@@JakeWeisler Agreed. Just like cars. I've tried all kinds and have preferences but people miss out when they only buy one brand rather than find what works best for them.
I shot on FX6/FX3 cameras always in Cine EI mode for all projects with no exception. From documentaries to commercials and even in challenging shooting environments like events. Not only Cine EI maximize all the sensor capabilities like dynamic range and signal-to-noise ratio, it really helps maintain consistency in color and exposure settings across different scenes or shooting conditions, which is especially useful for projects with multiple shooting days or locations. With the low and high base ISO (800/12800) of Cine EI, the only thing you need is to use VND to control the light at all times and fast lenses to expose properly in low light. Works perfectly in any situation, image is always super clean that way. You don’t even need to overexpose in most cases. Only downside of Sony footage is that I find it sometimes a bit too sharp, the G Master lenses, which are great for AF, doesn’t help in that regard. But for solo operation they’re still your best bet. Cinema lenses like the Cooke SP3 makes a substantial difference though. Other than that, Sony’s Cinema Line cameras are truly amazing.
Thats funny you said how we all started on a camera brand. I knew nothing about photography. My wife and I just had our twin boys and wanted to take pics of the 10 years ago. We saw a nice little red Nikon D3300 and bought that. Next thing you know I fell in love with photography and upgraded to a D7100, then D600, then D750. Almost switch to Sony to get the A7iii but I was already havliy invested in lenses. So I stayed. Now I own a Z6, Z6ii, and Z8. All my friends have all different brands and they all are great cameras. Its how you use them.
I use to own Canon gear too, but when the sony a7iii was released i made the switch. It was the fact it made my job easier. I think Canon as a brand is still great. Especially for stills. However, they haven’t done much to innovate the video side for there ecosystem. Sony offers so many solutions for creators. Plus having access to third party lenses makes the barrier of entry easier for beginners.
I totally understand this. Only reason i stick with panasonic/lumix (from gh5 to lumix s5ii & s5iix) is only because of the IBIS. Colours can be manipulated either way. I dont care about autofocus and crop sensor on 4k 50/60fps hahaha my wedding shooting style is 95% handheld 😁 Just my 2 cents.
I also started with a Canon, but it was a SL3 ahah. Loved that camera, learnt all of the basic stuff with it but the time came for me to grow up. After asking all the professionals arround, everyone told me to switch to Sony while I was “just getting started”. Bought a Sony A7IV and I couldn’t be more proud of my decision. That camera is a beast and Sony keeps making great gear along the year! Looking forward to see some of your work with the FX3, Jake! 🫶
I'm looking to get into a Sony platform for the same reasons. I'm coming from a Blackmagic platform, but I definately would not sell off my current setup, only add a Sony to it because they complement each other and don't overlap.
Canon is sharp with the r5c(terrible battery life) and r3 but they dropped the ball by not making a R3C. The R3 is very good in lowlight and 6K downsample. The battery life is also great.
Sony low light performance is no joke. my A7iv can shoot at well over 100k ISO and still be 'saved' in post. not only can it be recovered, it still manages to look decent.
Any love for black magic cameras? I am getting distracted by the 6k g2 - currently using the R7 & R8 with the 3 main RF 2.8 glasses, but I love coloring in resolve and am intersted in Braw with the blackmagic look. I was recording a podcast and needed the autofocus, but now am transitioning to more creative/narrative work. Thanks for the vid, great explanation on your thought process. PS - full frame is amazing in smaller spaces as well, and can really help to get good framing with the ability to be so much wider - it just opens up additional options, which is why the R8 has been a great companion to the R7.
I still shoot Canon for stills, but I’ve moved to Panasonic for video. (S5ii). My reasons were no limits (codecs, time limits) and increased dynamic range. Panasonic is made for video. They don’t hold anything back. Real time LUT support, shutter angle, etc … I love it. I understand the reinvigoration from a new tool Jake.
Started on Lumix Micro Four Thirds (which what Jake said actually is quite true, I've stuck with them since) and funnily enough, it actually helped with learning to manual focus because the AF was so poop. And now, Lumix from the S5 II is arguably in the top 3 AF systems. Turned into a long-term win-win.
Been following you and the FTF team from the beginning. Learned a great deal from you guys, and made the switch from Fuji to Sony when FX3 dropped. Everything you said about loving the sharpness is the #1 reason I will tell you, go grab the A1 (or at least rent and try it). I still love the FX3 for lowlight of course and long form interviews etc (anything that needs a fan) but still the A1 image rendering and sharpness... it's the one time I've felt like a gear purchase significantly impacted my work, and that was 3 years ago. Keep up the great work man!
I soot on a Canon T7i my first camera, its APSC and Ive had it last 5 years, that camera has been with me since coollege and i sterted to use it seriously about 2 years ago, but I started to think i have to change it, because i want a camera that can handle higher ISOs and keep or improve the auto focus My first option was a Lumix camera, just to keep the lenses Ive bought last 2 years but the autofocus is awful. That"s why i want a sony camera, not a expensive one, i think about a 6400, 6600 or a ZVE10
Canon has been great for me in filming weddings and some other projects but I have been needing more. In my opinion, the color science is really good and it takes great photos and video, However, Canon purposely holding back certain features and lacking in video features versus Sony has really made me looking to switch very soon. Oh, and don't get me started on their rf lens selection, their price, and 3rd party blocking. Sony is better in low light, has better video features, more picture profiles like S-Cinetone which has been godly convenient in some of my work, and more lens selections from different brands and they are all great. Don't get me wrong they both still have their own downsides but in my opinion the downsides on the Sony outweighs the Canons. Plus, around my area there are much more Sony videographers than Canon and it would be easier to work with those people when I need a second cam op or just to rent gear. Canon has been making small moves but I think it is too late now with what Sony has been offering. They should have listened to their customer fan base like Sony has been doing. I'm like Jake also, being in the Canon family has really bored me and my excitement has dimished but using something new like the Sony has made me more creative and pushed me to try new things.
I would love to know how and what you film at these live events. I know it's not related to weddings at all, but I'm getting more interested in the commercial side, keynotes, conferences etc and would love to know more about what that looks like from a business standpoint too.
Red shooter, I am on the fence about getting FX6, or the Ronin 4d flex for a secondary. Canon isn’t a professional option for filmmaking. If I see a canon on set, it immediately feels suspect . Also, talking about “bokeh” Bruh, GLASS. Full frame isn’t that big of a deal. My favorite camera I’ve ever shot on has always been Arri Alexa mini. Yeah LF is great, but theres no fuckinh way in hell I would shoot Fx3 over Alexa. I guess it all comes down to what you shoot and how you light your sets. Blue ruin was shot a shitty Canon C200, so hey, whatever gets the job done
I live in Iran. a9iii is 370.000.000. with the lens (35mm f1.4 by the way) and 180gb cfa became 0.5 billion. I barrowed almost the entire money and I got it. global shutter makes a real difference and I hate photography but I am excited to take photos. my camera's on the way. I am trying to make some to get the nisi swift true color system with mist and IR pollution. it was encouraging to see you talk about this.
The live event footage you show in this video looks CLEAN! I know your niche is wedding but I'd LOVE to learn more about how you plan shots for live events and speakers. Do you speak with anyone for permission to be on stage? Do you ask the speakers to hop on stage or backstage with you for certain shots? How do you get the crowd involved in shots. What sort of lenses do you have prepped for filming the speakers from nearby and far away? I don't need sleep, I need answers! 🤘🏻
I started on Nikon years ago, I made the switch to micro four thirds for awhile to keep price and lens size down and was an Olympus fan boy for years. Recently I have been falling back to Nikon with the Z5. I may be selling out all of my Olympus gear to purchase the Nikon ZF. Still haven't been able to let go of the Olympus yet. It's hard to let go lol 😅
I was given an old Canon DSLR and stuck with the EF mount and now I am eye balling the A6400 because Sony bodies are just a better buy for stills and a EF to E adapter will do for my old lenses.
All just tools at the end of the day, but use the tool that gives you satisfaction and the client the results they’re looking for. I don’t want to ever be loyal to a brand, especially with adapters making it easy to be versatile with the camera you use, but so far Sony has been killing it for what I need/want so I’m definitely gonna stick with them for awhile. Can’t wait to see more content from you, I’m definitely loving these videos from you 🙌
98% time spent crafting the perfect lighting for the scene 2% time spent securing that lav - ha, ha - love your style Jake - the fact it sounds perfect tells me it was the care free aesthetic you were driving for - 100% achieved.
One of your fans From Tanzania Africa. I have been trying into getting to film world and your classes from Tomorrow's filmaker made me want to learn More, i have been shooting R8 but thinking of Sony 😂😂😂. Wish to see more vids From you. Nice video
I started on my buddy's Sony A6000, and when doing research, I heard the Canon 80D was the best camera for weddings (then I learned about the Panasonic GH5). I upgraded to the R6 in 2021, and bought a second one in 2022, and after 3 years of filming with it, I feel like feeling like I'm mastering the colors and exposure, and the dynamic range isn't good enough for the image I'm trying to achieve, Clog3 sucks, the low light sucks, you can't use the screen and external monitor and record to card all at the same time (only R5/R6 hybrid cams), and there's some other rigging things that just don't work well for my style.
now currently using the r10 to shoot weddings, it's great actually, though not as sharp as sony, but still good, maybe I'll get the a6700 but the r8 is better in low light, and it's full frame. hmm
You would shoot in log for the best dynamic range and with the FX3, you can get a clean output at iso 12,800 so it's amazing in low light. The times you might NOT want to use log is if you just want a quick turn around and don't want to bother with colourgrading.
Shooting in log format is generally recommended for cameras that can record at least 10-bit color depth because it provides more color information, which is beneficial for post-processing and color grading. The Sony a7III, however, records video in 8-bit, which limits the color information captured.
I’m using the Canon R5C with the 50mm 1.2 and it’s really sharp. Also video quality it’s insane. Besides battery life I can’t find any problems with this camera a true hybrid camera…. But I won judge you because Sony it’s really good for video recording
I’m a canon guy and won’t see that changing anytime ever. But I friend of mine and I have always enjoyed the video quality that Sony puts out. I’m not expert but if you’re solely, or primarily focused on video then Sony might be your best option. I still enjoy my canon camera for photo and video and I think they just give me the best of both worlds for what I do. But, can’t knock you at all man, enjoy the new gear!
I see a lot of people shooting in LOG, but REC709 seems to compete closely, especially in dynamic range. Could you explain the real advantages of using LOG? Is the extra post-production effort worth it? Thanks!
Log is definitely worth it. Better dynamic range, better lowlight (dual native iso values change between s log 3 and other picture profiles on sony) and more flexibility w final image (not shooting in log bakes colors, contrast, everything into image).
@@JakeWeisler I'm eager to see this video because, from my perspective, I really can't spot any difference in dynamic range or low-light performance between LOG and REC709. Maybe there's a slight improvement, but it seems like it's mostly for those who are pixel-peeping. Looking forward to your insights
I recently bought the ZV-E!, but I'm a canon guy. It's FX3 type quality but on a budget lol. I suppose if I would have done a little more research I would have bought the a7IV as it has slightly more DR then the ZV-E1/FX3 and its over sampled and sharper. But also it's a kick arse photo cam. It just seems like the value king. But I use r6 for images and I don't think the a7IV is any better then my current setup. I think the r5ii is going to be a game changer
I owned Canon system at first, then went with Nikon, then with Fujifilm, and now I'm with Sony. I think Sony seems to be the most innovative. Without Sony bringing mirrorless full frame to the mass market, Canon and Nikon would still be making DSLRs
you explanation is understandable, Did you ever consider the R5C before switching to sony? And you right C70 is a bit softer but true cinema images are mainly soft and plesant, R5C def had been a good choice for your eco system cause its pretty sharp and its fullframe
Canon's shortcoming is because it does not produce lenses that are light and affordable at an affordable price, like Sigma Tamron and other brands. Canon has this deficiency when it comes to missing lenses.
Exactly… FF, S35 AND S16 options.. built in raw.. false color and shutter angle. This is an engagement grab, just like all of the “I switched” videos. To each his own though, use what you like and create. At least this statement made sense. Someone in another comment said Sony is more tuned to video than Red. Bro, please.
I’m actually in a similar dilemma. I shoot canon for photos but I recently moved to Lumix for video. I would obviously like to have one brand for everything but for me, I love canon when it comes to photos. I’m not at the point yet where I feel like getting a fx3 would make sense. So far, I love my s5ii and I’m thinking about getting the IX next.
@@hawkboy000 Yea the original S5 has horrible autofocus. So I wanted another b cam with updated specs and technology. Plus I bought some Sirui cinema lenses and they are made for micro four thirds cameras. And the G9ii can do 4K 120 with no crop
Thanks, just the argument being bored a little bit with Canon can push me to Sony too. Haha, I'll just wait a few months to see what canon will offer to make the best decision.
If Sony is the right tool for the job, then it's the right tool for you. I do think that switching things up from time to time is good to keep things fresh and exciting. I believe that if you have a system that already works amazingly well and makes things 'boring,' that means you've reached the prime optimization for your setup. Now, you should just remain focused on building your business and improving in other areas besides the gear you have. That's just my two cents, but great video. Honestly, videos like these can help brands stay honest and acknowledge what users want versus what they think is best for us. The R5C was meant to compete against the FX3, and in my opinion, it was a total failure.
The only reason I have some loyalty to sony is because my film college made us learn on sony and red. And that's what I have my hand set on. Over time, whenever I rented out a similar priced canon camera to the sony one I was using, I felt hamstrung. That's all it takes for brand loyalty.
I’m not going to throw dirt at Canon! I started shooting with Canon and still shoot with the C70 for corporate but in the wedding space Sony rules that market. I shoot weddings with 3 FX3s when it comes to weddings Sony gives you more but that’s just my personal opinion! Welcome to the Sony Gang 🤘🏼🙌🏼💪🏼
Damn every famous youtuber are using Sony now. That's why Sony camera is more expensive, and lack of firmware update, Less feature compare to other brand's offering. Other brands need to work hard to announce something really wow, so Sony would feel the competition in order to bring more to us.
You didn't consider the Panasonic/Lumix (L-mount) like the s5ii or s5iix? L mount alliance will pay off too, with DJI, BlackMagic and Sigma in the same group. but i guess everyone always debated between Canon and Sony, end of the day its the user, people these days are caught up following people based on what they see/hear, I like Panasonics, natural colour science and video centric features and tools it has, it's not even a cineline camera, but competes highly with FX3, since we have Opengate, shutter angle (which sony will release for fx3 soon), wave forms, vector scopes, it seems Panasonic have always focused on videographers mostly, It just the AF and low light in sony that people mostly want i guess.
i switched from sony to panasonic and couldnt be happier. The s5iix is a goddamn beast of a camera. It brought back the love as it was getting a little stale for me with the clinical look of sony cameras.
@@madmancasacreativa3 happy to hear that, I’ve got the s5iix and a gh6, and I’m fair have used canon and Sony, and I just find Panasonic to have always given us the video tools we needed, now s5ii and s5iix the AF is much much better and they even gave us the best firmware update last week so I’m very happy!
@@JakeWeisler that Sony is more optimized for video??? Than red? HA! External raw, no false color, goo scope, no shutter angle.. but Sony feels more optimized to video? You’re not even a fanboy at this point, you’re a glazer.
@@ItsBerg wtf are you are talking about my guy. I’m a wedding videographer. It’s more optimized for MY PROCESS as a live event videographer. No DUH that RED reigns supreme, that’s an absolute given. But you’d be foolish to not say that every camera has pros and cons, and that the RED has cons that the SONY doesn’t and vice versa. Relax, don’t be so triggered so easily.
you want auto focus handheld crazy looking 120 fps commercial stuff get an a9iii people hire you just for that. they take you on. people don't hire here but as soon as word got out that my camera's on the way I started getting calls. your camera talks not that it matters.
I have to agree! As a professional photographer for over 30 years, I also switched to Sony. I never liked Canon because of the green tinge from their lenses. Sony is on the leading edge of photography, and the lenses are incredible! I'm not bashing Canon, but they are far behind the leading edge. I think you made a good choice.
I shoot on both. But every time I shoot with Sony I come home and cry over color science. Then I shoot with Canon and come back and cry over shitty lowlight performance and weird auto focus. Bottom line is, I can fix that color but that Low light and AF... Nah. Sony for the win.
Oh interesting! What Sony? I feel like before the A74, you’re right - Sony had a very annoying color science that was hard to fix. But ever since the A74 they’ve don’t an incredible job
I don't trust on people who switch band and make video about switching I thing sony provide free camera or discount for creators for making this type of video film making and cinematography is art its not about camera brand
Honestly neither is better then each other they both have their strengths and you really can’t compare just depends what kind of shooter you are tbh I’ve used both systems and both work just fine to me something that I love is internal nds tho gotta have that but not gonna lie we all know Sony is the king of low light but outside of that idk they both got pros and cons
I doubt you will produce better videos with Sony. I’m studying shooting braw this year (s5iix gh6 and Blackmagic micro g2 for Fpv) . It’ll make me feel more pro lol
A7siii was released in 2020 and I swore it had better image then anything else on the market. Here we are in 2024 and it still has the best image period. Yes, it includes Blackmagic cameras too.
@@ItsBerg dont be triggered if you have brand loyalty. I truely believe image is better, and i didnt say colors. Image involves many other variables and yes being able to shoot proresraw does give you all the colors too. if you know what you are doing of course.
@@JakeWeisler I’d rather have real discourse but I couldn’t help but be snarky on that one. Image is subjective but we all know (or maybe we don’t) that Sony applies a ton of noise reduction that does take away from some of their sharpness and fidelity. That and the a7siii had a noticeable green shift, but most won’t notice if the camera isn’t side by side or they don’t regular use other cameras as well. Therefore in a technical sense, I don’t agree, it in a subjective creative sense, to each his own! Don’t we need opposing opinions so we can have proper chatter? I love your channel and love your work, so why not help you drive engagement? 🙌
@@dathofilms funny I said nothing about brand. You’re talking to someone with a Red, Canon, Sony, and Fuji at home. I appreciate all the cameras my friend =). I just didn’t agree.. it sounded like a fanboy statement from someone who hasn’t touched anything else and loves only their cam. They all have great qualities and in 2024 we’re spoiled for choice. Enjoy your Sony!
Wrong move. It's the lazy choice because of the AF and low light performance. We work in the wedding industry and have used all brands - no loyalties because we don't run a channel endorsing gear. Sony image is brittle and video-esque. Truth is you probably should use a combination of brands, relying on each brand's strength for different parts of the wedding day. FX3 is a great body and we use the FX30 for our wide shots but Canon is the stronger image. In fact, Sony is the weakest image of the top video brands. The noise and APSC argument are compelling but the image quality is inferior.
I don’t have loyalties either, and this wasn’t a “lazy choice” if you watched the video at all. And I absolutely agree - part of this video that I actually cut out was a long rant about how there’s power in using multiple cameras with different strengths, with the only con being it might slow down your editing to match them (which is a small con). Lot of my friends have multiple brands in their arsenal.
Right now, we are actually in the process of building out an entire production house where we have Canon AND Sony gear. They both have strengths that are useful in different scenarios
Jake the talking head video you did for Fulltime Filmaker using Canon looks a lot better than this video. It was the colors, the colors looked so rich and deep. This video looks a bit more digital and doesn’t have the same color richness. I just went back and looked at your older videos and your skin tones looked better with the Canon. I think once the R5 ii releases you’ll switch back tbh- just my opinion. I just switched from A7IV to R6ii. Canon screen and viewfinder so much better, the look and feel of the camera body is much better. The menu - WOW is it so much better. And then the colors - just amazing and look more like real life vs digital. No crop at 60 FPS. Idk the only point I can given to the Sony is for super low light.
I'll have to disagree with you on most of those points my guy. Canon USED to be better at Sony than colors but that all changed a few years ago when the A74 was released. Canon fan boys still use the color argument but sadly thats just an outdated one. I'm not knocking canon - I love canons colors, that wasn't a reason I switched. But to say its superior to Sony is just outdated. Sony's metadata has surpassed Canons. Also reviewing my old FTF videos, I didn't know how to color grade skin tones properly and I feel like all my FTF talking heads look bad hahaha
@@JakeWeisler haha I think your footage has always looked great! So for real estate videos would you keep the Sony A7iv with the 1.5x crop at 60 fps or would you go with the Canon R6 mark ii? I have both right now and just put the A7Iv up for sale bc of the crop. Need wide angle shots for RE.
@@DavidStella yes I know. I’m just not a fan of the way the camera feels and how bad the screen quality is on Sony cameras. Also skin tones are better straight out of camera in my personal opinion. They both produce great 4k video, so I feel like it makes sense to go with the Canon being that I just enjoy the overall experience more.
