsunami. I like Rolex, but keeping steel models unavailable is not a great long-term strategy to grow its customer base without a serious customer backlash.
@@dannysimenauer5745 Its not even customer backlash, they are leaving money on the table. They could make more and still command near to what they sell MSRP, I think Rolex is in love with itself and restricting supply of the SS sub models is a form of commercial narcissism.
I totally understand your mindset. I have had the 58 for some years now and absolutely love it. Now i can afford the sub but,,,,,,,,,,,, why!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Well said.
I want a submariner, it’s my perfect watch. I would wear it all the time, to work, freetime, special occasion, fixing the car, working around the yard…whatever, whenever. But I can’t get one from the AD, and I refuse to buy one from the grey market. So, in other words I might never get one. This seems to be the reality of Rolex these days, and It’s total BS. I guess I’ll stick with my old Seiko
